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• This is sort of a computer question, I guess... -- shygirl, 20:24:18 08/24/07 Fri [1]
  I'm looking to replace my PDA and I'm looking at a Palm Tungsten C. Although it's an older model that I'll probably have to buy through e-bay, I'm interested in it for the added feature of Wi-fi capability. I don't need the MP3 or phone, so a newer model isn't really of interest to me. Does anyone have the Tungsten C? Just how good is the wireless feature?
  

  
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• If my computer started making a loud ARRRRRRR noise every so often does that mean it's about to explode?? -- manette, 08:44:52 08/07/07 Tue [7]
  
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  • Depends on what is making the noise. If it is the Hard Drive then want to get your information backed up as soon as possible. If it is the fan then not such a big deal just an annoyance. Try and isolate from where in the PC it is making the noise. (NT) -- Hope, 09:07:40 08/07/07 Tue
    • Thanks Hope and Ronda--- my guess was that it's the fan. It seems to run way to much of the time--so that might be a bad sign too? Agh--- I have so much stuff and I need to get a good way to back it all up...which I don't have right now. Any good suggestions for that would be appreciated, too. (NT) -- manette, 09:25:18 08/07/07 Tue
      • Right now can get external HD's with a lot of space at a resonable price. One site I like is buy.com they usually have a good deal on things and if sign up for Google checkout get money off the price. Inside for a link -- Hope, 13:08:38 08/07/07 Tue
      • You should also try to determine what is making the noise because if it is the HD it could go at any time. (NT) -- Hope, 13:09:55 08/07/07 Tue
  • It could be something as simple as a cooling fan going bad. Or it could be something much worse, like a hard drive going bad. Is there a pattern to when you hear the sound? Like when your hard drive might be working, i.e. when you open or save a file. I’d say back up your files just in case. (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda)--sneaking in at work, 09:08:43 08/07/07 Tue
  • Three weeks ago my computer was making a awful sound at times. When I took it in the problem turned out to be a bad driver on my sound card. Drivers are a software fix, not hardware involved. In addition, while they had it they cleaned it where the fan and heatsink are. I got it back within a couple of hours. Back up your files and take it in, it could be something simple. (NT) -- Jeanaz8, 13:53:57 08/18/07 Sat

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• SCANNING -- ED, 16:51:54 07/30/07 Mon [6]
  I said I'd be asking for help again probably sooner than either one of us thought. My pinter has a scanner and I've scanned pictures into the computer and printed some of them with no problem. My new question, How do I scan material and then have it appear on the computer (I Microsoft, is that makes a difference) so it can be saved, e-mailed, or in the case of a form filled out? This is really three questions, but it started me thinking after I just saw Cindy G's post about the article in "Smoke" that was scanned and sent to her. No hurry, just curious.
  

  
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  • Talk about needing to proofread, should say, "I USE Microsoft, IF that makes a ..." (NT) -- ED, 16:53:53 07/30/07 Mon
  • That really depends on your scanner. They all work differently. I'll admit I've had trouble figuring out our all in one printer. DH usually helps me. lol If I were in your place, I'd probably just be referring to the owner's manual. Hopefully you still have that. (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 20:02:16 07/30/07 Mon
    • I do (I keep all those important things, even though I don't always understand everything, but thanks). (NT) -- ED, 05:40:39 07/31/07 Tue
  • My scanner scans the image (article or whatever it is) and then saves it on the scanner's software. I just open the software and all my scanned images are there (until I delete them anyway). Then, I can crop them (to get the background out) and just hit the Save As and save the image to whereever I want (usually a folder in MyDocuments). From there, it's just a matter of sending them as an email attachment. (NT) -- Sarahsue--I don't have an all-in-one machine though, it's a separate scanner but I imagine they all work pretty much the same, 08:24:48 08/01/07 Wed
    • That sounds like something I can do, I'll give it a try. Thank you (NT) -- ED, 05:29:33 08/03/07 Fri

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• Backing up information -- ED, 13:36:06 07/13/07 Fri [9]
  After reading the Help note on the DJE board about losing all DJE material on the computer, I thought I'd better check out a backup.
  Can anyone explain the way to back material from the computer to a disc. (I have backed up Quicken files, but their menu gives a backup choice.) Can clip, pictures, etc. be backed up? How do you get more than one clip, picture, etc. on the same disc? You've probably figured out this not a computer whiz asking here! Should I go out and buy "XP for Dummies"? Any help/suggestions would be appreciated.
  

