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Subject: Invalid logic. Author: Wade A. Tisthammer [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 03/23/04 8:17pm In reply to: Damoclese 's message, "Logic stew" on 03/22/04 3:28pm >>That's true, but that doesn't imply that you'll never >>reach the end, unless you actually halve your >>distance at each step. > > >Sure it does. You wouldn't even have to halve it. >You'd simply have to travel all those distances less >than 1/8, which I think you'll find to be infinite. Which is irrelevant to the conclusion of not being able to traverse the distance. Again, the conclusion of not being able to travel the distance does not logically follow. It's true that you can divide a distance into (potentially) infinite number of divisions, but that doesn't follow that the finite distance can't be traversed. >>Perhaps the Shandy argument is flawed. But since it >>is deductivley valid, the only way it can fail >>is if one of the premises fail. Perhaps a premise >>does fail. But that would require some clear and >>specific justification, not just some vague assertions >>about calculus, ignorance, knowing the unknowable, or >>anything of the sort. > >When I clearly understand what in the world a >beginningless task is logically A beginningless task, in the Tristram Shandy scenario, is one where he has always been writing throughout the infinite past. >and when I understand >what it means for the past to be infinite A past that is beginningless, consisting of an infinite number of years etc. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date Invalid validity Damoclese 03/24/04 7:06am How? -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 03/24/04 10:38am Cause -- Damoclese, 03/24/04 3:07pm Effect -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 03/25/04 12:55pm Your objection is noted but irrelevant -- Damoclese, 03/25/04 1:47pm Speaking of irrelevant, what's calculus got to do with it? -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 03/29/04 12:48pm Calculus -- QUITTNER, 04/ 5/04 1:50pm you oughtta -- Damoclese, 04/ 5/04 3:09pm ...explain yourself. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 04/ 6/04 10:50am terse answers -- Damoclese, 04/ 6/04 7:41pm Succinct replies. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 04/ 7/04 11:48pm That's what I'm talking about -- Damoclese, 04/ 8/04 7:44am Really? -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 04/ 8/04 10:07am Watch this -- Damoclese, 04/ 8/04 10:29am I'm watching. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 04/11/04 9:38pm and oh yeah -- damoclese, 04/ 8/04 10:51am Oh yeah! Kool Aid for everyone! -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 04/11/04 9:48pm Assuming -- Damoclese, 04/12/04 8:25am Infinity. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 04/12/04 10:25am heh -- Damoclese, 04/12/04 11:14am Tee hee. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 04/12/04 4:47pm "one" -- Damoclese, 04/12/04 6:56pm Two -- Wade A. Tishtammer, 04/14/04 1:06pm What's good for the goose -- Damoclese, 04/14/04 5:04pm What other alternatives are there? -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 04/15/04 11:37am Ganders -- Damoclese, 04/15/04 5:36pm Why abandon logic? -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 04/28/04 12:14pm Hiatus over -- Damoclese, 04/28/04 6:53pm Illogical to abandon logic. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 04/29/04 12:47pm what a bounty -- Damoclese, 04/29/04 2:25pm Of logic. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 05/ 2/04 3:11pm of intuition -- Damoclese, 05/ 4/04 10:51am Of more logic. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 05/ 7/04 2:25pm One mistake... -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 04/15/04 11:40am