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Subject: That email to Campbell Centre


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Mirage
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Date Posted: 15:07:19 07/27/01 Fri

Where is it!?!!?
Come on guys lets get this signed up :D

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FB
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Date Posted: 23:32:20 07/27/01 Fri

Fade has it done, he just hasnt uploaded it yet..

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[> [> Subject: Re: That email to Campbell Centre


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Fade
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Date Posted: 23:44:40 07/27/01 Fri

Amella,

We would like to hold a large computer gaming event in the Logan Campbell Center, with around 800 people there. We will be running with people awake for 24hours a day but during the evening, night and early morning it will be closed to the public. We will be providing for the people attending a seat at a table, access to a network that we will be providing, access to a power grid that we will have set up. Also we plan on providing a place where the attendees will be able to purchase coffee (iced/hot) and food (especially pizza). Also we are aware of the need for security and fire wardens and are looking at having both or combined onsite during

here are a couple of issues that we would like to resolve with you..

1. We need to be able to let the gamers eat at there seats, also we still do not believe that the caterers are able to provide the services that we require. How ever if they are willing to provide pizza of any sort made in about 20mins for the same price as pizza hut we would be willing to look into them further.

2. We are renting the hall for over 60 hours so we need to be able to let people sleep on the floors.

3. 2 Fire wardens @ $15 per hour, we may use yours of get security that also doubles as a fire warden.

4. We have the $2000 deposit for you but is there any incentive for us to pay you all the rent money upfront?

5. Is the week earlier still available if we pay you the bond money now?

6. We would like a complete list of what you do for cleaning of the center.

7. (need to add pictures.)



Ok that is a rough outline of it… add and change what needs to be done. Also I am not sure about the correct spelling of her name, Mirage can you check that against the name on the card she gave you?

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FB
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Date Posted: 23:57:28 07/27/01 Fri

Amelia,

We would like to use the Logan Campbell Center as a venue for our computer gaming event, which will consist of about 800 computers and attendees.
It will be a 24hour event, meaning there will be attendees active all through the night, although the event will only be open to the public during the day.
We are looking at seating the 800 people banquit (sp?) style, and are going to be providing each seat with power and computer network cables which we will have setup.
We also plan on providing an area where attendees can purchase coffee and other beverages, and food (especially pizza)
We are aware of the need for security and fire wardens and are looking at having both, or combined onsite throughout the event.

here are a couple of issues that we would like to resolve with you..

1. We need to be able to let the gamers eat at there seats, also we still do not believe that the caterers are able to provide the services that we require. How ever if they are willing to provide pizza of any sort made in about 20mins for the same price as pizza hut we would be willing to look into them further.

2. We are renting the hall for over 60 hours so we need to be able to let people sleep on the floors.

3. 2 Fire wardens @ $15 per hour, we may use yours or get security that also doubles as a fire warden.

4. We have the $2000 deposit for you but is there any incentive for us to pay you all the rent money upfront?

5. Is the week earlier still available if we pay you the bond money now?

6. We would like a complete list of what you do for cleaning of the center.

7. (need to add pictures.)

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: That email to Campbell Centre


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fb
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Date Posted: 23:59:28 07/27/01 Fri

we should also put "We are aware of the safety issues of having so many electrical devices and cables in an area that needs to have clear walking areas and fire exits"

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[> Subject: Re: That email to Campbell Centre


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Zues
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Date Posted: 01:01:02 07/28/01 Sat

Ok who is on the email I know thats not part of what im doing I think that Fade(Hunter) was going to do that ill ring him and get the low down on that cause that has to be done asap.
Mirage you still havent told me what you want me to do in terms of Carlton ok ill tell you what im going to do im gonna go to them and sort it for the labour weekend ok ill get them to drop it off say friday morning at about 1am if we can do that it would be the best and pick up at say 7pm on monday night this way we only have to pay for one days hire and that came out to be about 2151 i think the total price was and say another 200 for the driver at that time in the morning.

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[> Subject: Re: That email to Campbell Centre


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Zues
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Date Posted: 01:04:19 07/28/01 Sat

Opps sorry I did not refresh the friggen page ok so fade has done it sorry and ill ask if Carlton want to sponser the event. :)

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[> Subject: Re: That email to Campbell Centre


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FB
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Date Posted: 01:06:39 07/28/01 Sat

Put carlton in its own thread nick.

