Sorry, JohnG92, for being the skeptic but I gotta see it to believe it! What is Frank waiting for? Oh, now I get it. He's waiting for Army to turn its program into a winning one. Then Army will be on our schedule. DUH, what was I thinking? -- FORDHAM RAMS FOOTBALL FORUM

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Subject: Sorry, JohnG92, for being the skeptic but I gotta see it to believe it! What is Frank waiting for? Oh, now I get it. He's waiting for Army to turn its program into a winning one. Then Army will be on our schedule. DUH, what was I thinking?

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Date Posted: 22:39:24 12/09/04 Thu
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I find your post questionable. We heard several years ago that we would be playing Yale in 2005 and 2006 and that never happened. Why would Army play us when we don't have a stadium to host them for a return home game? And wanting to play Harvard is very different than seeing them on the schedule. The fact remains that the schedule for the next 4 seasons is incredibly unattractive for alums, students and recruits. Some heads should roll. (NT) Rambacker 23:10:07 12/09/04 Thu

Not sure it's realistic to expect any return games from any I-A team, especially without at least a 15K stadium and I would say even with one. Army didn't give HC a return game and they certainly have the capacity. Not sure yet that heads should roll but pointed questions should be asked. (NT) DamnRam 08:39:15 12/10/04 Fri

If Army is going to play a 1AA school, I can't see them playing on the road. They played Yale, Colgate and Holy Cross in the '90's but I think it was always at home. Maybe someone in the administration will take notice of how bad the schedule is and make some changes. Games get changed all the time. I'm sure for $10K and two years notice Marist and Duquesne would take the check and find a new opponent (NT) -- An Old Coach, 10:29:37 12/10/04 Fri

You want me to change some of these games? No way. I spent alot of time putting these schedules together and I'm ot going back and redoing my work. (NT) -- FXMcL, 12:48:27 12/10/04 Fri

I find your post confusing. Do you think I'm lying, or being lied to? (NT) JohnG92 20:43:15 12/10/04 Fri

I believe you are being misled and frankly, used. Dave Clawson did not want, nor did he plan to have, the schedule that's been released. I would suggest that you consider the source of your information. Who did you talk to? (NT) -- Rambacker, 22:01:40 12/10/04 Fri

Without directly getting that from Dave I'm not sure how you can make that statement. When he was here I spoke to him on several occasions and recruiting and getting enough wins was always at the top of his agenda, as it should have been. As to who I spoke to, I wouldn't want to say unless that person approved. I do know that Fordham has been actively trying to schedule Army, and that Coach Foley wants Harvard. It doesn't seem to me that anyone is content playing only mid major OOC games. (NT) -- JohnG92, 09:21:59 12/11/04 Sat

Dave Clawson wanted to upgrade the schedule, not downgrade it. The new schedule is not his doing. (NT) -- Rambacker, 12:13:58 12/11/04 Sat

There's a post from Prince that references a conversation they had w/Clawson where he defended the logic of playing a patsy OOC schedule. Are you saying that Clawson's opinion changed once the program was better established and he thought we could now handle better teams or that Prince got it wrong? FWIW, I remember Dave stating the preference for weaker OOC opponents at one of the Gridiron Club meetings but that was before our PL title. (NT) -- PA Ram, 10:22:48 03/04/05 Fri

Coffey's 7,000 seat capacity is not limiting Fordham's ability to schedule Army (or Harvard). In fact, Army writes $75,000 checks to keep its few 1-AA opponents from whining all the way to Michie for what Army hopes will be Christians vs. Lions entertainment for its fans. Army even resisted its home and home series with UConn --- a cash cow for both schools. (NT) -- Ramses, 16:35:59 03/02/05 Wed