• Sorry, JohnG92, for being the skeptic but I gotta see it to believe it! What is Frank waiting for? Oh, now I get it. He's waiting for Army to turn its program into a winning one. Then Army will be on our schedule. DUH, what was I thinking? (NT) -- Ram It '66, 22:39:24 12/09/04 Thu
• I find your post questionable. We heard several years ago that we would be playing Yale in 2005 and 2006 and that never happened. Why would Army play us when we don't have a stadium to host them for a return home game? And wanting to play Harvard is very different than seeing them on the schedule. The fact remains that the schedule for the next 4 seasons is incredibly unattractive for alums, students and recruits. Some heads should roll. (NT) -- Rambacker, 23:10:07 12/09/04 Thu
  • Not sure it's realistic to expect any return games from any I-A team, especially without at least a 15K stadium and I would say even with one. Army didn't give HC a return game and they certainly have the capacity. Not sure yet that heads should roll but pointed questions should be asked. (NT) -- DamnRam, 08:39:15 12/10/04 Fri
    • If Army is going to play a 1AA school, I can't see them playing on the road. They played Yale, Colgate and Holy Cross in the '90's but I think it was always at home. Maybe someone in the administration will take notice of how bad the schedule is and make some changes. Games get changed all the time. I'm sure for $10K and two years notice Marist and Duquesne would take the check and find a new opponent (NT) -- An Old Coach, 10:29:37 12/10/04 Fri
      • You want me to change some of these games? No way. I spent alot of time putting these schedules together and I'm ot going back and redoing my work. (NT) -- FXMcL, 12:48:27 12/10/04 Fri
  • I find your post confusing. Do you think I'm lying, or being lied to? (NT) -- JohnG92, 20:43:15 12/10/04 Fri
    • I believe you are being misled and frankly, used. Dave Clawson did not want, nor did he plan to have, the schedule that's been released. I would suggest that you consider the source of your information. Who did you talk to? (NT) -- Rambacker, 22:01:40 12/10/04 Fri
      • Without directly getting that from Dave I'm not sure how you can make that statement. When he was here I spoke to him on several occasions and recruiting and getting enough wins was always at the top of his agenda, as it should have been. As to who I spoke to, I wouldn't want to say unless that person approved. I do know that Fordham has been actively trying to schedule Army, and that Coach Foley wants Harvard. It doesn't seem to me that anyone is content playing only mid major OOC games. (NT) -- JohnG92, 09:21:59 12/11/04 Sat
        • Dave Clawson wanted to upgrade the schedule, not downgrade it. The new schedule is not his doing. (NT) -- Rambacker, 12:13:58 12/11/04 Sat
          • There's a post from Prince that references a conversation they had w/Clawson where he defended the logic of playing a patsy OOC schedule. Are you saying that Clawson's opinion changed once the program was better established and he thought we could now handle better teams or that Prince got it wrong? FWIW, I remember Dave stating the preference for weaker OOC opponents at one of the Gridiron Club meetings but that was before our PL title. (NT) -- PA Ram, 10:22:48 03/04/05 Fri
    • Coffey's 7,000 seat capacity is not limiting Fordham's ability to schedule Army (or Harvard). In fact, Army writes $75,000 checks to keep its few 1-AA opponents from whining all the way to Michie for what Army hopes will be Christians vs. Lions entertainment for its fans. Army even resisted its home and home series with UConn --- a cash cow for both schools. (NT) -- Ramses, 16:35:59 03/02/05 Wed
• I would be surprised if Dave Clawson really wanted that weak a schedule that far into his tenure. Did he really expect the program to still be at the point that he could not schedule a little tougher? I always knew Dave to have very lofty goals and for him to schedule down like that would go against the type of person I feel he is. Obviously I may be wrong on that, but that is just the way I read him. (NT) -- JóDete93, 20:49:18 12/10/04 Fri
  • I would concur. I spoke to him about two years ago, right after the playoff year and he said he was working to add villanova and hofstra but wasn't getting much help. I don't know if he meant from those schools or internally but he thought those games woud make sense. (NT) -- An Old Coach, 07:49:10 12/11/04 Sat
  • I was told that Dave had a large degree of control over who he wanted on the schedule. It is possible one of these mid major games may have been a late addition. I think we all agree that these games don't excite us. Based on some of the comments though, I don't think anyone intentionally scheduled down to undercut the program's growth. Why would anybody do that? BTW, hope you're getting some sleep at night JoDete! (NT) -- JohnG92, 09:13:55 12/11/04 Sat
  • Add the inability to schedule quality OOC opponents as another reason for Clawson's departure, and let's be realistic Dave never thought he'd still be at FU for the 2005-2008 seasons. He had a 5-year plan and he executed well. I agree JohnG92, nothing was done intentionally to undercut the program, but lack of vision and poor AD management have weakened FU's position comparatively. (NT) -- Smar Llabtoof, 13:38:23 12/12/04 Sun
    • We used to have OOC games with Villanova, Hofstra, Harvard, Penn, and Princeton. Hofstra-Fordham used to be a pretty good rivalry. I'd like to see them back on the schedule. (NT) -- JohnG92, 20:18:45 12/12/04 Sun
      • Why play competitive programs likely to attract decent crowds when you can play the Marists, Duquesnes, and Cupcake Colleges of the world? (NT) -- Cynic, 13:42:01 12/13/04 Mon
• Re: Scheduling -- football guy, 20:46:25 03/02/05 Wed
• Thanks for the info, JG. The only thing that's tough is that alot of what's listed falls into the category of good intentions v. something already in the works. I hope your Army comment is one thing that is actually in the works, though. What about Navy? Someone said we screwed them over 10 years ago (see thread below). Anyone here know any details behind that? Thanks again, JG (NT) -- PA Ram, 20:49:21 03/02/05 Wed

