I think that's right, but there were a couple of differences. When Fordham hired Digger in '70, the AD was making the decision. When Stewart was hired some years later, the search was being run by Dean William "Creepy" Crawley, an ex-marine who was part Dean of Discipline, part Dean Wormer, and who had no business with his nose in athletics. Crawley wanted to hire a like-minded disciplinarian to cement his growing control over the Athletic Department. He wound up hiring somebody who was wound even tighter than he was. Crawley's intrusion into athletics inserted an unnecessary layer of reporting between the AD and the President, an unfortunate situation that persists at Fordham to this day. P.S. I'm not sure all of 71-78 was a "disaster". We went 18-9 with a NIT bid in 71-72. Wissel's first few teams weren't bad, but they were given unreasonably tough schedules to play. -- Fordham Rams Basketball Message Board

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Date Posted: Mon March 21, 2005 17:36:59
Author: John
Subject: I think that's right, but there were a couple of differences. When Fordham hired Digger in '70, the AD was making the decision. When Stewart was hired some years later, the search was being run by Dean William "Creepy" Crawley, an ex-marine who was part Dean of Discipline, part Dean Wormer, and who had no business with his nose in athletics. Crawley wanted to hire a like-minded disciplinarian to cement his growing control over the Athletic Department. He wound up hiring somebody who was wound even tighter than he was. Crawley's intrusion into athletics inserted an unnecessary layer of reporting between the AD and the President, an unfortunate situation that persists at Fordham to this day. P.S. I'm not sure all of 71-78 was a "disaster". We went 18-9 with a NIT bid in 71-72. Wissel's first few teams weren't bad, but they were given unreasonably tough schedules to play.
In reply to: LXRF 's message, "The above posts put things in perspective: 71-78 disaster, 2 coaches; 78-87 good to very good, 1 coach (+ 87 interim coach); 88-97 fair to good, 1 coach; 98-03 disaster, 1 coach; 03-present, promising. Total out of 34 years, 11 years were a disaster; 10 years were fair to good; 11 years were good to very good; the last two are promising. Incidentally, John, wasn't it Dick Harter who recommended his assistant Phelps to us." on Mon March 21, 2005 16:59:12

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who was part Dean of Discipline, part Dean Wormer, and who had no business with his nose in athletics. That sounds a lot like Jeff Gray to me! (NT) -- J�Dete93, Mon March 21, 2005 18:02:23
- Does that mean Frank's on double secret probabtion? (NT) -- V. Wormer, Mon March 21, 2005 18:26:38
- Sadly, once the position is created, people feel it has to be filled. Other people aspire to fill it. That's why Fordham's Athletic Department needs a good organizational overhaul -- and has for three decades. (NT) -- John, Mon March 21, 2005 18:27:16
- Many on the inside at Fordham, and many in the know on the outside(including media, A-10 officials, etc.), believe that until Gray is removed from the athletic equation and we restructure the athletic dept. to have a VP, Director of Athletics reporting directly to the President, we will not have a legitimate Div. 1 program. This is a significant problem. (NT) -- Rambacker, Mon March 21, 2005 22:12:50
  - Agreed, Fordham needs to remove Gray from athletics. This guy has no clue about athletic administration or recruiting, and has been a drag on the programs. It has become a joke that a student dean with a featherweight resume has signoff authority on athletics. We can do better. (NT) -- Rampa, Tue March 22, 2005 10:28:16

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