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Subject: breaker locations


Author:
Hank Parker (help)
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Date Posted: 10/ 6/ 07, 1:09pm

I have a 1991 Wondrlodge 40'. Seems some one was turning power off and own outside my barn. Problem is front half of my bus is dead, and I can't find any breakers other than in the bedroom panel. Can't even open generator, switch is also dead. Can generator be cranked out manually. All help appreciated. Thanks Hank

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Subject: Calebtlb


Author:
Tomzkd (Calebtlb)
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Date Posted: 10/ 2/ 07, 3:26pm

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Subject: Body Trim


Author:
John Peters (1981 35'FC)
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Date Posted: 11/ 12/ 06, 6:27am

Greetings! We have just finished a restoration on a 1981 35 foot FC. I am looking for a piece of trim for the front of the bus - the 3' to 4' or so chrome screw cover that borders between the top and botton radiator grills. Does anyone have or know of a place to find this type of trim Thanks, John Peters.

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Subject: Water pressure problem


Author:
Robert Payne (HELP)
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Date Posted: 11/ 8/ 06, 3:06am

We have an 1984 FC 35 and after putting water in our tank
there is no water coming from the faucets. Water is flowing through the Jabsco pump (as we disconnected the outgoing line) but only a drip from the fixtures. The pump continues to run when switched on. Also only a small stream when using city water and you can hear water running in the water
tank area. The water fill switch clicks as normal when it is turned off or on. What should we check?
Regards:
Robert Payne

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[> Subject: Re: Water pressure problem


Author:
Scott B
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Date Posted: 10/ 10/ 06, 8:57am

Robert, There can be a few reasons for this to happen but most frequently it is the spolan valve. In our 86FCRB the sporlan valve is under the driver side bed. Many times the diaphram gets a small piece of crud, (calcium whatever) or the diaphram may be worn out. NOT a problem, first of all I would switch the valve off/on several times with a small amount of pressure on the line and perhaps the crud will clear. If not you can take the valve apart without too much work and clean it, or you may need to buy a rebuild kit for it.

As with most of the repairs I perform on our coach, I feel it is pretty easy to repair correctly, and forget about it, than to "rig" it only to have a problem at the most inconvienent time. I you are going to have the valve out why not rebuild it?

Effectively, what is happening is the sporlan is not closing properly and allowing water to by-pass back to the tank, not allowing a pressure build up in the lines. Hence the pump continues to run.

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[> Subject: Re: Water pressure problem


Author:
Jim Scoggins
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Date Posted: 11/ 8/ 06, 3:06am

Check easy stuff first:
Are the drain valves closed?
Is the switch to the air purge on or off?
Is the water tank fill switch on or off?

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Subject: oil leak


Author:
Bill
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Date Posted: 10/ 24/ 06, 8:33pm

We are the new owners of a 87, 36 BB with DD v6 92 T only 160K one owner. We have made 2 trips with no problems. Today I the engine started great , but I notice a small stream of black oil comming out of a opening in the bottom of a cumilator type tank under the bus. I turned the engine off and clean up the leak with paper towels. I checked the oil level and it was OK. I also checked the oil level for the power steering and hydrolic fan which did not show on the dip stick and notice some signs of lite oil on the pavement. I live in the Tampa ST Pete area.

Thanks for your thoughts!

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[> Subject: Re: oil leak


Author:
Ernie Ekberg
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Date Posted: 10/ 24/ 06, 7:10pm

Bill- your coach sounds like it is equipped with a slobber tube accumulator tank. lots of birds have their slobber tubes barely touching the ground. On mine, these are directed to an accumulator tank. My tank has lost the fitting on the bottom of the tank, thus allowing some oil to drip and or be sprayed on the back of the coach and my toad. Your fitting, may be lost or- your tank may be full. You can drain that- messy- and see if thats the problem. Ernie- 83PT40 in Montana

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[> [> Subject: Re: oil leak


Author:
Bill
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Date Posted: 10/ 24/ 06, 8:33pm

Thanks, There is a hole in the bottom of the tank where the black oil is dripping from and appears to be missing a plug. Someone told me it could be a pluged oil line building pressure which is deverted to the tank. All new oil less tha a couple months old. I'm not sure how to clean the tank. It appears since there is a hole in the bottom, the oil would run out, but only recently notice the oil stream from the tank. I'm not knowledgeable of the DD 92 6 t diesel and why they oil would come out of the engine.

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Subject: ELECTRIC HEATERS


Author:
BOB MALONEY
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Date Posted: 10/ 16/ 06, 5:50am

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN GET THE KNOBS FOR THE ELECTRIC
HEATERS IN A 87 FC 35?
THANKS
BOB MALONEY
87 FC 35 IN KY

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Subject: Battery charger/inverter


Author:
DANNY MILLER
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Date Posted: 10/ 14/ 06, 8:53am

We own a 1988 FC Wanderlodge, the battery charger is the original, being in use for so many years I feel that the charger is no longer performing properly. it appears that the batteries get charged constantly and boiling them dry.
Any suggestions for an update or replacement?

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[> Subject: Re: Battery charger/inverter


Author:
Don
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Date Posted: 09/ 12/ 06, 3:14pm

Danny,

If your just looking for a charger, I've had good luck with progressive dynamics models (pd9180 etc.), thats an 80 amp unit. Iota and xantrex make excellant converters as well. Basically a "smart" three step charger; consider getting one with some sort of remote control. Xantrex, then Iota are probably more expensive. The Xantrex has a built in bank isolator which in some instances can be usefull, but only a 40 amp output.

If you need an inverter (110V output off the batteries) then you'll probably go with the Xantrex. Most of these have a large battery charger built in. Such as the prosine 3.0; expensive...

Regards,

Don Duncan
1987 PT40
Beaverton, Oregon

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[> Subject: Re: Battery charger/inverter


Author:
GAF
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Date Posted: 10/ 14/ 06, 8:53am

Make sure you have good grounds between all components, engine/alternator, batts., and chargers. I had same problem years ago and found bad ground between chargers and batts.

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Subject: FMCA Convention


Author:
JIm Riordan (Centerfold)
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Date Posted: 10/ 4/ 06, 4:52am

Notice...All you Vintage Birds...We are centerfold material...check out the Oct FMCA mag...You have to look real hard but thanks to our awning birds we can be found!

Jim
Riordan
88WBWLXXV

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Subject: Re: Can not open safe


Author:
Earl
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Date Posted: 09/ 22/ 06, 1:03pm

I have a safe of a deceased family member that I am unable to open I haven't any idea what the combination is nor did I know the safe existed it is a SENTRY #13977 it says made in Rochester New York from Brush pennett Inc. please help me

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[> Subject: Re: Can not open safe


Author:
Bill
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Date Posted: 09/ 16/ 06, 8:58am

Earl,

There is a Safe Combination posting in the
Files section on the Wanderlodge site at:

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/

If the safe is open, it is easy to change the combination.
If it is locked shut , this is an expensive problem for a locksmith or safe cracker,
Maybe you could find a reputable buglar.

Bill

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[> Subject: Re: Can not open safe


Author:
D Nesci
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Date Posted: 09/ 22/ 06, 1:03pm

When I bought my coach the safe was locked and I did not have the combonation A local lock smith contacted the manufacturer with the serial # and they gave him the original combomation no one had changed it and I was able to open it. The manufacturer will only work with a bonded lock smith good luck

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Subject: Rubber window seals for '65?


Author:
Bobby Stevens
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Date Posted: 09/ 12/ 06, 7:48am

Hi all,
Does anyone know a source for outside seals for the old awning style windows? I believe 1970 was the last year for these before BB switched to sliders. In profile, the material is an elongated quarter round.

The original rubber on my bird has shrunk to the point where there are 1/2 to
3/4 inch gaps in the corners - no driving in the rain right now!

Thanks,
Bobby Stevens
65 FC31 Gas 391 OR

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Subject: PT40 1984-1986: Where do they rust at?


Author:
Tim Sullivan
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Date Posted: 08/ 30/ 06, 7:49pm

I've been shopping around for a BB PT40 1984-1986 model and I'm curious as to specific areas I should be checking for rust on them. I've read that the front generator enclosure as well as the exterior storage cabinets tend to be particular areas to look for rust in. Any other areas I should pay attention to? How about paint bubbling at body seams? Lower body panels in general? Thank you in advance for any thoughts on this.

Tim Sullivan

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[> Subject: Re: PT40 1984-1986: Where do they rust at?


Author:
Leon Walker (1986 40 ft BB for sale)
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Date Posted: 09/ 7/ 06, 8:05am

Tim I have a 40ft 86 BB that im selling I am the second owner It is in almost perfect shape. It has new pergo flooring,8 new tires, 6 new batteries,1 new A/C new injectors and rebuilt fuel pump on the 12.5 KW generator.It has all the bells and whistles that you would expect of a first class motor coach. You can E-Mail me for more info.