• Re: If true, great news for the PL. (NT) -- Go...'gate, 08:23:14 03/02/05 Wed
• I have trouble seeing Richmond leaving and not being in same conference as W&M, their oldest rival. It might work if they moved together. Throw in 'Nova and we have one heck of a I-AA football conference. (NT) -- bfg, 08:56:39 03/02/05 Wed
  • Richmond already severed ties with W&M in all other sports when it jumped to the A-10 from the CAA. I agree that football may be different. On the other hand, from what I hear about the football situation at Richmond, the administration has a lukewarm committment to the sport. The PL may be a good fit, because the school does not seem committed to competing at the level necessary to field a consistent A-10/CAA program. (NT) -- JoltinJoe, 10:30:31 03/02/05 Wed
    • Also, if Richmond joins the PL beginning in 2007, we get to knock off the schedule one of those "mid major" games. (NT) -- JoltinJoe, 10:43:36 03/02/05 Wed
    • Agree about most sports, Joe, but I think the UR/W&M game is among the oldest football rivalries in the country. I looked at the UR message board and they don't want to give that up. They may wind up joining the PL, but their fans aren't happy about it. (NT) -- bfg, 10:43:46 03/02/05 Wed
      • If they move to the PL, I assume they could keep scheduling the game as an OOC game. (NT) -- DebataRam, 10:56:05 03/02/05 Wed
        • Yes, but their schedule starts to get tough logistically. They see their big rivals as W&M, JMU, 'Nova and Delaware. They also play a I-A game. It becomes tough to keep all of those games on a PL schedule. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see them in the PL and I think they may well make the move. I'm just try ing to look at the situation as they see it. (NT) -- bfg, 11:07:29 03/02/05 Wed
      • Yes, that's why I said football may be different. (NT) -- JoltinJoe, 11:08:37 03/02/05 Wed
• Enclosed find the URL for a different artcile explaining rationale for Richmonds decision. -- DebataRam, 08:57:26 03/02/05 Wed
• I feel bad for Clawson. He left on us on good terms for a scholarship program and now has to deal with this. From our standpoint, though, it would be great to see them join us ... particularly if they could influence another strong academic institution or two to join them (c'mon Villanova!). (NT) -- PA Ram, 10:59:09 03/02/05 Wed
• Dave Clawson must be very unhappy here. He believed he was taking a step up toward his goal of coaching a major Div. 1-A program. If they make the move, we can expect him to move along again sooner than later. (NT) -- Rambacker, 12:18:50 03/02/05 Wed
  • I spoke with Dave within the last two weeks but before this speculation. He didn't seem unhappy to me and I would expect that he will honor whatever committment he has with Richmond. (NT) -- R. Marrin, 13:03:01 03/02/05 Wed
    • Re: Any thoughts on whether Fordham will be more inclined to stay put in PL FB if Richmond joins the conference in FB? (NT) -- Go...'gate, 13:05:52 03/02/05 Wed
    • The question here is did Richmond honor their commitment to him? Surely he would not have left Fordham for another non-scholarship program. They changed the rules on him - I expect him to move on if this happens. No one would blame him, if Richmond moves to the PL he will have had the rug pulled out from under him there. (NT) -- Rambacker, 13:15:55 03/02/05 Wed
• Very odd indeed. Presumably the UR administration was less than candid with Coach C in the pre-hire discussions. Perhaps an example of the best action being no action. Hey hindsight is 20/20. Also, in terms of honoring commitment, wasn't Coach commited to FU for additional years? (NT) -- Jimbo65, 13:45:28 03/02/05 Wed
  • Yes, he was. But Clawson requested permission to negotiate with Richmond, and permission was granted. Clawson didn't renege on a deal. He was given permission to pursue the opening. (NT) -- JoltinJoe, 13:56:50 03/02/05 Wed
    • Re: Let's face it, respected collegaues; this has opened the door for Fordham to make the step up in football if they so choose. Rambacker, your sources have any thoughts on an FU cross-over into CAA FB in '07? (NT) -- Go...'gate, 14:51:13 03/02/05 Wed
      • as much as I'd prefer to play scholarship football, I'm not holding my breath. Fr. McShance has said on more than 1 occassion that we're not upgrading football. (NT) -- bfg, 16:01:52 03/02/05 Wed
      • The CAA/A-10 will welcome us. Our NY location, academic standing & quality program help. We'll be in the driver's seat. What's critical is where football nets out in our internal/external study when it's done in the Fall. Everything will fall from that, including the future of Ram football. With the major expansion of the university at Lincoln Center, new Marymount campus, Science Center, Campus Center, Recreation facility, to me it makes sense to step up to scholarship football. I don't think we'll have an answer until '06 on this, given the timing of the release of the study. (NT) -- Rambacker, 17:03:12 03/02/05 Wed
