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Our good friend and fellow driver, Al Collard Jr. Little Al to some, Al to the rest.
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Re: lutzracing.com turbo blowthru -- Rob, 06:33:22 02/27/07 Tue
It had Dudley tuned EFI with Methanol when it went the 6.99 in Heavy Street. I was there and looked at it.
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Re: lutzracing.com turbo blowthru -- Shawn, 02:50:26 02/28/07 Wed
You must have been looking at the wrong car. Bill hates efi and would never use it. He is sponsored by and represents c&s carbs.
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Re: lutzracing.com turbo blowthru -- user, 19:52:02 02/28/07 Wed
I don't think anyone doubted the carb, it was more "your" ability to make it work.
I too heard that Lutz had a Dudley EFI on the car at that race.
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Re: lutzracing.com turbo blowthru -- Shawn, 20:03:40 02/28/07 Wed
Ha! Ha! Ha! I was running 15 years ago what most of ya'll are running now on small tires.
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Re: lutzracing.com turbo blowthru -- Bobby, 20:50:47 03/02/07 Fri
GIve me a breeak Shawn. If you were half as good as you think you were you would still be racing. Now you just thump your chest about things you could have done.
Go climb back in your airplane and fly around the race tracks to see where the racers hang out.
This website is for racers not keyboard warriors.
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Re: lutzracing.com turbo blowthru -- Martin Keefer, 06:17:34 03/04/07 Sun
Sorry Shaun but the car is now fuel injected. It did run good with the carb, but is faster fuel injeted.
This is a new design fuel injection system and Bill's car is a test car for this new technology.
Go to www yellowbullet.com in the forums and read all about it. Bill posts over there a lot.
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Re: lutzracing.com turbo blowthru -- For the Record, 16:32:14 03/16/07 Fri
Quote: Shawn, 20:03:40 02/28/07 Wed
Ha! Ha! Ha! I was running 15 years ago what most of ya'll are running now on small tires.
Thats some funny stuff there Shawn. Maybe on paper you were running those times years ago, but we all remember your car and it's once in a blue moon make it down the track record. Thats the reason you got out of the outlaw 10.5 and came over to the FSTA. Then once you got your butt handed to you here and found out you didn't have the resources to run the blow through setup you bailed once again.
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Re: lutzracing.com turbo blowthru -- Real true 10.5 racer, 06:23:27 03/04/07 Sun
This is why they did not want your combo in FSTA. This is an OUTLAW powerplant for Outlaw car's. Not a stock suspension class combination.
Personally I don't think you could have tuned that much power with a carb to work anyway on such a small tire.
TEMPLE RACE-~~~~MARCH 17TH -- LADDRGIRL, 20:44:03 03/13/07 Tue
NO MEMBERSHIP FEES WILL BE COLLECTED AT THE TEMPLE RACE SCHEDULED THIS SATURDAY MARCH 17TH
Due to the fact there’s been difficulty in getting a current schedule posted
 So come out and have some fun, and wear your green !
..... sorry for the delays, don't shoot the messenger
Al & I plan on being there !
FYI , we don't have any control over the FSTA web site, Greg will not give us the access
Al
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Re: TEMPLE RACE-~~~~MARCH 17TH -- David, 16:22:45 03/16/07 Fri
Anyone can post info. If you have some info on the schedule just post it so we can all see.
Temple Race -- corby, 06:55:34 03/07/07 Wed
What time does the race start.
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Re: Temple Race -- Zooby Zoo, 09:15:34 03/07/07 Wed
Gates open at 1pm
4-6pm qualify
1st round 7pm
35.00 to race
2007 FSTA -- Trevor, 06:21:29 03/01/07 Thu
I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON A STOCK SUSPENSION CAR FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW AND IT WILL BE READY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. I HAVE BEEN INTERESTED IN RUNNING YOUR CLASS AND WAS WONDERING WHAT THE OUTLOOK ON THE 2007 SEASON WAS LOOKING LIKE. ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO FILL THE SCHDULE AND WHAT KIND OF TURNOUT ARE YOU EXPECTING?
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Re: 2007 FSTA -- TREVOR, 05:09:00 03/07/07 Wed
I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW MORE. YOU CAN EMAIL ME.
THANKS!
FSTA - TEMPLE - MARCH 17TH -- Greg (FSTA), 09:51:09 03/04/07 Sun
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Re: FSTA - TEMPLE - MARCH 17TH -- Robert, 17:48:41 03/06/07 Tue
Is this the only FSTA Race this season?
2000 to Win Limited Street March 3rd!!! -- Robert, 15:54:10 02/25/07 Sun
SCHEDULING -- CORBY, 08:26:12 02/16/07 Fri
What is going on whith the scheduling of races.
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Re: SCHEDULING -- Martin Keefer, 18:12:34 02/21/07 Wed
I agree, we would really like a schedule.
I am ready to race.
$5000.00 to win stock suspension race with 3000lb weight minimum -- Robert, 14:32:00 02/13/07 Tue
2006 Points Awards -- Wildthing, 13:09:58 02/10/07 Sat
The awards for the top ten points awards winners will be given out at Sealy on February 24th, along with a short drivers meeting. All top 10 awards winners need to send me an 8x10 photo of their car as soon as possible so that we may have everything ready for the event.
For any questions, please contact me at 832-453-8936.
Thanks, Darryl
rules -- ex fsta racer, 10:41:50 01/06/07 Sat
Why would you ban alky blow thru,that makes no sense to anybody.You can make just as much power with race fuel,just turn the boost up.632 with 2 kits about 1800hp,small block 400 alky blow thru with about 30lbs of boost 1800hp,makes no sense whatsoever.
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Re: rules -- Greg (FSTA), 16:13:48 01/21/07 Sun
We allowed it last year for one person just to test the waters and they never showed up. Most of the people that want rules changed don't even own cars or have aby intention of attending any of the races.
Need membership -- Rudy, 17:32:57 01/10/07 Wed
I was a member a year ago but I only made one clash race all year. To many bills any how yall been? Also the new rule change on big blocks the weight penalty for tall decks mine is a stock block or is it for after market blocks big cubic inch?
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Re: Need membership -- Greg (FSTA), 16:10:33 01/21/07 Sun
Only the after market Tall decks carry the wieght penalty.
648 BB Chevy, Fulton NOS, Big Chiefs -- Cameron, 11:17:30 01/20/07 Sat
Merlin Pro,10.2 Deck,raised cam block.18 degree Big Chiefs,Titanium valves,Profiler Intake w/2 Fulton Foggers,2 Dominators,Moroso Pro alum. pan,Lunati Pro crank,Oliver rods,JE pistons w/extras,Jesel belt&rockers,LSM nitrous cam 4/7 swap.Comes with,tuneup,wires,starter,vacuum pump,water pump,regulaters. $16,900 Have Hughes 9" Nitrous converter for this combo for additional $800.
Cameron cell 281-831-0521
$4000.00 to win in Outlaw Stock Suspension and Limited Street -- Robert, 18:54:07 01/13/07 Sat
2007 Rules -- Randy, 16:53:46 12/31/06 Sun
Just wanted to let everyone know the rules for 2007 have been set and will be published very soon.
Stay tuned!
OUTLAW KING of STREET SHOOTOUT SERIES 2007 RULES -- OKOS, 16:57:48 12/18/06 Mon
We have a new 9" tire Heads-up class called "Quickstreet" in the Outlaw King of Street shootout series at Red River Raceway for the 2007-season This class will be run once a month along with our Limited Street and True Street classes.
True Street: 1/4 mile
1. Must be street legal. (Plates, mufflers, lights, etc.)
2. No lexan.
3. Fiberglass body panels limited to hood and deck lid.
4. Stock interior (rear seat optional for roll cage clearance)
5. Max tire size 28 X 12.5 DOT or 275/60 drag radial
6. No towing of race cars to the lanes or from the finish. Can be pushed by hand in the staging lanes.
7. Stock rear suspension. Bolt in I.R.S. replacement okay for Corvette. Shocks can be moved for tire clearance (max 2 inches from tire).
8. Bolt on traction devises only (With the exception of anti-roll bar)
9. No mini-tubs.
10. No wheelie bars.
11. Cars must complete a cruise starting at the track going up to Hosston and back. If your car doesn’t make it back under it’s own power you are disqualified. (cruise subject to change)
12. Single carb or stock style fuel injection, no Dominators or sheet metal intakes.
13. 2 stages of N2O max.
14. Conventional OEM style heads with stock valve configuration, iron or aluminum, no Big Chiefs or Big Dukes, small blocks no Yates heads.
15. Factory style automatic or standard transmission.
16. Gasoline only.
Limited Street (True Ten 5): 1/8 mile
1. No full tube chassis. Stock front frame rails from the firewall forward, (except Chevy II). Firewall must be in stock location.
2. No Lenco or Liberty style transmission.
3. Max tire 29.5 X 10.5 slicks as marked on the sidewall, Goodyear 30 X 10.5 okay, NO HOOSIERS.
4. All racers must weigh after each round. 2800 lbs for a small block with N2O, 3200 lbs for a big block with N2O, 3200 lbs for a Turbo or blower.
2700 lbs for small block with no power adders and 3000 lbs for big block with no power adders.
5. Any size engine, heads, and power adders okay.
6. Stock appearing Head Lights and working Tail Lights.
7. Decals or Lettering on paint to a MINIMUM.
8. Mufflers required for all vehicles except vehicles with Turbo. Exhaust must be directed toward rear of vehicle, No frontal or side exit in front of front wheels.
9. Tow vehicle must not pass the scales. If the racecar cannot make it to the scales the tow vehicle must be weighed before AND after it ties onto the car.
Quick Street: 1/8 Mile
1. No wheelie bars.
2. BB single stage N2O, turbo or centrifugal blower 3300Lbs.
3. SB single stage N2O 2900Lbs, 2 stage (fogger + plate), turbo or centrifugal blower 3100Lbs.
4. Max 76 mm turbo, F1R or D1R blower. Air to liquid cooler okay. No duel power adders.
5. Deduct 400Lbs for no power adders.
6. Ladder bars add 50Lbs, 4 links add 100Lbs.
7. Stock front frame rails, (except Chevy II) aftermarket suspension components okay.
8. Single carb cast intakes (no sheet metal), 4150 carb standard, Dominator add 50Lbs. Stock type fuel injection okay.
9. Conventional OEM style heads with stock valve configuration, iron or aluminum, no Big Chiefs or Big Dukes, small blocks no Yates heads.
10. Mufflers required, except turbo cars. Exhaust must be directed toward rear of vehicle, No frontal or side exit in front of front wheels.
11. Single N20 bottle and line.
12. Decals or Lettering on paint to a MINIMUM.
13. Stock appearing headlights and working tail lights.
14. No aftermarket clutch less transmissions.
15. 30 X 9 slick standard, deduct 100Lbs for 28 X 12.5 ET street, 28 X 9 slick or 275/60 drag radial
16. Cars will be weighed after each round and tow vehicle must weigh before and after passing the scales if the car cannot drive to the scales.
17 Aluminum dashes okay.
18. Gasoline only.
OUTLAW KING of Street Shootout series
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OKOS 2007 Schedule -- Robert, 15:04:48 12/31/06 Sun
MERRY CHRISTMAS -- laddrgirl, 23:43:00 12/23/06 Sat
MERRY CHRISTMAS FSTA MEMBERS
AND ALL OUR FRIENDS IN AUSTIN
BE SAFE
SEE YALL NEXT YEAR !!!
Dana & Al
WHERE'S "FAT RAT" AKA LIL RAT BEEN HIDING AT? DID HE RETIRE FROM RACING?? -- NEED TO LOOK IN BUFFET LINES I GUESS, 21:48:59 12/14/06 Thu
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COME AND TAKE IT RACE - SAT. DEC. 9 IS ON! -- LONESTAR, 07:57:30 12/05/06 Tue
CONTRARY TO SOME BS BEING POSTED ON HRG, THE COME AND TAKE IT # 1 RACE AT LONESTAR MOTORSPORTS PARK IS BEING HELD THIS SATURDAY, DEC. 9TH.
