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Date Posted: 15:24:49 05/07/11 Sat
Author: Ben to Margaret
Subject: Re: If you are here still
In reply to: Margaret 's message, "Re: If you are here still" on 10:42:59 05/06/11 Fri

Hello, Margaret.

>Ben, I think, my aim is teaching Jack that
>after masturbation or wet-dreams he ought to wash his
>penis qualitative enough. Unfortunatelly, despite his
>16, he neglects this rule sometimes. You know, last
>time I supervise his bathing again and he must retract
>foreskin and wash his glance of penis under my
>supervision. I hope soon he will do it automaticaly
>and without my observation.

You know, I don't think it isn't enough. But we discussed this point a few times before. You don't agree to me and so we mustn't repeat this. But how can I help you when you don't believe to my advices?


> - Did you use "diapering position" or only
>standing with spread bottom cheeks?

I used both. There wasn't a system.

- Did Mark's mother checked him separately or in
>front twins too?

Also in front twins and other guests.

> - Ben, how often happened it when boys were 15
>and older? By the way, I think, Mark was embarrassed
>more than Kevin, because he was older and, any case,
>Kevin as twin has minimal embarrassment in front
>Vanessa. Was it so?

It happened quite often. Yes, it was so.

> - Ben, I think, boys during puberty try to be
>out of parents' rules. Cleanliness is parents'
>requesting and boys try to show their "macho" if
>neglect hygiene rules including wiping of bottom.

Ok, I understand. And you are right.

> - Ben, of course, you understand, it's very
>interesting and useful for me as mother of 16-year-old
>Jack. I'l use your courteous permission for additional
>questions, OK?

OK.

> 6-1). Why your mother began checking at 12?

I think it was the beginning of my puberty age and my rebellious and "dirty" phases.

> 6-2). Did you have big problems with cleanliness
>before 12?

I don't remember. Perhaps it was only so, that it was normal for me to be checked by mom, but not after becoming 12.

> 6-3). How old were you, when mother trusted you to
>wipe your bottom independently (I understand that
>control of wiping is possible for more older boys too,
>but my question about wiping)

I was 17, nearly 18.

> 6-4). When you were 12-17, where mother did the
>exam - in your room or bathroom?

Both, there was no system. Sometimes also in the living room or dining room.

> 6-5). When usually did your mother exam - morning
>or evening? Was it constant special time?

As I mentioned before, it took place twice a day, at morning and evening, after my washing.

> 6-6). what did tell your mother before exam?

"Let's check your hygiene" or so. That was enough. If she had to say more ("Will you obey now?"), it was prepared by face slappings.

>Who presence was most embarrassing for
>you?

Any presence out of my mother. I tried to resist sometimes when my sister was present, but mom slapped me and explained, that Sue (my sister) should learn how dirty boys should be disciplined.

>How old were your sister then?

Two years younger than me.

>Was she examed by
>mother too or it was "boy's privilege" only?

She had a short "dirty phase" with 15. I was glad that she was also checked, but she learned it in only a few months. Then she was a good girl again.

Were
>other, except members of family, witnesses of mother's
>checking?

Yes, not often, but female neighbours or friends of my mom.

> 6-8). which part of exam was the most embarrassed
>for you?

Losing semen while being examed, the sticking of the cotton swab into my penis hole, mom's finger in my crack (when she found something she sometimes lubrified it onto my lips), getting squeezed my balls in her hand, getting squeezed my face cheeks with her hand while showing my teeth and mom's comments to witnesses about my hygiene status.

> 6-9). How often mother examed you so after your 15?

As often as before.

> 6-10). Did you have ever lost semen during exam
>and, if yes, how old were you when it happened the
>first time?

It happened 5 - 10 times a month when I was 14 - 16. I got extra face slappings for that, also paddle hits for my balls and penis. It sounds severe, but it was okay.

> 6-11). How your mother chack your crack -
>inspected only?

What do you mean?

> 6-12). Was any from your friends checked the same
>in his family? Did your friends know about your
>mother's control?

Yes, two of my friends. They knew about it, others not.

> 6-13). Ben, now you understand that your mother
>was absolutely right and used this understanding for
>raising your excellent "trio", however, can you tell
>me honestly, what did you think, when were 16 and
>mother examined you so?

Mother let me know that she had absolute power. I was often stubborn and naughty to provoke her to show me my limits.
I slowly began to understand that I needed her power to be kept in line.
>
> - Ben, Jessica is very smart and clever girl. He
>has 2 youger brothers and, as I know (we spoke with
>her a few times), she understands parents' problems
>with growing boys. I hope, she will have good
>influence for my Jacky.

I hope it, too. But her influence may be greater and more usefull when she knows about her problems with her.


> - Ben, I'l try answer absolutely frankly. Without
>doubt, each family has own rules. Nevertheless, I
>think here were 2 different things. When Mark broken
>both arms and can't "help himself" (by the way, how
>old was he then?), it was part of mother's care.

I am not sure, how old he was, 13 or 14 I think.

>She
>helped him to get climax the same as bathed him them,
>and , I think, wiped him after pooping. It's mother's
>duty. However, with all my respect to Mark's mother,
>I'm not sure that she had to "play" with son's erected
>penis, when he was healthy.

It was no "playing". She had no fun to do this. It was with pure pedagogic backround.

He had to do it himself
>and without mother's observation. Really, it decreases
>boy's agressivitate, but let boy do it himself.

As I explained, it was her opinion that it was harmful to let him do it himself out of under her control.

If
>mother knows about it and accidently see it, it's
>normaly in family. I see spots on Jack's linen and PJ
>sometimes. I saw him masturbated a few times.
>Sometimes, when I spank him, I see that he has climax
>and, when he stands up from my knee, pillow is wet.
>It's normaly for teen boys, but mother ought no to do
>it herself for healthy boy. I think so.

Margaret, I respect your opinion.
But there is more wisdom between heaven and earth than we may imagine.

Best wishes to you and Jack.
I hope to read from you soon!

Ben

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