        • For those alums and students that would like to see us join the new CAA league, I suggest that you makes those opinions known to Fr. McShane and the Board. (NT) -- Rambacker, 17:11:24 03/02/05 Wed
        • Maybe, but Hofstra may still have a voice in the discussion as a full CAA member. Can't see the Dutchmen rooting for another New York school in the mix.** (NT) -- DFW HOYA, 19:23:56 03/02/05 Wed
          • Hofstra doesn't have much juice with the league. Plus Fordham will better deliver the NY market. (NT) -- Rambacker, 22:25:37 03/02/05 Wed
        • Who the hell are you, Rambacker, to speak so dispositively on every issue? You pretend to be in the know, far above us poor alumni but are you are a fake? . You have been asked before. Who are you. If not a name, then a year of graduation (if you are alumnus) -- anything that gives you credibility. Otherwise, I join the other posters who you see you as a nut with a "mission" of being big time in everything except academics. (NT) -- not convinced, 20:07:32 03/02/05 Wed
          • "not convinced"? Your post becomes instantly questionable based on the moniker alone. But more precisely, it's clear that you don't read my posts carefully. I have always espoused high academic standards for Fordham and always will. You sound like one of those fossils that believe Fordham cannot maintain high academic standards and also have a winning, national athletic program. Your type of thinking is passe - Fordham is moving toward a future of success at the highest level academically and athletically. You can watch while we do it, if you choose. Best of luck living in the 50's. (NT) -- Rambacker, 22:10:42 03/02/05 Wed
        • Re: The CAA/A-10 will welcome us. Our NY location, academic standing & quality program help. We'll be in the driver's seat. What's critical is where football nets out in our internal/external study when it's done in the Fall. Everything will fall from that, including the future of Ram football. With the major expansion of the university at Lincoln Center, new Marymount campus, Science Center, Campus Center, Recreation facility, to me it makes sense to step up to scholarship football. I don't think we'll have an answer until '06 on this, given the timing of the release of the study. -- JCC, 21:49:37 03/02/05 Wed
          • If you read the article on the Lincoln Center expansion, it says that Fordham's enrollment will increase dramatically in the future. This will increase our operating budget and as our alumni base increases, so will contributions. This would enable us to support Div. 1-A football if we want. I'm not saying it will happen - just saying there may be more justification for it in the future given our increased stature, need to recruit nationally, etc. (NT) -- Rambacker, 22:04:09 03/02/05 Wed
            • I hope you're right, but I'm not so sure. First of all, much of the additional space at LC will be used by grad and law students. People in grad programs in education and social service aren't generally big contributors, nor do they take much interest in Fordham sports. While Fordham Law grads are more generous contributors, they tend to focus donations on the Law School, unless they also did their undergrad work at FU. As for the LC undergrads, many of them are hip, artsy, urban types who aren't much interested in sports, or anything else at Rose Hill. More.... (NT) -- Ram'69, 10:50:10 03/03/05 Thu
            • ....While I'm convinced that better football (& basketball) WOULD dramatically expand applicant pools to our undergraduate programs at Rose Hill, I'm less certain that they would have the same effect at LC. Given the University's modest financial resources--and considering the new administration's tremendous interest in upgrading Lincoln Center--I've got the feeling that sports and other programs at Rose Hill inevitably will command less attention. Rose Hill has always been the University's flagship campus, and I hope that I'm wrong about some of these matters. (NT) -- Ram'69, 11:04:51 03/03/05 Thu
              • Frankly, I believe that the administration needs to make the completion ot the Rose Hill campus a priority, at least as high a one as the Lincoln Center expansion. It is our flagship campus, but has never been completed. Rose Hill is the common core of the university - we need a new campus center, science center, combined recreation complex/convocations center, football stadium, probably another dorm, Collins Hall refurbishment, etc. There's a lot to be done to finish our core campus. (NT) -- Rambacker, 15:55:47 03/03/05 Thu
                • It's time to launch a campaign, similar to what has happend at Richmond over the past week, to contact the Admin and the BOT and tell them how we think Fordham should proceed. (NT) -- bfg, 17:10:13 03/03/05 Thu
                  • I couldn't agree more. If we don't, we could end up with an athletic program and a Rose Hill campus that does not match our insititutional goals. (NT) -- Rambacker, 22:04:49 03/03/05 Thu