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Subject: Newbie with lot's of questions/ 1983 FC 35 ft


Author:
Ed Allison
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Date Posted: 09/ 1/ 06, 8:06pm

My wife and I just purchased our first motor home. We chose a Vintage Wanderlodge 1983 FC 35 ft./ Cat 225hp turbo. We are planning to take off with our two kids for Canada in October and felt Wanderlodge would be the best cold weather motorhome to meet our needs. We are needing help either finding a local mechanic or someone who could go over the things we think need repaired (to make sure we have correctly diagnosed any problem prior to going to mechanic) and general maintenance. We are just south of St. Petersburg Sky Way bridge in Palmetto, Florida. Because of their reputation for durability we would like to keep her for a long time and therefore I need to get familar with how to maintain her. Fortunately it seems to have been well cared for over the years and I am only the third owner. First owner had her till 2000.
As my wife followed me home she said the coach seemed to be leaning toward the passenger side. I suppose first thing to do is to measure from the bottom of skirt on four corners and make sure all corners are same distance from the ground. I was told that the airbags were all in good shape as they were all inspected recently when two of them had been replaced. Did read that their was a valve for each rear wheel that sometimes went bad.
I have never driven a motor home-last night was a first. Their seemed to be a lot of play in the steering wheel-approx 4 inches making it hard for me to keep on the road. Is this just me getting used to driving a Sherman Tank or do I need to have it looked at-if so what usually causes this and what is the fix?
This site was very helpful in convincing me that Wanderlodge was the most sensible coach for us. Thanks

Ed Allison

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[> Subject: Re: Newbie with lot's of questions/ 1983 FC 35 ft


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 09/ 1/ 06, 4:47am

Ed, I have a 83 FC just like the one you just purchaced....you said your wife said it looked like the BB was leaning. If the valve went bad, you would not have to have your wife tell you it was leaning, it would be much more pronounced and YOU would have noticed. I had a valve go bad on I 80 in Iowa about a year ago...pulled into a truck stop and had it replaced....they adjusted it to what they THOUGHT was level and I was on my way. 1 mile down the road it was leaning to one side ( but not like it was with the broken valve ). When I got to my destination I took it to a tire place and they attempted to adjust it to level...thought we had it right...1 mile down the road....not level. the point I'm trying to make is that adjusting the valves to where the motorhome is level requires someone who is familier with adjusting the valve.....take it to a good motorhome place and have them do it....don't try and do this yourself unless you have the right equipment to block the frame up so the BB doesn't come down on you and kill you!! there are a few wives out there who had to sell there motorhome after there husbands crawled under there MH and it came down on them and killed them!! There are 2 valves on the back and 1 on the front. You said the BB feels like there is a lot of play in the steering....there might be, but it could be you are over steering. you said you never drove a motorhome before....sounds like you just need to relax and not oversteer. The steering wheel is big and magnifies the play.

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[> Subject: Re: Newbie with lot's of questions/ 1983 FC 35 ft


Author:
Scott B
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Date Posted: 09/ 1/ 06, 7:07am

Ed, FIRST of all you need to check the tire dates, if they are old you are playing russian roulette with the outcome potentially alot of damage. The leaking valve is somewhat of a common problem. I must tell you that on our 86FC I chased a leaning coach for a while, then I finally replaced every one. There are three, one up front two in the rear. If you replace one on the rear better to do both the other is not far behind. As Sam said when you have this work done, it will take several times to level, adjust drive, adjust drive. Been there, shop did not drive it just set it down, 30 miles down the road, 400 buck less, and the coach is still leaning..

If you are in Fla. I would suggesst JOSAM's in Tampa, they do chassis work, and they are top notch. In so far as systems on the coach etc I know of a couple of folks that can "inspect" the coach for you, one is in Fla, two others in Mich,& OK. Email me and I will share their names with you. (cme4boats@aol.com)

In so far as you upcomming trip I would suggest all the seat time you can get. As well as check the entire coach out. You do not want to be stranded on the highway! These old girls can be finicky in the mountains, with air brakes, weight, length to stop etc. Oh one more thing..GET GOOD ROAD ASSISTANCE INS, not the one on your insurance policy but "Coachnet" or another, BEST advice to give you for $99.00/yr you can not go wrong! Just be sure they are used to RV's it is very expensive to tow your coach.

Once you get the coach running great, get used to the "feel" of it, you will be very impressed they truly are a "wanderful" machine.

Best of luck

Scott B
86FC35RB "RUBY" 4SALE
Murrells Inlet SC "Enesto just missed stoppin in last night"

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[> [> Subject: Re: Newbie with lot's of questions/ 1983 FC 35 ft


Author:
Ed Allison
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Date Posted: 09/ 1/ 06, 8:06pm

Thanks for the recommendation on where to have the chasis checked out. I am very grateful. This BB has brand new tires all the way around. I did stumble on a post that said from the bottom of skirt to ground should be 19" on front and 20" on back. My measurements were short by approx 1' on the passenger side and over by one inch on the drivers side. (I parked it on a level spot) I know the previous owner had two new airbags put on it. Perhaps they just did not get it adjusted properly and it needs to be tweaked. The coach had sat for a day and I did not notice it rise so I am assuming that is a good indication that there are no leaks. When adjusting those valves should all the tanks be empty?
When driving it this afternoon the ride seems mushy-makes it comfortable though. What are indications that the shocks shoud be replaced? I will take your advice on the towing insurance and will never get under the vehicle untill I have been properly trained on the correct technique. Thanks

Ed Allison

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Subject: Differences bewteen '83, '84 and 1985 PT40?


Author:
Tim Sullivan
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Date Posted: 08/ 30/ 06, 7:50pm

I'm looking very closely at the 1983-1985 PT40's as I want to buy one and am having trouble identifying any real differences between the years. Could you please tell me of any significant differences bewteen these model years? Thank you very much.

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[> Subject: Re: Differences bewteen '83, '84 and 1985 PT40?


Author:
Ernie Ekberg
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Date Posted: 08/ 29/ 06, 12:47pm

Tim- the 83 models do not have all the gauges that the 84 and newer coaches have. In 85, the radiator was moved to the side compartmemnt for the genny. Other than that- not much difference. I miss all the gauges, though. Ernie- 83PT40

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[> [> Subject: Re: Differences bewteen '83, '84 and 1985 PT40?


Author:
tim sullivan
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Date Posted: 08/ 30/ 06, 7:50pm

Thank you Ernie.

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Subject: Engine Service


Author:
Joshua
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Date Posted: 08/ 29/ 06, 8:14pm

Another question, what should I expect it to run me to have the 3208 fully serviced? There's a CAT dealer here, and they quoted over $800, and thats only if they don't find anything wrong. Would I be better off going somewhere else? (I'm in San Antonio if anyone knows of a good mechanic for the CAT or anything else on my Bird!)

They were a little surprised when I asked about the engine and they had to call me back because they had to dig out information on it because of it's age.

I just purchased the Wanderlodge, and thought it would be best to have the engine gone over, and would feel a lot better if it was given a clean bill of health by a mechanic before I travel much in it.

Joshua

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Subject: Window Buttons


Author:
Joshua
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Date Posted: 08/ 29/ 06, 7:59pm

Hey all,

A few months ago a purchased a 78 Wanderlodge, I'm still going through the documentation and learning! I noticed on all the windows there's a small button in the sill that gets depressed by the windows. What exactly is this for? Is there some type of alarm system that was an option? It just seemed odd to have all those window switches doing nothing.

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Subject: Height of a Blue Bird Coach


Author:
Carl
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Date Posted: 08/ 29/ 06, 7:44pm

I would like to purchase a bird and have it parked at home.
I have a 36 X 50 garage with 12 X 12 over head doors. Will most birds clear 12'? I looked at the blue bird specification page and could not find any reference to over clearance height. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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[> Subject: Re: Height of a Blue Bird Coach


Author:
Bill
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Date Posted: 07/ 28/ 06, 4:51pm

Our Birds is 12'6", there are storage pods and air conditioners on the roof. Our Bird is stored off site, the door is 14 feet. You could possibly dump the air suspension at the entry and drive straight in slowly.
I would suggest a door atleast 13 feet. Raise the door or dig out the floor, While you are at it, dig a pit. This would be a great place to work on the bird.

Bill 88 FC

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[> [> Subject: Re: Height of a Blue Bird Coach


Author:
Joshua
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Date Posted: 08/ 29/ 06, 7:44pm

A much easier suggestion I could make would be to cut a removable notch in the lower panel of your overhead door if it's a standard multipanel type garage door.

Joshua

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Subject: 1971 bb not running


Author:
cathie magoon
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Date Posted: 08/ 14/ 06, 10:44am

Hi, we have a 71' 31 foot bb that is is good shape. Straight body, good interior. Needs to be painted. The problem is that we spun a bearing and runied the crank so that it could not be fixed. We found a new crank but now we do not know if we should sell it as is or scrap it out for parts. We do not have the space to fix it. Any ideas?

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[> Subject: Re: 1971 bb not running


Author:
Joshua
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Date Posted: 08/ 29/ 06, 7:39pm

Hey Cathie,

For what it's worth, I'd get it fixed. Take it to a shop, find out what it takes to get it fixed. For what you can sell the RV for, it would make up for any repair costs and then some. It would seem foolish to scrap a bird that was otherwise in good shape. Otherwise at least sell it to someone who would get it fixed, but you won't make as much I'm sure!

Joshua

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Subject: 1995 a good year for Birds


Author:
Tom
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Date Posted: 08/ 28/ 06, 7:18pm

I'm close to purchasing a '95 Wanderlodge 42', Detroit Series 60. Anyone know if this was a "good" year for Birds?
Thanks

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[> Subject: Re: 1995 a good year for Birds


Author:
Tom
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Date Posted: 11/ 18/ 05, 9:22am

I also wonder if someone knows what kind of mileage I can expect from the "60".

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[> Subject: Re: 1995 a good year for Birds


Author:
max
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Date Posted: 11/ 23/ 05, 6:08pm

hey, did you end up getting this bird? we've always wanted one with a series 60.

