• Good point but it doesn't surprise me at all. Even if they don't want our opinions you would think they'd create some sketches or a scale model of the new Coffey Field for use as a fundraising tool at games and alumni events this season. They spend several million dollars and don't even create a web page to help build the anticipation? Another example of Fordham missing several opportunities to portray itself favorably. (NT) -- DamnRam, 09:50:50 12/03/04 Fri
• Don't know if alumni input is especially important or appropriate. A major donor isn't paying for the renovation. I think Fordham has done a pretty good job on construction projects over the past few years and I don't think Fr. McShane is going to let them build a several million dollar eyesore or something impractical. (NT) -- Ramadama, 10:15:44 12/03/04 Fri
  • For projects like this alumni input is ALWAYS important and appropriate, even if no one alumnus the sponsor. Alumni are constantly barraged for requests for money, to attend events, to hire recent students, refer potential students, etc. - it's foolish to think we shouldn't at least be asked for our ideas. To imply the Administration couldn't benefit from the experience and input of alumni is simply naive and arrogant. It's also one reason the alumni giving rate is so low. Ignoring the alumni produces apathy, getting us involved in planning stages produces emotional commitment. (NT) -- DamnRam, 10:51:13 12/03/04 Fri
    • Not my point. It isn't always practical to get input. Which alums would you ask for input and how much detail do you ask for? You hire professionals to do a job. You have to let them do it. If there is a structure in place to solicit this kind of advice, like am athletic committee, I'd agree. I don't think you just solicit feedback without structure. (NT) -- Ramadama, 12:23:07 12/03/04 Fri
      • Since the upgrade plan IS in place. Can anyone tell me where I can get a look. I dont care how formal a drawing or if its just a sketch. Want to see where lights and scoreboard will be placed. As well as colors and insignia at midfield. (NT) -- classof93, 12:35:28 12/03/04 Fri
      • There is a structure in place (Gridiron Club), and the Administration could send emails to the student body and known athletics contributors, put a notice on the website and this board, etc. with a message as simple as "Here's something we'd like to get your thoughts on. How can we make it even better? Send all ideas to Dr. Byrne's office by X date using Y email address or Z phone number". Fordham knows how to find us for fundraising purposes, they certainly could show respect for our opinions. Sometimes the best ideas come from your customers. (NT) -- DamnRam, 14:08:29 12/03/04 Fri
      • Were "the professionals" right about the way they handled the radio tower? The Athletic Department? PR for the school? (NT) -- Tesla, 16:11:13 12/03/04 Fri
• The point is FU misses an opportunity to include alumni. FU sends 10 -15 mail solitications for $ each year.. Ideas and suggestions from alum could be useful (whether ideas were taken from other ftbl venues or experience) ... regardless FU could have generated positive fundraising momentum by displaying a rendering. Even if FU didn't include 1 suggestion ...it is poor practice to not include your alumni whatsoever...Lets hope next fall Coffey Field looks more like a collegiate stadium ..rather than a H.S. field.. (NT) -- sean#57, 12:27:26 12/03/04 Fri
• The reason they did not ask for opinions re. the reconfiguration is that they did not want them or believe they would cause more trouble than they are worth. For example, thank you very much for your suggestion that we buy pink turf with a zebra skin pattern in the end zones, however, we are going in another direction i.e. chartreuse turf with a leopard skin end zone. (NT) -- Jimbo65, 15:01:19 12/03/04 Fri
  • How about disco balls hanging from sequin-covered goalposts? (NT) -- The Hustle, 15:33:39 12/03/04 Fri
• No sequins, they would clah with the leopard skin. (NT) -- Jimbo65, 15:44:18 12/03/04 Fri
  • HOW ABOUT A REALLY UGLY POORLY PLACED RADIO TOWER??? OH,FU ADMIN DID THAT ON THEIR OWN TOO!!!!!!!! (NT) -- xxx, 15:27:10 12/06/04 Mon
• I’d like to see “FORDHAM” in large block letters in one end zone and “RAMS” in the other. Hundreds of planes fly over campus each week on approach to LaGuardia. It’d be free advertising for the school and football program. BTW, my brother heard the WFUV interview with Frank. He said Frank referred to Fordham alum and Iona radio announcer Gary Stanley as “Gary Shandling”. Anyone else hear it? Having never heard Frank interviewed before, my bro said he couldn’t believe he was listening to the athletic director of a major-conference school. (NT) -- ramMan, 19:46:07 12/04/04 Sat
  • Could have been worse, could have called him Larry Sanders. Hey now! (NT) -- J. Tambor, 17:17:54 12/07/04 Tue
    • Re: Along with the stadium improvements, how about going back to the Red over White home uniforms and all white on the road, with the present helmets? Lafayette has it and it looks great. (NT) -- Go...'gate, 21:37:20 12/08/04 Wed
      • Stadium? What stadium? (NT) -- Rambacker, 23:31:45 12/08/04 Wed

Sophomore football cornerback Reshard Hicks was selected as the A-10 Indoor Track & Field Co-Performer of the Week.

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• Does anyone else find it strange that the press release doesn't include the names of the other 4 colleges in the "Fordham Invitational"? Who were they? (NT) -- Rambacker, 18:02:48 12/07/04 Tue
  • Iona, Fairleigh Dickinson, Stony Brook and St. Peter's. (NT) -- ramMan, 18:07:17 12/07/04 Tue
    • No wonder we finished 1st. (NT) -- Rambacker, 22:58:33 12/07/04 Tue
      • you are a jerk, Rambacker. If someone said that about your beloved basketball, you would howl. (NT) -- friend of track and field, 23:45:31 12/07/04 Tue
        • Hey, I'm happy we finished first. But that's not exactly a top shelf group we competed against. (NT) -- Rambacker, 07:23:52 12/08/04 Wed
• Well neither is our Basketball competition and we still get kicked around like GARBAGE! Let's celebrate a Fordham athletic achievement, they are too few and far between. Besides, every victory helps in our goal of taking athletics to the next level. (NT) -- gorams, 12:40:37 12/08/04 Wed
  • I genuinely hope our track & field program is improving. But that meet was against a weak field. Hope we can schedule better. FU hoop competition this year includes Villanova, Western Kentucky, Xavier, George Washington, Dayton, Richmond, Temple, UMass and Manhattan. Those are pretty good programs. (NT) -- Rambacker, 13:56:57 12/08/04 Wed
    • Good Programs? Come on...!!!! Don't kid yourself. (NT) -- gorams, 15:20:03 12/08/04 Wed
      • Obviously you don't follow college basketball very closely. (NT) -- Rambacker, 23:27:00 12/08/04 Wed

• Then as a winner, he'll do fine in his chosen field. Perhaps someday, well see him coaching the Jets, or better yet, owning the team. Go for it, Kirwin. (NT) -- Joe S. ' 58, 10:41:16 11/27/04 Sat
• Re: Kirwin Watson -- FUgrad, 10:46:17 12/07/04 Tue

Zellner Award-winner Chris Pugliese, a 6-2, 310-pound defensive tackle, "hopes to play at either Fordham, Stony Brook, Marist, Amherst or C.W. Post."