• Full copy of article inside here ... -- PA Ram, 15:38:18 03/03/05 Thu

• I believe that ruined Richmond's season that year didn't it? (NT) -- CKRAM98, 09:34:45 03/03/05 Thu
• Hopefully, we can ruin some future seasons as well. (NT) -- Jimbo65, 10:25:00 03/03/05 Thu

• "The league would welcome Fordham with open arms" -- according to who? (NT) -- bfg, 15:09:36 03/01/05 Tue
  • According to me. And the statement is made based on sources that are as solid as can be. (NT) -- Rambacker, 16:24:02 03/01/05 Tue
    • what I meant to ask was whether the statement was opinion or it was reported elsewhere in the press. (NT) -- bfg, 16:31:48 03/01/05 Tue
      • The statement was made based on opinion, but with substantial foundation from sources within the decision-making process. (NT) -- Rambacker, 20:12:49 03/01/05 Tue
        • Rambacker has endless sources and they are all legit. He is a tool (NT) -- backerram, 22:49:58 03/01/05 Tue
        • Pretty strongly worded for an 'opinion.' What requirements would the A-10 have of us if they accept us then? Stadium upgrade? What else? (NT) -- Feeevah, 12:32:38 03/02/05 Wed
          • Don't know the answer to that. Our football budget is already at the A-10/CAA level. We're well-positioned for the move. (NT) -- Rambacker, 17:38:34 03/02/05 Wed
            • Didn't know that our budget was already on par w/other A-10 schools. However, from a facilities standpoint it would clearly take a huge effort to get us on par with most PL schools, let alone the A-10, no? (NT) -- PA Ram, 20:21:57 03/02/05 Wed
              • We need to build a nice football stadium and convocations center no matter what league we're in. It's just time to do that. If Northeastern can play scholarship 1-AA football, then we can. Have you seen their "stadium"? (NT) -- Rambacker, 22:14:51 03/02/05 Wed
• There's an interesting discussion going on about this at the "Any Given Sunday" I-AA board (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/cgi-bin/board/cutecast.pl?session=Y9A8ZwmtveqK4NBcmmFOQfU6Gb&forum=4&thread=9062). The interesting part is the discussion of whether or not some schools will splinter off and try to form their own league. How does a Catholic league with FU, Villanova, Georgetown & Holy Cross, for starters, sound? (NT) -- PA Ram, 15:21:40 03/01/05 Tue
• Just wondering if the A-10 is the strongest 1AA conference out there. Isn't the Big Sky w/ Montana and those schools usually competitive on a national scale. How about the southern conferences, what conference has the most championships as of late? (NT) -- FU '04, 15:25:44 03/01/05 Tue
  • The A-10 Football Conference ha swon 3 national championships in the last 10 years. (NT) -- Rambacker, 15:45:15 03/01/05 Tue
    • The A-10 also had 4 teams in the national quarter-finals last year, including the national champion the last two consecutive years... easily the top D1-AA football conference in the country. A team that didn't even MAKE the NCAA play-offs last year beat an SEC school (Maine over Mississippi State) last season. (NT) -- Guy, 20:34:26 03/01/05 Tue
• How does this jibe with the post above regarding Richmond and the PL? (NT) -- Jimbo CBA'72, 10:45:52 03/02/05 Wed
  • Richmond is the only one not to commit yet, they have been given to Friday to make a decision. (NT) -- DebataRam, 10:58:05 03/02/05 Wed
• Here's a link to an article that states the A-10's commissioner said "Bruno said she won’t pursue creating a new A-10 with basketball members like Fordham moving their football teams to the conference" ... doesn't sound to me like they're "welcoming us with open arms"! (http://www.dnronline.com/archives%202005/03-01-05/sports-story3.asp) -- PA Ram, 21:02:08 03/02/05 Wed
  • Linda Bruno will have nothing to do with running the CAA Football Conference, which will be taking in the A-10 football schools. In fact, the statement means that the door is open for Fordham to be in whatever league they want. And the "new" CAA, which will be quite a league, will accept us if we want to join. (NT) -- Rambacker, 22:18:34 03/02/05 Wed