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[> Subject: Re: That email to Campbell Centre


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swat
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Date Posted: 01:52:13 07/28/01 Sat

zues plse use punctuation....

fades spelling is one thing, but basic punctuation would be nice

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[> Subject: Re: That email to Campbell Centre


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Mirage
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Date Posted: 13:29:21 07/28/01 Sat

Hi Mrs Franich, (her real name is Amelia)


As discussed, we would like to hold a large computer gaming event in the Logan Campbell Center, with around 800 people there late October. We will be running with people awake for 24hours a day but during the evening, night and early morning it will be closed to the public.

We will be providing for the people attending a seat at a table, access to a network that we will be providing, access to a power grid that we will have set up. The attendees will be bringing their own computers to the event.

Also we plan on providing a place where the attendees will be able to purchase coffee (iced/hot) and food (especially pizza). Also we are aware of the need for security and fire wardens and are looking at having both or combined onsite during

Here are a couple of issues that we would like to resolve with you before bond is paid:

1.. We need to be able to let the gamers eat at there seats. We still do not believe that the caterers are able to provide the services that we require. However if they are willing to provide pizza of any sort made in about 20mins for the same price as Pizza Hut (i.e., a large pizze for under $10) or a burger for $3.50 we would be willing to look into them further.

2.. We are renting the hall for over 3 days (including 1 half price pack-in day) so we need to be able to let people sleep on the floors near their equipment.

3. We feel that the LCC intends to make a large profit from our power usage. 17cents per kilowatt hour (instead of the quoted 22 cents per kilowatt hour) is a more fair commercial price. We would like to negotiate the cost of the power for our event - to encourage the possibility of future events.

3.. 2 Fire wardens @ $15 per hour, we may use yours or get security that also doubles as a fire warden.

4.. We have the $2000 deposit for you upfront and ready but is there any incentive for us to pay you all the rent money upfront? We understand that the daily cost is $3730 + gst for the Sat and Sun. The Friday is a pack-in day at half price at $1865 + gst. The total cost of the 3 days is $9325 + gst.

5. Is the week earlier still available if we pay you the bond money now? i.e., 19, 20, 21 October 2001.

6. We would like a complete list of what you offer for cleaning of the center.

7. If you go to the following website - you will see an image of what is planned
http://www.lan-arena.com/

Kind Regards,
Gamer Network Ltd.

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[> Subject: Re: That email to Campbell Centre


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Ard Righ
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Date Posted: 17:14:00 07/28/01 Sat

I think the deal with the catering company is a bit off. I hope they dont expect us to pay extra to use the company caterers, and then have to pay for expensive shit food on top.

We don't pay a pizza shop for the honour of buying from them, and then pay for the food. Same goes for the caterers.

If the Logan Campbell Centre forces us to use the company caterer, it should either be included in the rental, or the food will be dirt cheap.

Otherwise tell everyone to eat outside, and ask Pizza Hutt if they are interested...

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[> Subject: Re: That email to Campbell Centre


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FB
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Date Posted: 11:26:52 07/29/01 Sun

Ok, so is that it finalised?
Im ok with that last one Mirage posted if you guys are..

If so, lets go get it sorted for good...

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[> Subject: Re: That email to Campbell Centre


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Mirage
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Date Posted: 13:50:44 07/30/01 Mon

I thought Fade sent it to her on Saturday

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Date Posted: 17:28:44 07/30/01 Mon

oh - fade... did you send it ?
updates?

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FB
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Date Posted: 11:41:30 07/31/01 Tue

yes it has been sent, awaiting reply and update from fade..

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[> Subject: Re: That email to Campbell Centre


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Mirage
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Date Posted: 13:49:23 07/31/01 Tue

Ok well I got super impatient today, so I called Amelia. We went thru the list on the email.

The reason she hasnt replied yet is that she is waiting for her caterers to get back to her.

I told her that we had a meeting this weekend, that we would prob come in with a cheque on Monday or Tuesday next week. We have to sign a contract there.

Here are some facts:

(i) She did not offer half price pack-in day but because we were quoted by the other staff member there she is willing to honour it.

(ii) Deposit = $1865 + gst

(iii) Sleeping is okay under computers provided that fire safety is there around the clock. Must have fire safety certificates.

(iv) The labour weekend before is no longer available. We need that extra week for ticket sales anyway.

(v) They are not willing to budge on power costs. In fact apparently if the price goes up or down - we are liable to pay the difference. They use "Vector" power and not Mercury. We are permitted to source outside power - i.e., generators for not just backup but primary power. That could work out cheaper.