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[> [> Subject: Re: 1995 a good year for Birds


Author:
Tom
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Date Posted: 12/ 1/ 05, 9:48am

I did, haven't pick it up yet. I'm hoping for 7 mph from the Series 60.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: 1995 a good year for Birds


Author:
max
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Date Posted: 08/ 18/ 06, 4:37pm

we purchased our '95 Wanderlodge 42' with the Series 60 and love it. mileage is about 7GPH

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: 1995 a good year for Birds


Author:
Bill
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Date Posted: 08/ 28/ 06, 7:18pm

Is that 7 MPH or 7MPG?

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Subject: 80 Relay problem/ Dump valve


Author:
Jonny
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Date Posted: 08/ 28/ 06, 3:05pm

Does anybody know what the 8 pin relay is for under the sink on the wall #KRPA-11dg-120 , It was sparking the other day and the fridge got hot and battery charger got hot, And does anybody know were the air valve is located to dump the air bags??? New Bird owner Jonny

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Subject: Hot water switch


Author:
Leon
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Date Posted: 08/ 3/ 06, 8:16am

I have 3 switches in my behind the bed closet. The blue book tells me that 1 of them is for the electric hot water heater and for the battery heaters. My problem is I don't know which is which. I have an 86 40 ft. 6v92 any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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[> Subject: Re: Hot water switch


Author:
ERnie Ekberg
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Date Posted: 08/ 4/ 06, 4:03pm

Leon- the first switch is the engine block heater, the second switch is the water heater, the third is for the battery heaters. I have no battery heaters on my coach and not many folks have them either. Ernie

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Subject: PT40 w/6V92 Questions


Author:
Don
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Date Posted: 03/ 20/ 06, 7:21pm

Hello,

I had an oportunity to drive a PT40 this weekend and was suprised at how gengerly (slowly) it moved off the line. Certainly, I could not "feal" any torque. Is this typical?

It seemed to pick-up spead at a steady pass, and hold it quite well. An observer would likely think that the driver was being partularly carefel with speed.

I understand that this rig is much more substantial than my 1980FC31. But I expected a bit more apparent tourque. It was very quiet, unlike my front control, so perhaps the real difference was the no noise.

How long in minutes should a 6v92 white smoke after start up before air is purged; and trouble is expected? Also, the engine hours were over 7100, any thoughts about that...?

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[> Subject: Re: PT40 w/6V92 Questions


Author:
Don
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Date Posted: 08/ 2/ 06, 12:55pm

Follow up to my own questions...

My 1980 FC31 is much faster off the line than that 6V92 I drove. My guess is that it did have some low power issue. Though I now understand that some (or all?) 6V92's do have emmissions controls that do limit of the line performance.

I just purchased an 8V92 coach and its' performance totally eclipses the above mentioned coaches.

Just some trivia, Don

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Subject: Engine won't start form consel


Author:
Bill (Short trip)
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Date Posted: 07/ 25/ 06, 5:49pm

I've just purchased a 1983 35PT Detroit Diesel and was running great at the dealer. When I drove to a storage lot and tried to recrank it would not. The engine will crank from the rear engine compartment, but not from inside. I've checked the Anti Theft switch and the power on switch, but nothing works. Any suggestions?

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[> Subject: Re: Engine won't start form consel


Author:
ernie ekberg
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Date Posted: 07/ 19/ 06, 4:52pm

Bill, the rear start toggle switch in our older coaches has caused some problems. Try messing with that. That is what happened to mine- just all of a sudden

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[> [> Subject: Re: Engine won't start form consel


Author:
Bill (Thanks)
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Date Posted: 07/ 23/ 06, 5:35pm

Thanks for the info the problem was in the toggle switch at the rear engine.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Engine won't start form consel


Author:
ernie ekberg
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Date Posted: 07/ 23/ 06, 6:28pm

Bill, where are you located? WE have LOTS of friends all over the country that could help you out. Ernie- 83 pt40, Montana

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[> [> [> [> Subject: RE: Engine won't start from console


Author:
Bill (Thanks)
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Date Posted: 07/ 25/ 06, 5:49pm

We are located in St.Petersburg, FL. still working FT , but looking forward to retiring. We have been researching RV buses for about a year before recently purching our 83-35'PT BB with about 179K one owner who traded for a Prevost at Parliment Coaches. We have never owned a bus and lots to learn.

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Subject: Savannah Rally


Author:
Janice Condon
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Date Posted: 07/ 18/ 06, 10:03am

In the May/June flyer it does not list a city, zip or phone for Paul Ward. Can anyone send this to me so I can register? Thanks for your help. Janice Condon

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Subject: coolant overflow/air suspension


Author:
mike
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Date Posted: 07/ 5/ 06, 9:09pm

hi everone im proud owner of 85 bb fc ive had about 3 months so still reading up on systems, these coaches are built like tanks and a cut above. anyway not long after pickup the drivers side suspension is not lifting someone said that it is probably one of three air valves or proportioning valve, if indeed the valve, where else can they be purchased bb said around mid 80s i want to save a buck but not at the cost of quality or safety.the other prob is when driving then stop it keeps throwing coolant out the overflow tried having cap on safety and doesnt make a dif, and temp is in norm also there doesnt seem to be a recovery bottle if it had one she would be leak free. open for suggestions.
mike

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[> Subject: Re: coolant overflow/air suspension


Author:
Scott B
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Date Posted: 07/ 7/ 06, 7:39pm

Hey there Mike, we have an 86FC35RB and love it. Your "issues" are very close to mine. The issue of "not lifting" can be somewhat of a concern. First of all there are leveling valves, (generally can be had at major truck centers) There is ONE valve on the front axle and TWO on the rear axle. Consequently, the issue is compounded, does one side not lift or does the other side lift too much? Are they leaking air..not good..need replaced if they are. I chased a "leaning coach" for a long time. I finally gave in and bit the bullet and replaced ALL the leveling valves. If you do not want to do that then I would suggest that if you replace one rear valve then replace BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. Otherwise, you will continue to have problems. When ANY valves are replaced, you must drive the coach around the block and then reset the ride height...every time...It took me six times to get it right.

The coolant issue is also near to my heart. On our FIRST trip I noticed coolant leaking, and the low coolant light came on, I continued to add coolant thinking that was the fix. WRONG. I would suggest you check your water pump for seepage, very common when water pumps are failing or have failed. If you do not correct it then you will prolly have to look forward to replacing head gaskets..5K at the CAT dealer! (new heads gaskets, clean radiator etc)

Generally, when these old girls give you a warning signal, like you are seeing, then you need to pay attention, and dig into finding the problem. Otherwise,you can expect some roadside assistance..NOT FUN..I would look very closely at the water pump, radiator cleaning (very common with older coaches, stuff settleing into the bottom of the radiator and causing higher than normal temps) maybe time for a radiator cleaning...

Just a word to the wise, if you have not done such, get a good road assist company, NOT THE INSURANCE COMPANIES..Try FMCA or Good Sam or Camping World.

ONE OTHER CAUTION...if you need towed..make sure the tow company understands you need an extra long "stinger" (the part they slide under the front end) and EXTRA HIGH LIFTS (so not to crush the oil pan) I insist that when calling for towing, the tow company call me BEFORE they dispatch a truck. I do this to explaing the coach (very heavy, long stinger etc) so as not to incurr two fees for the first wrong truck dispatched and then the correct truck.

I hope this helps.

ScottB
86FC35 "RUBY" (for sale)
Murrells Inlet SC "right next to heaven"

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Subject: 88 Wonderlodge W.B. 40' XXV


Author:
Paul Williams
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Date Posted: 06/ 29/ 06, 11:21am

Hello all.
I am so glad my wife found this Q&A area. We are going full time. Just sold the house and are now serious about getting a rig. We are on a limited budget and hoping to negotiate down to 120k. They are asking 144,900.
I am concerned that after buying, fixing unseen problems and upkeep might squeeze us too much.
Is this a good deal?
This Bird Is gorgeous! 1988 XXV silver anniversary model. It has the 8v92 and a 4 sp Allison. H.W.H hyd lvl jacks. 1500W inverter, 12.5kw kohler gen set. New refrig and micro/convec. There are lots of bells and whistles.
She has been inside all her stored life and has 65,800mi original mi on it. A big construction company owner has owned it for his personal toy. He even had his mechanics come to the storage to keep it up.
The gen has 1400hours on it.
How long will a well kept gen last?
Are there any places I can probe to find rust?
The rear bumper does have a small amount of rust.
With 3 roof and 1 engine A/C units, will I have to convert or should I wait till they need service to then convert?
The only thing I will have to add is a washer and dryer combo. How tuff are those units to install since the plumbing is not in?
I am sure that if I buy this rig I will have lots of questions.

Thanks in advance.
Paul

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[> Subject: Re: 88 Wonderlodge W.B. 40' XXV


Author:
Paul Williams
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Date Posted: 02/ 3/ 02, 5:10pm

Hello all. I would like to thank those that responded to my query. I am now a proud owner of a 1988 Wide body 40' XXV silver anniversary model. I spent 5.5 hours crawling over, under, around and in the rig. I found only minor items. I was able to talk Holland Motor Homes into reducing their asking price of 144,900 to 117k with a one year almost bumper to bumper extended service protection. They also placed in the purchase a stipulation of a closure of the sale at the closing of my home escrow in 30 days and giving me a discount on labor to put in the systems that I want, i.e.: washer/dryer, sat system, tow package, upgrade on some electrical items.
The people at Holland Motor Homes here in San Diego are very classy people. If I ever need work on the rig, I will try going there.
This new learning curve will be challenging but fun.
Time to look through the chat archive and any other place a Blue Bird is mention. hehe

Thank you again and fun running.
Paul and Judy Williams 88 XXV 40'

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[> [> Subject: Re: 88 Wonderlodge W.B. 40' XXV


Author:
Bill
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Date Posted: 02/ 16/ 02, 9:09am

Paul, you had good luck at Holland MH in San Diego. I am curious to who your salesman was. I have talked to a couple and they usually indicated they are not willing to negotiate at all. So I am very impressed with your results. Thanks for your help, Bill

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[> [> Subject: 1993 Wonderlodge W.B. 40' XXV


Author:
elton kleist
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Date Posted: 06/ 29/ 06, 11:21am

my check water in fuel light is on. We drained all fuel and now how do you reset light?