• What exactly do these numbers mean? (NT) -- CKRAM98, 17:06:26 03/01/05 Tue
  • Explanation from ncaa.org inside - in a nutshell, consider them an RPI for academics where 1000 is a perfect score. (from article) Simply put: (1) The APR is the real-time snapshot of every team's academic performance at a given time; (2) an APR score of 925 is what teams must meet to avoid contemporaneous penalties; and (3) teams below 925 will not be able to replace for one year the grants-in-aid of players who left as academic casualties during the previous academic year. -- PA Ram, 18:11:34 03/01/05 Tue
  • There's a thread below about players who are not coming back that mentions Tristan Martin as a GPA casualty. First, if we were overall below 925, we wouldn't be able to replace him and would feel the pinch by his poor academic performance. Second, actions like that help to drag down our overall numbers and reinforce the importance of not only recruiting great athletes, but also good people/students. Plus, our overall #'s are good in comparison with most schools but it would certainly be nice to not see us near the bottom of the PL rankings. Just my .02. (NT) -- PA Ram, 18:16:12 03/01/05 Tue
  • It's a percentage based on 4 digits (1000 being perfect). It measures if a financial aid student-athlete 1)stayed and 2) whether he was eligible. They assign a point for each of these variables over both semesters and then figure the percentage for the entire squad. 925 has been determined by the NCAA as equivalent to a 50% graduation rate if continued for 4 years and, thus, the break point for future scholarship penalties. (NT) -- NCAA Nerd, 14:42:11 03/02/05 Wed
• we are 39th in country out of 328. The poor basketball report has nothing directly to do with Hill, since it looks at last year's performance. It does include the four guys who left Fordham without graduating which is why it is so low. The Basketball team was at 1000 after fall semester this year. Our target schools, Boston College and Notre Dame, were tied at 32. Beside Martin and DK, the guys on probation will also lower next year's score for the football squad. (NT) -- NCAA Nerd, 14:36:26 03/02/05 Wed

Doug Fullerton, commissioner of the Big Sky Conference, a I-AA league, argues that if the 15,000-fan requirement falls by the wayside, Div. I-AA will need a few concessions to make it a viable option for teams without large fan bases.

He is pushing for four changes:
1. Allow Div. I-A teams to count wins against Div. I-AA teams toward the minimum of 6 needed for bowl eligibility every year. (Under current rules, Division I-A teams may count only one such victory every four years.)
2. Allow Div. I-A home games against I-AA institutions to count toward the NCAA minimum of 5 home contests per season.
3. Do away with the I-A and I-AA labels, separating colleges and conferences instead by their intention to compete in bowl games and the lower-profile playoff.
4. Get the NCAA to spend more money on the I-AA playoff, to make the games more like bowl games for participating institutions.

