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Subject: THE 2016 LOTTERY

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Date Posted: 19:43:12 07/19/16 Tue

The competition is set! GAME ON.

Overall, I think this was a great lottery. I saw many good moves, some iffy, and a few poor choices, but very good overall. And I saw THE gutsiest pick I’ve ever seen in the time that the lottery has been online. I am REALLY looking forward to Mu SS. In a way, I wish some of those contestants had chosen Alpha, but Miss America will rise from her group, no matter what. Sigma is going to have some really good talent this year, and some really strong ones are in Mu as well. Sigma is usually strong, the contestants have been picking it and with good reason. There have been a lot of contestants come out of Sigma these past few years. I don’t think many of the readers here are new to the system, but in case you are, here is the rundown. Most years, the top 10 usually balances out to 3, 3, and 4 for the different groups. Some years, like in 2012, Mu only had one contestant in the top 10, Alpha had 4, and Sigma had 5. But that’s kind of an anomaly. And here’s how Miss Americas since Jennifer Berry came out of their groupings:


The taking from this? We need an Alpha winner to make it even again ;) Actually, it is to say that the winners are pretty much even over the years. So, to the lottery. Here’s the best, the worst, and everything in between. But first, I must give props to the BOLDEST move I ever saw before in the lottery.

Jaryn Franklin, Miss Illinois. She wasn’t in the last seven or eight to pick and was forced to pick a lousy spot. She had the third pick of the entire lottery and chose MU 3. Damn! Now, Betty won from Mu 2 last year, but many of us were lamenting that she had to go so early. She had no choice. Jaryn could have picked the best spot anywhere and chose to lead the pack. Damn girl! I love it. I love that she has that much confidence in herself. I would have NEVER chosen that, just because judging can go slowly in the beginning. But I love that confidence. She is in an ultra tough SS group, but I think she could win it. It’s a risky move, believe me, but it was made out of sheer confidence. I am impressed.

Now, down to the good:

IA—I don’t know much about her other than her talent, but she seems to be strong across the board. IA in Alpha has been working out very well for them. It worked well for Aly Olson and it couldn’t have worked any better for Taylor Wiebers if she had tried. (Well, had she won Miss America, of course, but the preliminary judging couldn’t be any better)
If it works, don’t fix it. And it’s been working. More on this later, but I think that Sigma is once again going to be loaded, so I think that if Kelly is strong in Alpha, she will stand out in the group.

OH—Another strong talent, and Mackenzie Bart won talent at just about this same spot in 2014. Alice will have some other good talent in this group, but I think she has positioned herself well. The only thing I worry about is being the last interview of a long day, but she should be okay.

MS—She is clearly not winning talent, not in a group that includes NY, OH, and some of the others, but she has a chance of winning SS in this group. I also think this bodes well for her overall as I said with IA. I think she is plastic, old-school pageanty but this is MS after all and they know how to get it done at the national level.

FL—Again, if it works for the state, don’t fix it. Fechtel won Mu SS last year, Jones won talent in 2013. She’s later in the group for interview and shouldn’t have to worry about that. The only drawback is that she’s got some fierce competition in SS in this group.

MN—I have to say, I just think she’s adorable, more on that later. I saw a fantastic interview of hers and I didn’t think a whole lot in the beginning. But, WOW, when I saw her. Not only does she remind me of Shailene Woodley, she has a spunky, wonderful personality. If they liked Teresa Scanlan, they will LOVE Madeline. She had a later spot and there were only a few choices left. But I like that she is leading Sigma. That’s going to be a good way for her to start out.

TN—I like this pick, they have been going Sigma, and it’s been working for them. But as I said with some of the others, she has the ability to shine in this group. In Sigma, I think she might have gotten a little lost. I don’t see her as a strong lock for a preliminary win, but she’s consistent and should do well in Alpha.

I wish they had chosen another group:

NJ—SS is her strongest competition, but I am afraid she will get overlooked as some of the stronger competitors are later in the group.
IN—See above. I think she’s a doll and I still think she could do well, but still.
MD, KS, FL, IL—All of these, IMO, were possibilities for a preliminary SS win.
HI—They keep choosing Sigma every year and it’s not working for them. I wished Alison had chosen Alpha, talent is her strong area and I think she gets lost here.
MO—She was one of the last to choose, but she still could have chosen Alpha. I wish she had done that, because she’s not the strongest in other categories, and I think she might get forgotten along the way. (Yes, I want her in that top 15 despite the fact that she will be America’s choice)

Risky, could have been better:

SC—I won’t even get into the hype here, we know. And as you have read before, I’m not a big fan. However, if you read this board you know I am objective. This was a risky one for her and she had the opportunity to pick much better. She is the second to last interview of the entire pageant, and interview is purportedly not her strongest competition. She did not know who would pick next, but I think that LA or TX could win talent in this group. And I have seen her SS, it probably won’t stand out against someone like GA. I know that there have been contestants like Deidre Downs who interviewed later in Sigma and went on to win it all. However, that just hasn’t been happening as of late. I have no doubt she makes the top 10, but I also don’t think she’s going to register in interview.

