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Date Posted: 14:25:53 02/12/03 Wed
Author: William
Author Host/IP: spider-tl023.proxy.aol.com / 152.163.207.183
Subject: Surf, that is some serious venting! I have more. To read, click here.
In reply to: Surf 's message, "Permit me to vent" on 11:56:02 02/10/03 Mon

Surf, that is some serious venting!

I have noticed a rude, smarmy, and vociferous group of US citizens as well as Europeans who are not helping matters at all. No matter what the US and the US government does or says, they disagree and don't believe it. Now all they do is expect to hear something else that they already, in advance, admit they will not believe.

With Colin Powell, for example, this group of fifth columnists know in advance that they already must assume he is lying before he says anything and when he does say something they will automatically deny its validity while automatically siding with Iraq, France, etc. They did this yesterday, Tuesday, February 11, 2003, in mocking Colin Powell when he announced that the news agency, al Jazeera, possessed a new tape allegedly released by Osama bin Laden.

The hate America first crowd were mocking Powell for the announcement because al Jazeera denied possessing the tape. It turned out that the hate America Firsters were premature in their mocking of Powell. The Arab news service, al Jazeera, lied in denying the tape existed and they lied in denying that they did indeed possess that tape. al Jazeera was obviously waiting till all the two million Muslims who attended Hajj had returned to their homes so they could watch the broadcast which would play the tape.

So there they were, the hate America first crowd believing the Arabic news service, al Jazeera, who lied and denied their possession of the tape, and demonizing Powell as the liar, who turned out to be telling the truth.

These people in the hate America First crowd are brain dead imbiciles, appeasers of corruption and hate groups and they are incorrigible!

The Hollywood anti-Semitic climate makes no sense to me, nor does the Hollywood denomination of the USA in their movies.

In Hollywood the USA are always evil. The CIA, the FBI, and ATF, the police, the courts, the President, all evil, unless of course the President is depicted as a liberal president in the movies, then he is an angel and the "conservatives" or "Republicans" (they don't depict Libertarians in the movies yet) are evil, ruthless, and tyrants.

I think people are so stupid and gullible that they believe what they see in the movies and as a result, since many movies depict the US, including the CIA, FBI, etc., as being evil in the movies, the people in the US as well as Europe and elsewhere, believe that image and buy it hook, line, and sinker.

The ignorance regarding Israel is also blatant. I do not understand how people can fail to notice that Arabs have claimed about 22 provinces or states in the region but when Israel has one, smaller than almost any other state in the region, they are somehow doing some terrible thing.

They allowed Arabs to live among them and those Arabs living and working in Israel enjoy the most prosperous and progressive lifestyle of any Arab in all the Middle East, but for the oil Shiehks, Kings, and Princes, and yet people still decide to hate Israel and call for her destruction and for turning the land which is Israel over to the Arab/Mulisms.

None of this makes sense.

These people cannot even tell the difference between indiscriminate murder of civilians, including babies, which the Palestinian Arabs carry out, and the defensive posture which Israel takes in reacting to the killings. If the Israelis wanted to wipe out the Palestinians it could be done in about 36 hours and it would be all over. It is obvious that Israel is tolerant and patient, even too much so, allowing her citizens to be more easily accessible targets.

Well,

I've got to go.

The US must strike now in Iraq and make a clear and decissive blow. bin Laden and al Qaeda, North Korea, Iran, etc., must get the message that the US is not a paper tiger, that our soldiers and our citizens, including you, me, SurveyGuy, JL, Spock, H Bergeron, etc., are not wimps and that we will fight. These people think, after the way the past military actions went down in Somalia, the way Clinton did things, hiding, avoiding, bombing but no ground troops, and the way Carter and others handled the terrorists from before, such as the kidnappings of US citizens, the attack on the Embassy in Iran in which the Marines were told not to fire back but to surrender without a fight, etc., gave rise to the idea that the US are wimps afraid of a fight.

I don't know about you but I don't like war but I will fight and I have fought against thugs. I and we will fight back and, fear or no fear. Many US citizens, not just soldiers, will fight back to the last drop of our own blood before laying down and dying like lambs at the slaughter.

William

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[> Great post, Surf. I am back from my travels. Just cleared away the snow. What's all this duct tape talk? That stuff won't even work on ducts! Still, it makes more sense than throwing 7 pebbles at a big rock in Saudi Arabia -- sort of like a rock concert without any music. -- SurveyGuy (The sun came out the day I left FL), 10:01:41 02/13/03 Thu (maxtnt02-51.phlpa.fast.net/209.92.227.51)

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[> [> SuveryGuy and Surf, here is another idea. Instead of we United States citizens cowaring in our homes behind sheets of plastic and ductape, clinging to our flashlights and our three days supplie of canned goods and water, why are we all not going out and buying guns, rifles, uzzies, Mack-10s, and assault rifles, etc., and launching neighborhood militia groups, working in coordination with the military and the state and local police, in order for be prepared to launch an offensive against al Qaeda, Hizbolla, Hamas, Iraqi secret police, and any others here on our own soil? -- William, 17:47:02 02/13/03 Thu (pcp01723644pcs.coatsv01.pa.comcast.net/68.83.107.210)

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[> [> [> while I have no firearms at home - I always thought shotguns would be better for home defense
I mean if someone is invading my home, a shotgun would make short work of them.
add to which I believe shotguns have less red tape involved in their purchase...
barring that, a short barreled lever-action rifle that takes .357 rounds... -- H_Bergeron, 01:18:33 02/24/03 Mon (pcp02148573pcs.neave01.pa.comcast.net/68.81.252.202)

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[> [> The Police will be overwhelmed and will not respond as quickly as a well trained neighborhood, county, and state civilian militia. I already served ain Active duty service in the US military. I am willing to be an at home father and husband while being part of a local anti-terrorism rapid response assault force. Training and preparedness would include marksmanship, hand to hand combat, knife and stick fighting, communications, and group assault tactics, along with other skills. What do you think? -- William, 17:48:33 02/13/03 Thu (pcp01723644pcs.coatsv01.pa.comcast.net/68.83.107.210)

SuveryGuy and Surf, here is another idea. Instead of we United States citizens cowaring in our homes behind sheets of plastic and ductape, clinging to our flashlights and our three days supplie of canned goods and water, why are we all not going out and buying guns, rifles, uzzies, Mack-10s, and assault rifles, etc., and launching neighborhood militia groups, working in coordination with the military and the state and local police, in order for be prepared to launch an offensive against al Qaeda, Hizbolla, Hamas, Iraqi secret police, and any others here on our own soil? The Police will be overwhelmed and will not respond as quickly as a well trained neighborhood, county, and state civilian militia. I already served ain Active duty service in the US military. I am willing to be an at home father and husband while being part of a local anti-terrorism rapid response assault force. Training and preparedness would include marksmanship, hand to hand combat, knife and stick fighting, communications, and group assault tactics, along with other skills. What do you think?

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[> [> [> I think we should stock up on bullets to protect our homes from the looters who would emerge should anything happen. I cannot see wasting good duct tape. What does a Lugar cost these days? -- SurveyGuy, 19:02:40 02/14/03 Fri (maxtnt04-228.phlpa.fast.net/209.92.96.228)

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