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Subject: rear bumper and mirrors


Author:
Scott Bauerle
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Date Posted: 06/ 17/ 06, 7:31pm

I have a 33 ft. 1977 that I am repainting. I need a rear bumper ( mine is dented ) and new mirrors. Does anyone know where to lacate this stuff or what a possible replacement could be?

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[> Subject: Re: rear bumper and mirrors


Author:
Stephen
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Date Posted: 06/ 26/ 06, 7:12pm

Buy a steel painted bumper from Bluebird and have it chromed should run around a 1,000.00 a factory chromed bumped is around $1500.00

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Subject: Dash AC for FC


Author:
Joe Heilmann
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Date Posted: 06/ 19/ 06, 10:27am

I bought a '79 FC with an inoperative dash AC unit and has not been converted to R134. The generator has a starter alignment problem. When I pick it up, I will have no AC. Does anyone know of a replacement unit I can bring with me and swap out before I head back.

Thanks,
Joe Heilmann

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Subject: Power steering


Author:
Gardner Yeaw
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Date Posted: 06/ 7/ 06, 10:08am

Was power steering standard on the 80's FC units? If not, can it be retrofitted?
Thanks,
Gardner

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[> Subject: Re: Power steering


Author:
Lucas Willemse
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Date Posted: 06/ 6/ 06, 6:38pm

I own a 1980 FC35 and it does have factory power steering.

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[> Subject: Re: Power steering


Author:
Bill
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Date Posted: 06/ 7/ 06, 10:08am

I do not think you could drive very far without power steering,

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Subject: No Air out one duct


Author:
BGJOWERS
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Date Posted: 05/ 29/ 06, 3:10pm

We have a 1983 Blue Bird PT35 and have one supply AC vent that does not hafe any air comming out the grill. Is there any dampers inside the duct or has the duct come lose. How would you access the duct and what would be the most likly location. There are two discharge grill in the sitting area and only one has air discharging.

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[> Subject: Re: No Air out one duct


Author:
Bill Jowers
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Date Posted: 06/ 4/ 06, 5:42pm

One of three evaporator froze up.

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Subject: USING SHOP AIR


Author:
RE BRAKE 1983 FC-35
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Date Posted: 06/ 1/ 06, 7:35pm

I WANT TO USE SHOP AIR WHEN WORKING ON THE COACH.WHERE SHOULD I HOOK MY SHOP AIR COMPRESSOR INTO THE SYSTEM. THERE WAS A FITTING CLOSE TO THE LUBE OIL TANK THAT ALLOWED FOR QUICK HOOK UP, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE PLACE
????
RE BRAKE 1983 FC-35 SB

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Subject: Need Inspection in GA


Author:
Scott Medlock
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Date Posted: 05/ 31/ 06, 4:55pm

Need to find someone that isn't too far from West Central GA...

Have a BB there I would like to have someone take a look at before I buy it.

scottm@medlock.net

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[> Subject: Re: Need Inspection in GA


Author:
Rocky
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Date Posted: 05/ 31/ 06, 7:05pm

I am a Bluebird owner and live in s.central Ga. maybe I can help.

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Subject: Need pre-purchase inspection


Author:
George LaLonde
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Date Posted: 05/ 31/ 06, 6:05pm

I'm looking at two BBs, each within 2hrs of Kansas City but in opposite directions. Looking for experienced BB owner to perform very thorough inspection with an open mind- one is FC the other PT. I like both for very different reasons. One is front entry- the other mid. Would also like imput from forum members.

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Subject: 69 Blue Bird Inn


Author:
mike
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Date Posted: 05/ 23/ 06, 6:05pm

I have a rare 1969 Blue Bird Inn there were only a few made and it has been in my family since 1972 I am looking for any information at all on this model any one intrested in pictures please contact me at bimibound@aol.com

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[> Subject: Re: 69 Blue Bird Inn


Author:
Kathy
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Date Posted: 05/ 30/ 06, 7:22pm

Mike if you look on the history page on this site you will find a link "A very special look at the past" just above the update area. Click on that link and you will see a brochure form the very early birds. I'm not exactly cure what year it is but it's close. You might find information in there to help you.

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Subject: RECOMMEND A CAMPGROUND IN RAPID CITY, SD


Author:
John Finn
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Date Posted: 05/ 26/ 06, 4:06am

I need to find a campground for the week of July 19 to the 25, in Rapid City, SD this is a week before the Sturgis rally. I will be meeting up with some friends that will be returning from their motorcycle ride on the old Route 66 from Chicago to California and then they will ride back to Rapid City and meet up with myself and some other friends from North Dakota to make daily rides around the Black Hills and surrounding areas on our Motorcycles.

Since I bring my bike along with my car in an enclosed trailer, I will need a campground that either has a pull through long enough to handle 62 feet overall, or a place that I can detach and store the 27 foot trailer. I will need full hookups and prefer 50 amp service, but I can get by on 30 amp if need be.

Can anybody recommend such a campground that they have stayed at in that area? I considered using the FamCamp on the US Air Force Base also. but have limited information about it, but I qualify to use it, anybody stayed at the FamCamp?


"REMEMBER SEPTEMBER 11, 2001"
John Finn
'82 35FCRB
BLUEBIRD WANDERLODGE
TO VISIT THE "FINN'S INN EXPRESS" REMODELING ADVENTURE
GO TO;
http://www.pbase.com/image/24977457
'66 SUPERIOR / IH 392 GAS V8 32' PUSHER "FOR SALE"
SEE THE OLD COACH AT:
http://www.pbase.com/image/26052733
HOPKINS, SOUTH CAROLINA

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[> Subject: Re: RECOMMEND A CAMPGROUND IN RAPID CITY, SD


Author:
Jim Scoggins
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Date Posted: 05/ 23/ 06, 2:52am

The koa up by rushmore is a great camp ground.
I have stayed at the FAMCAMP--excellent facility and my first choice.

regards,
jim

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[> [> Subject: Re: RECOMMEND A CAMPGROUND IN RAPID CITY, SD


Author:
John Finn
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Date Posted: 05/ 24/ 06, 2:21pm

Thanks Jim,

I made reservations at Angostura State Recreational Area at Hot Springs, SD about 40 miles south of Rapid City. The fee was $103.00 for the week, with 50 amp service and a 70 foot back in site, so I won't have to disconnect my trailer. I believe that I may have to also purchase an entrance permit too, but I'm not sure of that cost, a yearly is $25.00. The site is close to the reservoirs lake.

"REMEMBER SEPTEMBER 11, 2001"
John Finn
'82 35FCRB
BLUEBIRD WANDERLODGE
TO VISIT THE "FINN'S INN EXPRESS" REMODELING ADVENTURE
GO TO;
http://www.pbase.com/image/24977457
HOPKINS, SOUTH CAROLINA

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: RECOMMEND A CAMPGROUND IN RAPID CITY, SD


Author:
Jim Scoggins
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Date Posted: 05/ 26/ 06, 4:06am

You will enjoy the town of Hot Springs--off the beaten path for bike week.

I don't know anything about the rec area itself

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Subject: Leveling, Sitting


Author:
Dave G
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Date Posted: 05/ 14/ 06, 4:36pm

Got A couple of wannabe questions for you folks.
Did FC models come with leveling jacks? Was it optional?
Also- what is the routine for entering and leaving the pilot/copilot seats on an FC? Doesn't look like there is much clearance.
Thanks for the info.
Dave in WI

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[> Subject: Re: Leveling, Sitting


Author:
ernie ekberg
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Date Posted: 05/ 16/ 06, 7:06am

Dave, the FC models did have jacks. The wanderlodge 2 coaches did not. To enter and exit a FC is a little more difficult then a pt.

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Subject: Propanevalves


Author:
Marvin Skaggs
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Date Posted: 05/ 11/ 06, 2:27pm

Can someone tell me why with full tamk and the main valve on tank and the valves in the outside fridge compartment on I still get no gas to anything?
thanks, marvin
1984 pt40

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[> Subject: Re: Propanevalves


Author:
ernie ekberg
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Date Posted: 05/ 4/ 06, 4:43am

Marvin, see if your propane detector has defaulted to close the valve. mine was dirty once and I took it apart and cleaned it.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Propanevalves


Author:
Marvin Skaggs
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Date Posted: 05/ 4/ 06, 10:40am

thanks

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Propanevalves


Author:
Scott B
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Date Posted: 05/ 9/ 06, 11:53am

Marvin, you may also want to check the main sensor, in our coach (86FC35) it is under the fridge. Sometimes it may get turned off by the sweeper, or by a foot when getting something from the fridge. Simply push the button in to turn on/off. A small led light should glow green if it is on!
Best of Luck.