AL—See NJ and IN. This is a pretty heavily loaded group and I know she’s good, but she also might have a hard time breaking away from the pack.

AR—See above. She’s very cute but it may not bode well for her.

It doesn’t matter, they’re going to be fine no matter where:


Preliminary win predictions:

Talent—MI, KY, or MA

SS—OR, possibly CA (she won a prelim in CA), MS, OK, CT
I could also see an outside chance of VA or NC, even NE
Talent—strong bet on NY, OH, possibly NE, baton twirling goes over well as it often does, OK a possibility

SS—If it isn’t GA I will get a tattoo of the last names of my least favorite Miss Americas. However, if that doesn’t happen, I could see NJ or even AK
Talent—LA, TX, or possibly SC, but I am betting on either of the first two.

Some considerations for talent: Entertaining has been winning, that is why in particular I have TX and NE as considerations. And if KY is entertaining, she will be in the mix as well. MI and LA are very strong pianists.

This year in particular, even though three non-preliminary winners won three times in a row and I don’t necessarily see that happening again, I could see it as a possibility this year. I think some of the groups are so heavily stacked that you might see someone come out who has been consistent. And with some groups having their best candidates that could have won another group, like Mu SS, you might see something like this happening. Fun note: There has not been an Alpha SS in FOREVER. I can’t even remember the last time. I think Tara Holland was a Sigma, I remember French and Baraquio were not. Whitestone was a Mu, Aiken didn’t win anything. Could it have been Carolyn Sapp? If not, then you are REALLY taking a long look back.

So, who do I see coming out of each group?

Strong bets—FL, KY
Good chance: WA, KS, MI
I hope: IL

Strong bets—NY, OK
Good chance: CA, IA, VA, TN, MS
Possible: NE, CO, OH

Strong bets—LA, TX, GA, SC
Good chance: AL, MN
Possible: NJ, AR, IN, ID, HI

And there you have it! Agree, disagree, please let us know your thoughts.

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Date Posted: 20:06:36 07/17/16 Sun

If you are like me, you are spending this weekend either trying to beat the heat or work on your tan. But Monday awaits. And tomorrow is not just any Monday. Jojo meets the families of her final four men. Oh wait, there’s something else going on. The Miss America lottery!

There is a lengthy post that I did last year about picking your competition slot. It can be found on page 6 of the archives. Last year, Betty was Mu 2. Like many, I considered it the kiss of death for her. But, I can confidently say now, it’s not going to matter where you are. If you are Miss America, they’ll find you. I don’t know if this year will have one or two panels. I think that bad lottery picks are more forgivable with two panels, and that was especially true of last year. I have a feeling it will only be one panel this year, just by virtue of the fact that judging changes so constantly of late they wouldn’t dare go with the same things two years in a row. And Georgia Frazier (OK) IMO picked a bad slot because talent was certainly not her strong area and she still made the top 10. So, strategy isn’t as important as other years.

As far as who picks what this year? This year in particular, there are a lot of contestants who are strong in both swimsuit and talent. Those contestants really don’t have to worry about their placement. I think that if I wanted to win a SS preliminary I would stay completely away from GA’s group, possibly MD or KS as well. But who knows? I will post my predictions as far as who I see out of each group for possible winners after the lottery.

I will be working tomorrow afternoon but watching, anyway. I will be sure and post my complete thoughts tomorrow night. Have fun in the meantime, have as good of a Monday as you can and remember, this is actually a fun Monday for us MAO junkies.

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Date Posted: 17:17:29 07/02/16 Sat

Happy Independence Day weekend, everyone!

Tonight’s pageants are of interest to many of us. These states have done extremely well over the past 10-15 years at Miss America, so it’s safe to say you will see at least three of the top 15 at Miss America crowned tonight. Here are my thoughts:

CA—Izamar, PLEASE. That is all. No, actually, that is not all. Nicole Renard, former America’s Junior Miss, is competing in CA this year. I definitely see a state crown in her future. The last national Junior Miss to win Miss CA did very well at Miss America, Tiffany Stoker in 1995. I am really hoping for Izamar as this is her last year. She is beautiful, sings like an angel, and would likely get CA back to the top 15. \

\FL—It is hard to say who will win this year, there aren’t a lot of notable returnees. A lot have aged out. However, it is safe to say that whoever wins is a good candidate for the top 15 at Miss America. I am not too familiar with anyone competing this year, so it should be exciting. If anyone has any commentary, please share!