GATES OPEN AT 10 AM. TESTING BEGINS AT 12 NOON. QUALIFYING BEGINS AT 2 PM.
THERE IS OVER $10,000 UP FOR GRABS:
10.5 OUTLAW - $5000 TO WIN, $1000 TO RUNNER-UP
TRUE 10.5 - $2500 TO WIN, $500 TO RUNNER-UP
FREE TECH CARD FOR OUTLAW 10.5 & TRUE 10.5
INDEX CLASSES - $500 TO WIN, $100 TO RUNNER-UP
Index Classes: 5.15, 5.40, 5.80, 6.20, 6.60, 7.00, 7.50 & 8.00. Index Tech Cards: $30.
THE WEATHER AND TRACK CONDITIONS FOR THIS SATURDAY COULD NOT BE ANY BETTER WITH SUNSHINE AND TEMPATURES IN THE LOW 60'S.
WANT TO SEE SOME GREAT RACING? WANT TO WIN SOME MONEY? WANT TO SEE SOME OF THE FASTEST 1/8 MILE CARS AROUND? COME TO LONESTAR MOTORSPORTS PARK THIS SATURDAY AND COME AND TAKE IT!
www.LonestarMotorsportsPark.com
Points Results for 2006 top ten -- Darryl, 13:28:33 12/03/06 Sun
1 Greg Wright 500 2 John Flores 400 3 John Dinkle 380 4 Mike Croix 340 5 Tie Al Collard & Darryl Holt 330
6 Kyle Huettel 300
7 Clark Bird 240
8 Mike Kurtz 220
9 Chip 200
10 Ralph Howard 190
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Re: Points Results for 2006 Top Ten -- Mrs. Darryl, 13:54:03 12/03/06 Sun
Sorry guys, I caught him when he was halfway through....this is how the top ten list should look.
1. Greg Wright 500 pts.
2. John Flores 400 pts.
3. John Dinkle 380 pts.
4. Mike Croix 340 pts.
5. TIE Al Collard/ Darryl Holt 330 pts.
6. Kyle Huettel 300 pts.
7. Clark Bird 240 pts.
8. Mike Kurtz 220 pts.
9. Chip R. 200 pts.
10. Ralph Howard 190 pts.
COME AND TAKE IT - DEC. 9-10 -- LONESTAR MOTORSPORTS PARK, 20:41:30 11/16/06 Thu
Lonestar Motorsports Park is proud to announce its first TEXAS COME AND TAKE IT Shootout to be held on Dec. 9 & 10.
Here is the program:
Saturday - Dec. 9
Outlaw 10.5 W - $5000 to win (free tech card)
Index Classes 5.20 to 8.0 $500 to win
Sunday - Dec. 10
Outlaw 10.5 W - $5000 to win (free tech card)
True 10.5 - $2500 to win (free tech card)
Gates open at 12 Noon. Racing Begins at 2 PM.
$20 for spectators.
For more information, visit:
www.LonestarMotorsportsPark.com
website update -- John Sheffield, 17:56:41 11/12/06 Sun
What is the deal someone update this stuff. What is the schedule for 07 Etc Thanks John
Rules meeting for 07 season? -- Rob, 11:12:56 10/18/06 Wed
1. How about allowing coil overs? This will allow us more tire clearance so we can get the tires underneath the car for a cleaner look. Most cars already run Coil over shocks with-out the springs anyway. There is no advantage to allowing the spring too. The double adjustable shock is the advantage not the spring.
2. How about allowing Small Blocks with Inline heads to use two 4150 carbs on a tunnel ram cast or sheetmetal. Inline Small Block cylinder head cars need help. Either that or possible allow a third nitrous system on Small Blocks only.
3. How about requiring a different tire size like a 28.0/10.5 max or something similar like that to seperate the FSTA stock suspension cars more from the Limited Street/True 10.5 cars. There needs to be a little more seperation besides the stock suspension. I think this would help the specators, make more of them want to watch the class and increase the car count too.
4. Try to run this class at events/racetracks that have Outlaw 10.5, True 10.5, Index classes ect on the same date. (join forces) Shreveport, LA would be a good place they are welocming Heads up racing at that track and also at Pine Valley raceway in Diboll.
Just some thoughts for next year. You guys vote and decide....
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Re: Rules meeting for 07 season? -- Shawn, 02:44:19 10/23/06 Mon
Good luck! I tried to bring these same things up last year but noone would hear it! Stupid rules made me quit racing
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Re: Rules meeting for 07 season? -- Shawn, 02:49:35 10/23/06 Mon
They voted in my 2300 HP turbo alcohol smallblock but wouldn't let someone else run a 600HP smallblock because it had a toilet on it. NO CLUE!
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Re: Rules meeting for 07 season? -- Excuses R US, 16:19:43 10/23/06 Mon
Thats not what made you quit racing. You couldnt get your combo to work and run the number and you didn't have a clue or the Balls to step out and play cause you would have got your ass handed to you.
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Re: Rules meeting for 07 season? -- fan, 11:46:09 10/23/06 Mon
John Flores went low 20's at the river over the weekend. How much more do the small blocks need???????
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Re: Rules meeting for 07 season? -- News to you, 15:50:52 10/23/06 Mon
The Small Blocks need about .2 tenths from what I seen. Mike Croix/Matt Cook team went a 5.04 @ 146 at Red River Raceway Saturday Night.
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Re: Rules meeting for 07 season? -- SB car, 18:59:38 10/23/06 Mon
They don’t need anything when Mike C, Kyle, Chip, Chaney's old car and Mike Kurtz don’t show-up or leave the race early. Seven cars, 5 SB’s and 2 BB’s, Unc went out first round against John F and Kyle left early!
What you really should be concerned with is the fact that a 3500+ pound 57 Chevy with a BB and “1” kit can run low 5.20’s and FSTA allows that same combination (less ladder bars) run at 3200 and “2” kits!
I will say this, my hats off to Mike and Matt for stepping up to True 10.5/Limited Street. Congratulations on your runner-up.
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Re: Rules meeting for 07 season? -- BBFSM, 20:38:49 10/26/06 Thu
57 CHEVY 1 KIT THAT'S SOME BAD ASS SHIT, OR IS THAT A 2KIT PLATE.
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It's 632"!!! -- 200shot, 06:36:41 10/27/06 Fri
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Who's 57 does it belong to and where are they from? -- I want to see it run with my own two eyes., 15:52:14 10/28/06 Sat
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The car belongs to Greg Green of Midilothian Texas. -- Unc, 16:38:58 10/30/06 Mon
He runs TTT5 Extreme Street. His car is 3540 lbs and has a 632 with a single fogger. Car runs low 20's on 1 kit. In testing a couple weeks back it went a 5.18, but most of the time it runs low 20's at 135 MPH.
Here is a link to some pic's.
http://outlawstreetcars.smugmug.com/popular/6/96066124
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Will the FSTA Open class have any rule changes for the 07 season? -- Robert, 18:49:05 10/30/06 Mon
n/m
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Re: Will the FSTA Open class have any rule changes for the 07 season? -- Greg "FSTA", 06:48:14 11/01/06 Wed
Yes, the open class will have some changes as well as the 2nd class. Would like to see the Open class go more towards limited street and the 2nd class get back to heads up but with limitations to get it back even and more budget minded.
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What are you guys leaning towards doing? -- Rob, 14:16:15 11/01/06 Wed
I would not let Ladder bars in and make it a Limited Street Class. Remember this is Factory Street, not Limited Street (LSTA),. I recommend making the open class more open, allow Big Chiefs Heads (Any cylinder head), still single 4bbl and a 632 CI limit, Allow 94mm Turbo with the good intercoolers ect. I do like the idea of a Heads up second class with more limits on Tire, power adders, and engine combo's. What are you guys leaning towards doing?
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Re: The car belongs to Greg Green of Midilothian Texas. -- n/a, 19:41:42 10/30/06 Mon
Unc, do you know his avg. 60' times?
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Seems like Greg told me it 60's 1.23 or so, if I remember right. -- Unc, 21:00:58 10/30/06 Mon
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Re: Rules meeting for 07 season? -- Robert, 14:37:32 11/01/06 Wed
Single stage Fogger is not really a limit. I can get 700+ HP from one and all you need is a Progressive Controller to control it. Click the link below: My customer set the NMCA Extreme Street record with one of my single stage foggers at 3540lbs on stock suspension with only 525 ci (Stock Block)and conventional cylinder heads.
Click this Link to see 5.20’s with 525 ci BBC w/conventional cylinder heads, one kit, stock suspension at 3540lbs looks like
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Re: Rules meeting for 07 season? -- onlooker, 10:16:35 11/12/06 Sun
Leave the suspention stock and allow any power adder..anytype of bigblock 3200, all turbos3200 small block nitrous2900. The crowd wants to see fast cars, not the same ole 3 cars every time.
Oct 14th Race at Prescott -- Robert, 09:53:37 10/10/06 Tue
5000 to win race -- Robert, 09:48:00 10/10/06 Tue
MARK JENKINS -- KYLE, 12:37:04 10/09/06 Mon
ANYONE KNOW MARK JENKINS NUMBER GIVE ME A CALL 713-819-2241
Last TTT5 race for 2006 October 20th -- TTT5, 08:07:39 10/09/06 Mon
http://www.texastrueten5.com/pictures/2006_Pictures/Advertising/October_2006_flier.jpg
Rules question -- Robert, 06:46:30 10/03/06 Tue
Can a conventional cylinder head small block have 2 4150 Carbs allowed with gasoline only. Like the Blower cars or does this only pertain to the blower cars for some reason?
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Re: Rules question -- Greg "FSTA", 17:52:38 10/05/06 Thu
Thanks for your qustion. we will look into this and get back to you shortly...
Temple Race -- Randy, 10:27:27 10/01/06 Sun
It's another one in the books.
I will have the ladder posted later today.
Congrats to John Flores and team on their win and to Griswald for his runner up last night.
My view from the cheap seats.
First round (from the best of my knowledge)
Al Collard gets a bye into the second round.
John Flores and Chad backer square off. Flores takes the right lane, it looks to be a bit tighter. Chad had some wheel spin on the hit and John motors on for a win.
Here is the match up for bragging rights... Ralph agiast the King. The King is known for his hole shot driving abilities and he looked ready to strap one on ol Ralphy...
Lights come down and it looked like ralph had the advantage. Ralph gets loose around 500' and has to lift. The score board shines The king 5.77 and Ralph 5.79. Ralph gets the old man on a hole shot. I wonder how long Ralph will hold that over his head? I think the lights were like .407 to .432.
Next pair up is Jason Rearick and Griswald. This was a close one, Griswald takes the win. I think Jason had some issues and slowed up on this pass.
Last pair up is Brad Dinkel and Darryl Holt in the Wild Thing. Brad takes the right lane and and pulls out a win over the Wild Thing.
Next Round
First pair out puts Flores against Collard. Al gives the win to Flores at the hit when he goes red.
Next pair in the lanes were Brad and Griswald. This one had the makings of a great race. They both stage up and are on the converters for what seemed like an hour or two till the tree finally came down. I think Brad got tired of waiting for the yellow and let off the brake giving Griswald the win. Brad's light was pretty red.
Ralph gets a bye for this round and just breaks the beams.
Next Round
Flores and Howard get paired for this round. Flores takes the right lane and we have a race on this one, Howard is out first and is on one helluva pass when he lost traction around 500' and crossed the center line giving Flores the win. Ralph, if you want to chase cones, you should really take up SCCA racing.
Griswald gets a bye to the finals..
Finals.
