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Date Posted: 10:42:59 05/06/11 Fri
Author: Margaret
Subject: Re: If you are here still
In reply to: Ben 's message, "Re: If you are here still" on 16:00:45 04/25/11 Mon

Hello, Ben!
I'm glad to speak with you again. As I was asked by you, in beginning I'm answering on your questions and commentary from your previous letter ( and have a few questions about them and new too, OK?). I use parts of our former letters and will to number different topics.


1). - Ben, how can I control Jack's masturbation? He
>>isn't all time under my direct supervision and he
>>never masturbates in front me. I saw it a few times
>>accidently only. I think, he can do it in toilet,
>>during showering, in the bed...
>
>My mother controlled me by using cotton swabs on my
>glans and into the opening to find out if there was
>semen!
>Margaret, where's a will there's a way! -

- Ben, I think, my aim is teaching Jack that after masturbation or wet-dreams he ought to wash his penis qualitative enough. Unfortunatelly, despite his 16, he neglects this rule sometimes. You know, last time I supervise his bathing again and he must retract foreskin and wash his glance of penis under my supervision. I hope soon he will do it automaticaly and without my observation.


2). After my evening checking, sometimes, when his bottom was dirty, we together went to
>>bathroom and I wiped him as little boy.
>>If I check him within day (I do it sometimes), he
>>ought to pull down trousers and boxers till knee,
>>bent, and spread his cheeks by hand. Ben, how did you
>>checked boys and Vanessa during daily checking (except
>>Saturday prespanking checking)?
>
>In the same way, Margaret. -

- Did you use "diapering position" or only standing with spread bottom cheeks?

3). Did you check their underpants daily or
>>during laundry only. Who checked Mark's underpants,
>>you or his mother?
>
>Daily. Mark was usually checked by his mother. -

- Did Mark's mother checked him separately or in front twins too?

4). I made them be ashamed. - Ben, how you made it?
>
>I showed them their skid marks in front of Vanessa
>and/or Mark's mother. From time to time I hanged their
>underware around their necks and let them wear it for
>an hour or so. -

- Ben, how often happened it when boys were 15 and older? By the way, I think, Mark was embarrassed more than Kevin, because he was older and, any case, Kevin as twin has minimal embarrassment in front Vanessa. Was it so?


5). puberty age. Parents request cleanliness? I won't wipe
>>behind even!
>
>Sorry, but english is not my native language, you
>know. What do you mean exactly? -

- Ben, I think, boys during puberty try to be out of parents' rules. Cleanliness is parents' requesting and boys try to show their "macho" if neglect hygiene rules including wiping of bottom.



6). Ben, how old were you, when your mother began this
>>complete checking and when she trust to you to be
>>independent in cleanliness and stopped control. Was
>>anyone witness of this checking?
>
>It lasts from 12 to 17. My father, my younger sister,
>my aunt and my grand parents were witnesses from time
>to time. That was especially embarrassing but strongly
>effective! -

- Ben, of course, you understand, it's very interesting and useful for me as mother of 16-year-old Jack. I'l use your courteous permission for additional questions, OK?

6-1). Why your mother began checking at 12?
6-2). Did you have big problems with cleanliness before 12?
6-3). How old were you, when mother trusted you to wipe your bottom independently (I understand that control of wiping is possible for more older boys too, but my question about wiping)
6-4). When you were 12-17, where mother did the exam - in your room or bathroom?
6-5). When usually did your mother exam - morning or evening? Was it constant special time?
6-6). what did tell your mother before exam?
6-7). "My father, my younger sister, my aunt and my grand parents were witnesses from time to time. That was especially embarrassing but strongly effective!" - Who presence was most embarrassing for you? How old were your sister then? Was she examed by mother too or it was "boy's privilege" only? Were other, except members of family, witnesses of mother's checking?
6-8). which part of exam was the most embarrassed for you?
6-9). How often mother examed you so after your 15?
6-10). Did you have ever lost semen during exam and, if yes, how old were you when it happened the first time?
6-11). How your mother chack your crack - inspected only?
6-12). Was any from your friends checked the same in his family? Did your friends know about your mother's control?
6-13). Ben, now you understand that your mother was absolutely right and used this understanding for raising your excellent "trio", however, can you tell me honestly, what did you think, when were 16 and mother examined you so?

( Ben, I beforehand thank you for answers!)


7). You should threat him that you will tell Jessica
>about
>>>it,
>>>if he doesn't improve his cleanliness.
>>>And if that's not enough, than really talk to her! -

- Ben, Jessica is very smart and clever girl. He has 2 youger brothers and, as I know (we spoke with her a few times), she understands parents' problems with growing boys. I hope, she will have good influence for my Jacky.


8). "As I mentioned before, it was a very special thing
>that not many parents may understand. Many persons may
>think that it was child abuse. But you must know,
>Mark's mom was (and still is) an experienced studied
>and examinated pedagogue. She followed her opinion
>that masturbation of boys used by themselves only
>guides to goatishness but it can be used by a third
>person, an authority, to calm them down and to reduce
>aggressions. So, while bathing Mark she sometimes
>manipulated his erected penis until his climax. (She
>started it first one time as he had both arms broken
>in an accident and had both arms in plaster for
>several weeks so he couldn't "help" himself). She felt
>confident that it was a successful way to control his
>rebellious feelings. I cannot say exactly if this
>procedure was really the cause but indeed he was less
>aggressive after it. And it was fact that he still
>loved his mother and accepted her as his authority
>(perhaps more than before...).
>Margaret, please say it frankly, what do you think
>about that?" -

- Ben, I'l try answer absolutely frankly. Without doubt, each family has own rules. Nevertheless, I think here were 2 different things. When Mark broken both arms and can't "help himself" (by the way, how old was he then?), it was part of mother's care. She helped him to get climax the same as bathed him them, and , I think, wiped him after pooping. It's mother's duty. However, with all my respect to Mark's mother, I'm not sure that she had to "play" with son's erected penis, when he was healthy. He had to do it himself and without mother's observation. Really, it decreases boy's agressivitate, but let boy do it himself. If mother knows about it and accidently see it, it's normaly in family. I see spots on Jack's linen and PJ sometimes. I saw him masturbated a few times. Sometimes, when I spank him, I see that he has climax and, when he stands up from my knee, pillow is wet. It's normaly for teen boys, but mother ought no to do it herself for healthy boy. I think so.

Best wishes to you and your family!

I'l wait your answers,
Margaret

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