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• Click on this message -- article pasted inside. -- ramMan, 09:10:04 03/01/05 Tue

• Besides DK Taylor, the other significant loss would have to be Tristan Martin, the starting fullback. Who will fill his place? Also, Ross Crist will not be returning. (NT) -- Rammer84, 03:51:25 02/27/05 Sun
• What's the story with Martin? (NT) -- Jimbo CBA'72, 12:05:54 02/27/05 Sun
  • Martin was another gpa casuality (NT) -- Rammer84, 08:36:49 02/28/05 Mon
• Martin was a selfish player who decided he didn't want to be at Fordham anymore and quit going to class.. (NT) -- Martin, 07:58:59 03/01/05 Tue

• The Giants have not always had their pre-season camp in Albany. Over the years, they've been at Fairfield U., Pace U. in Pleasantville and I believe in New Jersey at Fairleigh Dickinson (?). Back in the early '50's the Giants practised some at FU, waiting for the baseball season to end. It would be nice to have them but I don't believe we have enough room. (NT) -- OldRam, 13:02:57 02/23/05 Wed
  • Thanks for the info. Once I read your post I remembered that they had it at Pace (wasn't aware of Fairfield). I'm also not sure what is required from a space standpoint. Other than the main field and Murphy field as well as dorms and rooms to watch films, etc. what would they need that FU could not accomodate? Thanks again for the response. (NT) -- Ramalamadingdong, 13:42:15 02/23/05 Wed
    • Here are some ideas off the top of my head (more inside) -- DamnRam, 13:09:46 02/24/05 Thu
  • They were at Fordham through the mid sixties (NT) -- Remember when, 14:16:22 02/23/05 Wed
    • I could be wrong but I don't believe they ever had their full pre-season camp at FU-when they were playing at Yankee Stadium, they used our facilites while the baseball season was still on. I remember the LA Rams practising at FU. (NT) -- OldRam, 14:25:33 02/23/05 Wed
      • I believe at one time late '40s or early '50s Giants used Bear Mountain & Inn for training and then, as posted, would practice at Fordham while waiting for baseball to end. While at FDU for several years, the Giants were a problem as far as the upscale Madison community was concerned, e.g. crowds & traffic. I do not think Fordham has sufficient number of practice fields, first rate training facilities (weights, etc.), and overall interest in the dubious value of having the Giants. Let's focus on Fordham and not on worthless marketing gimmicks. In short, we do not need the Giants at Fordham. (NT) -- ramvet, 14:38:53 02/23/05 Wed
        • You are right-they did use Bear Mtn and they ran into the same problem at Fairfield as at FDU. I also agree with your conclusion...nuff said on this. (NT) -- OldRam, 14:51:56 02/23/05 Wed
        • Interesting takes. If we take the cheezy mktg. aspect out of things, might having them here help us upgrade our facilities. I believe that in addition to an increased contribution from Hofstra towards football in the early 90's, the Jets have also contributed quite a bit towards upgrading Hofstra's overall facilities (please correct me if that's wrong). So, would bringing them in help us fund some of the much needed improvement in our facilities (which seems to be an agreed upon subject based on the various threads posted throughout the board)? (NT) -- ramalamadingdong, 16:18:41 02/23/05 Wed
    • At the Prep from '63-'66 roughly, the Jints were regulars on campus and were about as classy a group as there was. You could sit with them in the Campus Center and shoot the breeze after practice. I remember walking out of McGinley with Alex Webster on the Friday before a big game against the Browns. Gifford, Robustelli, Rote, Katcavage, et al. - a very friendly bunch. Those Giants held a special place for Fordham not only on account of the Mara / Lombardi connection, but in particular they loved our / their legendary trainer, Johnny Dziegel. (NT) -- whm, 15:28:49 02/23/05 Wed
      • I remember Gifford playfully teaching Webster at the cashier's line at the Campus Center, the difference between the quarters and half dollars. They watched -- and I recall once cheered at a catch I made -- intramurals on Edwards Parade on their way to and from practice. At the Prep, we used used their old equipment, which Wellington Mara, Co Chairman of the Gridiron Club, donated. Years later, Donnie Trump, who kicked for us briefly before he was injured (as well as playing tennis and squash) , gave the NY General's eqipment to Fordham. Memories! (NT) -- R. Marrin, 19:49:55 02/23/05 Wed
        • Wow, what a riveting story about an intramural game........ let em guess, you had the same hairstyle back then? (NT) -- Johnny WhoCares, 09:00:58 02/26/05 Sat
• Giants were at Monmouth College during the early 70's (NT) -- FC, 15:48:22 02/23/05 Wed
  • be careful what you wish for. My recollection of their stay in NJ is that they tend to be more hassle then they are worth. The "upgrades" aren't done by them, they expect the school to do them. basically, my impression is that they treat you like a cheap whore and toss you away when their done with you. Lehigh hosts the Eagles, any Lehigh fans have an opinion? (NT) -- colgate13, 16:17:23 02/23/05 Wed
    • Good point. If the school is expected to fund all improvements, this would have to be filed under 'stupid' and sent to the wastebasket. i thought i had read that the Jets contributed to the Hofstra upgrades, though, but I'm unable to find a link to support. Anyone else know what the general rule is regarding who pays (college or NFL team ... or both)? (NT) -- ramalamadingdong, 16:25:41 02/23/05 Wed
• I too recall the Giants at FU in the early sixties. Jimmy Patton, Gifford et al. The NFL season started later in those days so there was a mix of players & students, something that would be minimized with today's schedule. Also, the NFL was not as popular and as I recall, there were no crowds to speak of coming to watch workouts. The players were approachable and I found it a nice experience. With security issues, crowds et al, that experience would not necessarily recur today. (NT) -- Jimbo65, 09:11:11 02/24/05 Thu
• I found 1 Newsday article (inside this post) that references the Jets contributing heavily towards facilities improvements/upgrades at Hofstra ... for what it's worth. -- Ramalamadingdong, 12:00:59 02/24/05 Thu
  • Once upon a time the Jets had to compete for practice time with the Mets when they both played at Shea. One time returning from a bad loss into La Guardia the coach looked out the window and saw a green field not too far from Shea. A deal was made and the Jets could practice there as long as the prisoners could watch when they weren't in lockdown... the land was on Riker's Island! Maybe we could do the same thing by painting a sign on the field that says: "Wellington, let the Giants practice here!". Doubt he flys into La Guardia, though. (NT) -- Ram '91, 18:40:36 02/24/05 Thu
    • The Jets have made a significant contribution to the athletic facilities at Hofstra because it is their year-round home. The Giants train out at the Meadowlands during the season so with the exception of summer camp, they would have no reason to be involved at Fordham the rest of the year. By the way, in the late '60's they also practiced at Maritime College out in Throggs Neck while waiting for the baseball season to end. (NT) -- Ramadama, 19:31:13 02/24/05 Thu
      • Good point on the 'year round' home comment. (NT) -- Ramalamadingdong, 12:34:50 02/28/05 Mon