Flores has the right lane, Griswald really wanted the right lane, but Flores took it at the start.
Lights come down and they are off, Flores goes out like a rocket and Griswald leaves wheels way up and when 2 comes on the back tires want no more, the car made a hard move right and he had to pedal and drive it. I think Griswald was going to finish Nascar style and draft off of John going down track. It was a great save by Clark, he had his hands full with the sudden lane change.
Congrats to all, no one last paint and we all walked away.
Thanks to Al, Dana, Darryl and Mike for making the pull from Houston. Oh and Al, when are you gonna make her an honest woman. ;)
shreveport heads up race -- Brett Walker, 23:42:11 09/17/06 Sun
we are having a true ten5 race along with our king of the street race oct 14th, here are the rules. Outlaw King of the Street Shootout
Rules
General Rules:
1. Minimum NHRA and Track safety rules apply to the cars and drivers. King of the Street personnel have no influence or say so over the Red River Raceway staff.
2. We are here to have fun, be courteous to the other racers, crew and spectators. If you have a problem or question bring it to the attention of the King of the Street personnel. We reserve the right to ban any racer or race team for inappropriate behavior.
3. We will be running a .400 Pro Tree.
4. Courtesy staging will be enforced.
5. No refunds.......with 2 exceptions (a) Race is cancelled by Outlaw King of the Street. (b) Your class doesn't have enough entries and you can't fit into the rules of another class.
True Street: 1/4 mile
1. Must be street legal. (Plates, mufflers, lights)
2. DOT tires Max size 28 X 12.5 ET Street or 315 Drag Radial
3. Stock rear suspension.
4. Bolt on traction devises only (No ladder bars)
5. Mini-tubs okay but must have frame rails in stock location.
6. No wheelie bars.
7. Cars must complete a cruise starting at the track going down to Gilliam and back. If your car doesn’t make it back under it’s own power you are disqualified.
Pro Street: 1/4 mile
1. DOT Tire (Any size) slicks are allowed, add 100 lbs.
2. Tube chassis okay.
3. All racers must weigh after each round. 3000 Lbs with a small block, 3200 Lbs with a big block (With driver)
4. No electronics.
5. 9.0 second break out. If you run 8.99 seconds or quicker, you are disqualified
6. Tow vehicle must not pass the scales. If the racecar cannot make it to the scales the tow vehicle must be weighed before AND after it ties onto the car.
Outlaw Street: 1/8 mile
1.Must have doors that open and close.
True 10.5 : 1/8 mile
1. No full tube chassis. Back half from the front seats back okay.
2. Must have Stock Front Frame Rails except Chevy II
3. 10.5 slicks as marked on the sidewall NO Ws.
4. All racers must weigh after each round. 2900 lbs for a small block, 3200 lbs for a big block running N2O, 3200 lbs for a
Turbo or Pro-charger.
2800 lbs for small block with no power adders and 3000 lbs for big block with no power adders.
5. Any size engine, heads, transmission and power adders okay.
6. Stock appearing Head Lights and working Tail Lights
7. Decals or Lettering on paint to a MINIMUM
8. Mufflers required for all vehicles except vehicles with Turbo. Exhaust must be directed toward rear of vehicle,
no frontal or side exit in front of front wheels.
9. Tow vehicle must not pass the scales. If the racecar cannot make it to the scales the tow vehicle must be weighed
before AND after it ties onto the car.
Outlaw 10.5: 1/8 mile
(If there are not enough cars for this class they will run in Outlaw Street)
1. No Full Tube Chassis Cars
2. Must have Stock Front Frame Rails except Chevy II
3. Stock appearing Head Lights and working Tail Lights
4. Decals or Lettering on paint to a MINIMUM
5. Mufflers required for all vehicles except vehicles with Turbo. Exhaust must be directed toward rear of vehicle, no frontal or side exit in front of front wheels
6. Unlimited Power adders
7. 33x10.5w max tire size
8. All racers must weigh after each round. Weight will be 3000 Lbs with a 200 lb deduction for Small Blocks running ONLY Nitrous
9. Tow vehicle must not pass the scales. If the racecar cannot make it to the scales the tow vehicle must be weighed
before AND after it ties onto the car.
lookin tohave big payouts in our true street class and also a big payout in true ten5. for more info email brett at bodydropped318@aol.com or shreveportdragracing.com for updates. thanks for the spot on the board............Brett Walker
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Re: shreveport heads up race -- n/a, 21:58:47 09/18/06 Mon
7. Cars must complete a cruise starting at the track going down to Gilliam and back. If your car doesn’t make it back under it’s own power you are disqualified.
How long is the drive?
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Re: shreveport heads up race -- brett walker, 22:42:18 09/19/06 Tue
the drive should be around ten miles. NEW DATE DUE TO OTHER RACES IN AREA!!! OCT 21ST
FOR SALE COMPLETE TWIN TURBO SMALL BLOCK CHEVEY -- Tony, 20:05:20 09/19/06 Tue
I have a complete twin turbo set up for sale or trade for big inch motor.pieces:Twin 76 mm precision turbos,406 ci small block,jeff jhonston oil pan.BRC crank,GRP rods,ROSS turbo pistons(buttons instead of spiral locks),18 degree heads,titanium valves,t And D shaft rockers,jesel belt,front mount distributer,ATI balancer,crower lifters,Botie Block,Botie intake,Barnes externel oiling system,EFI 160 pound injecters,All the piping,intercooler,All the best of the best.Please give me a call at (318)-465-5954. Thanks
Tony
S/S RACING INDEX SHOOTOUT -- Gary @ s/s, 10:45:00 09/19/06 Tue
HOPE EVERYONE IS READY FOR THIS WEEKEND IF THE RAIN GODS TREAT US RIGHT WITH THE COOLER AIR IT COULD GET INTERESTING
DURING QUALIFYING AND ELIMINATIONS AS FOR US WE HAD ALL NEW METAL PUT INSIDE THE CAR BY CLARKS CUSTOM FABRICATIONS SO WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN RACERS CHANGE A FEW THINGS ON THERE RIDES IT LEADS INTO OTHER CHANGES SUCH AS SETTING THE CAR UP FOR A BIG BLOCK AS WELL AS THE OLD TRUSTY SMALL BLOCK
HOPEFULLY WE WANT SLOW DOWN TO MUCH IF AND WHEN WE DECIDE TO
TRY ONE OUT! NOW BACK TO THE RACE THERE HAS BEEN A CHANGE IN QUALIFYING ALL S/SRACING INDEX RACERS WILL BE REQUIRED TO MAKE AT LEAST ONE QUALIFYING RUN IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS CALL ME AT 832693-4672 ANYTIME!
GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE THIS WEEKEND GARY@S/SRACING.
HMP Sept 23rd Race -- Greg (FSTA), 09:03:18 09/17/06 Sun
The FSTA will not be attending the Max-Impact race. This desicion was made by the FSTA due to the already scheduled race the following weekend @ Temple. Most of the racers can not make 2 weekends in a row and since this was a rescheduled race and the Temple race has been on the schedule for months we decided this would be for best. We appreciate HMP's understanding with this decision and look forward to being back @ HMP in the near future. Stay tuned for further details.
Heads UP series at Red River Raceway -- Robert, 17:37:40 08/22/06 Tue
HELP!!! -- Brett Walker, 12:49:17 08/16/06 Wed
can someone please email me the rules. i cant get them to pull up on my computer for some reason. i dont have the microsoft word thing i think is what it is. my email is bodydropped318@aol.com
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Re: HELP!!! -- Griswald, 10:08:59 08/17/06 Thu
Sent
Last night's race at HRP -- wildthing, 13:30:43 08/13/06 Sun
Good races, congrats to "Cheater Chip" on the win
Sorry about your car, Tracy & Bill....hope you're feeling ok and are back soon.
For all of you who couldn't make it last night, you missed some good races, and a LOT of fun.
See ya in the staging lanes next time!
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Re: Last night's race at HRP -- cheatachip, 23:46:24 08/13/06 Sun
NOT PROUD OF IT......JUST LIVING UP TO IT! SPELL IT RIGHT SOUNDS BETTER CHEATACHIP
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Re: Last night's race at HRP -- wildthing, 16:34:29 08/14/06 Mon
sorry Chip just messing with you You still did a good job
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Re: Last night's race at HRP -- Luggage rack, 21:03:20 08/14/06 Mon
Congratulation on your win Chip, hopefully I will have some luck in round 3!
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Re: Last night's race at HRP -- CHIP, 21:30:20 08/14/06 Mon
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Cheat N Chip -- sounds even better than that, 12:50:32 08/16/06 Wed
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Increased payout for the TTT5 Race at Texas Raceway in Extreme Street -- Unc, 19:22:08 08/14/06 Mon
We wanted to pass along the Extreme Street payout this Friday night August 18th is going to be increased. The details should be posted soon. For updates go to http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/index.php?boardid=16835
HRP 8-12-06 -- Randy, 20:15:57 08/13/06 Sun
True 10.5 race at Red River raceway on August 5th -- Robert, 07:30:17 07/31/06 Mon
"Night Of Fire True 10.5 Shootout"
$2000.00 to win
$400.00 R/U
$100.00 Qrt.
$100.00 ENTRY
16 car Field
August 5 @ Red River Raceway (Shreveport, La.)
"King Of The Street Shootout" August 19 @ RRR
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Re: True 10.5 race at Red River raceway on August 5th -- brett walker, 01:27:58 08/09/06 Wed
the night of fire race at rrr was cancelled due to rain. the race has been rescheduled for the 19th of august along with the outlaw king of the street shootout. for classes and rules go to shreveportdragracing.com or for any questions u might have no answered by the website u can email me bodydropped318@aol.com thanks for the spot on the page... brett walker
is FSTA dying??? -- rally the troops and circle the wagons, 06:25:44 07/31/06 Mon
i just saw that we ain't running with the pro mods August 5. what's up wit that? i know that car count has been down....i hope we are'nt losing our place to race!!!!!
Saturday at Evadale -- Wildthing (sad), 18:05:58 07/28/06 Fri
This saturday's race at Evadale has been cancelled due to weather.
Thanks,
Wildthing
4000.00 to win Stock suspension race -- Robert, 20:25:31 06/23/06 Fri
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Congrat's Kyle on winning the stock suspension class! -- Robert, 09:10:18 07/26/06 Wed
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2 More Races!!! -- makurtz, 17:29:09 07/25/06 Tue
Linda @ Temple Academy booked us two races! Sept. 30th & Oct. 21st. I know the Austin Centex crew is gonna love that!
Hope to see y'all at Evendale this weeked.
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Re: 2 More Races!!! -- Clark Bird, 05:40:07 07/26/06 Wed
We would like it better if more than 2-3 cars from Houston make the drive. Thanks for the dates close to home!
IS FSTA DYING??? -- Where are all the cars?, 11:29:18 07/16/06 Sun
Car count gets lower and lower....what's going on?
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Re: IS FSTA DYING??? -- Greg (FSTA), 16:17:08 07/16/06 Sun
No the FSTA is not dieing. We are not getting the 22 + cars like before but we are still getting more cars than any other "single" class (12-16). Hot weather and multiple races on the same day as well as cars being broke are also factors.
Update -- Zman, 15:25:25 07/09/06 Sun
This site has not been updated lately. Whats up ? No one has anything to say?
Sudden Impact Race. Need your Help for Magazine Coverage -- Wes Strom-NitroArt.com Photography, 12:31:46 07/09/06 Sun
Need your help folks. I was covering the Sudden Impact Racelast nite last for RPM/Street Shootout Mag and need to identify some of the FSTA's members cars. The magazine is going to print this afternoon and need the info ASAP if possible. I am on the phone with the editor as of this message. Here are the names...Mike Croix - 69 Camaro....color of car..John Flores...Year make and model,color...Traci Laursen - Stang...year make and model.Thanks for your help guys. All of the pics from last nite's race will be on my site NitroArt.com by tomorrow. My cell phone is 254-855-6403 or I can be reached by email
Sudden Impact 2 Schedule -- HMP, 19:07:59 06/27/06 Tue
pics -- Zman, 21:09:17 06/21/06 Wed
Are there any pic's from the race at HMP this month ?
