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Subject: My bottom 10 Miss Americas (1959-2018) based on finals competition are: (1959) Mary Ann Mobley, (1963) Jacquelyn Mayer, (1967) Jane Jayroe, (1970) Pamela Eldred, (1974) Rebecca Ann King, (1976) Tawny Godin, (1996) Shawntel Smith, (2003) Erika Harold, (2015) Kira Kazantsev, (2018) Cara Mund. Mary Anne, Jane, Pamela and Erika had all won prelim awards (so theoretically couldn't have been too 'out of nowhere'), so my answer is my other 6 :) Author: Pageant Statistician [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 05:45:38 01/30/26 Fri Author Host/IP: 99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249 In reply to: 's message, "Which Miss America winner was the one that struck you as the most " came out of nowhere" to take the title? Mine would be Tawny Godin. This is not a slam to the winners that year, but basically means they were just flying under the radar" on 11:44:36 01/29/26 Thu [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date I had neglected to mention Shawntel Smith in my list of surprises. I had her nowhere near the top. As you may recall, that year the top three were all non-preliminary winners. (NT) No name (216-24-92-182.unassigned.ntelos.net/216.24.92.182) 09:39:59 01/30/26 Fri Mary Ann! Blasphemy! Lol How could she be on your bottom 10? That face! That personality! She was so beautiful and cute. Before my time, but I've seen the tape. I thought she was a slam dunk winner. (NT) -- No name, 11:02:17 01/30/26 Fri (113.sub-174-216-10.myvzw.com/174.216.10.113) Before my time too - the year my mother was born hah. I have no objections to your jovial reply, but one thing I've never understood, is imagine how boring discussion would be if we all had the same lists! For the record, I had Mary Anne 7th in Talent, 3rd in Gown (where my scoring focuses on fashion / fit), 8th in Swim (where my scoring focuses on fitness and figure, which admittedly weren't really the goals back in 1959, which admittedly brought with it a certain level of disjointedness in my scoring. Overall, I had her 7th of the Top 10, and 4th of the Top 5 (ahead of only Iowa, who ironically was her 1RU). So not bad scores by any means, I just had her ranked 51st of the 60 Miss Americas I've seen in competition. For the record, and speaking of scoring disjointedness, I thought the runaway winner of the pageant that year was Anita Bryant... who of course ended up being the literal devil lol. (NT) -- Pageant Statistician, 00:03:00 02/01/26 Sun (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) Anita totally BOMBED her osq and Mary Ann nailed it. Iowa nailed it too but Mary Ann also had the looks. (NT) -- The judges got it right., 18:11:08 02/19/26 Thu (syn-107-147-195-037.biz.spectrum.com/107.147.195.37) I would have loved to have seen Alabama or Mississippi in the top five over OK and CA, even Kansas. Wasn't Kansas a double preliminary winner? (NT) -- No name, 10:35:15 01/31/26 Sat (NoHost/212.15.84.241) I agree with you. I thought CA / AR / OR deserved their spots in the Top 5, and I would have replaced IL and OK with KS and AL. I did have IL very close to the Top 5 in my own scoring though, so in reality, the only true objection I had in the Top 5 was the winner herself. (NT) -- Pageant Statistician, 00:10:18 02/01/26 Sun (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) Indeed, I have her dead last - lower than even Erika Harold. Shawntel is a gorgeous lady, but brought absolutely nothing of note in on-stage competition. But I also don't buy into the 'She won because of the Oklahoma City bombing' conspiracy theory, which always felt a little too on the nose. Has her interview ever been released? It likely came up in her Interview and may have gotten her some extra points, but other than that, why would anyone put their integrity / reputation on the line to fix a win for a random lady who happened to be from a state that was having a hard year? Doesn't make much sense. (NT) -- Pageant Statistician, 00:08:00 02/01/26 Sun (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) It was very justified, to me, that Tawny Godin won Miss America. She stood out with her All-American persona. Her original piano composition was a rarity. She later said it wasn't as good as she hoped, or something similar. But esteemed composer, Henry Mancini told her that he watched her on Miss America and that she deserved the win. (NT) no name (226.sub-97-190-55.myvzw.com/97.190.55.226) 23:24:37 01/30/26 Fri This is an earnest question - what do you mean by 'All-American persona'? I love Tawny and am THRILLED that we have a liberal arts girl as a Miss America winner, but she was a nerdy weirdo who spoke like a newscaster lol. I also personally hate original piano compositions, because how on earth would I know if you're performing something well if the piece doesn't formally exist? lol. Though a Henry Mancini testimonial is a big deal! (NT) -- Pageant Statistician, 00:12:48 02/01/26 Sun (99-74-180-249.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.74.180.249) And he would be a better judge than any of us. Also, he was as American as one could be. He recognized that Tawny was indeed All-American. (NT) -- All American was a popular term to describe a wholesome celebrity at that time period., 17:28:58 02/01/26 Sun (226.sub-97-190-55.myvzw.com/97.190.55.226) What surprising life, career we never would have expected after competing at Miss America? -- No name, 21:58:49 02/16/26 Mon (syn-067-250-082-140.res.spectrum.com/67.250.82.140) You know when something is played well because you are moved by it. You don't need to hear it beforehand to know a quality performance when you see one. (NT) -- No name, 15:35:28 02/18/26 Wed (syn-174-100-040-048.res.spectrum.com/174.100.40.48) Tawny's piano composition was technically very easy. (NT) -- No name, 07:27:47 02/28/26 Sat (NoHost/172.56.80.0) Maybe that's why she wasn't so satisfied with her original composition but it sure must have boosted her ego when Henry Mancini, a renowned musician told her he watched and listened to her and he approved. (NT) -- no name, 01:13:04 03/11/26 Wed (3.sub-97-170-106.myvzw.com/97.170.106.3)