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Subject: JIMMY ROBINSON: Right one found


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JARVIS---Chicago (ANM Exclusive)
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Date Posted: Fri, January 03 2020, 8:31:04

http://www.lordheath.com/Jimmy_Robinson.html

LORDHEATH's suspicions about JIMMY's questionable stats are substantiated. That other "kid", JAMES ORVELL ROBINSON, was an actual person who fit those stats EXCEPT he was the WRONG person given as a co-star of the MICKEY McGUIRE films and parts in other films including "Wild Babies!"
I'm trying to catch up with all of the fantastic, well-documented "EXCLUSIVES" that JESSE BRISSON has found for ANM!
He "sets the record straight" regularly!

Real name: JAMES HENRY ROBINSON.
born: 06 April 1922.
Los Angeles, California, United States of America.

died: 03 November 1988.
Los Angeles, California, United States of America.
(age 66).

His Birth Certificate gives his name as "JIMMIE ROBINSEN" born to "Elijah" (1875-1950) and "Jenette Robinsen" (c.1878-????). He worked as a boilermaker for the Union Pacific RR and located to CA from TX before 1910. The Mom was also from TX but met and married Elijah in LA in 1920.
He was divorced and she was a widow (Smith) and her maiden name was Robson or Robeson.

While at Thomas Jefferson High School in Los Angeles (c.1939), after school, weekends, holidays, and summer breaks, he and other students played "gigs" with professional bands. Jimmy played with the Al Adams Band. Even so, he was one of only three black students ( with Dexter Gordon & Chico Hamilton) to get "A's" in Mrs. Smith's English class and she was known to be tough! Stymie Beard attended the same High School, three years behind them.

James Henry Robinson registered for the WWII Draft on 30 June 1942 and listed his employer as "Les Hite". On 07 December 1942 he enlisted in the US Cavalry with a civilian job classification as "Musician and.....". It's very possible that he went to the segregated all-Black 10th ("Buffalo Soldiers") or 28th Cavalry Regiments stationed at Camp Lockett CA to guard the Mexican border about 60 miles in the desert from San Diego. Several Jazz musicians from his "South Central" LA neighborhood were drafted or enlisted and were placed in the military band unit at Camp Lockett or other bases as told in interviews of LA Jazz musicians taped for an oral history project conducted by UCLA in the 1990's.

A newspaper "blurb" from 24 October 1942 says ".....Jimmy Robinson, trombonist with Les Hite, will be remembered by those out of their 'teens as "Hambone" of the Mickey McGuire movies".

"James Robinson" is listed as one of two trombonists on Les Hite records recorded earlier in 1942 in Los Angeles.

By 1945, Les Hite had pretty much "drifted" out of the music business when Jimmy was discharged from the US Army on 17 December 1945.

In LA in October 1946, his sister, Emma, married professional boxer, Wm. Doyle Mitchell.

In 1947, "James Robinson" was playing trombone in Lionel Hampton's Orchestra.

In December 1950, he is the "informant" for his Dad, Elijah's, LA Death Certificate.

I assume he continued playing for various Jazz bands. Many of these musicians changed bands (and sometimes instruments) often, making them difficult to follow especially with a common name like "Robinson" as a musician. "Big" Jim Robinson (1892-1976) was a Jazz trombonist from New Orleans who evidently never played with the Les Hite Orchestra. There was a contemporary "Jimmy" Robinson who played coronet for various Jazz bands, for example.

Sources:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K8ZR-RS3 1920 Nov 26 LA: Elijah Robinson marr Jennette Robson Smith.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGL7-JGXL 1922 Apr 6 LA birth JIMMIE ROBINSEN.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VPX8-G1Z 1988 Nov 3 death CADI:b. 1922 Apr 06: JAMES HENRY ROBINSON.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/85933174 Grave JAMES HENRY ROBINSON.
https://books.google.com/books?id=ctNSi1g34CgC&pg=PA258-IA16&lpg=PA258-IA16&dq=%22JAMES+ROBINSON%22+AND+TROMBONE&source=bl&ots=ItRMEx-J37&sig=ACfU3U1huYz1-XSE6Aw5X0BlecBApuXrvQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjHzceNouHmAhVbZc0KHcsPAdgQ6AEwEHoECB4QAg#v=onepage&q=%22JAMES%20ROBINSON%22%20AND%20TROMBONE&f=false 1939 with Al Adams Band.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS2B-6SQW-Z?i=18&cc=2786603&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQGFS-C3WX 1942 Jun 30 LA Draft Registration:empl Les Hite:ht.5'3":
https://fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html 1942 Oct.24 p.6:with Les Hite Orch: was "Hambone" with MICKEY McGUIRE.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KMF9-FHJ 1942 Dec 07 LA enlists Cavalry: civilian musician: 4 yrs HS: ht.5'4".
https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=2441&h=1064862&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=2238 1945 Dec 17: Army discharge.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K8KZ-JJH 1946 Oct 27 LA: sister Emma marries prof boxer Wm.Mitchell.
http://www.newworldrecords.org/liner_notes/80284.pdf 1947 Nov 10 LA: records w Lionel Hampton Orchestra.
https://jdisc.columbia.edu/issue/lionel-hampton-chronogical-lionel-hampton-and-his-orchestra-1947 1947 Nov 10 LA: ditto above.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPQC-7RHC 1950 Dec 12 LA: Informant for Dad's Death Certificate.
https://wiki2.org/en/Jefferson_High_School_(Los_Angeles)#Notable_alumni Jefferson HS notable alumni:no Jimmy (not famous enough) but Dexter Gordon, Chico Hamilton and Mathew Beard.
https://tedpanken.wordpress.com/2013/11/26/r-i-p-chico-hamilton-september-20-1921-november-25-2013-two-wkcr-interviews-and-a-downbeat-blindfold-test/ c.1939 LA:HS grade "A" in English.
http://oralhistory.library.ucla.edu/viewFile.do?itemId=30101&fileSeq=8&xsl=http://oralhistory.library.ucla.edu/xslt/local/tei/xml/tei/stylesheet/xhtml2/tei.xsl#p150 1942 South Central musicians enlist in US Cavalry Band.
https://wiki2.org/en/Jim_Robinson_(trombonist) "Big" Jim Robinson (1892-1971): one of several musician Jimmy Robinson's.

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Re: JIMMY ROBINSON: Right one foundLord (impressed!)Fri, January 03 2020, 13:21:25
Re: JIMMY ROBINSON: Right one foundJesse (ditto!)Sat, January 04 2020, 7:58:27
Incorrect Death AgeMatthewMon, January 06 2020, 9:49:28
One More ThingMatthewMon, January 06 2020, 10:11:05


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