Index races at PVR -- Robert, 11:29:16 06/21/06 Wed
Sudden Impact 2 @ HMP -- HMP, 13:11:30 06/20/06 Tue
temple raceway -- johnnyd, 15:23:39 06/13/06 Tue
Are yall planning a trip back to Temple Raceway this year? I was hoping you would because I really enjoy your style of racing.
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Re: temple raceway -- Greg "FSTA", 16:48:54 06/15/06 Thu
Yes, Linda is looking at her schedule and we should have at least 1 more race at TAD...
Thank you from the FSTA -- Al FSTA tech and Wildthing, 18:45:38 06/12/06 Mon
We would like to thank HMP for having us at the event Saturday night, and all previous events. We enjoy running at HMP, and look forward to many more races.
A special thanks goes out to John Huettell for making it possible for us to race at HMP.
From ALL the FSTA members and their families.
Sudden Impact Race Pictures -- Greg (FSTA), 20:53:20 05/18/06 Thu
OPEN CLASS WINNER KYLE HUETTELL
OPEN CLASS RUNNER UP JOHN DINKLE
FSTA LIMITED WINNER GREG WRIGHT
FSTA LIMITED RUNNER UP
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. -- Greg (FSTA), 21:05:11 05/18/06 Thu
VIDEO ON DVD -- MIRANDA, 17:13:13 05/15/06 Mon
SUDDEN IMPACT VIDEOS ARE READY. THEY ARE OVER AN HOUR LONG AND $20.00. I WILL BE AT HMP FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. IF YOU RACED YOUR CAR ITS ON THE VIDEO.IF NEEDED EMAIL ME AND I CAN SEND A COPY
? -- john, 21:26:21 04/19/06 Wed
I saw shuans (pippen)car up for sale on racing junk does anybody know why he is selling it?I really wanted to se how that combo worked out.
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car -- Shawn, 02:25:21 04/27/06 Thu
I am burned out on the racing scene now. I've been racing for about 12 years and everytime I come out with something I have to listen to a bunch af crying bitches trying to say my car isn't legel. It is always legal, just faster than everyone else. I'm done. I've been taking flying lessons so the plan is to sell the car and buy a plane. No crybabbies in the sky!LOL I think the chassis is sold, just need to sell the motor and the trailer.
Turnkey 426 ci small ford turbo alcohol $20,000
2005 Vintage outlaw 28' loaded with generator $10,500
979-451-3251
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Re: car -- Show Us, 15:03:42 04/29/06 Sat
You still haven't shown anyone anything yet, Bring it, Don't Sing it!
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PLEASE -- Robert, 19:16:29 05/07/06 Sun
You complained all last season trying to get your combination legal, then they made it legal and you never showed up and did anything. Nobody is scared of that car..lol Do you really think cars in this class that have already been 5.0's are skeered of your BS? Now you're buying a plane?..2 months ago you were selling it to run Outlaw Pro Mod? Get it running and come race it in this class and if your such the guru it would sell easily. You have obviously decided you cannot cut the mustard so you have opted to just lick the jar.
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Re: PLEASE -- Shawn, 00:17:51 05/09/06 Tue
I quit so I wouldn't have to listen to assholes like you anymore. It isn't worth it.
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Re: PLEASE -- 2 cents, 05:48:50 05/12/06 Fri
You quit because you wanted to do something different. Tell it like it is. And on a side note, I think you would have got you a$$ handed to you if you would have ever brought it out. If you thought you could have dominated the class you would have come out and done so. Cars are worth a lot more once proven, not just talked about how bad they should be.
Advance Tickets -- HMP, 05:53:12 05/10/06 Wed
Check out new website www.bignutsracing.com -- Rick, 14:32:49 05/09/06 Tue
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Question -- New Comer with alot of money, 19:17:00 05/04/06 Thu
What is the fastest time ever recorded for this stock suspension class.
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Re: Question -- F_S_T_A, 22:27:40 05/04/06 Thu
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5.02 is the record... -- far behind that, 14:32:38 05/05/06 Fri
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IT'S ON!! -- HOUSTON MOTORSPORTS PARK, 13:54:12 04/18/06 Tue
S/S Racing Index Shootout -- Brian / Hollywood, 14:07:05 04/17/06 Mon
Trailer thieves at it again -- Roy, 07:54:03 04/14/06 Fri
Last night thieves broke into the yard at Westside performance and stole a custom made 18' flat trailer, 3500 lb winch, 6 lug wheels, surge brakes, Black in color, Treadplate floors and treadplate fenders, 4" channel frame. If anyone hears someone got a new trailer that is not manufacturer built let us know. Drop me a line, we will take care of the rest!!!!! 713-365-9090
CONLEYS DYNO DAY -- Brian / Hollywood, 23:38:29 04/10/06 Mon
FSTA HMP 4-8-06 -- Brian / Hollywood, 16:50:12 04/09/06 Sun
PHOTOS ARE NOW POSTED AT REALDRAGRACING.COM. UNDER HOUSTON MOTORSPORTS PARK. HERE ARE A FEW PREVIEWS - ENJOY!
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$2000 to win MESRA EZ Street RACE April 15, 2006 Jackson, TN -- Robert, 12:24:52 04/06/06 Thu
MESRA EZ Street RACE April 15, 2006 Jackson, TN
MESRA will have it's 1st race of 13 races April 15, 2006 at Jackson, TN 2K to win based on 12 cars. Go to www.mesraracing.com for more information or you can contact Chris Burleson @ 901 210-3069
VP Fuel Nitrous -- Kelly KC Motorsorts, 06:32:55 04/04/06 Tue
This is KC Motorsports just need to know how much nitrous, C-16 or any other parts I need to bring for the race. Give me a call or email will be picking some nitrous up wednesday or thursday 713 534-5582.
Qusestion About TRACTION CONTROL DEVICES!!!!!!! -- Real Drag Racer, 21:07:35 03/11/06 Sat
Are these devices approved for Factory Street?
I would like to know before, I Spend my $2500.00
Please try to reply before next race.
thanks,
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Re: Qusestion About TRACTION CONTROL DEVICES!!!!!!! -- Greg (FSTA), 09:35:21 03/12/06 Sun
No they are not allowed.
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Re: Qusestion About TRACTION CONTROL DEVICES!!!!!!! -- Ralph, 18:45:20 03/13/06 Mon
I think this needs to be addressed at the next race. there are some rumors stiring that there are car(s) with this device.
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Re: Qusestion About TRACTION CONTROL DEVICES!!!!!!! -- The Riddler, 08:12:02 03/23/06 Thu
Well I tell you what, I just hid mine in my car. And I be damned if I don't use it. I spent the money I'm gonna use it! I tested the car out of town, picked up 2 tenths with a small tune up, went 5.00s. DON'T BUCK THE SYSTEM, RIDE THE SYSTEM.
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RULES do not say they are illegal and a bunch of people already have them. -- See Ya, 19:26:53 03/23/06 Thu
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Re: RULES do not say they are illegal and a bunch of people already have them. -- wildthing, 08:30:32 03/26/06 Sun
read the rules it is there !!!
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then every single car with a msd 7531 is now going to have to change boxes!!!!!!!! -- shopping for a new ignition box, 05:07:30 03/27/06 Mon
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Re: then every single car with a msd 7531 is now going to have to change boxes!!!!!!!! -- FACT, 20:15:45 03/31/06 Fri
SO THAT MEANS IF ANYBODY HAS AN NITROUS CONTROLLER THAT IS NOT LEGAL. BECAUSE THAT ALSO IS CONSIDERED TO BE A TRACTION CONTROLLER...AND I NO FOR A FACT THAT THERE IS AT LEAST ONE PERSON WITH ONE OF THOSE.
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Traction Control Devices -- Greg "FSTA", 09:54:49 04/01/06 Sat
Your getting a little carried away here. Traction Control in the sense that we are talking about is any device that monitors wheel speed, driveshaft speed, RPM, etc and makes changes during the run with data aquired during that run. NOS programers,timers and boost controllers are set prior to the run. When used by themselves they are fine, not in conjunction with a TCD.
Any results from the race this past weekend. How many cars and what kind of times did they run. -- Thanks, 06:16:23 03/06/06 Mon
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Check the Members message site... -- FSTA, 16:43:57 03/09/06 Thu
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slicks for sale -- Richard, 14:28:24 02/28/06 Tue
m/t 29.5x10.5x15 slicks with 10 passes. 175.00 or b.o call richard at 281-252-5455 or 832-797-6971
rules -- dwayne, 21:20:35 02/21/06 Tue
i was looking at the rules 5.75 rules look a lot like the other. is 5.75 the brake out of them rules. thanks
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Re: rules -- Greg (FSTA), 14:48:50 02/26/06 Sun
5.74 is the breakout..
slicks for sale -- mike4518, 13:50:47 02/24/06 Fri
m/t 28x10.5x15 slicks for sale have 4 passes on them. take 200.00 or b.o. call mike at 281-370-9044 or 281-460-3907
Outlaw Streetcar shootout coming soon in Arkansas -- caveman, 17:20:32 02/22/06 Wed
Ya'll come on if you're bad ...
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Re: Outlaw Streetcar shootout coming soon in Arkansas -- caveman, 17:24:34 02/22/06 Wed
for more info. on rules, click info. link at :
www.prescottoutlaws.net
From Scott @ HRP -- Greg "FSTA", 16:13:13 02/17/06 Fri
REVOLUTION RACE CANCELLED
(Just got off the phone with Gerald the GM of HRP and due to the forcast of weather tomorrow the Owners (The Angels) decided to cancel the race.
The high tomorrow is supposed to be in the mid to high 40's, a 50% chance of rain and the wind at 16mph gusting to 31mph.
As much as I hate to cancel this race it is probably the best choice if you are wanting success. At this time the race has not been rescheduled so I will keep everyone posted!! The way I look at it, To Darn Cold for 10.5 cars and to dangerous!! Especially at the begining of a race season!! Don't want a chance for drivers hurt or their awesome cars!! Scott out!!
BENEFIT CARSHOW IN LOUISIANA -- Mike, 11:59:44 02/12/06 Sun
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Posted on 2/12/2006 at 01:40:40 PM by Mike Foreman
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Everyone’s Invited
DAY LONG EVENTS INCLUDE
CAR, TRUCK & BIKE SHOW
PARTICIPATING WILL BE CLUBS FROM LAFAYETTE, ALEXANDRIA, FOREST HILL, TEXAS & MISSISSIPPI - ALONG WITH SEVERAL LOCAL CLUBS
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LIVE BANDS PERFORMING ALL DAY
FEATURING: MARTIN DUPLECHIN, BUTCH MENARD AND BENT BAYOU
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FOR MORE INFORMATION CALL
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Stuff for sale -- RacinJason, 17:53:42 01/23/06 Mon
Holley 1000cfm HP 4150 carb $425.00
NOS progressive nitrous controller PT#15835b used twice $220
3 1/2 3chamber flowmasters with some 3 1/2 pipe $80
8.8 31 spline carrier and 31 spline axles for Mustang $125
28x10.5 S slicks USED $60.00
Jason 832-647-9936 Spring area
Legal Cylinder heads -- ., 22:31:06 01/19/06 Thu
Are small block 15* buick heads legal in the 5.75 class
VP Fuel and Parts -- Kelly KC Motorsports, 21:16:43 01/17/06 Tue
Hey KC Motorsports is getting ready for the new year I need to know who need what I will be ordering fuel next week. The C-16 $8.50 gallon $460.00 on a drum ($8.36 gallon) C23++ $12.50 gallon $680 drum ($12.36 gallon). If you need a different grade or make a order HAVE DOWN ON DRUMS call kelly 713 534-5582. Another thing the new nozzel out from Cold Fusion are killer on a 565" BBC motor with 32-28 jets made 417hp. KC also became a Aerospace Componets, and Holeshot Wheels dealer will beat anyone price. Thanks and good luck on all the thrashing to get up grades finished.
