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Date Posted: 01:44:08 07/10/03 Thu
Author: "Vince From Villanova" (Truth, justice, and all that crap.)
Subject: I supported the war, and I still think we did the right thing. However, I am still disturbed by some of what I'm hearing on talk radio. Click here for more.
In reply to: Rockford 's message, "Are there still troops in Iraq?" on 08:17:05 07/07/03 Mon

We've all heard the Democrats pounding away at Dubya, saying that he lied to us about Iraq and their weapons of mass destruction. (I still want to know what killed all those Kurds in the early 90s. Spoiled mayonaisse, perhaps?)

But several of the conservative hosts I listen to don't seem to want to argue the actual point of whether or not Iraq ever had WMDs. Instead, they've decided to rely on these two arguments: polls which show that most Americans still support Bush's actions regardless of whether or not WMDs are ever found in Iraq, and Bush's late-game strategery-switch to giving other reasons besides WMDs to invade Iraq over.

On the first point... if the American people support it, it must be okay? That's not what y'all were saying during the Lewinsky scandal. And Hitler had high poll numbers too.

On the second point... what you're saying is that as long as a President has one valid reason for military action, it's okay for him to lie about other reasons? Sorry, but if he lies about one, that makes me doubt the rest, and it should give you the same doubts too.

Not that I think he's lying... see the sarcastic mayo reference above. And even if he DID lie, the suggestion of impeachment now coming from some circles is just plain silly. Impeachment is for "high crimes and misdemeanors" according to the Constitution, and there's no law against lying. (There IS a law against lying UNDER OATH, even if it's about sex. Deal with it, Clintonites.) But if it can be shown he did lie, then Bush will lose the support he won from me in 2000.

Oh, and a quick vocab lesson: to lie is not simply to tell an untrue statement. To lie is to tell an untrue statement while knowing it's untrue. There are those in some circles who need to be reminded of that.

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[> [> Well I never supported the war to begin with. ... -- Anton Geesnick, 19:01:24 07/10/03 Thu

To my eyes it was an obvious con game pulled by the neo conservatives on the American people. Pat Buchanan was the only sane voice opposing the war and his magazine the best source of info in the months leading up to it. What's happening now and what is being revealed now should be no surprise to anyone who looked honestly at the situation and tried to keep themselves informed. Seems that these so called conservative talk show hosts take their orders directly from the White House. Don't look to talk radio in its present form for accurate information.

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