  
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  • The easiest way to back up stuff is...Inside -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 17:03:50 07/13/07 Fri
    • I actually understood what you explained, I think (and that's saying something for this non computer saavy person). -- ED, 18:17:04 07/13/07 Fri
      • The rest of my post was inside, but then how would know that since I didn't say "inside". To repeat my question: When you say make sure it's big enough, any suggestions of "size" (how is size indicated) I should look for - how can I tell what is big enough? (That's a loaded question!) Many thanks for your first response -I'm a bit brain dead with just 4 hours of sleep and forgot my manners. Thank you again. (NT) -- ED, 19:08:54 07/13/07 Fri
        • Actually, I could tell you posted inside, because there was no (NT) at the end of your post. NT means no text, meaning there is no text inside. Going inside... -- JJ (Ronda), 20:09:12 07/13/07 Fri
          • I just learned something else- what the NT means :) - not too much information at all. It gives me an idea of what I should look for and the cost. I'm not too concerned with portability, but having the files saved. So I think I'll look for a hard drive. Thank you so much for all the information. Visiting this board will hopefully make me less clueless. Thank you again. (NT) -- ED, 05:23:10 07/14/07 Sat
  • Storing files on Hard Drive - finally had some time to try the storing - Well, JAG Junkie (Rhonda), following your directions, I was able to figure it out and actually got most of what I need stored. There is hope for me after all. Many, many thanks for the information and the directions. (NT) -- ED, 18:39:52 07/29/07 Sun
    • You're welcome. Let me know if you need anything else. I certainly don't know everything, but DH does, (lol) so an answer is usually in reach. (NT) -- JJ (Ronda), 20:42:40 07/29/07 Sun
      • I appreciate the offer and I'm sure that I'll be asking again soon. Again, your help made an otherwise impossible task for me possible. (NT) -- ED, 06:17:31 07/30/07 Mon

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• See below for thank you on storing files on hard drive -- ED, 19:15:55 07/29/07 Sun [1]
  
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• Ok, I'm stumped. My pc keeps sending the same message: "out of memory at line 52". Can any of you tell me what this means? And, how do I fix it? Thanks! -- Greta (who is lost w/o her PC savvy son around), 07:30:40 07/12/07 Thu [5]
  
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  • That's what my brain says to me about 3pm every day. Unfortunately it stops WAY before "line 52" LOL (NT) -- The Chief - sorry, that's not helpful - try googling the phrase (in quotes) and see if you can find some troubleshooing tips., 10:36:52 07/13/07 Fri
  • Greta, when you reach age 52, your memory goes. LOL Is this happening in a specific program or just in general on your pc? How many applications are you running? Also, you may be running stuff in the background that you don't realize. What operating system are you using? If we know the OS, we can figure out how to see what is going on. (NT) -- judi, 10:25:59 07/23/07 Mon
    • Believe it or not, my 21 yo came over and found a program on-line that diagnosed my problem and then fixed it! He told me that the problem was with Windows, and the downloaded program fixes Windows errors. Gawd, I WISH I was 25% as PC savvy as these kids of mine! (NT) -- Greta (the nincom"PC"oop!), 19:45:04 07/24/07 Tue
      • Windows has bugs! I find that hard to believe! LOLOL good for your kid finding the problem. How did he fix it? (NT) -- judi, 07:49:25 07/25/07 Wed