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Re: VP Fuel and Parts -- Kelly KC Motorsports, 21:19:58 01/17/06 Tue
Also forgot working on a PowerMaster dealer 16 volt AMG batterys, starters, and many other electronics.
655 ci bbc for sale -- Bubba, 15:09:20 01/11/06 Wed
Merlin 11.625 Block
Brooks 88 Rods - 8 inch
Ross Pistons
Moldex crank 4.875 stroke
Canton Oil Pan
Jesel Belt Drive
Dart Big Cheif Heads 14 degree
Titanium Valves
Jesel Rocker Arms 1.8 Ratio
Sheet Metal Intake with 2 NOS Kits
ATI Balancer
Two 1150's
Titan Oil Pump
MSD Distributor
Six passes on Motor
Built and maintained by Arrow Machine out of Brenham, TX
Cam Specs Available at time of purchase
Asking $22K 512-563-6207
Dave Morgan - Drag Racing Chassis Seminar -- John, 12:08:24 01/09/06 Mon
Dave Morgan will be in Katy Saturday Jan. 28th at the Hampton Inn on I-10 at Mason presenting his 9-hour chassis-tuning seminar that includes a Q&A at the end of the presentation. The seminar will begin at 8am and end sometime around 6pm, depending on the number of questions in the Q&A session.
Donuts and coffee will be provided and you'll have an hour for lunch (not provided). ;)
Dave says to get plenty of rest the prior night because this is the most intense 1-day seminar he has ever given.
Some of what you'll learn:
...and a whole lot more!
The cost is only $85. Martel Brothers is sponsoring the seminar so give us a call or visit the website to register:
281-391-7772 or click here
thanks for letting us post this.
If I moved the frame in for tire clearance can I run this class, it's still stock suspension? -- Nick, 18:35:31 01/01/06 Sun
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I don't see why you can't race in the 5.75 class if you can detune it a bit. As long as you have true Tens....
Greg call John -- John, 12:30:06 01/04/06 Wed
got a quick question for you...281-391-7772 (martel)
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Re: Greg call John -- Greg (FSTA), 18:35:48 01/04/06 Wed
Call you tomorrow...
Kyle Huettel -- RacinJason, 07:17:33 01/03/06 Tue
Kyle, can you give me a call? I have a question about wheels I need to ask you. 832-647-9936
Tin what goes "BUMP" in the middle of the day???????? -- Kenny, 07:16:38 01/01/06 Sun
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MERRY CHRISTMAS & HAPPY NEW YEAR -- Greg (FSTA), 07:58:02 12/25/05 Sun
HAVE A SAFE AND HAPPY HOLIDAY....
NEEDED -- Rick Cowger, 18:47:01 12/19/05 Mon
If anyone would happen to have a.....
- dry sump oil tank that is 6" wide and 10" tall (or something close to that) and that holds 10 to 13 quarts. that is in pretty good shape.
and/or a
- dry sump oil pan that is a 3 pickup,and that kicks out to the right side to the starter.
If you have one or both of these idems, and you would want to sell it, please call me.
Work/ 713 820 8247
home/ 281-350-0516
cell/ 713 854 1886
Happy Holidays From HMP -- HMP, 16:35:32 12/16/05 Fri
Houston Motorsports Park would like to wish everyone a Safe and Happy Holiday Season. We are in the process of track improvements to make your racing experience even greater in 2006. HMP promises a season loaded with exciting special events, awesome touring series and faster racing action.
FINALLY, just in time for the Holidays, Houston Motorsports Park proudly announces a new addition to our website. You can now view and purchase HMP Sports Apparel items online at the following link:
Shipping time is 2-3 days for Houston and the surrounding areas and 4-5 days for everywhere else.
Be sure to check the website frequently to see our updated schedule of events. The 2006 oval track schedule is currently posted and the 2006 dragstrip schedule will be coming soon.
Happy Holidays from Your HMP Family!!
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T Shirt Pics -- HMP, 21:31:36 12/18/05 Sun
2006 Clash rules -- RacinJason, 11:04:10 12/15/05 Thu
Check out the Clash of the Titans Cheap street and True 10.5 rules Freedy has up for 2006 season. Most all of the FSTA cars can fit into one of these classes and be compeitive. www.theclashofthetitans.com
For Sale -- Rick, 17:24:24 12/10/05 Sat
-536 Short Block:S.R.P. pistens,Eagle Rods and crank,
allready balanced,all NEW,6 1/8 passes on them
asking 4,000
and
-345 pro 1 heads:port work done,new,new triple springs
Asking 2,000
cell/ 713 854 1886
Work/ 713 820 8247
home- 281-350-0516
reschedule race -- Dale, 18:40:56 12/02/05 Fri
When will the FSTA race be rescheduled that should have been run on Sunday, November 27th?
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Re: reschedule race -- Greg (FSTA), 15:34:20 12/03/05 Sat
According to what Scott @ HRP said, it will be after the first of the year. We will Keep you posted.
FSTA RULES POSTED -- Greg (FSTA), 12:56:38 12/03/05 Sat
www.Factorystreet.com and click rules or
http://factorystreet.com/Rules2006.doc
rules -- dew468, 09:44:16 12/02/05 Fri
can someone track who is responsable for posting rules, and get them to explain why they aren't up yet. even rules committee people have no idea. a month should be long enough to post them. lots of people waiting.
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Re: rules.Good Question there Dew468 -- Rob, 16:32:33 12/02/05 Fri
I would like to see the rules also. They should have been up by NOW. I hope Mike or Greg can get on the ball and post them. I have a tubro car and want to finish it with it being within the rules. I hope to see them soon.
For Sale -- Kevin, 16:34:31 11/29/05 Tue
-536 Short Block:S.R.P. pistens,Eagle Rods and crank,
allready balanced,all NEW,6 1/8 passes on them
asking 4,000
and
-345 pro 1 heads:port work done,new,new triple springs
Asking 2,000
cell/ 713 854 1886
Work/ 713 820 8247
home- 281-350-0516
Sunday -- RacinJason, 10:34:33 11/26/05 Sat
ATTENTION
The scheduled Clash of the Titans Race for Saturday November 26th has Been Canceled and will resume tomorrow,
Sunday November 27th. Gates will open at 11:00 A.M. and Qualifying will be at 1:00 and 3:00 P.M.
All Eliminations will start at 5:00 P.M.
Note that after todays rain, major track prep will have to take place in the morning to be ready by 11:00 A.M. hopefully explaining the
later start time.
The Outlaw Racing Revolution 1/8th mile race previously scheduled for Sunday the 27th, will be Re-Scheduled to a later date
and hopefully will know what that date is tomorrow.
For Sale -- Kevin, 20:53:20 11/25/05 Fri
536 Short Block
-S.R.P. pistens
-Eagle Rods and crank
-allready balanced
-all NEW
-6 1/8 passes on them
asking 4,000
cell/ 713 854 1886
Work/ 713 820 8247
home- 281-350-0516
HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL. -- Greg (FSTA), 18:27:08 11/23/05 Wed
BE SAFE IF YOU HAVE TO GET OUT. SEE EVERYONE SUNDAY.
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Re: HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL. -- Bad Habit, 07:45:42 11/24/05 Thu
Is tHe scared rat gonna sHow or not for sunday so we can drag you
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Re: HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL. -- ladder girl, 15:54:57 11/24/05 Thu
HAPPY THANKSGIVING FSTA!
What did everybody go? -- prochargeds10, 06:44:27 11/22/05 Tue
Everybody got the " I scared of turbo's and A/W intercooler blues". Cat got your tounges?
The debate is over now, time for the upgrades this winter!
HRP race Sunday -- 10.5 racer, 20:46:18 11/20/05 Sun
Is there going to be 5.75 class at the race Thanksgiving week-end ? just curious, to see if I should finsh working on the car that's gonna drag little rat's butt! don't be scared.... it'll only hurt for a little while. No Excuses... just bring it! HAVE A NICE DAY!
FOR SALE -- Kevin, 10:34:02 11/20/05 Sun
FOR SALE. I have got a 536 that i am trying to sell;
motor has 5 runs on it 1/8 mile,
Dart Block, Eagle Crank and Rods, SRP Pistons
460 bore, 345 Pro 1 heads, ATI Balancer, Double roller
chain set, Alunimun Front Cover, 810 lift Roller
Cam, 1.8 Intake Roller Rocker Arms ,1.7 Ehaust Rockers
Crane products, Edelbrock Intake.
InTake and heads have had some port work.
All parts are new.
Motor is 15.1 compession.
Asking 12,000 obo.
cell/ 713 854 1886
Work/ 713 820 8247
home/ 281 350 0516
New TTT5 message board.............................. -- TTT5, 20:33:50 11/17/05 Thu
TTT5 is going to a new message board format. You will need to register before you can post on it. Here is the link:
http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/index.php?boardid=16835
check this out -- jr, 15:09:54 11/14/05 Mon
http://media.putfile.com/wheeliecomp
CALL OUT -- CHIP, 11:18:55 11/11/05 Fri
I AM CALLING OUT WORMBOY FOR THE HRP/THANKSGIVING GRUDGE RACE. CHEVELLE vs CAMARO, NITROUS vs. TURBO, OLD SCHOOL MUSCLE vs. TURBO TECHNOLOGY.
HRP NOV 27TH -- Greg (FSTA), 20:42:52 11/10/05 Thu
FSTA Race @ HMP on Nov 5 -- Randy, 20:56:27 11/08/05 Tue
Ladders will be posted this week..
John Flores, Winner FSTA 1
Roy Chaney, Runner up FSTA 1
Chad Baker, Winner FSTA 2
Greg Wright, Runner up FSTA 2
(No Picture, camera broke)
FSTA 2:
1st round:
Jason Wolfe vs Kelly Genzer
Al Collard - BYE
Jeremy Catchings vs Chad Baker
Darryl Holt - BYE
Garland DeBord vs Cody Samm
Greg Wright - BYE
Rudy Mungia vs Barry Hicks
Jason Traugott vs Craig Miller
2nd round:
Kelly Genzer 5.82 vs Al Collard(Broke)
Chad Bake r6.39 vs Darryl Holt 6.59
Cody Samm 7.18(red light) vs Greg Wright 10.33
Rudy Mungia 6.04 vs Jason Traugott5.75
Semi Finals:
Kelly Genzer vs Chad Baker
Greg Wright vs Jason Traugott
Final:
Chad Baker 5.91 @ 109 vs Greg Wright 5.71-broke out
Winner:
Chad Baker
FSTA 1
1st round:
John Dinkel - BYE
Ben Miles - BYE
John Flores - BYE
Mike Croix - BYE
Chip Radercheck - BYE
Mike Kurtz - BYE
Kyle Huettel(broke) vs Roy Chaney
Randy David - BYE
2nd round:
John Dinkel 5.48 vs Ben Miles 5.57
John Flores 5.19 vs Mike Croix 6.78
Mike Kurtz 7.07 vs Chip Radercheck(broke)
Roy Chaney 5.24 vs Randy David 10.71
Semi Finals:
John Dinkel 6.77 vs John Flores 5.51
Mike Kurtz 5.36 vs Roy Chaney 5.27
Final:
John Flores5.25 @ 134.4 vs Roy Chaney 5.24
Winner:
John Flores
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Re: FSTA Race @ HMP on Nov 5 -- Greg W., 01:32:29 11/10/05 Thu
You guys make a funny..............