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• That New England land grant "cow college" on ESPN2 again!!! :-) (NT) -- ramMan, 10:30:21 12/02/04 Thu
  • Imagine that. (NT) -- Rambacker, 16:55:18 12/02/04 Thu
• With all the league championship games today only cows with cable will be watching. (NT) -- Ramadama, 08:56:48 12/04/04 Sat
  • Mooo… Two A-10 teams (William & Mary and James Madison) won their second-round playoff games today. Again, half the teams competing in next week’s round (semifinals) will be from the A-10. Rambacker, will there be a I-AA playoff game on ESPN2 again next week? (NT) -- ramMan, 18:33:55 12/04/04 Sat
    • Who won the Auburn-Tennesee game? I was so caught up in the 1-AA excitement I forgot all about it. (NT) -- Arnold the Pig, 08:14:46 12/05/04 Sun
    • All three 1-AA Playoff games are on ESPN2 this weekend. William and Mary plays James Madison on ESPN2 at 7pmET this Friday, Dec. 10th. (NT) -- Rambacker, 22:32:06 12/05/04 Sun

• Don't know extent of injuries to these fine players, Garritano hurt in Brown game, Johnson, DL and long snapper in Georgetown game, which proved to be disastrous the next week against Bucknell and again against Colagte at home. Would also like to know status of Chris Anzano, db and punt returner, who was apparently injured in summer camp but made a go with knee brace in, I believe, first 2 games. (NT) -- whm, 12:34:44 12/04/04 Sat

1996 3,368
1997 2,944
1998 3,719
1999 3,740
2000 4,179
2001 4,752
2002 4,090
2003 4,932
2004 4,008

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• Fordham has made NO effort to entice the public to football games over last decade... OK, FU is not D1 but too never have a plan to increase fan base is poor... promotions, billboards, newspaper ads with schedule, meet and greet players , ftbl schedules on Metro North , a billboard by GWB bridge with ftbl dates, a weekly 1/2 hr cable sports program YES/MSG/NEWS 12/ .. you may mention budget but FU does nothing to incorporate or generate interest to general public..... how does FU expect to generate a bigger fan base when all they ever do is alumni mailings... GET an AD who cares... (NT) -- #17, 09:14:02 11/23/04 Tue
  • Good list of marketing tactics. Your best point however was the one about appearing to rely exclusively on promoting to students and alumni when they could also be targeting the general public. Budget is extremely important though, especially when you consider the need to evaluate cost and ROI for each tactic vs. the incremental revenue that would be produced. I think the bigger questions that remain unanswered are how strategic football is to Fordham's Administration, whether it's even a priority to have the stands packed, and if so who they want in those stands. (NT) -- DamnRam, 09:44:59 11/23/04 Tue
  • Not to mention 2-4 in conference (NT) -- Minion, 09:48:53 11/23/04 Tue
    • Minion..... why so bitter all the time? (NT) -- Guy, 15:22:00 11/23/04 Tue
      • I wouldn't be "so bitter" if I didn't read posters blaming marketing, facilities, fans and even the band for the lowlights of this football program (NT) -- Minion, 11:23:17 11/24/04 Wed
        • I disagree... I still think you would be bitter... go find a girl or something man and smile! (NT) -- Guy, 18:59:09 11/24/04 Wed
• Looks like about a 17 percent drop in the past year (excuse the math!). Really too bad because we were in virtually every game this year. Fordham is really wasting a tremendous opportunity by not featuring the football program. (NT) -- An Old Coach, 16:28:00 11/23/04 Tue
  • Yes, we waste more opportunities than most Universities get, home football games included. Lehigh, many time Patriot League Champ, has another honor. It is consistently voted the best Football Saturday campus around. Good crowds – double ours - students in the stand, in bands and pep groups abound. So do a lot of alumni – and their children who are everywhere. So are food booths, branches of the bookstores. Part festival, part football and enviable. And this in Bethlehem, Pa. and we are in the capital of the world, (NT) -- Go Figure, 19:05:14 11/23/04 Tue
• Your comment about us being the capital of the world vs. Bethlehem PA is our problem. Picture yourself waking up on Saturday morning in Bethlehem, what would you do w/ your time? Compared to NYC (NT) -- gorams, 20:05:22 11/23/04 Tue
  • It's easy to think that and dismiss it that way, but further scrutiny shows that logic does not hold. Think about Cornell or Dartmouth: Ithaca and Hanover aren't the center of the universe and they can't draw a straw much less a crowd. There's more to it than a lack of options. If lack of options was all it took, Colgate should have 40,000 fans in the stand each weekend! Lehigh's doing it right and it's working. If you've never been to a game at Goodman, you are missing out. Go and take it all in. It's a fan friendly venue and an event. A lot of PL schools could learn from them. (NT) -- colgate13, 09:08:36 11/24/04 Wed
    • NYC has not been a market for college football in 50 years, or more. Think about it, its New York City and there is not one D-1A football program, not one. The entire state only has three ( syracuse, buffalo, army ) and New Jersey has just one ( Rutgers ) and Connecticut just one( UCONN ). For some reason or for a combination of many reasons, the tri state metro area is not conducive to college football. Hofstra tried every gimmick in the book and it helped little. (NT) -- Snobby New Yorker, 16:08:47 11/28/04 Sun
      • New York is a pro sports town. I has exclusively been this way since WWII. There is too much competition for media space not to mention money. There was a Bowl game in the Meadowlands back in the '80's and it folded. Just not going to happen in the Big Apple. (NT) -- Ramadama, 09:34:03 11/29/04 Mon
        • Sounds like you advocate just dropping our athletic program altogether. Is that correct? (NT) -- Rambacker, 20:47:59 11/29/04 Mon
          • That's idiotic. Of course that isn't correct. Fordham athletics is important to Fordham fans. It is never going to compete for major play in the NY area. (NT) -- Ramadama, 08:48:02 12/03/04 Fri
            • So if we built our basketball program into a Top 20 team and went to the Sweet 16, as several A-10 teams have done recently, we wouldn't get any "major play" in the NY area? (NT) -- Rambacker, 15:21:48 12/03/04 Fri

• Here's another offensive lineman we are recruiting: Dan Voss, a 6-4, 280 pound tackle from St. Joes Prep in Philadelphia. Has 5.02 speed in the 40. Has a 3.4 GPA and 1370 SATs. Temple and Marshall are looking at him; also Penn, Princeton, Columbia & Cornell. Mentions that he has an interest in Army and Navy. Click Here for Article (Registration Required) (NT) -- JoltinJoe, 06:57:54 12/03/04 Fri
  • Sounds like a terrific prospect. Hopefully he’ll want to continue receiving a Jesuit education, here at Fordham. With his GPA and SAT scores, he could earn a substantial merit scholarship here. **If you don’t want to register, click on this message to read the article inside.** -- ramMan, 07:49:45 12/03/04 Fri
• That Prep team was awsome, I think they finished 3rd in the country last year and had like a 13 game winning streak before losing a tough road game out in Pittsburg this year. As a former Hawklete hope he also comes up the turnpike and suits up for the Rams. (NT) -- DebataRam, 09:17:26 12/03/04 Fri