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• Hard Drive (from the computer whiz that had questions below) -- ED (the non-computer whiz), 11:25:56 07/22/07 Sun [5]
  I'm finally getting my act together and reread your answer about the flash drive and hard drive. I just read the specs that came with my computer (it was built by a reputable computer store in our area that is recommonded by a lot of people in the know) and it lists a 160GB Hard Drive SATA 150 as part of the package I received when I purchased the computer. Is this what you were refering to, or do I need an additional flash drive or hard drive to insure my files aren't lost if my computer crashes, is hit by lightening, etc. that is not actually part of my computer set up?
  

  
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  • Sheezh - I may have answered my own question - in your first response you suggested an EXTERNAL hard drive or flash drive. I guess the one I have is internal. Hopefully, this is correct. I'm off to CompUSA and to talk to a techie. Thanks. (NT) -- ED, 11:42:38 07/22/07 Sun
    • Yeah. All computers have an internal hard drive. Without one, they wouldn't work! LOL! Inside -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 18:19:28 07/22/07 Sun
      • That makes sense - something simple, what was your first clue? LOL! The sales person suggested a WD Passport ($89.98) with 120 GB. He said it was just plug in and... we'll see. I haven't had a chance to try it yet, but I'll let you know how it goes or ask another 101 questions. Thanks (NT) -- ED, 06:21:30 07/23/07 Mon
        • I'm a cheapskate - I have an inexpensive two gig flashdrive that I keep on my keychain and save the stuff that's really important to me- most of the crud on my computer is just software anyhow- the actual material that means something to me doesn't take up much space. (NT) -- chris k, 05:19:18 07/25/07 Wed

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• When your old computer becomes a boat anchor... -- judi, 10:19:05 06/20/07 Wed [4]
  When your old computer stops working or is just so slow you want to throw it across the room, it's called a boat anchor because that's about all it's good for...
  
  Until now...
  
  Click here to see what you can do with that old computer. LOL
  

  
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  • LOL! I made a clock out of an old hard drive and various other parts from an obsolete computer once. I still use the clock! LOL (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 16:35:26 06/20/07 Wed
  • Interesting! I especially liked the planter. (NT) -- Araninda, 08:13:17 06/27/07 Wed
  • Those are funny! I've seen kids craft ideas using those free CD's to make Christmas ornaments. They're so shiny and rainbow-y, with some creativity and a hot glue gun, you can have a really cool-looking high-tech tree! LOL (NT) -- The Chief, 10:42:22 07/13/07 Fri

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• Okay, so did any of you techies buy an iPHONE yesterday? -- CM>^.,.^<, 11:36:46 06/30/07 Sat [2]
  I didn't, since I only use my cell for calls when I HAVE to, I really hate talking on the phone.
  
  As for all the other stuff an iPHONE does, CatMom still has a bit of difficulty walking and talking at the same time, so doing anything else on the go is of limited attraction to her.
  

  
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  • I imagine that's especially true when there's a big shoe sale across town! LOL (NT) -- The Chief, 10:38:17 07/13/07 Fri

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• i need help -- dea, 01:52:38 06/18/07 Mon [4]
  hi everibody.i don't know if this is the right place to do this....so plese forgive if i'm wrong.i need help with the wayback machine.on a post at http://www.voy.com/194540/ there is a link LRM's fanfiction page through the wayback machine.i can open the page but i can't read any fanfiction.does anybody know why?thank you for your help.
  p.s.sorry for my english it's not my first language
  

  
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  • InsideTry going to www.archive.org and typing this http://members.shaw.ca/pigeonlakenews/FanFiction.htm -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 05:00:54 06/18/07 Mon
    • Ignore the mess in my subject. Read the inside post for the complete instructions. (NT) -- JJ (Ronda), 05:02:28 06/18/07 Mon
      • thank you very much! (NT) -- dea, 13:58:58 06/18/07 Mon

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• Need consumer information - -- usmgrad, 15:40:25 05/11/07 Fri [10]
  I am looking at buying an iPod/MP3 player. Any one out there with advise? I want to be able to download my CDs and than use the MP3 player at work instead of the 5 disc CD changer. I would also like to be able to download videos. Any pitfalls I need to know about?
  