The fact is that i got out run by Chad in the finals.
I ran the 5.71 in the top 4 against my arch rival, JASON.
I ran a 6.00 to Chads 5.91. Now i cut a better light and out 60ft him but he went around the sand bagger. Way to go chad...... That 'll teach them. I guess you guys know it's all about having fun for me. I'm glad to have a place to race even if its 3 1/2 fricking hours away. I think FSTA is only going to get better.
Jason i'm going to get you back for my little gift. You could have at least got me a BLOW UP DOLL. The hole i cut in the cardboard poster is killing me.
Happy the man who can endure the highest and lowest fortune.
He who has endured such vicissitudes with equanimity has deprived misfortune of its power.
DR. NITROUS
A.K.A. MR.ROCKIT
A.K.A. THE KING
A.K.A BLACK 55
Heads -- S-10, 10:46:25 11/08/05 Tue
Would you clarify the new updated rules for me. I believe yates and sb2 heads are ok at bb weight, 18 degree heads are ok at 2900 weight, what about 15 degree heads or even 11 degree heads and at what weight? Thanks.
rules -- davis, 08:58:32 11/06/05 Sun
Thanks for allowing in my motor...........yesterday went to crap,,,,,,was tuning it up to do some testing at the fsta race and one thing led to another with stuff that had to be changed and then a vacume build up problem now exists and will have to be fixed , to be ready to run ........All this was at 1 o'clock and i figured we wasent going to get voted in with out attending ,but thanks guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: rules -- s-10, 18:09:01 11/07/05 Mon
Does this mean the sb2 head is allowed as well and at big block weight? What about 15 and 18 degree heads...are they allowed at 2900 weight? No one seems to know but would appreciate any kind of input.
Saturday's Race -- Icedog, 10:17:35 11/07/05 Mon
Who won??
FSTA is almost dead! -- billy, 15:40:29 11/06/05 Sun
After last nights POOR car count and NO SPECTATORS its safe to say that FSTA is almost dead and we might as well look for a different class to race with! Just the facts.
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Re: FSTA is almost dead! -- Spec Tater, 17:05:46 11/06/05 Sun
24 cars is almost dead? Guess that would mean the HRG 10.5 is in the ground.. hahahaha.... Fans were still coming in the gate all night and it was a good crowd.
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Re: FSTA Please -- smack down, 06:03:42 11/07/05 Mon
I would make the assumption that "Billy" can't hang and is bitter because of it. What kind of little girl comes on a board and makes a statement like that. Back in the CLOSET, BOY!
STILL TIME TO MAKE IT OUT OT HMP -- Greg (FSTA), 17:42:37 11/05/05 Sat
First round of Qualifying is about to start in 40 mins... Paul Peace just oiled the track so they are running behind.... Hop in the car and head out.... 24 FSTA CARS are about to do battle... Bad9er is fresh off the wrench but ready to play...
What time does the meeting start on Saturday? -- Racer, 12:30:33 11/04/05 Fri
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Re: What time does the meeting start on Saturday? -- Greg "FSTA", 15:53:48 11/04/05 Fri
1PM
HEADS AND WELDED ON TABS RULES ETC -- DAVIS, 18:03:42 10/28/05 Fri
I SHOULD KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT AND BE HAPPY THAT SO FAR YATES IS VOTED AT 89 PERCENT, BUT I JUST CANT..........PEOPLE KEEPS TALKING FACTORY THIS, FACTORY THAT, ETC ETC.......LETS BE REAL........ IF YOU CANT WELD TABS ON THE REAR END ,YOU CANT WELD THEM TO THE FRAME RAIL FOR MOTOR AND MID PLATES.......IF THE SO CALLED CONVENTIONAL NEEDS TO BE USED, WHAT CAR CAME WITH A CONVENTIONAL NITROUS , PAIR OF SLICKS ,WHEELIE BARS, ROLL CAGE ,PARACHUTE ,CONVENTIONAL TALL DECK (LIKE ALL THE CARS CAME STOCK LOL)CONVENTIONAL OPENED EXAUST, CONVENTIONAL WINDOWS, ETC ETC THIS CAN GO ON FOR MILES .............. THE POINT IS WE GOT 10.5 TIRES AND EVERY PART OF THE REAR SUSPENTION HAS TO BOLT ONTO THE FACTORY LOCATION,,,,, BUT WE ADD STUFF TO HELP US ,THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS ................ITS JUST POINT OF THE MATTER FOR WHAT WE ALL DO AND HAVE IN THE CARS...........IF YOU HAVENT BEEN TO THE MEMBER BOARD, YOU DONT KNOW THE POSTS IM TALKING ABOUT ,SO NO RESPONCE IS NEEDED, UNLESS YOU HAVE READ EVERY POST THERE .......IF YOU HAVE PLEASE POST WHAT YOU FEEL, BUT LETS BE FAIR HERE ON THE BIG PICTURE .........WE GOT 10.5 TIRES FACTORY SUSPENTION WITH ADD ONS, FULL INTERIOR ,HECK I STILL HAVE POWER WINDOWS LOL ..........WE GOT 2 CLASSES LETS KEEP EM GOING ....AND A 302 BLOCK WITH YATES AINT HURTING NO ONE IN THE UPPER CLASS( WITH 680 PLUS C.I.ALL READY ALLOWED) AND THE OTHER CLASS CAN VOTE A WHOLE NEW SET OF RULES FOR WHAT THEY WANT ...........THE MORE POSTS I READ I AM STARTING TO AGREE WITH SHAWN ON THIS DEAL (TO A EXTINT), ONE CLASS LET EM ALL OUT ON FACTORY SUSPENTION (BUT ADD WEIGHT TO BIG BLOCKS WITH UNCONVENTIONL HEADS JUST LIKE SMALL BLOCKS), AND ONE CLASS WITH A BREAK OUT INDEX FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE BAD ASS CARS BUT CANT COMPETE FOR FIRST PLACE WITH THE FASTEST CARS IN THE CLASS ............THANKS FOR YOUR TIME READING JUST MY POINT OF VEIW............
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Re: HEADS AND WELDED ON TABS RULES ETC -- DAVIS, 16:11:00 10/29/05 Sat
And since i received a few emails on this post ,,,,,,,to clarify I meant if the only way yates is voted in is to also let big blocks run big cheifs ,then they should have to add weight just like small blocks ........not saying i want to totaly change up the rulls and allow that like it came across but if thats what people wants then im ok by that is what was meant ....to be honest i dont think i should have to take a 100 or 200 pd hit because of the yates ,it is a small engine spraying only one kit but i just want a place to play with it so im willing to work with this if the majority will vote to find a way to let me in ........
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Re: HEADS AND WELDED ON TABS RULES ETC -- Glenn, 13:26:39 11/02/05 Wed
As I'm trying to get ready for this class this is what I think: In terms of suspension, any type of traction device which bolts onto the welded tab on the rearend should be considered stock. Utilizing U-bolts to secure the bar/arm is a stock modification regardless of what type of set-up it is. Frame connectors are welded in so then front mounting points for bars/arms should be allowed as well so long as it bolts to it respectively.
For instance, if fully bolt-in kits containing lift bars and coil springs to replace leaf springs is available it should be still be considered stock. These do exist. Stock is defined as still being essentially bolted in as far as suspension goes.
In terms of engine mods, this has been going on for a while now. Allowing small blocks to run symmetrical port heads (chevy) and Yates (Ford) sbould not really constitute a weight penalty. Why? Because they're still small blocks just with better heads now. Big block heads flow way more than small blocks and there's still the cubic inch factor. A 600 plus in rat with conventional-style heads still has a huge advantage over a Yates or symmetrical headed 400 inch small block. That's for real, guys. Find some common ground on these issues so you can attract more racers and fans to FSTA events. Once again, thanks for hearing us out. Guys like me are waiting to get into the FSTA. Good luck!
JUSTIN CURRY VS BAD9ER -- Greg (FSTA), 19:12:39 10/28/05 Fri
2 out of 3... Stock suspension VS Ladder Bars. HMP Nov 5th it will happen...
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Re: JUSTIN CURRY VS BAD9ER -- Glenn, 12:54:41 11/02/05 Wed
Man, what a deal! I really like both cars a whole lot but, it's just something about a car flyin' with stock suspension that does it for me. Gotta go with the 9ER!!!
NOV 5TH -- Greg (FSTA), 21:49:46 10/31/05 Mon
Chad -- RacinJason, 18:28:43 10/31/05 Mon
Chad Baker I need your e-mail address or give me a call.
A certain Mustang from San Marcos -- Saw It, 08:52:43 10/27/05 Thu
went 5.17 in San Antonio last weekend with a conventional headed SBF. What's all this talk about Yates heads for?
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Re: A certain Mustang from San Marcos -- SDW, 13:55:58 10/28/05 Fri
That's what I've been trying to say.
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Re: A certain Mustang from San Marcos -- NATHAN, 07:24:31 10/29/05 Sat
HOLY BANANAS BATMAN
Just My .2 Cents -- Glenn, 15:21:30 10/28/05 Fri
Guys, I have been checking this class out and it has a lot of potential. The crowd turn out is not as good as it could be because people want to see the cars go faster. Granted, BAD9ER is probably the cream of the crop but, that's only one car in the 5-teens or so. I believe the engine rules need to be loosened up a bit to allow quicker times and it can all still be done on stock suspensions. If people see stock suspended cars running what TTT5 cars run on ladder bars etc. I really see it taking off. It's all about evolving the classes. Look at the Drag Radial classes in NSCA where Smooky Hall packs 3,400 lbs. on stock suspension and radials to the tune of 7.80s-7.90s! Sure, he's not running conventional heads but, with one carb. and two systems pressurizing 565 c.i., it's pretty impreesive to me! This is what fans want. Cars that look like everyday drivers and run high fours to low, low fives in the 1/8. I'd like to see Kyle's car run 4.90's on a stock suspension right next to Justin's ladder bar car. You should seriously think about some engine flexibility. Thanks for allowing me to post. Good Luck.
FSTA @ HMP NOV 5TH -- Greg (FSTA), 21:22:21 10/27/05 Thu
Race -- RacinJason, 21:20:34 10/26/05 Wed
COPIED FROM COTT BOARD
The Clash of the Titans and Houston raceway park have joined forces to bring a huge weekend of Outlaw Racing to Houston Raceway Park on November 26 & 27, 2005. Saturday will be the Clash of the Titans World Finals and Sunday Nov. 27th will be HRP's OutLaw Racing Revolution. Two Big Races, Two Big Purses and some of the Best 10.5 Racing you will ever see. Booked Heads up match races will also be on hand for some of the best Nitrous and Turbo Cars in Texas and adjoining states.
Saturday will be The Clash of the Titans rules, Classes, payouts, and points. www.theclashofthetitans.com
Sunday will be HRP's OUTLAW RACING REVOLUTION with the following classes and payouts. All of HRP's OUTLAW RACING REVOLUTION races will be 1/8 mile.
Factory Street - $50.00 Entry includes Car/Driver (1) Crew
Winner - $1,500
R-Up - $750
Semi's - $200
1/4's - $50
True 10.5 - $75.00 Entry includes Car/Driver (1) Crew
Winner - $3,000
R-Up - $2,000
Semi's - $250
1/4's - $75
OutLaw 10.5 - $125.00 Entry Car/Driver (1) Crew
Winner - $5,000
R-Up - $2,000
Semi's - $250
1/4's - $125
Heads Up Grudge Matches - includes $25.00 Entry Car/Driver (1) Crew
$2,000 Total Payout
10 Races @ $200 ea.
Winner - $150
R-Up - $50
Spectator Admission - $25.00 per day or $40.00 for 2- Day Pass includes
Clash of the Titans and HRP’s Outlaw Revolution Race
Tune and Test - $25.00 Car/Driver
Pro Tree Freddy
Clash of the Titans
So I'm taking it FSTA races on the 27th of NOV
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Re: Race -- Greg "FSTA", 07:00:58 10/27/05 Thu
You are correct. I just got the details late last night about this race. Didn't want to post until it was a for sure deal. HRP is joining the 10.5 racing sceene. More details to follow as we get them...
