I just listened to DF for the 4th time! It was on a long drive between here and San Francisco for the weekend. (For a Little League Game, no less!). Anyway, I got even more out of it this time. I can't believe how many readings it takes for me to catch on. Anyway ... -- DARKFEVER

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Date Posted: 01:02:32 06/10/07 Sun
Author: claudia_celestial_girl "Want to Drive?"

"Just Kidding."
Subject: I just listened to DF for the 4th time! It was on a long drive between here and San Francisco for the weekend. (For a Little League Game, no less!). Anyway, I got even more out of it this time. I can't believe how many readings it takes for me to catch on. Anyway ...

Four things hit me this time around. It might be a stretch, but here goes:

1) At the end of DF, JB suggested that Mac couldn't be sure that the Lord Master had killed Alina. And someone below mentioned that Malluce had to "disappear" because of someone's orders that he couldn't dare refuse... I've been wondering about the following things: a) nobody could identify Alina's boyfriend at Trinity College, but there were these photos of Alina and The Lord Master in the collection. Somebody took those pictures of the two of them together, and it couldn't have been any of Alina's friends because they couldn't tell Mac what he looked like. Might the person who took the pictures have been someone The Lord Master knew??? b) If there is a second person who the Lord Master was working with (The Dark King???), that could be the person who had Alina killed and/or who Malluce was reporting to. (OK, I know, It's hard to imagine the Dark King handling a camera and taking the photos with Alina & boyfriend, but maybe it was an associate of Darrocs.) I'm just saying that, there might have been a second man, someone over the Lord Master, or tangential to the Lord Master.

2) Alina must have been onto something. Mac says that Alina was VERY smart, and was a literature major - someone who wanted to get a Ph.D. in English lit. We know that both Alina and Mac are Sidhe-seers and Nulls, so Alina must have started seeing Fae once she got to Dublin, and started investigating what that was all about. I suspect that Alina probably realized that she was adopted, and that she and Mac were being protected. I also suspect that it was Alina who first started searching for the Sinsar Dubh (that English lit interest), and then she met the Lord Master, who used her powers to help him find it. I think that with Alina's help they did find it - and that he (or the second man) has it now (in the car?). Once she was no longer useful to them, once they got the Sinsar Dubh, they killed her. But if there is another player besides the Lord Master, then it might have been the second man who killed Alina. But Alina wrote everything down in her journal(s), and eventually I'm convinced, that Mac will find them.

There is a part, in DF, where Mac gets a real imprint of Alina: how confused Alina was, how Alina became 'tempered in Dublin's forge', & learned hard lessons. I thought that was really powerful. Didn't before connect with Alina's story.

in the description of BArron's Books and BAubles, it mentions that there is a big mural on the ceiling. Might that mural give some clues about the origin of JB???? I keep thinking that JB was 'spawned in a cataclysm of nature' just as Mac first suspected when she met him for the first time. ;-)

OK. That the end of my crazy ramblings.

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[> Oh Claudia you are SO good!OK-I believe there is someone working with Darroc too.In Immortal he is working with Queen Aiobheal's consort Mael.And at the end of Immortal when Darroc is getting his punishment it says on pg.320 "While the queen was occupied with summoning her guard to escort Darroc to the human realm and bring in her consort Mael,whom Darroc had betrayed as his acomplice,Adam quietly tensed to sift out"Never does it say what actually happened to Mael.And on pg.333 in Immortal she says she should have resisted her Councils counsel and ploted her own course.And she would henceforth because of the betrayal of those closes to her.Like I said i don't know what Mael's fate was but I do think maybe him and other Counsil are may be helping Darroc. -- Shellw, 11:18:39 06/10/07 Sun [1]

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[> [> Ha! I didn't even THINK of Mael. Good Sleuthing! PS I disagree with some people that Darroc might turn out to be a good guy. I was re-reading Immortal, looking over the description of Darroc, and he has this cruel streak. Though I have to admit that KMM gives us some tantalizing hints about redemption and bad guys being good in DF. -- claudia_celestial_girl "Want to Drive?"

"Just Kidding.", 15:43:33 06/10/07 Sun [1]

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[> OH!!!While you are re-reading Immortal look at pg.289.The Queen is telling Adam..."Do you have any idea what you've done?Do you know that already humans have begun slipping through the fabric of place and time where the old magic lies falow?"I wonder about this.Since the dolmens have opened, even for that short time, what kind of things could have gotten in or what kind of things could have gotten out. -- Shellw, 16:08:52 06/10/07 Sun [1]

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[> [> Maybe that's where the Grey Man came from? The Grey Man didn't just show up yesterday in our world. JB & Fiona knew his schtick from a long behaviour pattern. Here's another one I've been puzzling over: In the excerpt from Spell in Immortal, there's a bit where Lucan is reflecting that his residence in London is the most safest place for his Hallows, until recently when An immense and ancient power had arisen for a brief time, so strong that it had neutralized all other magic in Britain Now that I think of it, that has got to be the Draghar when Dageus killed himself. Darn. I'm still looking for ancient gods and races that rival the Tuatha De. I'm curious what other ancient magic there is out there that Druids can call upon, or that might make an appearance in the Fever books. -- claudia_celestial_girl "Want to Drive?"

"Just Kidding.", 17:34:33 06/10/07 Sun [1]

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[> Wow, just love the theories and possibilities that you two have come up with. I totally forgot about Mael. As to the missing pictures, I believe that Darroc found them and has kept them, maybe Alina did touch his heart in some ways. I believe that Alina was so deeply in love w/ Darroc that she didn't realize what was truly going on around her til the end, when she saw that Darrow was helping the Unseelie and was brutally betrayed by her lover in the end. -- Maria

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[> [> I agree with you there Maria. I am not sure that Darroc will be good but it is always fun to throw out the possibility. I totally forgot about Mael to ShellW good theories ladies! -- Cheryle

, 21:58:31 06/10/07 Sun [1]

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[> Ancient power -- JT, 14:08:05 06/11/07 Mon [1]

I thought the ancient power was Queen A in the catacombs when Dagues killed himself. Does it not say so in one of the books? Wait a minute, the 13, Dagues's Druid power, Adam and the Queen were there; that is a WHOLE lot of ancient power!! I still think the Queen was the most powerful there.I wish I had the memory some of you do!! Is She not more powerful than the Draghar or would the combination of all of the above used within minutes of each other cause the wards to drop? Was Darroc left a mortal; no fae powers? If so, how did he get where he is in Fever? Did I miss something or will we learn what happened ? Thanks ladies for making me think and use my brain.

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[> [> I think the Queen may be more powerful then the Draghar she is the one that captured them in that nothingness. Darroc was definately left mortal with no Fae power. He was placed in the human realm to live out his days as a human part of his punishment in Immortal. We are pretty sure that he is the Lord Master because the Lord Master resembles Darroc and I think we will be learning more as the series progresses. -- Cheryle

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