• Poor ole Ramses – the target of our foes even way back then. Click on this message to read a passage from the piece inside. -- ramMan, 19:43:58 11/26/04 Fri
  • Although St. Mary's joked about kidnapping Ramses, we all know other schools actually succeeded in the task. I don't believe that it is mere Urban Legend that Ramses wound up dead on some ocassions. Anyone know for sure? (NT) -- JoltinJoe, 20:02:53 11/29/04 Mon
• Times have changed since student-athletes could take a couple of weeks off for riding trains and getting reporters drunk. San Francisco was so impressed with Gael football, St. Mary's dropped its program. Think Fordam will set aside an Ivy long enough to play an intersectional game? (NT) -- Life, Liberty, and Giuliani, 22:27:05 11/26/04 Fri
  • They can still do it, its called going to St. John's. (NT) -- Picture Phone, 01:51:19 11/27/04 Sat
  • I had advocated here for a long time that we should renew the St. Mary's rivalry. A trip to Moraga every other year would have resulted in the team getting some attention in other media markets, and would have been a recruiting tool too. Unfortunately St. Mary's disbanded its program. I still think an intersectional rival should be considered, but with St. Mary's gone, one does not leap out at me. All of our great intersectional rivals from the past are still playing big-time football. (NT) -- JoltinJoe, 07:25:28 11/27/04 Sat
    • or they've dropped football (NYU, USF, Detroit). It might be time to consider new rivals, but the vibe I get on this board is that potential I-AA opponents are either below Fordham's academic standards, too close to "D3", or some other fatal flaw. Good luck. (NT) -- Life, Liberty, and Giuliani, 18:15:48 11/27/04 Sat
      • What is the status of the Santa Clara program? (NT) -- Joe S. ' 58, 22:43:39 11/27/04 Sat
        • Gone Since 1992 with no hope of return under current administration...boosters have website that looks much like hoyasaxa.com (NT) -- letthemplay.com, 23:06:25 11/27/04 Sat
      • Our conference does include our two most played rivals, Holy Cross and Georgetown, and hopefully both the Crusaders and the Hoyas turn their programs around soon. Meaningful and competitive games against HC and G-Town would be something great. I like the idea of the three teams, each representing a Jesuit college, playing each year for the "Loyola Cup," akin to the Commissioner's Cup series played by the I-A service academies. (NT) -- JoltinJoe, 07:10:19 11/28/04 Sun
        • At their current funding levels, don't expect Holy Cross or Georgetown to be successful soon. Both programs are underfunded. I'd like to see Fordham, Holy Cross and Georgetown go full scholarship 1-AA and compete with Nova, William and Mary, Richmond, Delaware, etc. The scholarships would ensure a level of quality that will excite alums and students and give us a chance to go deep into the playoffs. (NT) -- Rambacker, 10:41:49 11/28/04 Sun
          • Holy Cross Football Is Not Underfunded (more...) -- DFW HOYA, 17:01:16 11/28/04 Sun
            • Is your suggestion that the rest of us feel sorry for or chip in for poor (often arrogant and condecending) Georgetown? (NT) -- As you sow. . ., 17:11:23 11/28/04 Sun
              • Not At All... -- DFW HOYA, 17:19:16 11/28/04 Sun
                • not a flame -- curious, 17:26:14 11/28/04 Sun
                  • Response -- DFW HOYA, 18:54:12 11/28/04 Sun
            • The average per male athlete aid amount for Holy Cross and Georgetown is amazingly low. How the hell can you compete. Full schollies in football at the 1-AA level would solve the problem for Georgetown and Holy Cross. Georgetown, Holy Cross and Fordham should all make the move. (NT) -- Rambacker, 22:05:07 11/28/04 Sun
              • I guess they have other priorities. Go figure. (NT) -- Ramadama, 08:47:54 11/29/04 Mon
                • It's one thing to fund a program adequately(they don't). It's another to embarass the alums and students at an institution. We did that for 15 years and are still paying the price. If you're going to do it, do it right. If you're not, get out of the game. (NT) -- Rambacker, 09:33:57 11/29/04 Mon
                  • Again, they must have other priorities. If they aren't going to do this, they should go play in the MAAC or NEC. I hardly think they are embarrassing students or alumni because they don't want to dump the requisite money into a program they don't care that much about. (NT) -- Ramadama, 14:13:59 11/29/04 Mon
                    • Re: Great story...my father often talks about the Ram-Gael games from when he was a kid - the lineups alone merited a whole section of the Daily News, Herald, etc. It was one of the two biggest annual FB games in NYC at that time; the other was ND-Army. It is a tradition like this that makes the PL fortunate to have Fordham as a Football member. (NT) -- Go...'gate, 17:44:37 11/29/04 Mon
                    • Wow! What a losing mentality. You're fine with a program that just wallows along each year and causes alums and students to develop a negative attitude about the athletic program. This is the mentality that has kept Fordham mired in mediocrity(and worse) for many decades. (NT) -- Rambacker, 18:41:11 11/29/04 Mon
                      • who are you, Rambacker that you know so much on both Boards? Are you even a Fordham graduate and if you are what decade of graduation (NT) -- not impressed, 19:24:00 11/29/04 Mon
                        • The question is who are you? Never seen your moniker before. Establish a bit of credibilty and then get back to us. Perhaps you are not from Fordham? I think so. (NT) -- Rambacker, 20:42:57 11/29/04 Mon
                          • You dodged the question. You would be surprised to learn who I am, Rambacker. Someone whom you call "Sir" and, yes, one of our own. Now, what about you? How does one person have so many opinions about so many things without being either the smartest man in the world or a blowhard? I am sure you will claim the former but many of us have concluded you are the latter. (NT) -- Still not impressed --aka Sir to you, 18:55:09 11/30/04 Tue
                            • You have no credibility whatsoever because you have presented no arguments against my statements. Show some cajones and intelligence by stating your positions in an articulate and persuasive fashion. Otherwise, you're just another useless poster who is probably someone that's been trashed here before and is posting under another name. (NT) -- Rambacker, 22:57:57 11/30/04 Tue
                              • The word you are looking for is "cojones", not "cajones". The latter is plural for "drawer" or "chest". (NT) -- JóDete93, 09:41:31 12/01/04 Wed
                                • I stand corrected. Guess I was spelling it phonetically. Have to assume he already has drawers and/or a chest. (NT) -- Rambacker, 12:38:50 12/01/04 Wed
                              • Rambacker , your postings are better to come home to than a martini and a puppy. You are so thin skinned. You say that I “have presented no arguments against [your] position”. Scroll up, genius. I merely asked who you were, what decade did you graduate. You seem to be so knowledgeable. You have many opinions, some of which with which I agree. Maybe you should be the next AD . Let’s play a game, Rambacker, something like Twenty Questions. I’ll start. Are you the basketball coach with the walkie talkie who embarrassed Fordham? Your turn (NT) -- not impressed, 18:31:55 12/01/04 Wed
                                • Better than a martini and a puppy? OK, I give. That'll do it on this string. And by the way, have another martini. It'll do you good. (NT) -- Rambacker, 22:57:50 12/01/04 Wed
                                  • I got your identity on the first guess! Now you are quitting. You are no fun, Rambacker. Good luck tonight. (NT) -- especially not impressed, 11:30:47 12/02/04 Thu
                                    • Once you recover from the Martinis, find another moniker. The others you've used are more creative. (NT) -- Rambacker, 17:08:21 12/02/04 Thu
                                      • Good, we are playing again. Your turn. Who am I? (NT) -- a little more impressed, 18:30:20 12/02/04 Thu
                                        • Couldn't care less and play time is over. (NT) -- Rambacker, 23:12:01 12/02/04 Thu