1050hp 598 BBC Must sell now! -- Freddy, 23:02:47 10/26/05 Wed
Emergency forces sale! Make reasonable offer and it could be yours!
Complete motor from pan to carb with 2 nitrous kits already plumbed. 1250 hp Holley carb worked by Ovaho perf. Dart single plane intake arp head studs arp main studs Jesel rockers Jesel timing belt Dart PRO1 355cc cnc ported heads Clark copper gaskets Heads and block o-ringed Sheetmetal valve covers comp cams custom ground solid roller cam comp cams pushrods solid roller lifters Brooks aluminum Rods 4340 steel crank Merlin block 14-15 to 1 JE nitrous pistons milodon oil pan high volume oil pump msd crank trigger msd distributer motor completely balanced and blueprinted Motor dynode 1050 on motor motor has less then 15 passes on it. All parts in this motor are brand new out of a box. This is not a freshened up motor it is new! Complete motor $13,000 Ran 8.20 in a 3100lb car with a small tune up on 10.5 tires and only 1 kit. Motor will go 7's for sure on 2 kits if car will hold it. Call 210-849-3225 if interested. Thanks
Final TTT5 Race at TXR for 2005........................................................... -- TTT5, 07:04:58 10/23/05 Sun
This simple answer -- iworshipwolfe.com, 07:37:59 10/21/05 Fri
This simple answer to Shawns' question about why FSTA cars can't hang with The almighty Wolfe and Justin is that their cars are not legal in our class! With all the whining I thought you might be related to Ray, Shawn!!! LOL !!! Build the class up, don't keep tearing it down!!!!!!!!! Your'e killin' us!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: This simple answer -- Shawn, 10:42:16 10/21/05 Fri
I have thought to make this class grow, not tear it down. I know Justin and Wolf can't run our class my thought was to open it up some so we can go after them. Everyone except for procharged s10 take shit the wrong way on here. It's like trying to talk to 10 ladys that are on the rag. I don't want this an open motor class to fit my needs I got an old 10year old wore out smallblock. I would like to see everyone go faster if you can't hang then run the limited class. What I have been trying to say is that everyone I talk to says the spectators want more or they will not come watch. If you go watch a race do you want to see something with alot of limits or balls to the walls all out drag racing? I am not making this shit up and I know we can't race with 15 people in the stands unless we race for blue ribbons instead of money.
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Re: This simple answer -- Greg "FSTA", 11:42:58 10/21/05 Fri
Shawn, Copy this link and go register. This is the NEW FSTA MEMBERS Board...
http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/index.php?boardid=15877
Rules -- Shawn, 05:01:18 10/20/05 Thu
I saw some discussion on rules on centexhotrods. Why dont we open it up and make really simple rules? Since there is a 5.75 index class for the guys that are on that level lets go all out on the fast class. Stock suspension, conventional heads and any power adder. We could even open up the head issue and run any head if we want. Remember the stock suspension is the limiting factor. It does not matter how much power you have you have to get it down the track. If someone builds a 3000hp blown motor they would not be a threat they would just smoke the tires.I think everyone wants rules to keep David Wolfe out, hell let him race thats what the fans come to see the out of control cars that are on the edge. everyone else just has to get their shit together so we can send him back to Dallas with empty pockets. The flyers say FSTA fastest true 10.5 in texas with bumper dragging power. I haven't seen anyone drag the bumper and TTT5 limited street is the fastest true 10.5 in texas. Lets open it up guys we don't need limits on nitrous kits, fuel, blowers are turbo. Run what you brung!
BB nitrous and turbo 3200 lbs
Smallblock nitrous 2900 or maybe lighter?
no wheelie bars
Everyone needs to post their thoughts on here so we can all think about it before the meeting. This is the place to discuss FSTA not centex.
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Re: Rules -- Griswald, 05:19:59 10/20/05 Thu
Thanks for stopping by the site Shawn.
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Re: Rules -- Randy, 06:30:49 10/20/05 Thu
Everyone needs to post their thoughts on here so we can all think about it before the meeting. This is the place to discuss FSTA not centex.
Unfortunately the internet is a big place. There are many racers in Central Texas and they frequent our site. Sorry we ruffled your feathers by having an open discussion somewhere other than here. There appears to be more traffic over there as well as more people joining in on the conversation.
By all means sign up and weigh in over there as well.
Randy
Keyboard Racer Extraordinaire
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Re: TTT5 limited street is the fastest true 10.5 in texas. -- FSTA Racer faster than U, 06:45:01 10/20/05 Thu
That is only the case when our guys go up there. If you recall almost everytime we have gone up we came home with the GOLD. They keep changing the rules to keep us from dominating. The BADDEST TRUE 10.5 is in HOUSTON. As for bumper draggin, you have to attend the show to see the GO. Don't hate the Player.
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Re: TTT5 limited street is the fastest true 10.5 in texas. -- shawn, 07:24:39 10/20/05 Thu
Man, ya'll people sure take stuff the wrong way. I just meant that most fsta racers look on here for anything regarding fsta and nothing is here. For the above post about being faster than me I don't know what brought that up and don't know how fast you are. I know I went 5.30's at my first race with a new combo, It pissed me off and I sold the motor because I wanted to go FASTER.
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Re: TTT5 limited street is the fastest true 10.5 in texas. -- Greg, 07:33:34 10/20/05 Thu
Shawn,
It sounds like you just need to go race L/S and leave us slow guys alone!
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Re: TTT5 limited street is the fastest true 10.5 in texas. -- Nathan, 07:46:47 10/20/05 Thu
I think what Shawn was trying to say is that this FSTA discussion need to be on the FSTA board. It's great that you guys are having a discuusion on your own board but not when the thread was started by FSTA ADMIN. Come on isn't that what this board is for???
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Re: TTT5 limited street is the fastest true 10.5 in texas. -- Griswald, 09:19:50 10/20/05 Thu
Actually, there was another thread about an upcoming race in San Antonio that started leaning towards FSTA stuff so I made it one by itself.
It's all good guys, we appreciate the traffic and hope you all stop by more often.
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Re: Rules -- prochargeds10, 07:39:56 10/20/05 Thu
I agree with shawn, any engine, 10 kits, 3 blowers and 4 air/water intercoolers. Make it hook on 10" tire.
There would be a crap-load more cars and bigger payouts, they might even pay good down to 1rst round losers so I can get some winnings too.LOL
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Re: Rules -- RacinJason, 10:20:09 10/20/05 Thu
Greg I also read on the ATX board where you would like to run a drag Radil class. Well why not remove the 5.75index and run a drag radil class insted. I'm game.
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Re: Rules -- Greg "FSTA", 10:22:07 10/20/05 Thu
That’s what I'm talking about... The Open class should be just that...OPEN and our Limited class for the rest. If we get enough interest from the 6.20 and slower guys we could bring that on as well. The main thing is not to divide so much that the FSTA suffers as a whole. There is no real way to divide the class by combos because we are so spread out with things that work. It takes support from all of the racers that want a place to fit in. We are going to be electing some committee members at this meeting so that when rules need to be tweaked/modified it will be for the betterment of the group as a whole, so start thinking about who you would like to see representing you and your group. 2006 is going to be a GREAT year for the FSTA and we look forward to more people getting involved and stepping up. Just 2 years ago 5.80’s was flying and everyone was stunned at what could be done on stock suspension and true 10.5’s, Look at us now, 5 teens and 20’s. Unreal and getting faster everyday…. Post your thoughts and if you have a question and don’t want to post it just send us an email…. Se you at the meeting……
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Re: Rules -- Randy, 10:50:27 10/20/05 Thu
I like the idea of a rules commitee.
So in other words, you think we should let the open class be wide open to any motor combo?
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Re: Rules -- Shawn, 11:54:18 10/20/05 Thu
Greg, Why is it everytime I post something on here you try to bash me? I am just trying to give some input on here about what I think about the class not be an asshole. I am a paid member so I can voice my opinion like everyone else right? You told me to just go race limited street, I plan on going to a few of their races just like everyone else. I am just trying to say what I think will get a big carcount and bring in the fans and let the class grow. I have been racing heads up 10.5 classes for about 13 years now and have seen one after another die. I think what kills classes is to many rules where someone would have to build a car just for that class only. A few simple rules make it alot easier for someone to throw a car together and come race. Us guys have always tried to team up and help each other. If someone has a car, his buddy has a motor and the guy down the street has a transmission you can scrap that shit together in a weekend and go race and not study the rules for a month and change every part you have. Everyone I have talked to likes the unlimited 10.5 and stock suspension, everytime I have brought it up you disagree with me and say it will cause problems. If we want to do this all we have to do is make one vote and if over half agree we are done so we don't have to discuss every little motor combo rule for hours. I really like the drag radial class idea instead of the index that would be cool. I really have not seen alot of street tire classes around here but I know they are big everywhere else.
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Re: Rules -- Greg "FSTA", 12:04:32 10/20/05 Thu
Just to clafify Shawn, There seems to be more than one Greg on here. When I post it will be either Greg "FSTA" or FSTA ADMIN and highlighted with an email address. We value everyone opinions and idiea's and even a little constructive critisism
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Re: Rules -- Greg, 14:05:19 10/20/05 Thu
Shawn,
Telling you to go race L/S is not bashing. You coming on here and complaining (jumping on people that you disagree with) ALL the time about the rules that you don’t like because they don’t fit your future combination is bashing.
The comment was just a suggestion. In other words, build what you want, but then race where it is legal and stop trying to change rules to fit your one-of-a-kind combination.
It just may be time for you to step up to L/S.
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Re: Rules -- Greg "FSTA", 12:40:24 10/20/05 Thu
QUOTE Randy "I like the idea of a rules commitee.
So in other words, you think we should let the open class be wide open to any motor combo?"
I think with the Limited class in place the Open Class should be more open. I don't see the cars getting much faster than 5.0 - 5 teens due to the tire and suspension. I do think just like the Nitrous cars are limited to 2 kits so should be the size of the turbo's but allow the water and put them @ BB wieght. What do you guys think?
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Re: Rules -- Randy, 13:16:54 10/20/05 Thu
Ok, say the W/A intercoolers get voted in to the mix. What turbo size? I was on Turbonectics site and they have have a listing of several. I have heard a few numbers thrown around on sizes. Here is what they say..
80mm inducer; 3/8" quill; flow capacity capable of supporting up to 1,200 hp!
88mm inducer; 3/8" quill; flow capacity capable of supporting up to 1,500 hp!
91mm inducer; 7/16" quill; capable of supporting up to 1,600 hp!
Suggestions?
I would like to talk to a resource that is unbiased to FSTA or any power adder before I form my opinion. I just don't know enough about the forced induction power adders to make a call on this one.
I truly think if you make it wide open in the power plant aspect, it will kill the class.
YMMV
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Re: Rules -- Greg "FSTA", 13:46:31 10/20/05 Thu
Randy Quote:
"I would like to talk to a resource that is unbiased to FSTA or any power adder before I form my opinion. I just don't know enough about the forced induction power adders to make a call on this one."
OK, all in favor of Randy being charge of research say I !
No but really guys, this is whats it is going to take to make this work, so research and real world data. Not some 1 perfect pass in 30 degree temps but consistant data. Some rules will need tweaking and thats where the committe wil come in. Keeping the rule in tact but modifying to keep the playing field level. NHRA does it on a regular basis (ie: Fuel, Gears, Wing angle, even (safety issue)tire pressure.) Keep the idieas coming...Thanks for all of the support...