KY—There are a lot of notable returnees, such as Talia Horn, Annie Franklin, and double preliminary winner Laura Jones. I would look for your winner to be one of these three.

MA—I think Brianna Bostick is a former OT and has done very well in past competitions. I also know that Samantha Hawkins is considered a front-runner. My money would be on Brianna at this point. I hate to say it is her “turn”, but it kind of is. Truthfully, though, I don’t think they have anyone as strong as Meagan Fuller this coming year. I don’t see any possibilities at Miss America in this particular group, sadly. Best of luck to Meagan in all of her future endeavors.

OR—I’m afraid that I don’t know much about anyone competing this year. And with their record at Miss America of late, it’s not a state that stays in the national spotlight, so it’s hard to get good information. But I do hope they crown someone that sends them back into the top 15. This is, after all, the state of Katie Harman, Emily Orton, and many more.

TX—Whoever wins is at least in my top 15 at Miss America. After last year, just consider Texas a regular, no matter what lack of singing or star power they have. As far as this year’s contestants, I think the outstanding teen winner Madison Fuller seems like a favorite to win. She kind of looks young to me, but I haven’t seen her compete, really. I am not familiar with the double preliminary winner much, but the overall trend in Texas is not for them to win, anyway.

WA—The most notable competitor is the younger sister of Lauren Kuhn. I am sure she has some good advice for her younger sister. Although, nothing is set in stone. These crowns are not family lifetime achievement awards. Like many of the others tonight, you have to take a close look at who is competing, because if WA has national potential, you will see them in the top 15, no doubt. I’d love for them to have a Miss America someday.

I will post more commentary, including a complete synopsis state by state of the wins this year. But now, I have a previous engagement which may or may not be a lot of fun this evening. It is why I probably won't see the Miss CA webcast, but best of luck to ALL of the wonderful competitors competing tonight!

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Subject: JUNE 25 PREVIEW

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Date Posted: 17:34:57 06/25/16 Sat

Nothing like getting it in under the deadline ;)

This week has been extremely crazy, but I wanted to offer my insights into tongiht's competitions:

AZ—Off the bat, it looks like Katelyn Niemec is the one to beat. She is the perennial runner-up, a former OT for the state. However, she hasn’t been able to seal the deal. Brittany Mazur, also from AZ, had a similar experience. Maybe like Brenna Weick, this is finally her year. From what I understand, there is another former OT contestant that did very well at the national competition. Arizona is not always a predictable state, so we’ll see what happens! Congratulations on a great year, Madison Esteves. Or, a younger version of Jami Gertz ;)

LA—I am a big fan of Laryssa Bonaquisti (if that’s not how you spell her name, good enough). She won a preliminary, and she did very well the first time she did Miss TX. She may or may not take it, she’s pretty young yet. I know there is a lot of buzz around the first runner-up from last year and talent winner Justine Ker. Last year, LA sent strong talent and it worked out well for them. April Nelson was one that won me over last year. I wasn’t a fan at her crowning, but her amazing voice and interviews won me over. I am sure the future holds good things, and I am sure we will only be hearing more from her. Future contestants, take note-all you have to do is take a simple song and sing it beautifully.

MD—On paper, this looks like a showdown between two former contestants that did well, Stephanie Meadowcroft and Ebony Sherill. Ebony placed higher than Stephanie over the years, but I think Ebony has been a bit more inconsistent. In fact, I think she missed the top 10 last year. I would say Stephanie has a slight edge, especially with her win. But Maryland has been known to produced some real surprising results.

MS—Of course, Laura Lee Lewis can usually be considered a frontrunner, and this year is no exception. My biggest issue with her, and I will be watching tonight, is that she is too glorified patty. That hasn’t been winning this year, at least from what I’ve seen. Molly May has a good reputation as an OT, but I felt like when I saw her last year, she was still a little green. I absolutely see a future Miss MS, maybe this is the year. Whoever wins is a good guess for the top 15 at Miss America. Speaking of, congratulations to the first runner-up in a very strong class at Miss America, Hannah Roberts. Much like Courtney the previous year, she just kind of snuck in, did her thing, and won $40k. Best of luck to a great young woman.

NC—The only name I really recognize this year is Mackenzie Faggart. I hate to say this, because this is the state that gave us the likes of Michelle Warren and Kirstin Elrod, but those days are long gone. I hope whoever wins tonight can become competitive at Miss America, it’s been too long for NC. I can’t think it’s for lack of quality contestants. Who knows, but I hope it can retain its former glory.

