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Subject: Re: The CAA/A-10 will welcome us. Our NY location, academic standing & quality program help. We'll be in the driver's seat. What's critical is where football nets out in our internal/external study when it's done in the Fall. Everything will fall from that, including the future of Ram football. With the major expansion of the university at Lincoln Center, new Marymount campus, Science Center, Campus Center, Recreation facility, to me it makes sense to step up to scholarship football. I don't think we'll have an answer until '06 on this, given the timing of the release of the study. Author: JCC [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 21:49:37 03/02/05 Wed In reply to: Rambacker 's message, "The CAA/A-10 will welcome us. Our NY location, academic standing & quality program help. We'll be in the driver's seat. What's critical is where football nets out in our internal/external study when it's done in the Fall. Everything will fall from that, including the future of Ram football. With the major expansion of the university at Lincoln Center, new Marymount campus, Science Center, Campus Center, Recreation facility, to me it makes sense to step up to scholarship football. I don't think we'll have an answer until '06 on this, given the timing of the release of the study." on 17:03:12 03/02/05 Wed While I wish Rambacker's scenarios could come true, I'm skeptical. His point (that all the proposed expansion of the University could lead to an upgrading of football as well) seems a questionable one. I think the opposite is more likely: that the tremendous cost and effort these proposals entail will give an ambivalent new administration one more excuse to defer any plans for raising our profile in football. The history of Fordham athletics is one of "crying poverty," making excuses, and squandering opportunities. While I hope the Strategic Plan recognizes the value of upgrading football (and basketball too), I'm not going to be holding my breath awaiting its release. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date If you read the article on the Lincoln Center expansion, it says that Fordham's enrollment will increase dramatically in the future. This will increase our operating budget and as our alumni base increases, so will contributions. This would enable us to support Div. 1-A football if we want. I'm not saying it will happen - just saying there may be more justification for it in the future given our increased stature, need to recruit nationally, etc. (NT) Rambacker 22:04:09 03/02/05 Wed I hope you're right, but I'm not so sure. First of all, much of the additional space at LC will be used by grad and law students. People in grad programs in education and social service aren't generally big contributors, nor do they take much interest in Fordham sports. While Fordham Law grads are more generous contributors, they tend to focus donations on the Law School, unless they also did their undergrad work at FU. As for the LC undergrads, many of them are hip, artsy, urban types who aren't much interested in sports, or anything else at Rose Hill. More.... (NT) -- Ram'69, 10:50:10 03/03/05 Thu ....While I'm convinced that better football (& basketball) WOULD dramatically expand applicant pools to our undergraduate programs at Rose Hill, I'm less certain that they would have the same effect at LC. Given the University's modest financial resources--and considering the new administration's tremendous interest in upgrading Lincoln Center--I've got the feeling that sports and other programs at Rose Hill inevitably will command less attention. Rose Hill has always been the University's flagship campus, and I hope that I'm wrong about some of these matters. (NT) -- Ram'69, 11:04:51 03/03/05 Thu Frankly, I believe that the administration needs to make the completion ot the Rose Hill campus a priority, at least as high a one as the Lincoln Center expansion. It is our flagship campus, but has never been completed. Rose Hill is the common core of the university - we need a new campus center, science center, combined recreation complex/convocations center, football stadium, probably another dorm, Collins Hall refurbishment, etc. There's a lot to be done to finish our core campus. (NT) -- Rambacker, 15:55:47 03/03/05 Thu It's time to launch a campaign, similar to what has happend at Richmond over the past week, to contact the Admin and the BOT and tell them how we think Fordham should proceed. (NT) -- bfg, 17:10:13 03/03/05 Thu I couldn't agree more. If we don't, we could end up with an athletic program and a Rose Hill campus that does not match our insititutional goals. (NT) -- Rambacker, 22:04:49 03/03/05 Thu