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Re: Rules -- Shawn, 14:50:05 10/20/05 Thu
Here is my opinion again.I know everyone is scared of turbos, but there are lots of factors that go with turbo size. Most people size their turbo to their cubic inch if you put a 106 on a 302 it would not ever do a burnout because it is so hard to spool up. If you put an 80 mm on a large cubic inch motor you are pissing in the wind because it won't make boost. How is someone that knows nothing about turbos going to learn everything in a week to inform us? Lawrence Conelly has been running turbo's for 15 years and does not know everything about them. Keep it open Kyle and Chip want to run their 3 kits let them, if someone wants a blower let them get a 1471 and we should be able to run any single turbo just maybe not 2. What is the difference between turbo and nitrous? I have a nitrous express book in front of me that says 1 fogger will produce an extra 1000 hp. You nitrous guys run 2 of them so what is the difference in 2000hp worth of nitrous or a turbo that can support 2400hp? If your big block will make 1000 on motor and you spray 2 kits that is 3000HP. The largest 106mm turbo will support 2400 that don't mean it will make that much, the same thing with nitrous. If you limit turbo or blower size we need to limit nitrous to 2 cheater plates.Now fair is fair right? I bet you nitrous guys don't want to hear that do you? Well I am going to run a turbo so I don't want to hear it either. I went by the current rules and bought any size single turbo a 106. You never had even 1 turbo car so why would you change the rules before one comes in? Now don't it look like an open motor and power adder rule makes more sense? We could sit in the meeting for weeks arguing about rules and when it is all said and done you are going to loose cars. If its open anyone can race and if you can't compete step down to the slower class.I do not think we need anyone in the meeting talking about forced induction unless it is Jim Oddy or Kenny Duttweiler, everyone that knows nothing about it will get misled, especially if they are against forced induction anyway.
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Re: Rules -- Greg "FSTA", 15:19:53 10/20/05 Thu
Shawn Quote:
" I went by the current rules and bought any size single turbo a 106. You never had even 1 turbo car so why would you change the rules before one comes in?"
You are correct, under the current 2005 rules below any size was allowed provided it was A/A and on race Fuel. One of the things I keep hearing is make it unlimited motor combos so we can race anywhere. Under the current FSTA rules you can go anywhere, but there are many places you can't go with Tall Decks, Big Chief heads, 3 Kits, 2 Carbs, A/W IC, etc. A current FSTA car can run in The Clash, TTT5, Prescott, Clobberthon TT5, and many others so it is not a case of building a car to fit just one place, it is the case of exsisting cars that were built years ago to fit certain places having to step back and regroup while allowing cars being built, able to pick where they want to race. Just my opinion though...
* Any single turbo or centrifugal supercharger
* Air to air intercooler/aftercooler only. No other aux. cooling devices allowed to cool air charge
* Alcohol allowed only on carbureted, non turbo/blown entries
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Re: Rules -- Shawn, 15:48:50 10/20/05 Thu
Those rules look great Greg. Just chance the alcohol carburetor part and I'll be ok. LOL
Yes we can race anywhere with the current rules but just not be competitive. Thats what I'm trying to get at.How about the conventional heads and any power adder? Thats the rules I like I just brought up any heads for those ford guys that want yates heads. Just consider me a guine pig on the alcohol carburated turbo thing. It was something different and really cheap to get into that should make good power, but not proven yet. Anyone in this class can go turbo if they want so think for others not just me. I thought turbos were really expensive like everyone else before I bought one.A new turbo and wastegate is cheaper than most people have in their nitrous, then you just need to build headers. You can ever run a junkie motor with a turbo and not blow it up. You don't need all the fancy parts like you do with blower or nitrous. Believe me I bought a 10 year old small block ford and freshened it up for this turbo change. Low dollar
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Re: Rules -- Greg (FSTA), 18:45:03 10/20/05 Thu
Shawn Quote:
"Yes we can race anywhere with the current rules but just not be competitive."
I would say we do pretty well, Kyle has traveled more than most of us with his Short deck stock suspension camaro and made a lot of people think twice. Some rules and classes have been modified because of the Bad9er. Now you add Catdog, Kyle Box, Mike Kurtz, Chip, John Flores,etc and you have a pretty quick bunch.
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Re: Rules -- Shawn, 19:09:44 10/20/05 Thu
Lets set up a match race with all of them, David wolf and Justin Curry. Not competative in other classes.Not trying to be an ass and nothing against any of these guys just trying to show you my point. With more open rules all of these guys would be on Wolf and Currys door.
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Re: Rules -- Randy, 18:18:17 10/20/05 Thu
"I have a nitrous express book in front of me that says 1 fogger will produce an extra 1000 hp. You nitrous guys run 2 of them so what is the difference in 2000hp worth of nitrous or a turbo that can support 2400hp? If your big block will make 1000 on motor and you spray 2 kits that is 3000HP."
Your logic is flawed all the way around. If you could get that kind of true power out of 2 kits, you would not have swapped.
I think if you want an unlimited deal, jump back over to Outlaw 10.5 since you know everything about nitrous, turbos and blowers.. All those guys should be easy pickens for guy with your knowledge..
People in glass houses should not cast stones..
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Re: Rules -- Shawn, 18:57:15 10/20/05 Thu
Read my post a little closer Randy. It basically says just because foggers are capable of making 2000hp don't mean they really do. Just because a turbo says it is capable of making 2400hp don't mean it really makes that much, its the same deal. I don't claim to know everything but I have ran nitrous for 10 years, blown alcohol for 3 years and I don't know shit about turbos but I'm learning more every day.I don't care what everyone votes, majority rules right? We just want to try and vote in some rules without being shut out. Try to vote in unlimited first, if nobody wants it then vote on something else right. I just don't understand what the second class is for if you want all kinds of limits on the first one? Hell just limit the first one to 5.50 and we will all index race thats how fast ya'll want it to be. You and Greg seem to have the rules made up before we go to a meeting so why even vote? All I am trying to get is a alcohol carb. with a turbo for cost and simplicity not to make 500 more hp. Everything else on my car fits the rules. My car is more street apearing than anything else in the class, I have conventional heads. I went with alcohol so I dont have to take my front seat out to run an intercooler or cut the front of my car all up to run an air to air. I guess noone did their homework before making the current rules. Brad Brand went 7.20 at 207mph with a single turbo on gas with an air to air intercooler at 3000lbs with regular o'l trickflow heads, but that was not on a true 10.5 with stock suspension.SEE I GOT YOU PEOPLE TALKING NOW! WHY WAS THIS BOARD SO DEAD UNTIL I SAID SOMETHING? MAYBE I SHOULD POST SOMETHING ON HERE EVERY DAY AND KEEP YA'LL ON YOUR FEET.
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Re: Rules -- prochargeds10, 20:01:55 10/20/05 Thu
shawn has a very good point about the hp levels of nirous+turbo,and blowers.
they say my blower is good to 1800hp, wish I could get all that!!!
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Re: Rules -- prochargeds10, 21:10:07 10/20/05 Thu
"Your logic is flawed all the way around. If you could get that kind of true power out of 2 kits, you would not have swapped"
same goes for the force induction stuff..
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Re: Rules -- Shawn, 02:18:48 10/21/05 Fri
Look at turbo Rob he has a single 106 fuel injected with a water intercooler and a 40,000 Bennet motor. He is in the 5 teen to 5.20 range.
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Re: Rules -- kenny, 05:15:04 10/21/05 Fri
all being said,it's not all about the tires and susp.anymore.it's about the ability to tune the msd digital boxs and boost controlers!do away with them and it puts it back to the original concept of the class,throwing all you got at a 10.9 tire and factory style susp.and HOPE IT HOLDS!!!
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Re: Rules -- Randy, 06:04:41 10/21/05 Fri
Ok, I can see this is really going nowhere fast..
I am not trying to dictate rules, I am trying to get myself educated on other technology so that I can make my own conclusions.
I found some info on turbos and posted it to here. I know people that run all types of power adders and am aware of what it takes to make power from either.
In my humble opinion, if you blow all of the rules out, this class will die. If you want an unlimited deal, go run Limited Street or something that has no rules on suspension or power adders.
As they say about opinions, they are like azzholes, everybody has one and some stink worse than others..
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Re: Did Shawn really say that a conventional headed rat makes 1000 on motor and 3000 on GAS??? -- questioning the call, 09:06:58 10/21/05 Fri
You guys are embarrassing us to the world.
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Re: Did Shawn really say that a conventional headed rat makes 1000 on motor and 3000 on GAS??? -- prochargeds10, 10:19:36 10/21/05 Fri
I think you missed the whole point.
questioning the call???
questioning your name,, leave it and join up!!
rules -- davis, 16:56:54 10/20/05 Thu
No wheelie bars is dumb some cant afford to brake stuff ........And Shawn I said it before you push hard for stuff to suit your needs ,and bashed us for wanting to run the 369 Yates motor with one kit ........Ya guys I know I talked up all the shit in the world but what can I say???????Im here again .......................must be a reason ...........I want to run my turd with yall .....I don't think a small ci motor should have to take weight with my heads but if it has to, to get voted in at least I can play ,but don't seem right ...I know money talks bs walks but my car is about as cheap as you can get for what it is most all parts was bought used and work good.......On the turbo stuff I don't have much knowledge on ,,,,,,but I know the turbo cars cost a lot to build and seem to kick all asses( if you can afford to build one) ..........Shawn I don't even know you and not bashing you but you are whining just as bad as I was 4 months ago so I hope you see the reason now .................But I do agree with you on anything goes on factory suspension lets just let the tires decide the winner for what they got and how they can learn to tune the ass end to hold the power and the drivers skills..........
NEW BOARD -- Greg "FSTA", 16:38:22 10/20/05 Thu
Go to www.Factorystreet.com and click on the NEW FSTA MEMBERS BOARD... Tell me what you think. Easier to follow threads.
FSTA NOV 5TH @ HMP -- Greg "FSTA", 15:28:22 10/19/05 Wed
RULES MEETING -- JASON, 06:16:37 10/19/05 Wed
what time will the rules meeting be held, and can i pay membership dues at the meeting?
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Re: RULES MEETING -- Greg "FSTA", 13:36:16 10/19/05 Wed
Rules meeting will start @ 1PM SHARP in the drivers meeting room ... There is a lot to discuss and many idiea's to go over. Yes, you can pay dues at the meeting.. See you there....
rules discussion -- board swinger, 07:17:20 10/19/05 Wed
there is a nice rules discussion on the centex board!!!
Midnight Madness this Saturday! FSTA Cars Invited! -- Freddy, 15:00:38 10/18/05 Tue
Here is a list of racers that will be comming this saturday night to San Antonio Raceway and competing in the extreme class that is 100% pay back plus $100.00 dollars.
This is not a race with big payouts but is a great start for a local race track trying to support its local racers.
Updated List:
Team Medina
Team castro
Traci laursen
Jesse Munoz
Brad Lind
Orange Power House
The killer supra
John Flores
Tracy Hoyt-I have not confirmed but would bet money on it.
Greg Wright
Porf Diaz
Randy David - Maybe - Lets hope!
John Albarado
We just need 3 more to get the biggest field ever at a Midnight madness or Little pooch!
Thank our Sponsors for this weekend -- makurtz, 06:54:29 09/16/05 Fri
When you see John Huetell or John Romano this weekend, be sure to give them a big FSTA "Thanks" for sponsoring our Max Impact purse!
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What did John Romano have to do with the purse? John Huettel wrote the check. -- HUH?, 17:07:10 09/16/05 Fri
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Thanks for your concern John Mandabach -- IP Tracker, 18:09:17 09/16/05 Fri
But Mr Romano put up 1/2 of the purse for this weekends FSTA event. Nice to see you frequent our site.
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Nope, not John Mandabach but nice try though. Might want to improve your IP Checker! -- I can reroute anywhere. ping..ping ain'tt a thing.., 13:54:06 10/18/05 Tue
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