PA—Right off the bat, this looks like it is Julia Rae Schlucter’s to lose. Sometimes that has been true this pageant season; other times not. She competed against a former Miss America and was first runner-up last year. I didn’t see the pageant, so I can’t say what held her back. Aside from SS, what I saw of Miss PA at Miss America was not overwhelming, so I am not sure what held Julia back. It could have just been different night, different judges. However, Samantha Lambert is a double preliminary winner. That hasn’t been really working out this year, as hasn’t in years past. I am not familiar with Samantha but she is a pretty girl. She looks like she might be competitive in SS at Miss America. Is Caroline Collins competing? I don’t think I saw her in the list.

PR—This is usually the best kept secret in the MAO. I am not even sure who is competing, so it’s hard to say.

SC—The biggest newsmaker is obviously former MAOT winner (headscratcher for me, like many of them) Rachel Wyatt. Statiscally, none of the MAOT winners have won their state pageants on their first try. So, it’s safe to say the odds are against her winning this year. I am not familiar enough with who is competing to say who it might be that beats her. Full disclosure: I have never been a fan of Rachel. I saw her compete the same year that Ali Rogers won. Obviously, it was my opinion, because they both went on to win and get first runner-up at their respective national pageants. But I just saw no personality there whatsoever. I remember that the second runner-up that year was an excellent opera singer and she lost overall talent to Rachel. Maybe she had a good interview, who knows? Unless she has grown a personality over the past few years, I wouldn’t expect her to pull off a win tonight unless there is no other competition.

VA—The only real recognizable name is Veronica Robertson, and I think she is a double preliminary winner. I am not too familiar any more with Virginia, as many of their strong competitors over the years have aged out. But, I think it is safe to say, based on their performance the last few years at Miss America, pay attention to who wins tonight. Also, a shoutout to the lovely Desiree Williams for her well deserved top 10 placement at Miss USA.

WI—I am not too familiar with the state, but it looks like a lot of newbies this year. It worked out well last year. Even though she didn’t place at Miss America, Rosalie was certainly lovely and I hope she tries the USA system. She’s got plenty of time and plenty of beauty.

WV—This one is hard to tell because they keep a low profile on their competition as well. But best of luck to the amazing singer and top 15 finalist Chelsie Malone. I am quite sure we have not heard the last of your powerful voice.

WY—It’s safe to say that Lexie Maddens only come along every so often in WY. I am not sure what is happening, but I wish all of the contestants much success tonight.

I have a feeling we will see some pleasant surprises, some sure things, and the occasional WTF? Tonight. Here’s to a fun evening!

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Date Posted: 21:19:03 06/25/16 Sat

Taryn Foshee looks fantastic as ever. Wasn't overly impressed with any of the talents except Moore. Leaf River Valley's expression were outrageous.

I think this is Lewis' to lose, but it is kind of underwhelming. She wins by default, no one really stepping up the cocmpetition.

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Date Posted: 17:43:19 06/25/16 Sat

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Date Posted: 13:39:41 06/18/16 Sat

Well now that the preliminary results are in, I have a better of idea what might happen tonight. I have also been keeping up with Miss TN all week, so that should be fun. My commentary will be a bit more detailed about that. But here goes:

CT—If I understand correctly, there are two double preliminary winners, last year’s 1st runner-up Jonet Nichelle being one of them. It should be interesting! Congratulations to Colleen Ward, who was just so damned cute in Atlantic City.

DC—No one can replace the fabulous Haely Jardas, but technically, she’s gotta pass along the crown. It looks like there are a lot of newbies this year in DC. I don’t think a lot of them have much experience like some that have competed over the years. Meaning, you often got a lot of transplants due to job opportunities, etc. I don’t think there are that many this year, and a lot have aged out. So, let’s welcome all of our newcomers.

GA—Obviously doing something right, and it looks like this year’s class is going to be strong once again. I hope that Adeline comes back and competes for Miss GA next year if she still has time. I was always a fan of hers. This year, another favorite of mine, Patricia Ford, has won double preliminaries and is looking very strong. Coming off of Betty’s success, I have no doubt that whoever wins will be ready for the top 10 in Atlantic City.
See the webcast tonight:

ID—Has the reigning National Sweetheart, as they did last year. It is pretty safe to say that Kaylee Carlesberg wins tonight. But you never know, do you? I was such a huge fan of Kalie Wright and I wish her nothing but the best in the future.

