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Subject: Reasonable Service Places/Prices


Author:
Henry Claeys
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Date Posted: 06/ 26/ 03, 9:24am

(1) Are there any middle class, perhaps lower middle class, bird owners out there that can afford to maitain a Bluebird? If so, how do you do it? (2) As I approach a final decision on the purchase of a 1979 F35, I am envisioning the practical everyday problems of finding, I mean physically locating without an act of God, service at reasonable prices. For example, when it's time for an oil change and lube, can I go to your typical oil change place, i.e., Walmart or GreaseMonkey, or do I have to locate a an 18 wheeler service center and pay a minimum $100.00 "howdy" charge. I imagine that most of those truck places deal primarily with companies that are in business and are used to paying top dollar for "service now." I, on the other hand, 'am not a corporation and can't afford to be shelling out $500.00 here and there for simple service. (4) Another example: A "simple flat tire." The bird doesn't carry a spare so what to do if you get a flat out in the Boonies, or anywhere. It looks to me like I could be out hundreds just to fix a flat! (5) Any input appreciated...Henry at claeys@rgv.net

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L Longcrier
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Date Posted: 07/ 3/ 03, 11:21am

I would not trust just any grease Monky to change My oil, Most of the cut rate places are not equipped to do the job correctly. If there is a Speedco near you I think you will find that they have all the filters needed and the experteese required to do the job. otherwise it is a case of doing the job yourself. Filters can be obtained from NAPA! My last change included all filters, checking the transmission fluid, changing all three fuel filters, the Air filter, the transmission filter, and checking the rear end, total lube of all chasis points. My bill was 139.00 dollars. Due to this being a total service there was no charge for the Air filter. (usualy $66.00 from the local NAPA dealer.) The 3208T CAT uses 20 quarts of oil, so the total cost isn't too bad.

L. Longcrier
M1894@AOL.com

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Henry Claeys
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Date Posted: 07/ 7/ 03, 1:21am

Dear L. Longcrier: I thank you for your response. For one, it shows me that there really are other bird owners who care enough to communicate and help out fellow bird owners. That makes me feel better as I face joining the vintage bird family. I like doing my own work but my bird doesn't have the owner's manual. Other than blindly searching, how am I going to find out where all filters and grease fittigs are?

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L. Longcrier
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Date Posted: 07/ 11/ 03, 4:14pm

Filter numbers can be read off of the current filters. as for grease fittings they are located at the tie rod ends, and the king pin ends. don't forget to check the differential oil level. The front wheel bearings are under your front hub caps. pull the rubber plug and check for fluid level. My bird is a 1984FC, and I don't know if my manual's will apply to your unit. Contact Me at M1894@AOL.com if a copy would do you. Let me know what sections you need, and I can make you a copy.


L.Longcrier

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[> Subject: Re: Reasonable Service Places/Prices


Author:
Steve Anderson
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Date Posted: 07/ 5/ 03, 9:48am

Henry, The Blue Bird Wanderlodges are/were high end RV's. they were made for folks who had their mainteance and repairs done by factory or authorized repair centers, hang the cost, it just wasn't a factor. Now 25 years later these coaches are becoming affordable to those of us who like the retro styling and the feel of the high quality coach that they are. Wanderlodge coaches are built with high quality materials and systems such as furnaces, air-conditioners, water systems, air& hydralic systems, and electronics. These systems are generally very reliable and trouble free, but when repairs are required, having the coaches repaired or worked on by profesionals is expensive. Most owners of "Vintage Birds" are mechanically capable and like to make most repairs, or do most maintenance themselves. My suggestion to you, is to seriously consider your financial capabilities to maintain, repair, one of these coaches before you buy. If the cost of a $100 oil change is troubling and you do not feel capable of, or willing to perform this minor maintenance yourself a 79 BB is not for you in my opinion.
One should consider that in the realm of motorhomes, BB's are very high on the quality list. There are not many 1979 "Stick and Staple" motorhomes out there still on the road. There are even fewer that are even worth owning, but that aside, ANY motorhome is going to have maintenance costs. If you have to have the oil changed for your BB you will also have to have it changed in your Wienerbego. Furnaces, electrical systems, water systems, electronics are more likely to fail in less expensive mh's simply because of the quality of the original components. These items will fail on less expensive coaches too and you will still have to "hire" out repairs. In my mind, BB's, even older ones are a better buy for the same money in coach ownership, but a newby to vintage birds should have a clear vision what he is getting into. Most experinced bird owners will give the advice to new bird buyers: no matter what bird you are considering you should set aside a cash reserve of $10,000 for maintenance, repair, and upgrades. I believe that that is a realistic figure, especially for purchase of a 79 Bird.