  
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  • Actually I should have mentioned this is my Mother's Day gift - the kids( 28,26,21&19) said pick it out and we'll get it. (NT) -- usmgrad, don't you just love kids!, 15:41:55 05/11/07 Fri
  • DH has an iPod and prefers that over other brands. Apple has probably the best setup out there (software, service, etc). It is easy to rip CDs, easy to use, easy to sync with your computer. He did a lot of research before buying one and decided on iPod. Because that brand is so popular, it's easy to get all sorts of accessories that are quite handy. (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 19:36:10 05/11/07 Fri
  • "rip CD's" and "sync with your computer" looks like I'll be learning another language with an iPod also. I'm just now getting "computerese" mastered. (NT) -- usmgrad, thanks for the help, 06:17:49 05/12/07 Sat
    • Make sure you get one with more than enough space for what you need. Better to have too much space than not enough. I'm sure a salesman can help you decided how much space you need. (NT) -- JJ (Ronda), 07:41:32 05/12/07 Sat
  • I just have to say the iPod is one of the greatest inventions around. Not only do I have almost all my CD's loaded, I have JAG videos loaded and photos of kids and grandkids. Work will never be the same again. (NT) -- usmgrad, I am having way too much fun!, 13:17:37 05/15/07 Tue
  • Along this line - anyone know of a good place to get an iPod fixed? I have a nano that will play for a few seconds and then quit. It was just over a year old when it died so I hear Apple won't fit it. (NT) -- Carrotts, 10:44:01 05/16/07 Wed
    • Inside for a few places -- usmgrad, 15:37:55 05/16/07 Wed
      • Thanks a million!!! My son is home for a couple of weeks and now I have a new project for him to do. What? He's been a slug for four days now. Enough is enough! LOL! (NT) -- Carrotts, 08:56:17 05/17/07 Thu
  • If you want videos, you'll need a player with a screen, BUT, if you want to try the iPod line for just music, you can get a Shuffle for $80. They're amazingly tiny and can clip to your pocket, but they hold 240 songs. You can play "in order" or "shuffle" the songs, and you can skip forward and back, but that's about it. There's no screen. My son got one for Christmas and loves it. The only thing we learned is that in order to plug it into one of the portable speaker systems (like a clock radio for iPods), the unit must have a USB port. The Shuffle doesn't have the same kind of connector that the larger Nano (is that an oxymoron? "larger Nano"?) or regular iPod. (NT) -- The Chief - it's a cool little gadget and a great "starter", 07:43:26 05/31/07 Thu

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• Hi computer whizzes - I need help! -- Gibson, 09:44:28 05/21/07 Mon [7]
  I own a Dell Dimension 4600C (as my desktop/home computer). It's been great but there is one thing that has been driving me crazy for the last year or so - for some reason I'm having trouble with Flashplayer. I'm pretty sure it wasn't always a problem (I've had this computer for a few years now), but I'm guessing at some point my Anti-Virus software (Norton at present) is interfering with ActiveX controls or something and preventing it to download. Either that or maybe it has to do with Internet Explorer 7 that I dowloaded several months ago? Everytime I try to download Flashplayer, I get the little movie that says that you will see when it is successfully downloaded, but if I visit a site that requires Flash, I always get a message that I need to download Flashplayer! Grrrr! It's frustrating b/c I have no problem on my laptop (also a Dell). I've tried toying with the internet settings and such, but I must not be 'tweeking' the right thing b/c I've had no success yet. Any suggestions!
  TIA!
  

