I know they beat the Yanks in the playoffs. Great for them. I wanted to win. But when you win the World Series title as a wild card, it is discounted. Period. It's not as if you need me to do the discounting. Many fans, most I'd suspect, believe baseball tainted its purity when it allowed second-place teams to call themselves "champions." And we said this long before the Sox won it in 2004. Some here will recall how I dismissed the 1997 Yanks' playoff chances, because they were not division champions. Now, as for the 1918 chants, that's something the Sox fans brought upon themselves. The chant would never start on its own. It would only start after the Sox fans started chanting something that I can't repeat here. -- Fordham Rams Basketball Message Board

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Date Posted: Mon April 18, 2005 14:19:37
Author: JoltinJoe
Subject: I know they beat the Yanks in the playoffs. Great for them. I wanted to win. But when you win the World Series title as a wild card, it is discounted. Period. It's not as if you need me to do the discounting. Many fans, most I'd suspect, believe baseball tainted its purity when it allowed second-place teams to call themselves "champions." And we said this long before the Sox won it in 2004. Some here will recall how I dismissed the 1997 Yanks' playoff chances, because they were not division champions. Now, as for the 1918 chants, that's something the Sox fans brought upon themselves. The chant would never start on its own. It would only start after the Sox fans started chanting something that I can't repeat here.
In reply to: bulldog 's message, "joltin joe.. you can't be serious. How many 1918 chants and pictures of babe ruth were heard and seen at the home of the yankees over the course of the last few decades. Humulity in victory has never been something yankee fans have been known for. Just bite the pillow and take the pain like a man and stop crying when someone talks about the bombers collapse last year. I thought NYers were tougher than that! By the way, trying to discount the Red Sox championship because they were a wild card is stretching it big time. They beat the Yanks straight up in the playoffs... it doesn't get any cleaner than that." on Mon April 18, 2005 13:57:17

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Your lack of logic and history JJ in this particular matter is astounding! If the regular season is all that counts, why have playoffs? The Steelers had the best record last year, so does that mean the Pats are not Super Bowl champs?!!? Why play the A-10 Championships? And I can assure you, the "1918" chants have been hurled sans provocation except for the sight of a Sox cap. C'mon, suck it up big guy! (NT) -- RC74, Mon April 18, 2005 17:10:59
- There's no lack of logic here. Don't bring up what other sports did or do. That's the poor logic. Baseball was for the longest time pure, because you had to be a regular-season champion to get to the playoffs. Now it's just like the other sports, where a second-place team can win the title. I don't like that, and I think most baseball fans really don't like it either. (NT) -- JoltinJoe, Mon April 18, 2005 17:20:33

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