Just some ramblings from one who has been there.

Steve Anderson
79 FC 35
Poulsbo, Wa.

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Henry Claeys
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Date Posted: 07/ 7/ 03, 1:25am

Dear Steve: Does it make any difference, when deciding how much to estimate for repairs/remodeling, if I told you that the seller just spent $20,000.00 having a new engine put in, along with having the transmission, engine A/C, and Kohler 12.5 KW generator rebuilt?

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Henry Claeys
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Date Posted: 07/ 7/ 03, 1:29am

Dear Steve: Does it make any difference, when deciding how much to estimate for repairs/remodeling, if I told you that the seller just spent $20,000.00 having a new engine put in, along with having the transmission, engine A/C, and Kohler 12.5 KW generator rebuilt?

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Henry Claeys
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Date Posted: 07/ 7/ 03, 1:44am

This is my second response to your long, but excellent, message. Although I am not rich, it is within my means and ability to perform "minor" repairs, oil changes, or spending $300 for an oil/lube job at a big truck stop. What really is going on with me is that I'm comparing travel trailer owenership with bird ownership. As long as I stay with a trailer that's around 32 feet long, I can pull it with a 3/4 ton van or pick up. Maintenance on the tow vehicle is reasonable, and, after all, the tow vehicle can be replaced, and the trailer has few parts to go wrong. Not only is this my first bird purchase, but it's my first crossing over to the motorhome world. I guess I'm out of my environment and accordingly nervous. Hopefully I'll hear from you again, but if I don't, I really want to thank you for your lenthy reply because I sense that it is right on point!

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Bill Schreurs
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Date Posted: 10/ 11/ 07, 4:50pm

Henry:
I sometimes come here and peruse what this forum has to say.
There are three other forums related to BB Wanderlodges, I do not know if you know of them. They are in the yahoo groups Wanderlodge, WanderlodgeForum and FC-Wanderlodge.

I have found a decent shop to help me with all of my work, not only that he lets me help the mechanic, I have learned lots as well as having a big shop to work out of.

And yes, there are a few middle to lower class people who own these lovely pieces of machinery, albeit that they are the older ones

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[> Subject: Re: Reasonable Service Places/Prices


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Eddie Ray
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Date Posted: 10/ 27/ 07, 4:17am

I seem to have been in your same situation at one time, and with a lot of self teaching here is what I have found out... keep in mind I do not know your physcial location, but here is what I did in South Florida.

I started about 2 years ago wanting an RV... it took some convincing my wife, but now that we are into it she had rather be on the bus that to be at home.

We started with a Holiday Rambler 36' with 4 slides... after one trip to New Mexico we decided we wanted a bigger and heavier coach and we landed in a '98 Wanderlodge with NO slides.

Service and maintaince was a great concern of mine also, and I tried several avenues... some were ok, some were not... then I joined a local chapter of the FMCA and the information poured in from other members... I now have found a repair facility that is GOOD, and that was from input from the members.

As for the tire, get a road side service program... Good Sam has a good one in my opinion... they have come to me for flat tires, (and those tires had just lost air) and once for a jump start... I hope this is of some help... if you want more about what we did I will be more than happy to answer any questions you might have.

Good Luck
ER

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