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Date Posted: 06:12:37 11/28/02 Thu
Author: Êðîò
Subject: Äèñêóñ³ÿ ïî æèäàì. ˳áåðàëè? - ö³êàâà òåìà...

Ç ³íòåðåñîì ïðî÷èòàâ äèñêóñ³þ ïî æèäàì. Íàæàëü îðèã³íàëüíó òåìó ñïðîáóâàâ ðîç’ÿñíèòè ò³ëüêè ³òàë³é, òà íåâäàëî. :( Òàëìóä³âñüêà àäðåñà íå âàíòàæèòüñÿ äîñ³, ïðèíàéì³ â ìåíå. ² âñå îäíî, ö³êàâî ðîçãëÿäàòè ôàêòè, à íå ìåòó ç ÿêîþ âîíè ïîäàþòüñÿ. Íå ìîæíà íå ïîãîäèòèñü ç Òðåéòÿêîì, ùî ðîáèòè öå òðåáà âñåá³÷íî.

Áàãàòî ùî äèâóº. Îñîáëèâî ÿêàñü äèâíà “ïîá³÷íà îá’ºêòèâí³ñòü” äåÿêèõ ó÷àñíèê³â. “Óÿâè, ùî áè òè â³ä÷óâ íà éîãî ì³ñö³”. Âàì íå çäàºòüñÿ, ïàíîâå, ùî öå óùåðáíà ëîã³êà? ßê ³ àíòèëþäñüê³ ³äå¿ “íºïðîò³âëºí³ÿ çëó”.

Ïðè÷îìó, ÿê “ëàéíî” íåãàéíî ñïðèéìàþòüñÿ ñàìå ò³ ðå÷³ (÷àñòî é î÷åâèäí³ ôàêòè), ÿê³ ìîæóòü ïðèâåñòè äî òîãî ùî “íåãðè íèæ÷à ðàñà” àáî “æèäè àãðåñèâíà íàö³ÿ” ³ ò.ï..

Ðàçîì ñêëàäàºòüñÿ âðàæåííÿ, ùî ìè (äåõòî ç íàñ) ÿêîñü íåâ³ëüíî çàëåæèì â³ä Ðóñêàâà ͺáà. ×è íå òàê? ßê ìè ñåáå â³ä÷óºìî íà ì³ñö³ ÿêîãîñü ãóðòó ïºäîô³ëîâ ÷è ìàíüÿêîâ êîëè øîâ³í³ñòè÷íå ͺáî “ðîçêðèòèêóº” ¿õ? ß íå àíòèñåì³ò, àëå ââàæàþ, ùî òðåáà äóìàòè ñàìîìó ³ ãîëîâîþ. Áî ïîðó÷ ç ö³ì ã³âíîì, Âè ñ쳺òåñü íàä Þѳâñüêèìè ÐÑ-äîãìàìè… Îäíà÷å ñèìâîë³÷íî.

² âñåæ ìîæå â êîãî âàíòàæèòüñÿ òîé Òàëìóä?! Ñïðàâä³ äóæå ö³êàâî.

------Òðåéòÿê------

˳áåðàëè. Òåìà ñïðàâä³ ö³êàâà. ² ÷àñòêîâî çìóøåí ïîãîäèòèñü ç Ìàðòîþ. Àëå ùîá ðîçãëÿäàòè ïðîáëåìó òðåáà ïîðîçóì³òèñü â òåðì³íîëî㳿. Áî ïàì'ÿòàþ êàçàâ îäíîìó óêðà¿íñüêîìó ë³áåðàëó ïðî ë³áåðàë³çì ÷àñ³â ÓÍÐ. ßê ÿ é ÷åêàâ, ó â³äïîâ³äü â³í çàâîïèâ ïðî ñîö³àë³ñò³â.

Êîëè êàæó "ë³áåðàë³çì", äóìàþ íàñàìïåðåä íå ïðî ÷³òêî îêðåñëåíó ³äåîëîã³÷íî-ïîë³òè÷íó òå÷³þ, à ìàþ íà óâàç³ á³ëüøå ÷èíí³ ïðîÿâè.  ò.÷. íàäì³ðí³ ³ äî øê³äëèâîñò³ çàéâ³ ïðîÿâè òîëåðàíòíîñò³, ïîáëàæëèâîñò³.

Çâè÷àéíî óêðà¿íåöü ìîæå áóòè ë³áåðàëîì, àëå ÍÅ ÌÀª ¿ì áóòè !

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