(vi) One month before event must pay full price of rental + 2000 (+gst) bond. Must have public liability insurance for $1,000,000 (I will take care of insurance)

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[> Subject: Re: That email to Campbell Centre


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Mirage
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Date Posted: 19:48:37 07/31/01 Tue

Hunter,

I confirm details of your booking as follows:

Rental $11,190.00 + GST Plus bond of $2,000.00 + GST.

In talking to your colleague this morning, he advised that Tania
who you initially spoke to, had incorrectly offered the build day at half price.
As I assumed she had done this in good faith I was prepared to stand by that
quote. However, she has given me a copy of her e-mail to you and in fact
she quoted the correct price of $3,730.00 + GST per day. and had not
suggested that any prep day would be at half the normal rate.
(See her e-mail to you of 25 May and your reply on 28 May 2001.

I do not believe you will be able to accommodate 800 persons and their
computers in the auditorium and I look forward to receiving a plan of your layout.

Regarding the other matters included in your e-mail of 28 July, I
would advise as follows:

1. I have spoken to our catering manager and she has advised that she is
happy to open the kiosk between 10 am and 2.00pm and between the
hours of 5.00pm to 8.00pm. This would cover lunch and dinner times.
If you wished to order in pizzas at times other than these that would
be OK.

2. Although I would prefer not to have people sleep in tÿ

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FB
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Date Posted: 19:49:38 07/31/01 Tue

ok pritty much sounds all good

she didnt say anything about benefits from paying all money now ?

yeah we had the idea of generators before, we were waiting to look into it

a) where would we put it /them
b) how much would all the fuel cost
c) how loud
d) is it 3 phased
e) is it regulated

e.t.c

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Mirage
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Date Posted: 19:51:06 07/31/01 Tue

Hunter,

I confirm details of your booking as follows:

Rental $11,190.00 + GST Plus bond of $2,000.00 + GST.

In talking to your colleague this morning, he advised that Tania
who you initially spoke to, had incorrectly offered the build day at half price.
As I assumed she had done this in good faith I was prepared to stand by that
quote. However, she has given me a copy of her e-mail to you and in fact
she quoted the correct price of $3,730.00 + GST per day. and had not
suggested that any prep day would be at half the normal rate.
(See her e-mail to you of 25 May and your reply on 28 May 2001.

I do not believe you will be able to accommodate 800 persons and their
computers in the auditorium and I look forward to receiving a plan of your layout.

Regarding the other matters included in your e-mail of 28 July, I
would advise as follows:

1. I have spoken to our catering manager and she has advised that she is
happy to open the kiosk between 10 am and 2.00pm and between the
hours of 5.00pm to 8.00pm. This would cover lunch and dinner times.
If you wished to order in pizzas at times other than these that would
be OK.

2. Although I would prefer not to have people sleep in the centre, as long as
there is sufficient security and safety wardens this would be permitted.
As regards security, our catering manager was employed at the
Lakeside Convention Centre and during her time there they had
several gaming events such as yours. These were not without their problems
and it appears that both indoor and outdoor security are required. A minimum
of 3 outside and probably 4 inside. Please discuss this with me.

3. At current power rates our standard power cost of 0.22 cents would apply.
However, any increase in power charges would be passed on to you as hirer.

4. A minimum of 2 Fire Safety Wardens is required. If you use security staff
as fire wardens they would need to supply proof that they are in fact qualified
fire safety personnel and would need to act in this capacity only during
the hours of your event.

5. The full rental and bond are payable as follows: 20% of rental to secure
the booking and balance of rental plus bond payable 1 month prior to your
event.

6. Weekend of 19 - 21 October 2001 is not available.

7. Cleaning within the Centre during your event is your responsibility Highrise
Cleaning Services Phone 377 7518 are familiar with the centre and will be
able to give you cleaning costs if you wish to contract your cleaning.

If you have any questions, please give me a call on 623 7691.

Regards

Amelia Franich

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[> Subject: Re: That email to Campbell Centre


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FB
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Date Posted: 19:56:33 07/31/01 Tue

excellent, ok
so next things that need to be done:
we need to sort out a finalised floor plan (well, as finalised as we can get.. we also need to get from sponsors what sorta space they want / require / whatever..)

we need to contact cleaners and work that into budget if required

price generators..

sort out fire / security wardens

we can have pizza hut then? :DDDD
lets get in contact with them then

also, she (tania) had offered the 1/2 price pack in verbally only..

im gonna post all this in a seperate thread for neatness

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[> Subject: Re: That email to Campbell Centre


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swat
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Date Posted: 23:14:50 08/03/01 Fri

pizza hut was my idea way back....

i dont know if i could make it work in the time we have....

we need to get moving!!!!