Patriot League

Football Expenses
Colgate $3,277,347
Fordham $3,255,639
Holy Cross $2,938,306
Lehigh $2,735,715
Bucknell $2,500,396
Lafayette $2,461,679
Georgetown $1,164,010

Full Time/Part Time Assistant Coaches
Bucknell 7 Full Time/ 2 Part Time
Fordham 6 Full Time/5 Part Time
Lafayette 6 Full Time/5 Part Time
Holy Cross 6 Full Time/4 Part Time
Lehigh 6 Full Time/4 Part Time
Georgetown 6 Full Time/3 Part Time
Colgate 6 Full Time/2 Part Time


Atlantic 10 (I’ve included Fordham for comparison)

Football Expenses
Massachusetts $3,806,154
Villanova $3,285,166
Fordham $3,255,639
Delaware $3,251,752
Hofstra $3,229,408
Richmond $2,961,700
Rhode Island $2,901,917
Northeastern $2,857,096
William & Mary $2,667,056
New Hampshire $2,528,401
James Madison $2,322,931
Maine $2,151,661
Towson $1,373,174

Full Time/Part Time Assistant Coaches
Villanova 10 Full Time/ 0 Part Time
Massachusetts 8 Full Time/ 0 Part Time
Hofstra 7 Full Time/ 4 Part Time
Northeastern 7 Full Time/ 3 Part Time
Richmond 7 Full Time/ 2 Part Time
Delaware 6 Full Time/ 6 Part Time
Fordham 6 Full Time/5 Part Time
Maine 6 Full Time/4 Part Time
New Hampshire 6 Full Time/4 Part Time
Rhode Island 6 Full Time/4 Part Time
Towson 6 Full Time/ 4 Part Time
William & Mary 6 Full Time/ 3 Part Time
James Madison 6 Full Time/ 1 Part Time