IL—I was wondering what happened to one of my favorite runner-ups from last year, Kristen One. It seems like she’s crossed the state line. She hasn’t won a preliminary, but that doesn’t mean much. I am not too familiar with the others that are competing, but I wish them the best.

IN—I think the lovely Rose McClimans is the frontrunner, and I hope that she wins. She already won a talent preliminary, so she is looking good to the judges. Best of luck to all the young women competing tonight.

MI—My memory is bad, but I liked the first runner-up from last year and I forget her name. But I hope she is competing nonetheless lol. I’m afraid I don’t know much about Michigan any more these days. In fact, I don’t know if Kaye Lani’s daughter is competing again this year. I hope she becomes Miss Michigan someday. Too much DNA to go to waste ;)

MN—Like Michigan, I am also not familiar with who is competing again this year. I think a lot aged out and I don’t know that there are any strong front-runners. But I wish the best to the beautiful Rachel Latuff in her future. Try USA!

MO—Lots of new contestants this year, and there were a lot that aged out, too. One of my favorites, Kelby Zwerwonka, is not competing again this year. I would hope that she does in the future, though I don’t think she has that many years left. Katie Moeller is a double preliminary winner. However, in MO in particular, I wouldn’t hold my breath there. That’s almost a curse. Conventional wisdom says she is the one to beat, especially since she’s been around a few years and it just might be her time. But who knows?
See the Miss MO webcast tonight. It is $7.00 to view:

NJ—This should be an interesting showdown between two former outstanding teens, Kaitlyn Schoeffel and Brenna Weick, both of who won prelimnaries this week. Kaitlyn has a good history at Miss NJ, as does Brenna. My fear is—I think this is now or never time for Brenna. I just think if she is not able to work out whatever was holding her back over these past few years, it’s not going to happen. I am a huge fan of hers, but you know I don’t pull any punches, either. Let’s hope for the best!

FYI, NJ is usually webcast, but it is always announced last minute. It can be found at:

NM—I haven’t been able to find any good information about what is happening there. But I was cheering for Torres last year. If she is competing, I hope she wins. Also, I liked Stephanie Chavez. I would love for Miss NM to get some prep help as they have been doing something right at the pageants the last few years. 2 NFI awards is nothing to sneeze at. There are such lovely contestants every year and I’d love to see them in the national spotlight more than once every 20 years or so.

OH—Another state where it seems like there are a lot of ageouts and newbies in the waiting. I think the only notable returnee is Sarah Clapper. Best of luck to all!

SD—I don’t know much about what is happening there this year. If anyone has an updates, please let us know.

TN—Oh what the heck, a separate thread is in order.

UT—Whoever it is, expect some great talent at Miss America There are several returnees, including Liz Palmeri and some previous OT winners who have won preliminaries. It should be a great showdown tonight! Best of luck to Krissia and I am sure we will hear from you in the future

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Subject: BRENNA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Date Posted: 22:00:46 06/18/16 Sat

And Patricia Ford AND Sarah Klein last week. I am getting spoiled! This is going to be a GREAT class.

I am ready to dance. Throw in Jeannette Morelan, who is there to win, and I will go to pageant heaven tonight.

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Subject: MISS TN

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Date Posted: 14:20:39 06/18/16 Sat

What a competitive year at Miss TN. I could see this going several ways tonight. Last night’s SS competition in particular was fantastic. I didn’t see one bad swimsuit in that whole group. Half of them looked like they could go to Miss America and win a preliminary. Even the talent isn’t as egregious as previous years.

Night 1—I had either Nashville as my talent winner and Collierville as the SS winner and I was right on. Both of those were the clear choices in each of their group. Sullivan County was a decent dancer and Music Grove/Row (whatever that is) wasn’t bad, either. Other good SS were Parsons, Decatur Co and TN Valley. EG I had Johnson City, Shelby County, Mt Empire and MTSU as very strong. Was Hannah overcome with emotion when she was playing New York State of Mind? I can understand. After 9/11, I can’t hear that song either without becoming choked up.

Night 2—I had either Nashville or Historic Jonesborough winning SS and Lexington winning talent. I fully agree with Desperado winning, though. It was a thoughtful performance and it was simple, the way the song is supposed to be. Very sweet. Some other good talents—Ease On Down the Road was very energetic, I could have seen her as a possible winner. The Rhythm Nation dancer started out okay but then half of the song ended up being pirouettes. It seemed very pageanty. In EG, I had Parsons and Decatur Co as the top 2.