Mirage if you can get that info on generators off qoke for the meeting that would be l33t.

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[> Subject: Re: That email to Campbell Centre


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Mirage
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Date Posted: 11:58:00 08/07/01 Tue


Hi Amelia,

We appreciate your patience regarding our booking. I have replied to the points below:

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2001 Jul 31 - 16:43
Amelia Franich
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>I confirm details of your booking as follows:
>
>Rental $11,190.00 + GST Plus bond of $2,000.00 + GST.
>
>In talking to your colleague this morning, he advised that Tania
>who you initially spoke to, had incorrectly offered the build day at half price.
>As I assumed she had done this in good faith I was prepared to stand by that
>quote. However, she has given me a copy of her e-mail to you and in fact
>she quoted the correct price of $3,730.00 + GST per day. and had not
>suggested that any prep day would be at half the normal rate.
>(See her e-mail to you of 25 May and your reply on 28 May 2001.

We have re-evaluated our situation based on a full price pack-in day. We would now like to rent the Logan Campbell Centre on 27th and and 28th of October only.

Rental $7460 + GST Plus bond of $2,000.00 + GST

>I do not believe you will be able to accommodate 800 persons and their
>computers in the auditorium and I look forward to receiving a plan of your layout.

We are working on the plan of our layout now that we have made reservations with Carlton Party Hire. We have hired 225 * 2.4m long tables. which will be layed out in rows in the main auditorium, on the stage and also the upstairs of the foyer.

>Regarding the other matters included in your e-mail of 28 July, I
>would advise as follows:
>
>1. I have spoken to our catering manager and she has advised that she is
> happy to open the kiosk between 10 am and 2.00pm and between the
> hours of 5.00pm to 8.00pm. This would cover lunch and dinner times.
> If you wished to order in pizzas at times other than these that would
> be OK.

This sounds fair. I now ask whether we can open (for example) a Starbucks trolley selling coffee during the times that the catering kiosk is not open.

>2. Although I would prefer not to have people sleep in the centre, as long as
> there is sufficient security and safety wardens this would be permitted.
> As regards security, our catering manager was employed at the
> Lakeside Convention Centre and during her time there they had
> several gaming events such as yours. These were not without their problems
> and it appears that both indoor and outdoor security are required. A minimum
> of 3 outside and probably 4 inside. Please discuss this with me.

We will arrange for security/admins to partrol inside and outside.

>3. At current power rates our standard power cost of 0.22 cents would apply.
> However, any increase in power charges would be passed on to you as hirer.

Is this the current power rates? It was my understanding that 0.17 cents was the commercial rate on the national power grid. We assumed (I know assumptions are a mistake) that the Showgrounds charged 0.22 cents because you may have had a fixed rate arrangement with the power company. We didn't want to think that the Showgrounds were marking up the power price 0.05 cents.

>4. A minimum of 2 Fire Safety Wardens is required. If you use security staff
> as fire wardens they would need to supply proof that they are in fact qualified
> fire safety personnel and would need to act in this capacity only during
> the hours of your event.

Understood! A minimum of 2 Fire Safety Wardens are required. Am I correct that we can arrange these through you @ $15 per hour?

>5. The full rental and bond are payable as follows: 20% of rental to secure
> the booking and balance of rental plus bond payable 1 month prior to your
> event.

The deposit is now $1492 + GST correct? You mentioned that we would need to sign a contract at this stage. Are you able to provide details of this contract? Is this the same contract as the 4 page contract that was provided earlier?

>6. Weekend of 19 - 21 October 2001 is not available.

We are still keen on weekend 27th, 28th of October.

>7. Cleaning within the Centre during your event is your responsibility Highrise
> Cleaning Services Phone 377 7518 are familiar with the centre and will be
> able to give you cleaning costs if you wish to contract your cleaning.

We will contact them.

Thanks Amelia!

Kind Regards,
Neal Thompson
Gamer Network Ltd.

>If you have any questions, please give me a call on 623 7691.

>Regards
>
>Amelia Franich
>
>
>

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