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• This shows we could ease into A-10(or CAA/A-10) Football very easily. Looking at Richmond's budget figures compared to Fordham's, it's obvious that being able to offer full scholarships at Richmond was a major factor in Dave Clawson's decision to move on from Rose Hill. (NT) -- Rambacker, 18:36:40 11/30/04 Tue
  • Remember, though, aid to students, whether given on a need-based basis or as an athletic scholarship, is counted toward football expenses. Remember too that state schools like Delaware have lower tuitions, even for out-of-state students. When you see that both Fordham and Delaware spend about the same on football, you have to recall that Delaware is getting more players per dollar spent than Fordham is. Fordham has to spend more per player, meaning it must spend more to land the same amount of players. (NT) -- JoltinJoe, 18:48:41 11/30/04 Tue
    • So the question is, should that keep us from competing at the highest level of Div. 1-AA Football and having a chance to play Army, Navy and some excellent 1-A academic schools like Duke, Wake Forest, Rice, etc. You get what you pay for. It's time to invest in Fordham's future. (NT) -- Rambacker, 22:49:31 11/30/04 Tue
    • Our expenses are very close to villanova as well and they compete just fine. Richmond is not that far off either. We are spending more than northeastern, w&m and jmu. And we are spending more than those schools to play "non-scholarship" football. The reason we are not moving to scholarship football is not b/c it would increase our football expenses, it is b/c it would increase our overall athletic expenses. In other words it is a Title IX issue. (NT) -- JóDete93, 09:27:17 12/01/04 Wed
      • I'm hearing that we may add Women's Lacrosse and Field Hockey next year. If that's the case, that may solve the Title lX problem. (NT) -- Rambacker, 09:39:22 12/01/04 Wed
        • I say this without knowing any of the facts, but if we are looking to add 2 women's sports it is either b/c we need them b/c we are not currently in compliance with Title IX or we are doing it to be set and ready to move to scholarship football. As much as most of us probably hope it is the latter, it unfortunately is most likely the former. (NT) -- JóDete93, 10:12:28 12/01/04 Wed
          • I agree those are two very possible reasons, but it really could be that the university feels we now have the facilities and demand for either of those two sports, and that offering them would make us more competitive with certain other schools who already have them. I look at the lockerroom, fieldturf, lights, and possible visitors stands as being more suggestive of a possible upgrade to scholarship football than the consideration of two additional women's sports (especially given the m-f ratios). (NT) -- DamnRam, 13:06:07 12/01/04 Wed
            • I sort of doubt that we would be adding two sports for the reasons you mention. (more inside) -- JóDete93, 16:04:15 12/01/04 Wed
      • Good point, Dete. We’re currently spending more on football than three (Hofstra, Richmond and Northeastern) of the four private schools in the A-10. With the exception of Hofstra, the cost of a scholarship at the A-10 private schools isn’t that much different from Fordham (see below).
        Cost of a Full Scholarship (tuition + room & board)
        Richmond $40,510
        Fordham $36,448
        Northeastern $35,410
        Villanova $34,500
        Hofstra $25,710
        (more below) (NT) -- ramMan, 10:49:13 12/01/04 Wed
        • Sorry, cost of a full scholarship at Fordham should read $36,448. (NT) -- ramMan, 10:50:48 12/01/04 Wed
          • I always forget that JMU and W&M are public schools. W&M's tuition and fees for out-of-state students are still fairly high though, so unless a good chunk of their players are from VA their costs are still nothing to sneeze at. (NT) -- JóDete93, 11:01:16 12/01/04 Wed
        • The A-10 schools, however, have more full time assistant coaches than Fordham (Villanova 10; Hofstra, Northeastern and Richmond 7; Fordham only 6). (NT) -- ramMan, 10:54:33 12/01/04 Wed
• NEED BASED AID drives me crazy.. it favors low income student athletes..if 2 hs seniors of equal intelligence and playing ability are looked at by FU..low income player more inclined to come..if plyr 1 parents can afford 12,500..FU will pick up other 12,500...but if player 2 parents can afford 0$ ..FU will pay full 25,000k similar to full ride and plyr 2 more likely to accept..it seems more logical for a PL coach to go after low income stdnt athletes..I wish FU would go A10 and full rides period. DAD is FDNY so no silver spoon.. (NT) -- #17, 20:49:13 11/30/04 Tue
  • I agree with you completely. I had to pay a portion of my tuition and I saw really good players and starters paying full tuition while scrubs got free rides, book money, and so on. It really does suck. The need based system is why we lost Mike Kne who started as a freshman on O-line. He transferred to Ohio State and is now on the second team and playing some. Our O-line from 2001 -2004 would have been a lot better with him (NT) -- Prince, 15:47:18 12/02/04 Thu
    • If I’m not mistaken, Mike Kne’s financial aid package was reduced after his freshman year because his family’s financial situation changed, which happens when dad gets a promotion, or a stay-at-home mom gets a job, or a sibling graduates from college, or a parent gets a higher-paying job, or a parent gets a second (i.e., part-time) job, etc. I agree…the need-based system sucks. (NT) -- ramMan, 16:49:40 12/02/04 Thu
• full ride vs need based aid. If a student athlete had to choose between Villanova, Richmond, W and M and FU... they would rarely go to Fordham... sure FU is a good school and are other factors. Realistically if your child had a full scholly offer to one of these schools or had to pay 10K..15K..25K.. or whatever at FU.. as a parent or a student athlete even consider FU..probably not.. A-10 now.. enough of this need based Aid crap.. It is reverse discrimination as well..know a few parents who let their kids go elsewhere (to good schools) on full athletic ride rather than pay FU.. (NT) -- KL, 21:08:08 11/30/04 Tue
  • Not only that, I get the feeling that the PL's rule against athletic scholarships for football is a Title IX dodge, at least for at least some of the member schools. By running football aid through the financial aid department, you can pass the Title IX implications of that aid off through the student body as a whole, without concentrating the impact in the athletic department. The PL allows scholarships in other sports. Why not football? (NT) -- JoltinJoe, 21:41:55 11/30/04 Tue
    • You know it is quite humorous if you think about it. In an effort to skirt a gender equality measure, we are also diminishing opportunities for males from affluent families. We should get special Title IX credit for that one b/c although we are not helping women, we are taking opportunities away from some men and therefore evening the field in a backwards sort of way. (NT) -- JóDete93, 09:31:00 12/01/04 Wed
      • JoDete, are you sure you are not a lawyer? (NT) -- JoltinJoe, 14:53:45 12/01/04 Wed
        • No I am not, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. (NT) -- JóDete93, 15:51:13 12/01/04 Wed
      • That's a bit of a stretch, no? We're hardly denying them the opportunity to come to Fordham. We're denying them a free education, possibly. If you were expanding that argument, you are saying that all football playing schools that don't offer scholarships are denying students from high income families the opportunity to play. I have a feeling Penn and Harvard would argue that. (NT) -- An Old Coach, 09:21:22 12/02/04 Thu
        • Hey coach, it was said in jest. (NT) -- JóDete93, 11:26:15 12/02/04 Thu
          • You mean you really didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express? (NT) -- An Old Coach, 18:20:28 12/02/04 Thu
        • Bottom Line is Fordham should move to scholarship football.. FU spends similar to A-10 schools (when you apply fin. aid)... so why not field a better team , receive better exposure and get a chance to play a 1A each year... Fin. Aid packages makes it more diff. to recruit than straight scholly's.. FU can keep good company by playing some good academic schools OCC and play a 1A each year.. Lets get this done.. A-10 now.. (NT) -- JH89, 11:27:46 12/02/04 Thu

James Madison finished the regular season with a higher rank than Lehigh (#8 vs. #16).
James Madison drew more fans per game this season than Lehigh (12,790/game vs. 9,598/game).
Yet, James Madison is playing its first-round playoff at Lehigh today.
My guess is the Mountain Hawks/Engineers were awarded the home playoff game because they have better facilities (Goodman Stadium).

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• Home field advantage not enough for the Mountain Hawks as they fall to James Madison, 14-13. Lafayette is losing to Delaware, 7-0, in the first quarter. (NT) -- ramMan, 15:27:23 11/27/04 Sat
  • Good 1-AA Playoff matchup on ESPN2 at 6pm tonight: New Hampshire at Georgia Southern(UNH is 7-0 on the road this year, GS is 5-0 on the road) (NT) -- Rambacker, 16:35:33 11/27/04 Sat
    • What...a New England land grant "cow college" on ESPN2?! Oh my! ;-) (NT) -- ramMan, 17:56:57 11/27/04 Sat
  • Final: Delaware 28, Lafayette 14. Both PL teams lose to A-10 teams in the first round of the playoffs. (NT) -- ramMan, 18:11:59 11/27/04 Sat
    • Lafayette fumbled on the Delaware 12 with about 2:30 to go, and Delaware ran it all the way back for the final margin. Good effort by the Pards against the defending champions. (NT) -- JoltinJoe, 21:03:57 11/27/04 Sat
  • All four A-10 teams (Delaware, James Madison, New Hampshire, and William & Mary) won their first-round playoff games today. Half the teams competing in next week’s quarterfinals will be from the A-10. (NT) -- ramMan, 21:15:31 11/27/04 Sat
    • This is what 1-AA scholarship football will do for Fordham. Every year we would have a shot to win the 1-AA title with several nationally telelvised games, including the national championship. In the Patriot League, that will never happen. I guess the real question is, how serious are we about excelling at the 1-AA level? (NT) -- Rambacker, 10:36:41 11/28/04 Sun
      • Absolutely not true. It guarantees nothing. You still have to recruit and coach players and then they have to play. We are on a level field with the PL right now and we are again struggling to be a .500 team. There is no reason to assume this would change with scholarships. It is like saying just because he have a scholarship program in basketball, we can compete for a national championship. PL seems to be representing itself quite nicely. Colgate goes to the final in '03 and two teams make the play-offs in '04. Fordham can compete if we can get our act together. (NT) -- Ramadama, 13:00:49 11/29/04 Mon
        • Incorrect. If a player has to choose between Colgate, Lehigh and Fordham(which is a realistic, ongoing scenario for us now), 9 out of 10 times they go the higher ranked academic school. It's impossible to be consistently successful under that scenario. With full scholarships, we'll get top flight players and student-athletes, can compete with Army, Navy and top 1-A academic schools like Duke, Tulane, etc. and will have a chance to go deep into the 1-AA Playoffs and appear on ESPN. That's national exposure. This is a no-brainer. Let's get it done. (NT) -- Rambacker, 17:07:01 12/02/04 Thu
    • Keep in mind that the best team in 1-AA this year, Harvard (10-0 record and thrashed an A-10 team, Northeastern during the year), is not allowed the compete in the playoffs. Their QB received a Hula Bowl invitation. Their WR turned down a full ride to a Pac-10 team, Oregon St.. Their RB is a transfer from Northwestern. They would have a great chance to win the 1-AA championship because of the caliber of athletes drawn to that school. (NT) -- gordo, 13:10:19 11/28/04 Sun
      • Northeastern was 5-6 overall, 4-4 in the A-10 this season. Not a very good team. I don't think Harvard would make it past the 1st round in the 1-AA playoffs this year, although they do get some very good athletes because they're Harvard. If you get a chance to go to Harvard, you don't pass it up. (NT) -- Rambacker, 16:46:21 11/28/04 Sun
        • I think they would have done very well. I saw them play this year and they were an offensive machine. That QB they had was special. They seem to get a few guys every year who are 1-A level talent because those guys want that Harvard diploma. (NT) -- gordo, 20:08:44 11/28/04 Sun
          • Harvard has always had a couple of 1-A level players for the very reason you mention. But we'll never know how they would have done in the 1-AA playoffs since the Ivy League considers itself above post season play. Another example of the elitism that prevails there and seeps into the wanna-be Ivy League, the Patriot League. (NT) -- Rambacker, 22:00:32 11/28/04 Sun
        • So how many times did you see Harvard play this year? You have no idea what you're talking about . (NT) -- #44, 09:24:10 11/29/04 Mon
          • Harvard would go 0-4 against the 4 A-10 teams that are currently competing in the 1-AA playoffs for the national championship. Who cares about Harvard? This is a Fordham message board. (NT) -- Rambacker, 09:30:44 11/29/04 Mon
            • Apparently you do and are an expert about the Harvard program. Stick to something else you know nothing about, Fordham football. (NT) -- #44, 12:55:35 11/29/04 Mon
              • I couldn't care less about Harvard. Very weak comeback. Maybe next time. (NT) -- Rambacker, 18:36:52 11/29/04 Mon
                • Just remember Harvard once hired Frank. (NT) -- Joe Genius, 01:11:26 11/30/04 Tue