Night 3—Damn! That SS competition was spectacular. As I said earlier, I could see half of them going on to take a prelim at Miss America. I could have seen that going to either Johnson City, Queen City, TN Soybean Festival, or Shelby County. Talent—TN Valley to me was the clear choice in talent. But I was afraid that Snipes would take it because it was entertaining. To be honest, I think it was completely overdone and it would be Youtube fodder for a national pageant. She’s got ability but I think the performance is just over the top.

In general, I see this going to either Grace Burgess or Jeannette Morelan. If it wouldn’t be Jeannette this year it would be next year. Both have different strengths and I could see both doing well at Miss America. In fact, I could see Jeannette in the top 5. I am biased, though. She, Olivia McMillan and the current OT are the only ones I have ever had any use for. My big drawback with Jeannette is that she is a bit too pageanty and not quite present, if that makes sense. She has incredible stage presence that would make her stand out at Miss America. But her confidence can come off as distancing. It’s one of those where yeah, you know she’s got “it”, but you don’t really know her. It could be the difference between her winning and losing this. I really like Grace Burgess as well and she is very strong across the board. I have a feeling this could be hers tonight. She has a quiet confidence, she’s a pretty young woman and I think she has a lot of class. I think she’s got plenty to offer in Atlantic City. And whatever you think of the leadership, they have been getting it done. I would be happy with both and I would be disappointed with the one that did not make it.

The others who have been strong across the board have been:

Shelby County—she’s a very good competitor, very pretty, and she seemed like fun during her onstage interview. I am hoping for good things from her I think there are two frontrunners at this point, but I could see her in the top 5. I think talent is her weakest category but when has that ever stopped anyone before?

Johnson City—she’s been sold across the week and she’s got great educational credentials.

TNSoybean Festival—has also been solid this week.

TN Valley and Chattanooga should be in good shape, especially with their preliminary wins. I expect to see both in the top 10 and maybe top 5 if they perform well.

Decatur County—she’s got potential and I could see her 11-15. I think she’s got big potential for the next few years.

Knoxville—Same thing. She’s got something sweet and natural about her, I don’t know if we see her this year, but she’s got real potential for the future.

Tipton Co—She just reminds me of a young Kylie Minogue. This year, I don’t think we see her, but she’s young and I hope she comes back.

Parsons—She was strong except for talent, and that talent was pretty bad. I gave it a 3. Although, again, it probably wouldn’t hold her back I don’t have her in the top 5 but I could see the top 15.

I’m sure there are some I forgot, but those stood out to me. Who is the new Miss Tennessee? We’ll find out soon enough! Tune in tonight, for free at:

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Subject: HELLO!!!!!!!!

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Date Posted: 12:53:04 06/18/16 Sat


I am embarrassed about how long it has been. I had been wanting to post for the past almost three weeks but Voy had been down. I was contemplating what the next step would be had this not come back up. I will tell you, though. These boards are a wealth of information. I found it very hard to keep up with the pageants that were going on and who was winning what. Last weekend, I did find that the Pageant Junkies Twitter had great, up-to-date information. So, if you find yourself at work or not able to keep up with what is happening, please visit their Twitter page. It is still a bit touchy with being able to log into the Voy admin. By next week, I am hoping to post any links for webcast information. If your state is being webcast, please let me know and I will post it as hopefully, the owner login becomes more workable.

A great big THANK YOU to those who have been posting in my absence. Thank you in particular to the historian who has been posting all of the fun facts and trivia. Please continue! I love pageant history. And with Ric Ferentz no longer with us in the physical realm, we need to keep talking about the history of the pageant.

As those of you who read during pageant season last year, I got some bad news about my job. I had to pick up another one to make ends meet. For that reason, I have been just completely drained of energy and time. I have always been close in spirit, though. Once again, I thank all of you who have kept up with the board. I promise it will get even more interesting as the weeks go on.

I wanted to post a preview of the upcoming season, but I can still do that for tonight.

Please stop back often and I will be providing lots of commentary!

Oh, AND......look for commentary FROM ATLANTIC CITY ONCE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!

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Subject: How come no one posts here, anymore? I love this board...but I seem to be in the minority??

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Date Posted: 05:39:47 04/08/16 Fri

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Subject: Coming soon to this messageboard.....

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Date Posted: 10:25:24 10/16/15 Fri

Countdown to 100 !!!

Historical facts and trivia, historical articles. We thought of creating a book for the 100 Anniversary, but no one was interested in it. So for the next 5 years watch out for some trivia facts right here!

Everyone is welcome to contribute - the more information the better.

Thank you!

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Subject: Countdown to 100 - (1925)

Answers what happened to the Golden Mermaid trophy
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Date Posted: 12:37:02 10/21/15 Wed

Atlantic City, NJ, Sept. 12 (UP)
From sunlit California beaches came the 1925 Miss America, Fay Lanphier, golden blonde from Oakland, winning the annual beauty tournament.