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[> Subject: Re: Propanevalves


Author:
bob maloney
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Date Posted: 05/ 11/ 06, 4:24am

when you find problem please post or email me i am having same prob
tks bob
87 fc 35 in ky

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[> Subject: Re: Propanevalves


Author:
Bill
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Date Posted: 05/ 11/ 06, 2:27pm

Marvin,

The gages are not always accurate, be sure there in propane in the tank.
There is also a automatic safety shut off valve, located near the main tank shut-off valve. It is wired to the propane detector. It automatically shuts off the propane, when the detector senses propane. THese electro-magnetic valves sometimes get stuck in the off position, hence no propane,
We had to replace this safety valve and the propane detector.

Bill 88 FC

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Subject: NEW STYLE 'BIRD DECALS & BOSCH RELAYS


Author:
John Finn
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Date Posted: 05/ 5/ 06, 4:16pm

I just received an order of new style 'Bird decals, the wording is a little different than I previously had designed. I got to thinking if the decal was placed too close to the driver or passenger, that it might imply that they were who it was referring to and not the 'Bird.
Here is the description and the link to see what it looks like on my 'Bird.

IT'S NOT OLD - IT'S VINTAGE `BIRD ©
GOLD VINYL DECALS
6 INCHES WIDE BY 5-1/8 INCHES HIGH, WITH RIGHT AND LEFT
FACING `BIRDS FOR OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE VEHICLE, CUT FROM GOLD COLORED 6 YEAR VINYL
$15.00 A PAIR
(ONE RIGHT FACING AND ONE LEFT FACING)
PLUS POSTAGE AND HANDLING
CAN BE ORDERED IN OTHER COLORS FOR ADDITIONAL COST

http://upload.pbase.com/iamflagman/image/59656165

I also have received another order of Bosch Relays with pigtails, for the Headlight and Taillight upgrade, as I had sold out my stock at Myrtle Beach, these cost a little bit more, as my supplier has raised their prices. Check out;

http://www.pbase.com/iamflagman/image/56964525


"REMEMBER SEPTEMBER 11, 2001"
John Finn
'82 35FCRB
BLUEBIRD WANDERLODGE
TO VISIT THE "FINN'S INN EXPRESS" REMODELING ADVENTURE
GO TO;
http://www.pbase.com/image/24977457
'66 SUPERIOR / IH 392 GAS V8 32' PUSHER "FOR SALE"
SEE THE OLD COACH AT:
http://www.pbase.com/image/26052733
HOPKINS, SOUTH CAROLINA

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Subject: carpet


Author:
bob maloney
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Date Posted: 05/ 5/ 06, 12:48pm

what is a reasonable price to have new carpet installed in front of fc 35 including engine cover kitchen is wood
tks bob

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[> Subject: Re: carpet


Author:
Ernie Ekberg
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Date Posted: 05/ 5/ 06, 5:20am

Bob, lots of factors here. if you remove all carpet/pad, and the tons of staples- that will decrease the overall price. It is also better to remove the doghouse, top and bottom. If you need insulation, now is the time. we have done a lot of Bluebirds, and would bee happy to give you a quote off forum.Ernie Ekberg, 83pt40 in Texas. in the business since 1972

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[> [> Subject: Re: carpet


Author:
bob maloney
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Date Posted: 05/ 5/ 06, 12:43pm

would like quote both ways just send to my email
tks bob
i would probably want to do insulation and cleaning but price both ways

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: carpet


Author:
bob maloney
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Date Posted: 05/ 5/ 06, 12:48pm

hey not good at this email is bb87@netzero.com hope this works
tks bob
87 fc 35 in ky

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Subject: Wanted Blue Bird


Author:
Steve
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Date Posted: 04/ 29/ 06, 9:35am

Hi All

I have been trying to contact Don in Oregon reguarding his 1980 Bird. Have not gotten an answer, If he is on the net woould he contact me at mr34@pipeline.com

Thank you
Steve
montana
406-443-8240

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[> Subject: Re: Wanted Blue Bird


Author:
ernie ekberg
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Date Posted: 04/ 19/ 06, 3:03pm

Is that the Don from Bremmerton? Ernie Ekberg, 83pt40

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[> [> Subject: Re: Wanted Blue Bird


Author:
Don Duncan
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Date Posted: 04/ 29/ 06, 9:35am

Hi all,

It is Don from Beaverton Oregon, and I have been able to contact Steve.

Thank you.

Don Duncan

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Subject: FC weights


Author:
Alfred Pechin
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Date Posted: 04/ 12/ 06, 5:53am

Looking at FC's between 1980 to 1989. Would like to get a general idea about weights. I'm interested in knowing what kind of GVWR, UVW, and CCC I would be looking at for these kind of units. We would be full timing in it.

Alfred

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[> Subject: Re: FC weights


Author:
ernie ekberg
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Date Posted: 04/ 19/ 06, 6:53pm

alfred- the FC's don't have any CCC issues that I'm aware of. ernie-former 84 35FC, now 83 pt40

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Subject: Leaky water supply lines


Author:
Bob Kay
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Date Posted: 04/ 18/ 06, 11:44am

I am a new Bluebird owner. I have a 1982 Wanderlodge. Durring a quick freeze the water was drained but the lines were not blown out. It now leaks when filling. Can I fix this and how? or Where do I go? I live in north Texas, DFW area. My tank level gauges do not work either. Help

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[> Subject: Re: Leaky water supply lines


Author:
ernie ekberg
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Date Posted: 04/ 18/ 06, 1:01pm

Bob, we used some clear plastic tubing with worm drive clamps and put that over the leaks. i live in weatherford, where are you? Ernie Ekberg-83pt40

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Subject: fuel tanks


Author:
Icepick
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Date Posted: 04/ 11/ 06, 5:15pm

I have 1968 Bird with dual 60 gal tanks. My switch for the tanks has never work, for the past 4 yrs when driving the fuel has been pulled simultaneously from both tanks while in operation. Here recently I ran out of fuel, I knew I had plenty of fuel. I dip my tanks as I always do and found the front tank empty and the back tank full. I added fuel in the front tank fired her up and was on the road again. Can anyone comment on what is causing this to happen. THANKS!

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Subject: 1983 Wanderlodge


Author:
Patricia
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Date Posted: 04/ 10/ 06, 12:54pm

We are new owners of a 1983 37' wanderlodge, which needs body work and new paint. We were wondering if the value of the bluebird being "vintage" will be deminished if the colors are changed. Should we stick to the colors that were generally offered in that time period? Any advice would be greatly appreciated since we are inexperienced with bluebirds. Thank you

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[> Subject: Re: 1983 Wanderlodge


Author:
ernie ekberg
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Date Posted: 04/ 8/ 06, 1:02pm

there have been quite a few coaches that have gone to an updated color scheme. If I had thebucks- and it will be expensive, I'd get rid of the tired old gold and brown on my coach. Ernie-83PT40 inn Texas

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[> Subject: Re: 1983 Wanderlodge


Author:
Don
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Date Posted: 04/ 10/ 06, 12:54pm

A quality paint job will likely be well beyond $10K. You won't get that back in resale, but it probably will sell faster. I don't know if I would want to paint over 23 year old paint and expect it to last. Look around and you will find some paint schemes that look exceptional, others that missed the mark. I think in the long run it is probably more economical to find a bus with a descent paint job and purchase at the going rate, than to find a bargain bus and have it painted. Assuming all things turn out equal.

In general, the newer the bus, the easier it is for the owner to afford repairs. Their simply more wealthy than the owners to follow...

Don

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Subject: diesel genset fan not turning


Author:
Rose Mary
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Date Posted: 03/ 20/ 06, 9:39pm

Hi,
hoping someone can suggest a way to isolate the problem.

The breaker inside the genset compartment is not tripped off. (I clicked it off and on several times, it has never tripped on it's own that I am aware. I think the fuse is ok, tho will get a new one tomorrow just to be sure.

The Kohler generator starts right up and runs great....for about a minute (the fan is not turning so it trips the red reset button.

How do I check fan motor, it of course worked great before...
now, when we're getting ready for a getaway....ha!

I'm pretty sure it is absolutely something simple, like a connection or wire....(course I could be dreaming)

Hoping someone might have some ideas that I could troubleshoot a little before I break down and hire a professional...
thanks
Rose Mary
82 FC 33
Oregon

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[> Subject: Re: diesel genset fan not turning


Author:
Rose Mary
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Date Posted: 04/ 7/ 06, 11:54pm

It turned out to be the voltage regulator. A spendy little part, $300 + installation but worth it, the 'White Bird' gave us another flawless trip down 101 into the Redwoods and back.
The more we use it the more we love traveling with it! We've put around 4,000+ miles on in the last year or so. Ready to do more.
A hoot and toot...Our bird is wounded tho, the musical horn only gave us 2 plays and it has always worked great...
any places to check for the obvious, loose wires, bad connections...
also the camera, comes on for a bit then fades out, the tv still works. It is the original back up cam and would like to keep it, if there is something to check for that could be fixed. Don't want to get into a fancy replacement job, larger tv etc. Back up cam and original tv set up works great for us. We don't watch tv, maybe a movie or listen to books on tape.
Like to see who is behind me while driving and what when backing mostly.
Have learned so much from the various forums devoted to wanderlodges.
Thank you all
Rose Mary
82 FC 33 (35?)
"White Bird"
Oregon

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Subject: Generator Engine Problems


Author:
Leon
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Date Posted: 04/ 1/ 06, 2:48pm

I got my 86PT40 picked up in ca. and got it back home in no.tx. It is everything that we hoped it would be. as I said it hasn't been ran or started in over 4years so I finally got the Generator started yesterday after much priming and a little ether.It is a 12.5 Kohler powered by a Yanmar diesel. It ran fine for about 45seconds then it started going to high RPM and i thought that it was going to come apart, I finally got it stopped or it stopped itself.I started a second time and it did the same thing.The gen. only has 290 hrs. HELP!!