• Re: Season Evaluation -- Midnight RAMbler, 12:43:15 11/21/04 Sun
• Very well said, but I'll take one minor exception with the facilities comment. Our stands are fine for now but we do need visiting stands (even if they're movable and small) because that creates a better fan experience. I think having FieldTurf and lights can only help our team in recruiting, practices and games. I'm assuming the lockerrooms are now adequate for the short term, even if they're still not ideal. (NT) -- DamnRam, 16:17:50 11/21/04 Sun
• When Rams played mistake football Opponents Bears were having semi-field days and full field days. (NT) -- pjd, 12:38:13 12/01/04 Wed
  • In addition The two games when rams played SOME mistake-FREE football Opponents Bears (D-Line, Lb's etc.) were NOT having semi-field or full field days. (NT) -- pjd, 14:05:05 12/01/04 Wed

• I would like to see Foley go after 3 or 4 JC transfers... physically more mature and able to contribute next season.. Im sure we can find a couple JC student athlete ftbl players who can help Fordham.. Lets get it done.. Maybe FU can look at some of the Arizona JC schools Quartaro used in late 90's.. Harris and OHare played well and got a quality education... (NT) -- #8, 14:40:07 11/29/04 Mon
  • Maybe some JC OL transfers are in the works. (NT) -- rambo, 17:51:47 11/29/04 Mon
    • I'm hearing a D1-A Oline transfer is in the mix. (NT) -- ..., 10:09:12 11/30/04 Tue
      • Anybody know where Jarrod Mundy and Matt Stolte ended up? they were last years FU's recruits but never showed to camp... Did a 1A or another school step in late or they gave up ftbl? Also I hope your accurate about a 1A OL transfer.. (NT) -- #53, 11:22:10 11/30/04 Tue
        • Re: Anybody know where Jarrod Mundy and Matt Stolte ended up? they were last years FU's recruits but never showed to camp... Did a 1A or another school step in late or they gave up ftbl? Also I hope your accurate about a 1A OL transfer.. -- ..., 15:16:49 11/30/04 Tue
• Don't forget we also have 2 very good frosh fullbacks who didn't play this year- Ricky Jones and Henry Kirlew. (NT) -- rambo, 12:32:53 11/30/04 Tue
  • That's Kenny Jones, not Ricky. He played in the first game against Rhode Island and received one carry for zero yards. Not a bad blocker and picked up some difficult blitzes. (NT) -- Rammer84, 10:03:26 12/01/04 Wed
    • correct; sorry about that; also very highly rated recruit a year ago was DL Nardone who chose us over Colgate; it seems to me we have a number of young linemen to look to over the next 2 years, Egnoto, Bencivenni and others who have been mentioned previously. (NT) -- rambo, 10:38:05 12/01/04 Wed

• Re: gordo -- suffolk ram, 23:17:46 11/23/04 Tue
• Coffey field and BB field will receive Field Turf, lights and, possibly, temp visitor stands during FB seasons. In addition, new BB bleachers, backstop and dugouts. That's what I heard, we'll see. We'll also see about perimeter fencing and upgrade of concession area. Looking forward to what ever they do. Will be ready for Sept 05 FB. (NT) -- FC, 08:19:54 11/24/04 Wed
• And a new multi purpose score board as well (NT) -- FC, 08:27:42 11/24/04 Wed
  • Im curious where the new scoreboard will be positioned... I hope it will be focused for football rather than dual purpose for baseball.. With future temp. seating on visiting side for ftbl those fans will not be able to see scoreboard well in its current location.. Cant FU give Baseball their own smaller scoreboard in different location.. facing home plate maybe in right field...... Tired of looking like a HS ..with half ass planning... If this is all scheduled to happen.. can some close to situation provide a rendering... (NT) -- TomG, 09:03:40 11/24/04 Wed
    • I hope they get this right, but I expect the worst and it all sounds like band-aids. We'll know in 10 months. (NT) -- Smar Llabtoof, 15:51:00 11/24/04 Wed
      • In the past these types of improvements would be labeled "permanent" and used as a perpetual excuse to not create state of the art faciltiies. Let's hope the Fr. McShane era is different and we ultimately build legit Div. 1 facilities. (NT) -- Rambacker, 17:02:11 11/24/04 Wed
        • Well, it could still happen but we are almost a year and a half into Fr. McShane's tenure. If he's going to do something in athletics, I would hope it is pretty soon. (NT) -- Ramadama, 20:01:57 11/24/04 Wed
          • The long-term strategic plan, which includes athletics, is due to be completed next summer, so we should know what the plans are for this shortly after that. Keep your fingers crossed. (NT) -- Rambacker, 22:47:00 11/24/04 Wed
• The long term plan is to be completed by October 2005. (NT) -- FC, 12:58:14 11/26/04 Fri
  • Re: I think the WFAN advertising is a good idea; and a couple of games with Rutgers, Army or Villanova would also make for a more attractive schedule. (NT) -- Go...'gate, 17:47:19 11/29/04 Mon
    • The problem with playing Rutgers or Army is that with non-scholarship players, we put them in a position to get hurt against that level of competition. Not a good idea for a number of reasons. (NT) -- Rambacker, 20:45:36 11/29/04 Mon