And so that the state in which Professor Mack Sennet led the culture and training of bathing beauties might have its cup filled to overflowing, Adrien Dore, otherwise Miss Los Angeles, received second honors.
Fay is tall and 19; Adrien short and 17. Other statistical information regarding the winner and runner-up, tending to prove that the judges who scanned the sixty-six fair entrants clad in one-piece bathing suits were not searching for a type, follows:
Miss Lamphier: Blonde hair, hazel eyes, five feet, 6 inches high, weight 138, bust 34; hips, 37 1-2; waist 26 1-2; arm, 22; thigh, 21 1-2;calf, 12 1-1; ankle, 8.
Miss Dore: Hair, brown; eyes, gray; height, five feet, 4 inches; weight, 116; bust, 33; hips, 32; waist, 25 1-2; arm, 21 1-2; thigh, 17 3-4; calf, 13 3-4; ankle 8 1-4.
Every girl in the contest received a gold or silver cup for some particular item of pulchitrude in which she excelled the others and all of them were almost as radiant as Miss California,

Miss Lanphier, who last year was an entrant from Santa Cruz, announced to those who surrounded her that she was a nice little home body of a girl, spending most of her time in a kitchen when she was not being an amateur beauty.

Mary Katherine Campbell of Columbus, Ohio, Miss America in 1922 and 1923, was given an ovation today at the distribution of prizes won during the 1925 pageant on the million dollar pier.

Miss Campbell was given the original golden mermaid trophy reported to be worth $5,000. Miss Lanphier received a replica of the trophy worth $2,000.

Trophies similar to the one given Miss Lanphier are to be awarded to Miss Margaret Gorman of Washington, D.C., winner in 1921 and Miss Ruth Malcolmson of Philadelphia, last year’s selection, who did not compete this year because she alleged “commercial” beauties were entered. Neither of the girls was in the city and the trophies will be sent to them.

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Date Posted: 18:58:48 09/21/15 Mon

Jaimie Alexander:

I can see where people wouldn't like this, I like the jewel tones and I like that it's different. It works well with her coloring.

Sarah Hyland

To me, this was the gown of the night. Sheer red carpet perfection.

Sarah Paulson

I liked the overall concept, different, you notice it yet it isn't overpowering the star. Just very classy.

Aubrey Plaza

Like Acacia's Miss America gown but with sparkle. She's not exactly a fashionista, she does her own thing with regards to the red carpet but this one was a hit.

Kristen Schall (who?)

I still don't know who she is but I love this dress.

PLUG: Speaking of Emmys, if you have not seen Olive Kitteridge yet, pick an afternoon this weekend and see it. It is every bit as good as the wins suggest. It isn't a "feel good" kind of movie, but that's why it's excellent. I saw some of the best acting I've ever seen on the small screen. Just excellent.

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Subject: Countdown to 100 - (1926)

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Date Posted: 12:48:31 11/02/15 Mon

From 1923 thru 1927 the inter-city contestants were divided into 5 regions to compete for Roller Chair Parade judging and Bathers Revue judging. The top 3 from each of the 5 regional divisions in Bathers Revue became the 15 semi-finaltists to compete for Miss America.

All the inter-city contestants competed together for the Most Beautiful Girl in Evening Wear competition. (ie there were no regional divisions)

Roller Chair Parade
1 - New York
2 - Lockport
3 - Yonkers

1 - Philadelphia
2 - Orange
3 - Union City

1 - Baltimore
2 - New Orleans
3 - Huntingdon

1 - Duluth
2 - Lansing
3 - Battle Creek

1 - Wichita
2 - Tulsa
3 - Tacoma

Bather Revue
1 - New York
2 - Bridgeport
3 - Yonkers

1 - Philadelphia
2 - Newark
3 - Orange

1 - DC
2 - Dallas
3 - Norfolk

1 - Lansing
2 - Kansas City
3 - St Louis

1 - Tulsa
2 - Denver
3 - Seattle

Evening Gown
1 - Tulsa
2 - New York
3 - DC

Top 6: Baltimore, Elizabeth, Kansas City
Top 18: Bridgeport, Dallas, Denver, Lansing, Newark, Norfolk, Orange, Philadelphia, Seattle, St Louis, Utah, Yonkers

Parade (Grand Prize)
New York

Totally separate from the Inter-City competitions include the following Bather Revue winners:
Amateur Division:
1 - Miss Kirby
2 - Margaret Sullivan
3 - Helen Boyle
Professional Division:
1 - Rose Host
2 - ?
3 - Ruby Stevens, Miss Beaux Arts Café
1 - Marian Ryan, MNiss West Atlantic City
2 - Mary Mavretic, Miss Brigantine
1 - Annete Kellerman's Bathing Girls
Professional Group:
1 - Naught Riquette

The third place Professional winner was Ruby Stevens who went on to be the movie star Barbara Stanwyck

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Subject: Has California dominance ended?