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[> Subject: Re: Generator Engine Problems


Author:
Ernie Ekberg
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Date Posted: 03/ 30/ 06, 5:34am

Where in north Texas are you located? There is a Lone Star bird rally in Kerrville in April. Folks there would be very willing to help you out with any questions you might have. Ernie Ekberg, 83 PT40, Weatherford, Tx

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[> [> Subject: Ernie Ekberg 83PT40


Author:
Leon
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Date Posted: 04/ 1/ 06, 2:47pm

Ernie, We are in Graham , Tx. I took my bird to Cantwell Equipment in Ft Worth on friday.We are going to be out of town for about a week on a church trip so thouhgt they could get the gen going while we are gone. Im also redoing the floor. have ripped all the carpet up and are going back with a pergo laminate. The coach is in terrific shape but i'm going to need someone that has some knowledge on how everything in the coach works I have alot of figured out but would sure feel better if you would look at it. Dont know if it will be ready for the rally though. Thanks Alot!

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Ernie Ekberg 83PT40


Author:
Leon Walker
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Date Posted: 04/ 1/ 06, 2:48pm


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Subject: Wanderlodge that sleeps 8


Author:
Jonathan Steen
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Date Posted: 03/ 30/ 06, 3:10pm

What is the smallest Wanderlodge that would sleep 8? Would prefer mid 80's PT

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[> Subject: Re: Wanderlodge that sleeps 8


Author:
eernie ekberg
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Date Posted: 02/ 19/ 06, 4:34pm

the smallest pt is a pt35- you will still have to do some modifications to sleep 8. ernie ekberg-83pt40- sleeps 2

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[> [> Subject: Re: Wanderlodge that sleeps 8


Author:
Jonathan Steen
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Date Posted: 02/ 19/ 06, 4:48pm

Thanks for the prompt reply. How new do you have to go to get an interior that would sleep at least 6. We have 4 kids and since we homeschool, we are planning to do a year long trip around the country.

What's our best bet?

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Wanderlodge that sleeps 8


Author:
ernie ekberg
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Date Posted: 02/ 20/ 06, 7:57am

you would have to have a floorplan with 2 couches and have 2 of your children sleep on the kitchen booth. a larger coach would accommodate you better in regards to clothes and storage. look under the for sale coaches listed here for their floorplans.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Wanderlodge that sleeps 8


Author:
Paul Huber
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Date Posted: 03/ 10/ 06, 5:22pm

Hi Jonathan,

I sent an email to you yesterday. I'd like to compare notes with you on this as we are doing almost the same things as you. I'm posting this here just in case you don't see the email due to spam filters. It will be from PH.

Hope to chat soon,

Paul

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[> Subject: Re: Wanderlodge that sleeps 8


Author:
Terri Gardner
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Date Posted: 03/ 30/ 06, 3:10pm

We have a 1980 that has the floor plan with the 2 couches, kitchen table that converts to a bed and a queen in the bedroom. We have just purchased a newer bus and are interested in getting rid of the 1980. Let me know if you are interested.
Terri

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Subject: 1968 Bluebird - Fan wires


Author:
Clark
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Date Posted: 03/ 25/ 06, 6:54pm

I don't seem to be able to find where the vent fans hot wire terminates. My ceiling fan and the fan over the stove are not getting 12 volts, and I can't seem to find the other end of the wires! I need to know if they terminate in the pilot section or maybe somewhere else.
Any help is appreciated !

Clark

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[> Subject: Re: 1968 Bluebird - Fan wires


Author:
Clark
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Date Posted: 03/ 27/ 06, 3:03pm

I figured it out, In my pilot area above is where they terminated.

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Subject: '77 FC Cruise Control on the blink...Need help.


Author:
Stan F.
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Date Posted: 03/ 20/ 06, 8:55pm

Hi everyone! I have a '77 FC which has a vacuum type cruise control system that has stopped working. The pump under the passenger seat still spins when I press the cruise button on the turn signal stalk, but there seems to be no vacuum. Does any body out ther have any experience with either fixing or replacing this unit? Any help would be appreciated. By the way, what are those little screw-on glass jars on the vacuum pump for? Are they supposed to hold oil or some other fluid?
Mine are empty.....Thanks in advance. Stan in Pa.

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[> Subject: Re: '77 FC Cruise Control on the blink...Need help.


Author:
DanT
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Date Posted: 06/ 13/ 02, 12:44pm

Stan,
My understanding is these are no longer available nor are parts. They most common method of repair is to replace it with a totally electronic unit. Hope this helps. No faster than these things are I just use a brick. Toss it on the pedal when I start and kick it off when I get where I am going. :-) DanT

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[> Subject: Re: '77 FC Cruise Control on the blink...Need help.


Author:
Jeff Miller '77FC
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Date Posted: 06/ 22/ 02, 7:49pm

Stan:

I have two of those pumps, one without a motor which I'll happily send to you. I'll try sending email.

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[> [> Subject: Re: '77 FC Cruise Control on the blink...Need help.


Author:
re brake
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Date Posted: 12/ 4/ 05, 6:26pm

Jeff: I heard you very good on cruise controls: i have a 1983 fc-35 the cruise was disconnected when i bought it. where is the vacuum pump located? I guess any 12 volt vacuum pump would work. The control is not hooked to the throttle lever, does the cruise control allow the lever to slide when the foot throttle is depressed?
I thank you for any help you can give me i would like to have it working.
re brake

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[> Subject: Re: '77 FC Cruise Control on the blink...Need help.


Author:
Chuck
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Date Posted: 03/ 20/ 06, 8:55pm

I bought the ROSTA Ultra cruse modified the connectors to use the existing wiring speed sensor and controls and it works great!

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Subject: Diesel Gen Set


Author:
Dale Yoder
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Date Posted: 03/ 17/ 06, 11:09am

I've got a '72 31' Wanderlodge that I replaced the gas engine with a 3208. I would like to change the generator to diesel also, if I could find one. I only need a 6.5 or so. If anybody has an old one or knows of one, could you please let me know?
Thanks, Dale

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Subject: Twin Bed Conversion


Author:
Michael Nikisher
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Date Posted: 03/ 15/ 06, 7:54am

Sorry to bother y'all with a question that has probably been asked and answered before but I have not found a way to search this forum to find previous posts.

Is it possible, and/or, feasible to convert a coach with twin beds to a queen sized bed?

Thanks in advance for your reply,
Michael

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[> Subject: Re: Twin Bed Conversion


Author:
David
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Date Posted: 03/ 15/ 06, 3:52pm

We've converted two twins to a larger than king by filling in the aisle between them. Boy do we love it. Makes a great "family bed!"

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Subject: Marshall Brass LP detector


Author:
Betty Umpstead
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Date Posted: 03/ 14/ 06, 7:17pm

Our Marshall Brass LP detector went bad.It is located in the outside compartment of the refer.Does anyone know of where we can by one or another one of a different brand that will work?We have found a Pre-Tell but the sensor board inside the couch by the refer needs a 4-wire and the Pre-tell is only a 3-wire,will this work?If it works how is it hooked up?Thanks for any help

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Subject: steering box on 1982 33 ft wanderlodge, turbo cat


Author:
Rose Mary
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Date Posted: 03/ 14/ 06, 12:13pm

Hi
Looking for help on the steering gear box of my little brother's coach. It is new to me, he was killed in July and we are looking for a home for his coach. It seems to have way too much play in the steering wheel. My older brother drove it here and said it was really a bugger to keep on the road, (is that why it's called a wanderlodge?!). I feel I need to get this looked at but so far haven't located where a bluebird authorized dealer might be in Oregon. Also the red button which says susp dump is staying on and the front air doesn't seem to be picking up around the wheels. It worked before when I had to coach engine running. We just took it to a detail shop and of ourse any button could be out of place but I can't seem to find one to address that red light being on and the air not picking up the front. The air bags had been replaced and were working fine....help?!
This is a great coach, only 67000 original miles and kept immaculate. My brother was single no children didn't smoke and himself was an excellent mechanic and kept everything up as his detailed logs show. It is likely operator error but don't want to drive the coach until it is right. Thank you for any help. If there is place in Southern Oregon that anyone knows, of I'd appreciate it. Thanks for reading.

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[> Subject: Re: steering box on 1982 33 ft wanderlodge, turbo cat


Author:
Blair
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Date Posted: 10/ 2/ 04, 1:26pm

Take it to Roberts Motors in Medford.... call me if you need help with it. Blair in Williams with a 1986 PT38
541-846-9432

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[> [> Subject: Re: steering box on 1982 33 ft wanderlodge, turbo cat


Author:
Carl Herron
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Date Posted: 03/ 14/ 06, 12:13pm

Hi Blair I just purchased your old 86pt Bird from Steve H.in UTAH. Its now back up in the northwest. We are getting ready to take off for Alaska. Do you know of anything with the coach I should be worried about? It seems to run GOOD! There are little things that need fixing but I expected some of that.
Thanks
Carl

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Subject: Speedometer 86PT


Author:
Carl
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Date Posted: 03/ 14/ 06, 11:30am

I'm looking for a new speedometer for an 86PT does anyone know where I can get one? Besides BB.
Thanks Carl

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Subject: Interior height


Author:
Michael Rutkowski
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Date Posted: 03/ 13/ 06, 8:55am

Back in the early 80's my wife and I looked at a Bluebird Motor coach, I beleive it had 8ft. of interior height. I'm 6'8" and need the extra height did Blue bird have a model in which someone 6'8" could stand in?? Thanks for your help

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[> Subject: Re: Interior height


Author:
Ernie Ekberg
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Date Posted: 03/ 13/ 06, 6:30pm

Michael, I believe, with the advent of the wide body coaches,in 1988, the interior height was added, also.