• Congrats to Jonte Coven on being named PL Rookie of the Year. Kudos to the above mentioned Rams named to the First and Second Teams. (NT) -- ramMan, 14:21:24 11/24/04 Wed
  • Nice catch, ramMan. My oversight: Coven wins PL rookie of the year. Thanks. (NT) -- JoltinJoe, 15:56:36 11/24/04 Wed
• Fordham Press Release (NT) -- ramMan, 11:40:02 11/26/04 Fri
• Apologies to Ed Gordon, also named to the Second Team.First-Team All Patriot League (NT) -- JoltinJoe, 11:54:18 11/26/04 Fri
  • Second Team, that is. (NT) -- JoltinJoe, 13:00:00 11/27/04 Sat

• Hey Venter: Check your facts on Lafayette, they hadn't beaten Fordham in 4 straight years and have been towards the bottom of the league until this year. (NT) -- gorams, 12:38:44 11/22/04 Mon
  • True, in fact Lafayette, despite the fact that they own us in head to head competition, has been mediocre more often than not. Thanks for pointing out my typo. Hope the points weren't lost on you, however. (NT) -- Midnight RAMbler, 10:43:20 11/23/04 Tue
• Own us in head to head competition? Maybe they ran a sting of victories on us when we originally jumped back into 1AA. The new fordham football has owned Lafayette. 4 straight wins during Clawson's era and I don't doubt Foley will continue our dominance. (NT) -- gorams, 11:51:03 11/23/04 Tue
  • Hope you're right about Foley and the team continues the trend, but don't forget a couple of our wins over Lafayette -- when we were a League frontrunner and they were a doormat -- weren't real lopsided. Anyone know the exact head-to-head record? I believe it's somewhere in the range of 15-5 Lafayatte. (NT) -- Midnight RAMbler, 12:42:27 11/23/04 Tue
• The point is Lafayette doesn't constantly restock their talent. We beat them 4 straight years, and yes they were a league doormat. (NT) -- gorams, 13:53:43 11/23/04 Tue
  • Again, kudos for spotting my typo, but we still trail the "doormat" 17-5 head-to-head. And you'll recall the point actually was we need to become a consistent League contender. Three years in the hunt out of every 16 doesn't get anyone excited, nor does it justify discussions of elevating our level competition. Let's become a perennial (sp?) Patriot League power, win a game or two in the Playoffs and be pleased with who we are. (NT) -- Last Word, 19:21:00 11/23/04 Tue
• Well Fordham is also number 17 or whatever on all time wins, does that mean we're a top caliber program? A lot happens in the past that doesn't relate to the current situation. We had a down year this year, which isn't that bad considering we were 5-6 and consider it a very disappointing year. We need to build on our expectations of winning. (NT) -- gorams, 20:07:48 11/23/04 Tue
  • I agree with all of your points. What is the "all time wins" list you're referring to? (NT) -- Midnight RAMbler, 16:29:57 11/24/04 Wed
    • NCAA all-time wins. At the start of the season, Fordham was #14 with 715 wins. (NT) -- ramMan, 18:12:12 11/24/04 Wed
      • All time wins are recorded in the NCAA Record book. As ramMan notes, Fordham was 14th at the start of this season. Fordham's fifth among I-AA teams in all-time wins. The current NCAA Record book is still on sale. Older versions are on line. The most recent on line is 2002. Click the first link and scroll down to page 150, or the 40th page of that excerpt, for the all time Division I-AA win leaders. The second link will take you to the I-A portion of the record book, where all-time record start on page 63 of the book. Combing the two, you can see that Fordham is 14th in all time wins. -- JoltinJoe, 21:13:18 11/24/04 Wed
      • All time wins are recorded in the NCAA Record book. As ramMan notes, Fordham was 14th at the start of this season. Fordham's fifth among I-AA teams in all-time wins. The current NCAA Record book is still on sale. Older versions are on line. The most recent on line is 2002. Click the first link and scroll down to page 150, or the 40th page of that excerpt, for the all time Division I-AA win leaders. The second link will take you to the I-A portion of the record book, where all-time record start on page 63 of the book. Combing the two, you can see that Fordham is 14th in all time wins. -- JoltinJoe, 21:14:19 11/24/04 Wed
        • Click Here for 2002 NCAA Record Book I-AA, and go to page 150 (NT) -- JoltinJoe, 21:16:05 11/24/04 Wed
        • Click Here for 2002 NCAA Record Book, Division I (NT) -- JoltinJoe, 21:17:10 11/24/04 Wed
        • Sorry, the 2004 NCAA Record Book is on-line. Click Here for 2004 Record Book ans Scroll to Page 179 (NT) -- JoltinJoe, 08:50:55 11/25/04 Thu

• it took me a while to figure it out.... but I I havent seen Tony in years... A great heart.. (NT) -- TEcentral, 16:31:50 11/23/04 Tue
• Shark is in California last I heard Matt (NT) -- ROWAN, 09:19:13 11/24/04 Wed
• Bruce (NT) -- Smar Llabtoof, 15:47:57 11/24/04 Wed
• Ahhh...the Bruce story was classic Shark.... (NT) -- ROWAN, 19:47:53 11/24/04 Wed

• This exact topic was discussed earlier, we definitely need bigger lineman. I know bigger doesn't mean better, but bigger will win more games, especially in the long run. (NT) -- explayer, 20:03:11 11/23/04 Tue
  • Speaking of long runs, I think we need a big featured back like the ones Brown and Lafayette had. It seems like the top PL teams always have a back like that and huge offensive and defensive lines. (NT) -- Rambacker, 07:39:20 11/24/04 Wed
• Can FU move K Strahle to FB... he is 5'11 255 should be a FB not OL... . cant move 285 pound DT's consistently... Lehigh, Lafayette ,A-10 OL's avg close to 6'4 300 pounds. FU is nowhere close.. I know JC transfer student athletes are not popular in PL...and FU .. but I think FU could use a few... A few years back FU got 2 players who helped program.. an OLB from Arizona and a QB from California (I think) .. OLB was 6'5 and played with C Mosley.. QB was O'Hare.... . Cant hurt to bring in 3 or 4 JC tranfers....FU could use the help! (NT) -- #8, 08:13:52 11/24/04 Wed
  • The OLB was Matt Harris (6'5, 228); the QB, Steve O'Hare. Both were from AZ (Tempe and Scottsdale, respectively). (NT) -- ramMan, 09:32:25 11/24/04 Wed