• I like many of your suggestions.. Perhaps some brick work and a black wrought iron fence seperating the stands to the playing surface would also add character... An "FU" in the middle (50 yard line) of the fencing.. A statue or sculpture of some sort also would add chartacter commerating "Coffey".... I know the band wants to sit close to cheerleaders but you are correct by stating that they should sit higher and closer to midfield.. The sound would multiply and carry rather than where the band currently sits... (NT) -- A-10 soon.., 15:45:17 02/22/05 Tue
  • All of these are great suggestions! Many bands sit midway up in the stands or higher, and some bands even sit in the end zone seating, specifically for the acoustic aspects. I've always felt Fordham's band should move higher up. Sure, it's inconvenient to carry large instruments up and down slippery, narrow, crowded stairs but that can be dealt with. (NT) -- DamnRam, 10:55:24 02/23/05 Wed
• Good stuff. Not sure how much some of this stuff would cost or where the money would come from, but as long as we're wishing I'll throw out there to put even more than just modest bleachers on the visitors side of the football field. Also, given that the "stadium" is one of the first things you see as you enter campus, I'd love to see it be done well ... something in line with how the other buildings on campus look. Again, just a wish list. (NT) -- Ramalamadingdong, 13:33:55 02/23/05 Wed
• Jack Coffey,a Fordham graduate, played 110 games in the Major Leagues in 1909 and 1918. He played and managed in the minors and came back to Fordham as head baseball coach in 1922. He continued in that post for more than 30 years. See http://www.1918redsox.com/players/coffey.htm (NT) -- STL_RAM66, 16:03:19 02/23/05 Wed
  • Coffey was also the Athletic Director at Fordham. Although I'm not sure of the exact years for his tenure, I know he presided over the Athletic Department during the great football period at Fordham during the 1930's and 1940's. (NT) -- JoltinJoe, 22:10:14 02/23/05 Wed
    • He was a wonderful gentleman and AD at least through 1958. (NT) -- Joe S. ' 58, 00:06:54 02/24/05 Thu
• Re-do the men's bathroom in McGinley basement and name it in honor of Frank. (NT) -- C. Rapper, 18:43:01 02/24/05 Thu
  • How about just one urinal, a big one with the ice cubes in it. (NT) -- Pee Diddy, 10:47:38 02/27/05 Sun