  
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  • I would try uninstalling the program through Add/Remove Programs and then reinstall it. (NT) -- Hope, 13:27:36 05/21/07 Mon
    • Hi - thanks Hope - I did try that and it didn't work. Thanks though! (NT) -- Gibs, 13:53:46 05/21/07 Mon
  • Ensure other applications like Quicktime, iTunes, Real Player, or Windows Media Player aren’t set as the default streaming application, as this might affect the video player. Also can right-click on a Flash Video than choose settings than Advanced and will get settings you can change. Also Adobe has troubleshooting steps to try at this website http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_15511#install_win (NT) -- Hope, 17:44:34 05/21/07 Mon
    • Thanks Hope - I'll try that! (NT) -- Gibs, 19:16:40 05/21/07 Mon
      • YAY Hope - YOU ROCK! ;0) Can you tell it works now? LOL (NT) -- Gibs, 13:29:23 05/22/07 Tue
        • Cool glad I could help. (NT) -- Hope, 13:50:46 05/22/07 Tue

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• Is it possible to copy cassette tapes to cd's so they then can be downloaded to an IPod? I have the entire Bible on cassette tape, I can't afford to purchase it again on CD but would like to get it to an IPod. Any suggestion? -- usmgrad, 20:02:22 05/06/07 Sun [9]
  
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  • I'm sure it's possible, but you probably need special equipment which will probably cost more than just buying the Bible on CD. (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 05:00:11 05/07/07 Mon
  • I'd really like to have something like this done, too. I have a cassette tape of just some Sunday afternoon conversation and laughing with my mom, dad, aunt and uncle. They're all gone now, and I'd love to be able to have their voices on a CD. Do you think there would be any place to have it done? (NT) -- Carly, 19:46:28 05/07/07 Mon
    • There used to be a company called "LifeClips" where you could take your old tapes (VHS, 8mm, whatever) and they would convert them to DVD. They used stores like Eckerds, Walgreens, and CVS (you would drop off your stuff at the the film counter and pick it up several days later). But now with the rise in DVD burners/VCR combos, I don't know if they're even still in business. It was kinda expensive to have it done. Try searching the web. You never know what's out there. (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 20:05:07 05/07/07 Mon
  • Well did you know Microsoft (among others)makes computer software to do what I want to do! The internet is a wonderful thing. Apparently you can convert cassettes and records to CDS. Some software will even "clean up" the recordings. I will deffinetly have to try this. (NT) -- usmgrad, 19:18:20 05/08/07 Tue
    • Fancy that! I was just going to ask about LP's, too. I might have to look this up - got a link? (NT) -- The Chief, 12:05:10 05/09/07 Wed
      • I know you definitely can with records. In fact, a lot of the songs I got from people on Napster (way back when you could get out of print stuff for free on Napster and the world was a better place) were obvious converted from records. You can hear the record pops and everything. Sigh! Those were the good old days... (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 17:27:47 05/09/07 Wed
  • The link for microsoft is inside... -- usmgrad, 20:02:09 05/09/07 Wed
    • That's awesome, usm - thanks for the tip! I think that's something both hubby and I could appreciate! (NT) -- The Chief, 06:55:21 05/10/07 Thu

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• Question -- Carrotts, 07:13:16 05/01/07 Tue [5]
  I'm trying to control a very large Word document. I've got the dang thing formatted, even have the pictures and captions formatted correctly so that their numbers change when I move stuff around or add/delete pictures and such.
  
  Now the question: Is there a way to link the reference I made to a particular caption to that particular caption? So that if the caption number changes that number will change as well. Am I being clear? Shoot. For instance, if I say "The world will end tomorrow as described in figure 8 below" but then need to add some pre-end of world pictures first and now the end of the world description is figure 12. Is there a way to automatically make my document change to "The world will end as described in figure 12 below"?
  
  You'd think it wouldn't be hard to change a few references. Well now I'm up to 68 and I have to add some, and I never get to add at the end. And I have to keep it updated daily because it is on a shared workspace and some idiot will always complain if the references don't match the captions. The world can end tomorrw and that's okay - but the reference MUST match the caption. .. hate them.
  