• Give the kid a break. He's a redshirt freshman.... you should expect him to make some mistakes, but he also showed some great play potential. You need to realize that Carney and Eakin didn't even get on the field until their senior and junior years... they would likely have been similar to Daniels at that stage or worse. QB is not our problem... our O-Line was this year. (NT) -- ..., 07:13:06 11/22/04 Mon
  • Well if you think about the last quaterback to start as a freshman, Daniels did okay because Michael Mucci was a complete disaster as a freshman. (NT) -- Daniels for President, 20:56:15 11/22/04 Mon
    • Mucci was a true freshman ..thrown into the fire with a Bad OL..... Daniels 2nd yr in program and although physically talented ..cost FU a few games because of poor mistakes... same bad decisions week in /out never learning to control the game.. Throw ball away, take a sack if necessary ... HIS fumbles and Ints hurt FU.. needs to understand game management... the Colgate loss was painful ..as the fumble in 2 nd qtr.. and int to start 3 rd gave an easy TD away... needs spend more time on mental aspect....maybe Coach Foley's brother Glenn can help in offseason.. (NT) -- #77, 11:46:52 11/23/04 Tue
      • Re: Mucci was a true freshman ..thrown into the fire with a Bad OL..... Daniels 2nd yr in program and although physically talented ..cost FU a few games because of poor mistakes... same bad decisions week in /out never learning to control the game.. Throw ball away, take a sack if necessary ... HIS fumbles and Ints hurt FU.. needs to understand game management... the Colgate loss was painful ..as the fumble in 2 nd qtr.. and int to start 3 rd gave an easy TD away... needs spend more time on mental aspect....maybe Coach Foley's brother Glenn can help in offseason.. (NT) -- #77, 11:47:57 11/23/04 Tue
      • I agree with what you are saying THIS year.... but this was expected. I repeat.... Daniels was a FRESHMAN with a BAD O-Line in front of him. He was bound to make mistakes with that combo. O-Line will be better next season, we lose Amatuzzo and one tackle. Daniels will improve 10-fold and be an all-conference QB next season... watch. (NT) -- ..., 15:26:43 11/23/04 Tue

• You are entirely off base and out of line. We lost 2 games by a point and another in OT. He did not do a bad job. How did he get a free lunch? Also, who anointed you in charge to decide he does not get 4 years and should be "closely scrutinized"? Also, the program is NOT well funded. Our alumni donation penetration is next to pathetic. We have the poorest facilities in the league. The fact that we were in position to have a winning record is a major accomplishment. If you are going to run your mouth off, back it up with specifics. Otherwise, we do not need anymore armchair QBs (NT) -- ROWAN, 16:23:06 11/20/04 Sat
  • Joe, I agree with much of what you say except the part about alumni "donation penetration" being pathetic. We raised half a million dollars in the year ended June 30, 2004. The University spent as much as Lehigh and Colgate and perhaps 50% more than either Holy Cross or Georgetown. Facilites are old but this off season a new turf will be installed on Coffey and lights at no insignificant cost. We need more, of course but there is much more alumni and University support than you think. (NT) -- R. Marrin, 23:45:49 11/20/04 Sat
    • Fordham outspent Georgetown 3 to 1 in FY 2004. The other PL schools outspend Georgetown at least 2 to 1. I don't think people realize how much of a competitive disadvantage that is placing Georgetown on a week to week basis.** (NT) -- DFW HOYA, 13:27:35 11/21/04 Sun
      • Of course we realize that, we lived through it here, remember? G'town is following in our footsteps by underfunding the program and hoping to win on the cheap. All 3 Jesuits schools bringing up the rear in the PL this year, and in the case of Gtown and HC, it is a trend...why? (NT) -- Maroon, 21:27:50 11/21/04 Sun
  • Re: You are entirely off base and out of line. We lost 2 games by a point and another in OT. He did not do a bad job. How did he get a free lunch? Also, who anointed you in charge to decide he does not get 4 years and should be "closely scrutinized"? Also, the program is NOT well funded. Our alumni donation penetration is next to pathetic. We have the poorest facilities in the league. The fact that we were in position to have a winning record is a major accomplishment. If you are going to run your mouth off, back it up with specifics. Otherwise, we do not need anymore armchair QBs -- BRUCE, 15:47:36 11/22/04 Mon
• When you lose the core of the offense, it 's hard to go into the season with high expectations. From the four games I saw, we played pretty much to the level of our talent. I don't think the coach cost us any games with on the field decisions. Team preparation was probably ok. It is very hard to tell if you don't see practice. All in all, I think the Coach did a good job. The PL is better than many give it credit for. On funding, everything I've read saysour budget is at or above everyone elses. Facilities are another matter but how do you explain 3 good seasons on the same field? (NT) -- An Old Coach, 16:42:34 11/20/04 Sat
• Rich, we are making great progress on raising money and facilities. The amount of $$ raised is great, but it is from a narrow group of folks. When I heard how many people donated above $100 I was shocked. We need more people gifting to make a difference instead of blaming the coach, bad calls, facilities, etc. (NT) -- ROWAN, 11:26:28 11/21/04 Sun
  • I better understand now what you mean by "alumni penetration". And I thought it was something you guys in Philadelphia say. Yes, we definitely should try to attract donors of any amounts, get more fans back to the campus and into the stands and add to the number of supporters of football at Fordham. The Bill Walshes and other generous souls got us going in the right direction but we must sustain, then expand, upon it ourselves. WE CANNOT BE COMPLACENT AND SLIDE BACK (NT) -- R. Marrin, 20:03:15 11/21/04 Sun
  • We need new blood, new, younger football alums to get involved. (NT) -- Maroon, 21:31:19 11/21/04 Sun
    • Amen! We cannot accomplish our aims without more help, especially from the younger alumni. The Golf outing , annual dinner (April 29); Reunion Weekend (next year, the teams of the 1980s to be featured) , season ticket sales, fund raising, career help for undergrads and seniors, tailgating, new projects (such as a golf outing for younger alumni and outings wiht regional alumni clubs) are among our needs (NT) -- R. Marrin, 10:31:37 11/22/04 Mon
• I agree with Joe and Rich, and feel as though 5-6 (my prediction in August) was in-line with reasonable expectations. Clearly, this team had its chances to win 9 games...but that's the way it goes. Foley did a good job and he acknowledged on FUV yesterday how that he was disappointed as we did not beat one good football team this year and squandered far too many opportunities. Importantly, we need to continue to fund the program and push for facility upgrades if we ever hope to become a consistent 7-8-9 win team. (NT) -- Smar Llabtoof, 13:32:16 11/21/04 Sun
• all things considered i'm expecting the majority of players to stay and a solid incoming recruiting class. Otherwise might be reason for action. (NT) -- pjd, 17:09:04 11/21/04 Sun