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Subject: That sucks for Jaeleen and Autumn. Autumn’s been on her high horse (what’s new) about having the highest score. Made no sense that she beat Jaeleen when she won awards and Autumn didn’t. Jaeleen was clearly the highest score based on her awards and got the title that was thrown in at the last minute. Autumn is always a sore loser so if this gets in her head that she isn’t the “real” Greater Cleveland she won’t make T5. Steven should fix this at Forum now that everyone knows. Author: No name [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 19:52:50 03/25/23 Sat In reply to: 's message, "Per LED Charmae: Steven Oliveri intervened at Greater Cleveland and chose which girls got which titles" on 18:39:06 03/25/23 Sat [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: Why now, after literally 20+ yrs of awarding the Miss Greater Cleveland title to the top ranked girl did Steven interject himself into this local and instruct their auditor, without discussing or informing the local's Executive Director, to break with protocol of awarding by rank- GC, Northern Ohio, Spirit of Ohio, & the new Lake Erie title and award the titles as he wanted. As OH ED, he *might* contractually have that right, yet he clearly went behind Charmae's back. That's in her own words. Why wouldn't he tell her beforehand if it was above board or came from the new owner? Why didn't he at least have it announced that the titles were awarded randomly? Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 07:51:21 03/26/23 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: I think Steven didn't want the former Miss Ohio Volunteer to swoop in last minute and take it all at Greater Cleveland but rather, make it appear to the pageant community as if she came in 3RU by receiving the new Lake Erie title. Jaeleen won talent & OSQ- 50%. Charmea knows she's got a ringer in Jaeleen and Steven wanted to knock her down a peg or two, so when he crowns the girl he wants in June rather than Jaeleen, people won't question it bc they think she came in 4th at Cleveland. Author: No name [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:54:33 03/26/23 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: I was worried Jaeleen would be blackballed bc of Miss Volunteer and when I saw the results, they looked off. How did the girl who won talent & OSQ and is in great shape manage to come in 4th?!? My gut was right- Charmea confirmed she didn't come in 4th but Steven switched the titles to make it look like she did. Author: Steven Oliveri Sucks [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:04:26 03/26/23 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]