  
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  • Wow, Carrotts! I have no idea! LOL It's funny, at work, everyone always comes to me with all their computer questions, especially Excel related stuff. Then they all gush about how I'm the one to go to for computer help. But then I come home and read your technical questions and I'm reminded that I am far from even beginning to know everything! LOL Thanks for keep my head level! (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda)--I even asked DH (the resident computer nerd in the family) and he didn't know either!, 18:38:54 05/01/07 Tue
    • That should be *keepING*. I was so blwon away by your question that I forgot how to proofread! (NT) -- JJ (Ronda), 18:40:21 05/01/07 Tue
      • *blown*! Okay, I can't type either. I give up. (NT) -- JJ (Ronda), 18:41:13 05/01/07 Tue
        • Aaargh! I don't want your head level. LOL! I want to be forever grateful! Fiddly-fudd! Well thanks for trying. (NT) -- Carrotts, 19:30:24 05/01/07 Tue

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• When should you , and how do you, delete cookies? -- Cece, 11:46:20 04/17/07 Tue [9]
  I know my computer expert, judi, will be able to answer this one, but maybe other people out there would like to know the answer too.
  
  Sometimes, when I am having trouble updating my web site, I wonder if cookies are slowing me down. Although they've been explained to me, I still don't really understand what they are. And I don't know when I should be deleting them. AND I have no idea how to delete them.
  
  Besides, just the thought of them makes me hungry....lol.
  

  
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  • Cec, search your hard drive for your cookies folder. Many of the cookies tell you where they are from so you can pick which ones you want to get rid of. If you just delete all of them, it will cause you an annoyance for a while because you will have deleted the 'good' cookies too. You can delete them all by going into Tools/internet options in your IE browser and then just click on "delete cookies" You can also delete temp files there. (NT) -- judi, 12:54:57 04/17/07 Tue
  • Your cookies folder can easily be found. Double click "my computer", then double click on your hard drive (usually the C drive) and you should see a folder marked "cookies". When you open that up, there they all are. Click on them once and you can see what they are for or at least the site names. I delete anything I don't know what the heck it is. Or, you can get rid of them all under "tools" (on any browser window) and "internet options", the Privacy tab and you should see cookies in there somewhere plus the option to delete them all. I do that sometimes too. (NT) -- Sarahsue--you might also try clearing your cache, also under the "tools", "internet options" on any browser window. Then, close and restart the browser and that can help., 15:56:58 04/17/07 Tue
  • Thank you judi and Sarahsue. I shall go cookie hunting tonight, and see if getting rid of them improves things. But I have to wonder why we need cookies in the first place. (NT) -- Cece, 17:53:50 04/17/07 Tue
  • Hmmmm....I finally found the cookie folder, but when I clicked on it, up came a file with "index" on it. When I tried opening, it said that it was a DAT file and I needed to find something to open it with. However, it warned me that I could damage my computer. So it looks like I have to live with my cookies. (NT) -- Cece...getting hungry again., 18:04:15 04/17/07 Tue
    • Try clearing them with a web browser open. The "tools", "internet options" thing. I'm never sure if my advice will work on all OS' since I'm still getting along on Win 98se. (NT) -- Sarahsue, 06:04:13 04/18/07 Wed
      • boy - did I have a bunch of junk I didn't recognize !!! - cleaned it all out - onlyleft the ones i know- (NT) -- chris k, 10:13:09 04/18/07 Wed
  • I always thought you deleted cookies by dunking them in milk and gobbling them down. Huh. Larn sumpin new ever day 'roun' here! LOL (NT) -- The Chief (just being corny), 07:01:27 04/23/07 Mon
    • GRABB! Cookies never stay around very long in my house, so getting rid of them is NEVER a problem! LOL (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 17:18:00 04/23/07 Mon

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