As recently as late 1800s, folk were ice skating on the Thames - in London, no less, during the most notoriously polluted periods for that fine city. In the desert, not but a few hundred miles from where you live, spoot, lies the remains of a once thriving community that relied on agriculture in the surrounding area. There is growing evidence that there was once a vast and complex civilization living in what is now the Brazilian rainforest - apparently was once a much more varied landscape. While we should be concerned about the relatively short-term impacts of our sojourn on this planet, Gaia has endured and thrived under mush worse than we can do, barring Dr. Strangelove events. Fond hope is that we will soon find a way to plant our flag on another globe, and not have all oour eggs in one planetary basket. The gestalt is that the old mother is constantly changing - our short span on this globe is hardly an indication; contrary to Alberti, man is not the measure of all things. -- Eddie Pedantic Gasbag Discussion Group

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Date Posted: 00:59:41 06/23/01 Sat
Author: gumtree (listening to Praetorius, pardon my quote...)
Subject: As recently as late 1800s, folk were ice skating on the Thames - in London, no less, during the most notoriously polluted periods for that fine city. In the desert, not but a few hundred miles from where you live, spoot, lies the remains of a once thriving community that relied on agriculture in the surrounding area. There is growing evidence that there was once a vast and complex civilization living in what is now the Brazilian rainforest - apparently was once a much more varied landscape. While we should be concerned about the relatively short-term impacts of our sojourn on this planet, Gaia has endured and thrived under mush worse than we can do, barring Dr. Strangelove events. Fond hope is that we will soon find a way to plant our flag on another globe, and not have all oour eggs in one planetary basket. The gestalt is that the old mother is constantly changing - our short span on this globe is hardly an indication; contrary to Alberti, man is not the measure of all things.
In reply to: spoot 's message, "Oh but the earth has been recording temperatures for millions of years, in ice layers, in tree rings, etc. and no the earth may have had periods of similar warming but Man and this civilization has not. It doesn't take much to turn the prairies into desert and then what happens to our agriculture? Life will survive this warming but our system?" on 00:25:20 06/23/01 Sat

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...incidentally, you had made mention that a certain period of history was your favorite - I majored in Renaissance and Interregnum Britain. The recording Im listening to is from the Virgin "Veritas Edition" - David Munrow and the Early Music Consort of London playing Michael Praetorius (1571-1621) - Dances from Terpsicore and Motets. I recommend it highly, if youre into it. (NT) -- gumtree(referent obscurantes maximus est), 01:13:02 06/23/01 Sat
- Renaissance - is that the Elizabethan period? Michael Pretorius, I must make a note of that. I used to histen to Purcell a lot. A little later period? (NT) -- spoot, 01:23:45 06/23/01 Sat
  - I think the album I used to have was Purcell's "The Moor's Pavanne" (NT) -- spoot, 01:39:33 06/23/01 Sat
    - Yes, Renaissance covered the Tudors entirely...Interregnum was Charles I (the Unfortunate), Cromwell and that lot...Purcell was more in the period after the Glorious Revolution, where William of Orange was invited to become King of England, once everyone got thoroughly fed up with the Stuarts trying to re-establish Rome as the Head of the Church in England. (NT) -- gumtree (heading for bed), 02:08:42 06/23/01 Sat
  - If I can work it out, praps I can send you a sound bite sometime soon.... (NT) -- gumtree, 02:13:12 06/23/01 Sat
    - Okay thanks, nighty nite! (NT) -- spoot, 02:29:18 06/23/01 Sat
Reminds me of the Carlin bit...she'll shake us off like a bad case of fleas! (NT) -- DoBee, 20:38:11 06/23/01 Sat