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Subject: Re: I AM BACK, HELLO!!!

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Yeah, I think Robin wants it to be a for profit. I was impressed at first, I am not anymore. I think she talks out of both sides of her mouth.

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Date Posted: 17:12:09 01/01/24 Mon
In reply to: Owner/Moderator 's message, "I AM BACK, HELLO!!!" on 15:47:59 12/30/23 Sat

>I am still here. I had a bit of a scare, though.
>Back in May, I started with some severe health issues.
> I wasn't able to really do much of anything and was
>too exhausted to post. I am feeling better now,
>although near not perfect. Definitely on an upward
>trend. My apologies to those who came here with all
>that ridiculous spam. I saw a post asking the board
>to be deleted. Not happening, I have a long history
>here ;) But it does get frustrating, I will admit
>that.
>
>I did get to see some of the state competitions which
>were available on Pageants Live and was impressed with
>what I saw. I will post more about that later. For
>now, the pageant is in 2 weeks so I will definitely be
>posting about that in its entirety. I am reluctantly
>purchasing, and I cannot state RELUCTANTLY enough, the
>2 bit 2 night preliminary competition. It is WAY
>overpriced at $99 especially if you do not want to see
>the teen competition. I have seen people complain
>about Pageants Live but for $33 a month you got a full
>competition including the final night. I am glad that
>it will be on Youtube for all to see final night but
>way to stick it to those who want to see the
>preliminaries. In future years I am not sure I will
>pay that much. Just to note: I have no problems
>paying for any preliminary or program which I want to
>see. The issue is that for what you are getting, is
>it a fair price? Two nights of competition, no. It
>is entirely overpriced.
>
>However, from what I have been reading, I am not sure
>how many more years there is going to be a national
>pageant. They cannot seem to get out of debt, secure
>sponsorships, locations for the pageant, and it seems
>like there are severe issues with the way things are
>being run. It looks like contestants haven't gotten
>their scholarships, and that is a serious problem.
>Although I am not an expert at the legal behind this
>it would seem as a breach of contract and not being
>compensated for services provided or promised. I am
>not exaggerating when I say the Miss America
>Organization could cease to exist at the national
>level. It isn't a good time for pageants in general,
>USA/Universe has major problems, too.
>
>But for now, we will enjoy. Please stop back often
>for commentary. Glad to be with all of you again!
>Best wishes for a better 2024.

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[> [> Subject: I was a bit out of the loop this past year but I was happy for a new broom. Based on what we are seeing I think either it does go for profit to essentially save the organization or it is not going to be here in 5 years. And that is just the beginning. It is going to take YEARS for the organization to be financially solvent. I am just very skeptical we are going to make it there.

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Date Posted: 23:48:02 01/01/24 Mon

>>I am still here. I had a bit of a scare, though.
>>Back in May, I started with some severe health issues.
>> I wasn't able to really do much of anything and was
>>too exhausted to post. I am feeling better now,
>>although near not perfect. Definitely on an upward
>>trend. My apologies to those who came here with all
>>that ridiculous spam. I saw a post asking the board
>>to be deleted. Not happening, I have a long history
>>here ;) But it does get frustrating, I will admit
>>that.
>>
>>I did get to see some of the state competitions which
>>were available on Pageants Live and was impressed with
>>what I saw. I will post more about that later. For
>>now, the pageant is in 2 weeks so I will definitely be
>>posting about that in its entirety. I am reluctantly
>>purchasing, and I cannot state RELUCTANTLY enough, the
>>2 bit 2 night preliminary competition. It is WAY
>>overpriced at $99 especially if you do not want to see
>>the teen competition. I have seen people complain
>>about Pageants Live but for $33 a month you got a full
>>competition including the final night. I am glad that
>>it will be on Youtube for all to see final night but
>>way to stick it to those who want to see the
>>preliminaries. In future years I am not sure I will
>>pay that much. Just to note: I have no problems
>>paying for any preliminary or program which I want to
>>see. The issue is that for what you are getting, is
>>it a fair price? Two nights of competition, no. It
>>is entirely overpriced.
>>
>>However, from what I have been reading, I am not sure
>>how many more years there is going to be a national
>>pageant. They cannot seem to get out of debt, secure
>>sponsorships, locations for the pageant, and it seems
>>like there are severe issues with the way things are
>>being run. It looks like contestants haven't gotten
>>their scholarships, and that is a serious problem.
>>Although I am not an expert at the legal behind this
>>it would seem as a breach of contract and not being
>>compensated for services provided or promised. I am
>>not exaggerating when I say the Miss America
>>Organization could cease to exist at the national
>>level. It isn't a good time for pageants in general,
>>USA/Universe has major problems, too.
>>
>>But for now, we will enjoy. Please stop back often
>>for commentary. Glad to be with all of you again!
>>Best wishes for a better 2024.

[> [> [> Subject: Re: I was a bit out of the loop this past year but I was happy for a new broom. Based on what we are seeing I think either it does go for profit to essentially save the organization or it is not going to be here in 5 years. And that is just the beginning. It is going to take YEARS for the organization to be financially solvent. I am just very skeptical we are going to make it there.

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Date Posted: 20:05:43 01/10/24 Wed

Robin is all about the money and she is making that money on the backs of volunteers and contestants. The prices are double what they were in the past. Most of the seats at the Teen prelim were unsold and empty. No one can afford to go to the pageant at these prices. Prelims $100, Finals $150, Talent (dinner tix) $120, Credentials $120 each, Coronation party $60, Red Gala $120, program book $50, live stream $99, downloadable videos $449, Talent rehearsal $40. For 2 people to go to Miss America, it's $1940 just in tickets and passes. Plus travel expenses which are very high right now. The miss hotel rooms are covered but the teens have to pay for their rooms. The host hotel is like $200 a night and it's $50 a day to park. It just isn't feasible for an ordinary person to go. And it is a huge financial burden on the families.

[> [> [> [> Subject: Oh my! There is so much wrong with this. ESPECIALLY teens paying for their own rooms! Remember how this used to be a feeder program for the Miss program? They are plain out of cash. I had said that the Miss program was going downhill and unless it is family nobody outside the family can afford the several thousand dollars just for tickets. That is not travel, hotels, cars/Ubers, etc. Both organizations are in the take what you can get category. Let's face it-what I paid for tonight and tomorrow night was not worth $99. They might get many more viewers if they cut the price in half, or maybe to even $75. I have enjoyed it but it is still not worth the cost, in my opinion.

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Date Posted: 00:37:49 01/11/24 Thu

>Robin is all about the money and she is making that
>money on the backs of volunteers and contestants. The
>prices are double what they were in the past. Most of
>the seats at the Teen prelim were unsold and empty. No
>one can afford to go to the pageant at these prices.
>Prelims $100, Finals $150, Talent (dinner tix) $120,
>Credentials $120 each, Coronation party $60, Red Gala
>$120, program book $50, live stream $99, downloadable
>videos $449, Talent rehearsal $40. For 2 people to go
>to Miss America, it's $1940 just in tickets and
>passes. Plus travel expenses which are very high right
>now. The miss hotel rooms are covered but the teens
>have to pay for their rooms. The host hotel is like
>$200 a night and it's $50 a day to park. It just isn't
>feasible for an ordinary person to go. And it is a
>huge financial burden on the families.