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Subject: 1968 Bluebird - gas tank switch valve and filter


Author:
Clark
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Date Posted: 03/ 8/ 06, 4:59pm

Where can I find the cable operated gas tank switch valve,
mine started leaking the other day. I also need the part
number for the replacement fuel filter for the frame rail canister. Any help is appreciated!

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[> Subject: Re: 1968 Bluebird - gas tank switch valve and filter


Author:
ernie ekberg
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Date Posted: 03/ 9/ 06, 5:13am

Clark- where in Texas are you located? We have lots of owners there that could possibly come by your place and help you out. Ernie Ekberg-83pt40, weatherford, tx, currently in louisiana

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Subject: Panel Board


Author:
Rocky
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Date Posted: 03/ 8/ 06, 5:05pm

I have a 68 Bird with a panel board above the driver, some of the switches are not marked. Does anyone know what they all control. Thanks

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[> Subject: Re: Panel Board


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 02/ 18/ 06, 8:21pm

I was reading old post and found yours, if you still need to know what the switches do, contact me and I will send you a picture of mine, in my 68, they are all labeled.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Panel Board


Author:
Rocky
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Date Posted: 02/ 22/ 06, 7:49am

Thanks for the reply. Please foward picture to my e=mail or drop me a line for futher contact infro. Thanks again! Rocky

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[> [> Subject: Re: Panel Board


Author:
Clark
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Date Posted: 03/ 2/ 06, 12:57pm

I recently purchased an excllent 68 Wanderlodge, I am needing the part #for the fuel filter replacement cartridge, which is located in the canaster on the frame rail. Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks, Clark in Texas

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Panel Board


Author:
Rocky
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Date Posted: 03/ 2/ 06, 5:03pm

Clark, my bus has been converted to diesel so I won't be able to help you on the fuel filter. Maybe you can help me with the panel board some of the switches are not labeled on my 68 and I've not been able to trace them down to find what they used to operate, any help would be welcome! Thanks! Rocky

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[> Subject: Re: Panel Board


Author:
Clark
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Date Posted: 03/ 8/ 06, 5:05pm

Rocky, I dont see away for me to send a picture, but if you call in the evening after 7 Texas time, I will walk
out to the bus and run you thru my switches.

Clark 254-289-8406

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Subject: 86 PT 40 make ready


Author:
Leon Walker
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Date Posted: 03/ 1/ 06, 8:29am

I have purchased an 86 pt40 from my aunt in s.cal. it has 51000 miles on it and it hasn't been ran in 5 years. they were using it when my uncle got sick and died so she just put it up in a good storage bldg.and forgot about it. what do i need to do to it to get ready to drive back to texas this month? Im sure the batteries(what kind and how many) will need to be changed,oil and filters,fuel filters.and possibly tires any help anyone can give will be greatly appreciated

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[> Subject: Re: 86 PT 40 make ready


Author:
Mike Bulriss
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Date Posted: 03/ 5/ 06, 11:00am

Leon,

It is nice that you can rescue this Bird and get it on the road again. Great find also, kind of like a time capsule.

Since no one has responded to you yet, I'll take a shot.

You didn't indicate your familiarity with RVs, big rigs or mechanics, but I think you have outlined the basics - batteries, filters, oil, tire pressures for sure - maybe replacement. Since it has been stored inside, the effects of sunlight and ozone have been minimized on the tires. If it was stored on concrete floors, that would not be as good as if stored on dirt, asphalt, or parked on wood or plastic. Check the tires carefully for rotting, crack, etc. If they look OK and hold air, I'd make some short trips after firing it up, check them again, and then make a decision to proceed home on them or not. Since you know they are at least five years old, check the dates to see how old they really are. Hopefully, they are good brand and maybe the uncle changed them shortly before it was stored. Inflate them to the max ratings on the tire, not the old inflation pressures on the tag (usually) in the front storage compartment. I personally don't worry too much about dates if stored inside, not on concrete, holding air and no sidewall cracks or dry rot apparent. Any truck tire I've ever had blow showed warning signs as noted. If you have any doubts, get them changed out, especially the fronts. Blown tires at speed on this size of a rig tear up lots of stuff at best and cause serious accidents at worst.

On the filters, you probably know this but I would remind you to have some fresh diesel fuel handy to re-fill the racor insert filter and spin-on fuel filter(s). I guess my biggest concern might be the five year old fuel, which could have developed algae. Hopefully the tank was full and tightly sealed when parked. I'd have lots of extra fuel filters and tools for the ride home.

Regarding the batteries, on most early/mid-80's models there should be a bank of 6Volt (golf cart) batteries hooked in series/parallel fashion to form multiple 12 volt parallel circuits. On my 83 PT40 there were 4 6v batteries hooked 2 in series to form two banks of 12v in parallel. Gives more amp hours reserve power with the 6v. The 86 may have 6 or more 6v batteries hooked in series/parallel format. Someone may have converted the battery bank to 12v batteries, so you will need to check this before buying any new batteries at the local Sam's. The genset should have its own 12v battery in the front compartment on the driver's side.

Check all fluids - don't forget the antifreeze, and the oil in the fan and power steering reservoir. Check the belts on the alternator also before departing. You will access the alternator from inside the coach through a hatch under the rear bed.

The worst part to me in firing up dry engines is not having lubrication on the internals after sitting unused for so long, but unless you have an oil pre-charger system to install, you don't have much choice. Hopefully it will fire quickly and build up oil pressure quickly.

Not to take anything away from this forum, but you might want to visit www.wanderlodgeforum.org (Harvey, the moderator on this forum is a moderator there also). There are lots of members on that forum in S. Cal that might be able to assist you when the time comes. If you post this same comment there, you might find lots of advice and offers of assistance.

Where are you located in Texas? When you get the Bird back here, you will need to attend one of our Lone Star Bird Rallies to meet other Bird owners in Texas!

Good luck.
Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX

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Subject: Loss in value due to water damage


Author:
David
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Date Posted: 03/ 3/ 06, 12:04pm

Our 1982 31ft bird was damaged when it was pumped and the driver of the pumping truck left the backwash hose on and sealed the tank back up, so that the whole thing basically flooded from the inside out. It was treated within 36 hours with a specialized de-humidifier that removed all of the moisture from the sub-floor and then all of the floor covering was replaced. Still, there is a small chance that mold may develop some day. We are trying to settle for the damages with the company that caused the accident. Does anyone know how we would figure out the loss in value because of this incident? We assume that resale value is lower than it would otherwise be, but by how much?

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[> Subject: Re: Loss in value due to water damage


Author:
Ernie Ekberg
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Date Posted: 03/ 3/ 06, 4:35pm

david, I have been working in the hurricane ravaged areas of Louisiana for a couple of months. If you don't have any water leaks, and since everything was dried out- you should be ok in regards too mold.The folks here are very concerned about mold , also. You did the correct procedure.

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Subject: swing radiator


Author:
steve gureasko
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Date Posted: 03/ 1/ 06, 11:19am

I have a 78 with a cat engine and am looking to install a swing radiator. Does anyone have any plans,blueprints, etc. on this installation? Please e-mail me. Thank you.

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[> Subject: Re: swing radiator


Author:
JOHN JOHNSON
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Date Posted: 01/ 13/ 04, 4:37am

STEVE: Go to this web site....www.wanderlodge.org When you get there click on...FILES. when files comes up............
then click on........PROJECTS.when projects comes up.......
then click on........SWING OUT RADIATOR.

This guy did it on a 1980 FC31 3208 NA
I think this will give you some idea on what's involved.
GOOD LUCK, JOHN

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[> Subject: Re: swing radiator


Author:
Lucas Willemse
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Date Posted: 01/ 13/ 04, 9:14am

I did this conversion on my 1980 FC35 last year. I bought the parts from Holland Motorhomes. You have to be able to weld on the brackets to swing down the bumper and the swing out radiator bracket. I can e-mail you pictures of the conversion. It was not that difficult, and I can now open the front up in 10 minutes to acces the front of the engine for belts etc.

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[> [> Subject: Re: swing radiator


Author:
steve gureasko
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Date Posted: 01/ 17/ 04, 1:49pm

Lucas please e-mail me those pictures as it took me several hours to do that job. Thanks.

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[> [> Subject: Re: swing radiator


Author:
carl
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Date Posted: 02/ 27/ 06, 9:59pm

i am interested in swing radiator information. I plan on changing my 76 BB. thanks, carl

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[> [> Subject: Re: swing radiator


Author:
jim marsh
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Date Posted: 03/ 1/ 06, 11:19am

Lucas, I have a 82 fc35 that I want to put a swing out on. please e-mail me the pictures of your job. Thanks

jim

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Subject: 1982 35FC BB


Author:
Jim
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Date Posted: 02/ 26/ 06, 9:57pm

I am purchasing my first BB and have a few questions. When I am on 120v power does the 12 volt lights run off the batteries or is there a dc converter to run the 12volts or does the chargers have to be pluged in? Also how involved is it to install a couple of 1500 watt inverters and possibly solor power to charge batteries and run converter? I know there are quiet a few of 12 volt lights and just want to know how the system works and what to do to improve it. Thank you for any info. Jim

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Subject: Insurance for Vintage Birds


Author:
Alan Ritchie
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Date Posted: 02/ 22/ 06, 3:40pm

I am having trouble getting a 1986 Wanderlodge insured. Is there an agent or insurance company that writes a standard policy on a coach that is 20 years old?

