Ooooh! Im so glad this board is up. I hope some computer guru can answer my question. Im in need of a new motherboard and processor but I dont want to upgrade to Vista. I have too many old programs that I need and I can get them to run on XP Pro or under emulation. Can I upgrade my equipment and still stay with the older program. My CPU fan is about shot and I know its going to fry my processor some day soon and the fan to fit is is no longer available. I hate it when technology does this to me. Thanks for any help. BTW I usually use AMD processors. -- The HarmyBoard HarmDrive

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Date Posted: 09:24:49 02/07/07 Wed
Author: Karen
Subject: Ooooh! Im so glad this board is up. I hope some computer guru can answer my question. Im in need of a new motherboard and processor but I dont want to upgrade to Vista. I have too many old programs that I need and I can get them to run on XP Pro or under emulation. Can I upgrade my equipment and still stay with the older program. My CPU fan is about shot and I know its going to fry my processor some day soon and the fan to fit is is no longer available. I hate it when technology does this to me. Thanks for any help. BTW I usually use AMD processors.

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[> Hi Karen, right now you can still buy XP but I don't know for how long. When Microsoft wants you to use a new version, they often take the previous version out of circulation. Click here for an article on compatibility -- judi, 10:01:36 02/07/07 Wed [1]

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[> what about used computers - I needed a third computer at work but didn't want to spend the money to upgrade the other two - so I bought three used computers for the price of one new one and I get to keep all my old programs that I don't want to upgrade -- chris k, 16:33:44 02/07/07 Wed [1]

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[> If you already have a copy of XP, can't you just install *that* when you upgrade your parts? I cannot tell you how many times we have had a computer on the operating table getting an upgrade of some sort. We just install the same stuff back on the computer when we're done. -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 20:20:39 02/07/07 Wed [1]

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[> [> Just a comment. DH has had a beta version of Vista as a second operating system on his computer for a while now. I haven't had time to learn it, but the other day I accidentally started his computer with Vista instead of XP. I found the entire experience to be extremely frustrating! LOL Nothing was where I expected it to be and I couldn't find what I needed. I never had any trouble converting over to XP. Hopefully, it wasn't Vista's fault--maybe it was just me having a bad day! LOL! -- JJ (Ronda), 20:25:09 02/07/07 Wed [1]

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[> [> [> Oh, and I would guess that Vista will probably run most of your old stuff. It's just that XP probably won't run new stuff that you get in the future. I'm running XP, but I'm still successfully using MS Office 2000 Professional even though we have a copy of Office 2003, just because I refuse to give up some features that the newer version doesn't have, like the Shortcut Toolbar. -- JJ (Ronda)--who is talking way too much and should be in bed, 20:31:50 02/07/07 Wed [1]

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[> [> [> [> Actually at this time more likely Vista won't run old programs well. I have been reading some boards and not many are happy with Vista. I would wait quite a while before even thinking of buying Vista. I would head down to a local computer store not the retail chains and ask for their opionion. After installing the new parts will more than likely have to reinstall XP since the differences are so major. -- Hope, 06:34:34 02/08/07 Thu [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> Had a friend that decide to go out and buy Vista and now is regretting it. Also could have problems with old hardware not being detected and not having updated drivers for it. -- Hope, 06:45:35 02/08/07 Thu [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Glad to know it wasn't just me that didn't like it! LOL -- JJ (Ronda), 09:43:29 02/08/07 Thu [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Question. DH has beta Vista as a secondary operating system on his computer but hasn't had any real problems so far that I'm aware of. Could it be that he doesn't have problems because it is secondary and not primary? He has all sorts of software and hardware running, a lot of which is old. Or are we just lucky that it is all working with Vista? -- JJ (Ronda), 09:48:05 02/08/07 Thu [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> I would say more lucky and not everyone has problems. But I know a lot of people are having problems with hardware and software. Also the release version that is out now should be better than the beta version. Also if you know what you are doing and how to find drivers or fix things than better off than someone who is a novice and wouldn't know what to do if something doesn't work right out of the box. -- Hope, 09:52:18 02/08/07 Thu [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Just asked DH and he said his version is actually a pre-release version, not a beta. And he did say that he had to update drivers and stuff. However, he admitted that he hasn't used it that much. -- JJ (Ronda), 16:40:27 02/08/07 Thu [1]

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[> I do have a legal copy of XP Pro and it runs my old programs. Not to boggle with detail but these programs run equipment that would take thousands of dollars to upgrade. I just need a new motherboard and CPU and wondered if there were any that only worked with Vista or if I could just go get a new one and it would work okay. -- Karen, 14:33:16 02/08/07 Thu [1]

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[> [> Any should work. But I would talk with the place you buy it from or go online and do some research. I have never bulit my own PC so not all that farmilar, But depending on the Motherboard might have to buy new RAM and possibly a new Network, Graphics card. So want to do some research first. -- Hope, 15:12:06 02/08/07 Thu [1]

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[> [> [> Also make sure the Motherboard supports your current Hard Drive. I would think new Motherboards now use SATA connections for the Hard Drive instead of the old IDE so need to be aware of that. -- Hope, 15:13:20 02/08/07 Thu [1]

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[> [> [> DH has built tons of computers, and lately he has been encountering all sorts of compatability issues with hardware. Make sure you get all the facts before you start, or you could run into problems like having to change memory settings (a tricky and potentially problematic solution). -- JJ (Ronda), 15:28:54 02/08/07 Thu [1]

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[> [> [> [> And yes, there is a story behind that one! LOL -- JJ (Ronda), 15:30:09 02/08/07 Thu [1]

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[> INSIDE..INSIDE...INSIDE -- Erin, 17:11:06 03/03/07 Sat [1]

There usually is an issue whenever you upgrade your motherboard and processor. When you do this you mess up the link that your OS (operating system) has with the hardware. When you initially install your operating system, the OS determines the signature of your motherboard. This determines how it will interact with the rest of your hardware. If it senses a mismatch when booting up, your OS will fail and it will start the reboot process over again. I would recommend that you only undertake this process if you have the installation disk for WinXP. If you have it you will have to do a repair installation which will essentially do a 'upgrade' on your system. You will have to boot from the disk and follow these instructions.

WARNING!!!
YOU WILL NEED YOUR INSTALLATION KEY AND OPERATING SYSTEM (OS) SETUP DISK TO COMPLETE THIS SECTION.

1.) Boot from your CD-ROM drive by either pressing F2 or the DEL key.
2.) Press ENTER.
3.) On the next page press F8. Don't worry at this point about the wording. You will NOT erase your data.
4.) On this page you will press 'R'. This will start the repair process on your Windows installation that is found on your C:\ partition.

From there it will read the motherboard again and update the config.sys file there. You should be able to boot normally after the process is finished. I hope this helps.

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