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Date Posted: 13:05:42 09/18/15 Fri

3 out of 4 now have failed to make the top 15. Ernie is here, do you think it is because of the internal Miss California problems? What happened? Bree had a great personality, Marina was beautiful and talented. I could see Leah being out, she wasn't that outstanding. But the other two I don't get. What's going on?

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Subject: Betty's Lipstick

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Date Posted: 16:50:23 11/13/15 Fri

Silly question, but does anyone happen to know the brand or name of the lipstick color Betty is wearing in the crowning/press conference photo at the top of this page? It is so beautiful! Thanks in advance.

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Subject: Coutndown to 100 - (1926)

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Date Posted: 12:22:04 10/20/15 Tue

Who was the first Miss America to appear in a major movie?

Fay Lanphier. At the Miss America pageant in 1926 a separate set of judges judged the 15 Miss America semifinalists to pick the Most Photogenic who would win the prize to appear in the major movie American Venus. It was totally separate from the Miss America judging and the director of the film Frank Tuttle was one of the judges of the Most Photogenic contest.

Later Fay also won Miss America and a newspaper of the time claimed that the pageant had been fixed. The newspaper later retracted their claim. The film American Venus was a success. The pageant scenes were filmed in color at the actual pageant and the rest of the movie was filmed on Long Island New York. The film is considered “lost” but the color pageant scenes exist on file at the Library of Congress.

For winning the Most Photogenic contest Fay also received the two foot high bronze American Venus statue trophy created by Belgian artist Helene Sardeau.

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Subject: Countdown to 100 - (1921)

This is the earliest article I have found concerning M.A.
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Date Posted: 06:56:37 10/21/15 Wed

Newark Sunday Call, April 10, 1921
Atlantic City. Pageant Day in Atlantic City hereafter is to be a municipal holiday.

Mayor Edward L. Bader after a conference with the officials of the roller chair parade, made that decision and September 8 is to be the city’s specified fete day. To that effect a proclamation will be issued by the Mayor the first of September, with the request that all commercial houses shall close and give their employees a holiday.

The arrangement committee has been busily at work and the outline of a program for this fall has been prepared, with details to be filled in from week to week. There will be five big divisions in the pageant, with prizes plentiful for the best displays.

The first four divisions will lead up to the fifth and main divisions, the imposing “Bathers’ Revue” which has been divided into sections A and B. In section A will be girls who are not actresses, or in professional theatrical work of any kind. Section B will take in stage folk, movie stars and professional swimmers, and in each section a huge loving cup will be awarded the girl acclaimed to be the most beautiful by the judges. Then in the evening another choice will be made of the most beautiful girl, this time popular approval to be the influencing factor. Whoever captures the honor will receive the grand prize of a golden statuette, “The Golden Mermaid.” And a $5,000 bond will have to be furnished by some friendly backer to ensure the winner will not dispose of it for one year.

The winner of “The Golden Mermaid” will receive the honor of being classified as “America’s most beautiful bathing girl” and her picture will be sent broadcast on posters and pamphlets and all correspondence to advertise the pageant for 1922.

For Section A, Annette Kellerman has donated the prize cup and she will be one of the judges. “Flo” Ziegfeld has also consented to serve as a judge and other eminent persons will be secured to round out the jury panel of beauty. The entries in division B already make up a formidable list and by fall this portion of the parade. It is certain will be prepared as one of great proportions.

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Subject: Does anyone know the dates for MAOT 2016

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Date Posted: 17:13:17 09/16/15 Wed

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Subject: Is this a dead board now?

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Date Posted: 07:34:22 10/12/15 Mon

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Subject: Golden Mermaid

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Date Posted: 11:36:26 10/01/15 Thu

Someone on another message board stated that the MAO offices have one of the Golden Mermaid trophies, but they don't have any real information concerning this. Does anyone know or have any information if the MAO actually owns one of the Golden Mermaids? Or does anyone know where and who has a Golden Mermaid other than Norma Smallwood's niece(who has Norma's).
Thank you.

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Subject: Were the Non-Finalist Talent Winners and Non-Finalist Interview winner ever announced?

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Date Posted: 11:36:36 09/16/15 Wed

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Subject: This used to be such an upbeat positive board...what happened?

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Date Posted: 22:02:48 09/20/15 Sun

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