Gee prince with what he had to work with? A national telesvision contract, top 10 facilities, the richest tradition in sports next to the yankees, a huge contract and funding in the top 3. get a freakin' clue. -- FORDHAM RAMS FOOTBALL FORUM

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Subject: Gee prince with what he had to work with? A national telesvision contract, top 10 facilities, the richest tradition in sports next to the yankees, a huge contract and funding in the top 3. get a freakin' clue.

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Date Posted: 18:08:53 12/02/04 Thu
In reply to: Prince 's message, "Even though Notre dame has not done well. Willingham definitely helped the program. The bottom line is top recruits don't want to go to a small catholic university anymore. Too many restrictions and to be honest most top high school athletes don't care about how good the education is. They want to go to the NFL. I believe he did well with what he had to work with" on 15:42:25 12/02/04 Thu

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Notre Dame was ranked 13th 18th and 5th the past 3 years in recruiting. Yeah, I guess they can not get anybody to go there Prince. (NT) Fax 18:22:04 12/02/04 Thu

Prince speaks sense. Many high school seniors are not so sophisticated as you make them out. They want to be pros. That is what motivated them not national tv contract, top 10 facilities. a top traditoon , a huge contract (whatever that means) and funding in the top 3. Do you hin they talk among themselves about those things and the courses they want to take? (NT) -- Prince is right, 20:18:49 12/02/04 Thu

Willingham was getting paid huge money. He was given very specific expectations that he himself understood and acknowledged. Notre Dame ahs recruited well, including a 5th ranked class in 2003. Prince speaks utter gibberish , absolutely no facts or data to backup Prince's comments. Not shocking. (NT) -- Toot, 20:30:50 12/02/04 Thu

What are you talkin about? I read a story in which ND officials that were interviewed said the exact same things I said when it comes to getting the best players. Check your own facts. And for the record gibberish can't be understood. Its not shocking to me for you to say something so stupid. (NT) -- Prince, 22:41:08 12/14/04 Tue

Prince's take on ND and College sports in general is on the money. Kids want to go to the program where they think they have the best shot to go pro. Many of them are blinded to what college is supposed to be about. ND used to be one of the schools cornering the market on the best prospects. Willingham did ok under the circumstances. The good fathers at ND have their heads in the clouds if they think they can contend for championships every year with the type of kids they've been getting. I'll bet anything they are going to loosen up on who they bring in. You can't win any other way. (NT) -- An Old Coach, 08:41:13 12/03/04 Fri

Class rankings mean nothing. FSU has had a top 5 recruiting class for the last few years and tell me how many National Championships they have (NT) -- Prince, 22:32:30 12/14/04 Tue

All that stuff is great, but it doesn't mean you are going to win. If you look at the best players on their team, they really aren't that great. (NT) Prince 22:35:56 12/14/04 Tue