• He's not even listed in the top 73 CORNERS on that website, nevermind as a top player. (NT) -- What's up with that?, 19:53:02 02/23/05 Wed
  • He was listed as a "Draft Sleeper", not a top player or one of the top 73 corners (NT) -- Rammer84, 23:20:38 02/23/05 Wed
• Thanks... nice video. Click on the link at the end of this message then scroll down to the 2.15.05 Showcase Video (Tad Kornegay, CB, Fordham) -- Click here (NT) -- ramMan, 00:33:33 02/26/05 Sat

• NICE ARTICLE ON KORNEGAY.. http://www.testsportsclubs.com/pages/club/news_kornegay.html (NT) -- NFLbound, 14:38:07 02/25/05 Fri
  • Thanks... nice Q & A with Tad. Here's the link -- Click here (NT) -- ramMan, 00:23:03 02/26/05 Sat
• if you click around you can find Aki Jones and NQ Gainous photos on this site as well.. preparing for NFL Draft /tryouts... (NT) -- NJramz, 14:53:19 02/25/05 Fri

• This Lincoln Center expansion is necessary. Fordham Law is the 15th most selective law school in the country. Measured by almost all criteria, it is a top 20 school. But US News ranks the school 34th, largely due to facilities. We have a poor "student to square foot ratio." Space is so cramped that the law school's clinical program operates from leased space near Columbus Circle. We need a state-of-the facility. This will place Fordham among the nation's best law schools, which in turn will help move the university as a whole to the forefront of higher education. (NT) -- JoltinJoe, 08:54:37 02/23/05 Wed
• The strategic plan will address the future of athletics at Fordham and will be released in October or November of this year. Some of the elements of the plan are completed, the Lincoln Center phase is a priority and this expansion has been discussed and worked on for over 5-6 years. I think we'll be generally pleased when the plan is released as it pertains to athletics. Be patient, athletics is not the number one priority at Fordham right now. (NT) -- Rambacker, 10:32:56 02/23/05 Wed
• 2025 (NT) -- FC, 10:11:53 02/25/05 Fri

• Has anyone heard any projections on what round he's projected to go? If he's legit 4.4 now and has increased his strength that much, he could go pretty high with a good combine performance. (NT) -- Ramalamadingdong, 13:48:25 02/23/05 Wed
  • Sorry, he's not getting drafted. No team is going to use a pick on a player they can get as a free agent. I think he could get a serious look and very possibly a contract, though. (NT) -- Ramadama, 19:36:11 02/24/05 Thu

• Re: Old Stadium Pland -- rammey, 14:24:17 02/22/05 Tue
• The multi-level parking structure supposedly will be done, however, I do not think there is a plan for a different baseball field. As I recall, all the necessary approvals were secured for the lot but the timing was poor i.e., multiple semesters would have been impacted so the plan was temporarily deferred. Do not know whether the lot is being rethought as part of the strategic plan being developed. IMO it should be, however, there usually is a time frame to use approvals which may be expiring. (NT) -- Jimbo65, 15:38:49 02/22/05 Tue
  • Last I heard the multi level(5 levels?) parking lot construction will begin in May. ramMan, any updates? (NT) -- Rambacker, 22:53:44 02/22/05 Tue
  • Where is the multi-level going to be built? On the left when you enter or over on the parking lot closest to Fordham Rd (near the new building)? I hope it's further away from the entrance so that a multi-level parking facility isn't your introduction to our campus. Just my opinion. (NT) -- Ramalamadingdong, 13:21:18 02/23/05 Wed
    • It will be built on the Fordham Road side of Parking Lot H, the one that is next to O'Hare Hall. Understand it will take up a portion but not all of the space in Parking Lot H. ramMan? (NT) -- Rambacker, 14:33:54 02/23/05 Wed

• will do. thanks (NT) -- Ramalamadingdong, 12:32:07 02/23/05 Wed