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[> Subject: Re: Insurance for Vintage Birds


Author:
Bob Dilks
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Date Posted: 11/ 16/ 05, 7:15am

Call Progressive Insurance

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[> Subject: Re: Insurance for Vintage Birds


Author:
Howard Truitt
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Date Posted: 11/ 18/ 05, 11:02am

Alan,
I bought an 86 8V92 PT40 this year and checked with four or five insurers and the best deal by far was thru Good Sam the insurance is written by GMAC.
Cost abt. $15,00 a year to join Good Sam. Call Good Sam at 1-800-444-8994
Howard

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[> Subject: Re: Insurance for Vintage Birds


Author:
re brake
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Date Posted: 11/ 23/ 05, 6:12pm

I have a 1983 fc-35 insured by hartford at about $500.00 a year
re

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[> Subject: Re: Insurance for Vintage Birds


Author:
Ben Bass
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Date Posted: 12/ 19/ 05, 7:01pm

Best insruance for us, florida address, '82 FC was Progressive thru an agent. $430 for the year,full coverage w/a decreasing deductible for each year claim free.

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[> Subject: Re: Insurance for Vintage Birds


Author:
Rob
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Date Posted: 12/ 21/ 05, 2:52am

I have a 1968 Bluebird. I got insurance through Camping World RV centers. It is through National General Insurance Company. Call Sue Centoni (714)522-8400 x117 or email her at scentoni@campingworld.com. She can do liability only over the phone. Full coverage requires visual inspection. Very reasonable rates. Tell her I referred you an I want a discount!!! Robert Valenta- Santa Ana, CA.

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[> Subject: Re: Insurance for Vintage Birds


Author:
CARL
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Date Posted: 02/ 22/ 06, 3:40pm

I JUST INSURED MY 1976 BB WITH STATE FARM WITH NO PROBLEM

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Subject: convert queen to twin beds


Author:
ken peckham
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Date Posted: 02/ 22/ 06, 2:00am

Any ball park idea of how much it might cost to convert my 89 fc full queen bed to twin beds?

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Subject: COOKBOOK


Author:
Scott B
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Date Posted: 02/ 21/ 06, 8:16pm

Hello, I am looking to purchase the "cookbook" that was printed in the early 90's ('94) from the Family of Friends .. if any one has one that would like to part with it ..I would like purchase it. Please email me at cme4boats@aol.com I would like some history on this if the book was an annual issue I would like the one that is the same year as our coach 1986FC. If it was not annual I would be interested in ANY year...Thank you in advance!

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Subject: repower 82FC


Author:
erik
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Date Posted: 02/ 21/ 06, 2:14pm

Wondering what a fair price to repower my '82FC would be?
What other engine options are realistic.

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Subject: Hot Water to the Shower


Author:
Marty Charpentier
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Date Posted: 02/ 18/ 06, 5:28pm

The hot water seems to take forever getting to the shower in our 1992 WLWB, not to mention the waste of cold water expecially if dry camping. Does anyone else experience this problem and/or have a solution? Thanks.

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[> Subject: Re: Hot Water to the Shower


Author:
Lucas Willemse
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Date Posted: 02/ 20/ 06, 6:13pm

We had the same problem on our 1980 FC35. Autocirc makes an undersink hot water circulation system that I installed at the sink in the bathroom which is the furthest point from the water heater. I just run the pump for a few minutes in the morning and the water is immediately hot in the shower. This pump runs until it senses hot water and then shuts of. It has a timer and can actually be set to come on automatically. The best price on this unit is from Home Depot they have an online special for $189.00

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Subject: 82 35fc motor conversion


Author:
l smith
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Date Posted: 02/ 12/ 06, 1:49pm

i want to change my 3208n for a 3208t what hind of problems can i expect.

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[> Subject: Re: 82 35fc motor conversion


Author:
harvey lawrence
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Date Posted: 02/ 11/ 06, 9:22am

You can expect to elarge your engine cover, change air intakes,and several other smaller modifcations.

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[> Subject: Re: 82 35fc motor conversion


Author:
Mike Meister
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Date Posted: 02/ 12/ 06, 1:49pm

I am picking up my 80FC35 with a 3208N next weekend and have already been thinking about more hp as well.

I found this post from Jeff Miller

"Although it isn't exactly what you asked, I have made some performance improvements on my existing 3208NA. It will easily run 80+mph in rolling terrain, runs 75mph all day long, climbs better, and accelerates better.
I've changed rear-end ratio from 5.29:1 to 4.63:1 ($1200)
Increased air intake to engine ($100)
turned the full-load point to 3000rpm ($38)
That's it! The best money IMO I've put into my coach, and I've put plenty into it.
I'd certainly look for the extra horsepower if you can get a 250hp to put in, but feel that the little Cat works fine if properly set up and it is much cheaper to install another 3208 as all of your mounts/accessories would otherwise need to change. I don't see any use in a two-speed differential (although I looked into it myself), mostly because you will gain lower gears not higher ones and the beast doesn't need lower gears. A taller ratio still gives you plenty of lower gears for climbing.
Feel free to email me if you have questions."

Jeff Miller
jamiller@iserv.net

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Subject: NAPA Filters


Author:
Jack Richardson
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Date Posted: 02/ 10/ 06, 9:23pm

If you use NAPA filters (made by wix sometimes) I found the 2 Mic,(red)for the RACOR 900 primary filter in a NAPA 3799 box. It is the same red RACOR (RACOR 2040)I get at the RACOR dealer for $12.+. They also have the other Mic. 10, 20, ect.. In a NAPA box with a deep discount with a volume dealer it is about $7.10. The Cat 3208 engine FARR metal box filter, try NAPA 2450, under $50.

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Subject: Rechroming


Author:
Icepick
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Date Posted: 02/ 8/ 06, 4:15pm

Does anyone know who does bumper rechroming in or around Albany, Ga.

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Subject: Bankruptcy


Author:
RollTide
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Date Posted: 01/ 31/ 06, 4:46pm

Is it true Bluebird is going bankrupt and if so, what will this mean to all owners.

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[> Subject: Re: Bankruptcy


Author:
ernie ekberg
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Date Posted: 02/ 3/ 06, 4:26am

Bets thing to do is got to Blue Bird's website and read their press releases. www.blue-bird.com

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Subject: thinking of buying


Author:
Mike S.
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Date Posted: 01/ 20/ 06, 7:36pm

Hello, We are thinking of going full time and are intrested in the 84-87 PT WL for the price and the style. Any suggestions? Things to stay away from? Can we attend one of your rally's? We have a 2001 21ft Chinook Concorse and love being on the road but will need more room for full-time. We will keep our Chinook. Thanks....all suggestions welcome

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[> Subject: Re: thinking of buying


Author:
ernie ekberg
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Date Posted: 01/ 26/ 06, 5:47am

we have Lone Star bird rallies every 2 months or so- everyone is welcome. email me for details, ernie, 83 pt40

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Subject: exhaust blankets


Author:
Jim Riordan
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Date Posted: 01/ 19/ 06, 1:24pm

Jim Riordan Stuart Fl 1988 BB WL wb 8v92 8087-7A40 I am trying to get a complete set of exhaust blankets for my coach tighitco made the oringinal/existing ones called BB to try to find them not in catalog

Can anyone help me with obtaining these

Jim

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Subject: Turbo Shield????


Author:
Kentucky (from Cleveland, OH)
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Date Posted: 01/ 13/ 06, 9:25am

Does anyone know how I can acquire a Turbo Shield??? I hear they're great with gas mileage and that they make your vehicle drive more smoothly. Thanks for your help guys.

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[> Subject: Re: Turbo Shield????


Author:
ernie ekberg
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Date Posted: 06/ 29/ 05, 6:54pm

can you tell us what a turbo shield is?

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[> Subject: Re: Turbo Shield????


Author:
Harvey Lawrence
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Date Posted: 07/ 3/ 05, 1:49pm

I too am interested in hearing all about your Turbo Shield, and just for the record,we best not use gas, good milage or not, because it has a nasty habit of blowing up diesels, turbo shield or not.
Harv

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[> Subject: Re: Turbo Shield????


Author:
Steve Anderson
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Date Posted: 07/ 4/ 05, 7:09am

Try this website.
http://www.heatshieldproducts.com/products.php

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[> [> Subject: Re: Turbo Shield????


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 07/ 10/ 05, 3:51pm

Better yet, try this wedsite.....turboshield.com

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[> [> Subject: Re: Turbo Shield????


Author:
Steve Anderson
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Date Posted: 07/ 12/ 05, 6:56am

Obviously I am thinking of the wrong type of "turbo shield".

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Turbo Shield????


Author:
Kentucky (formerly Cleveland, now Fairbanks, Alaska)
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Date Posted: 01/ 13/ 06, 9:25am

That Turbo Shield looks like a GREAT product. I'm in the process of ordeing one. Thanks buddy

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Subject: 12.5 kw generator


Author:
re brake
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Date Posted: 01/ 10/ 06, 4:13pm

I was running my generator the other day, ran for about 15 minutes and shut itself down. water was coming out under the radiator cap. I assumed overheating, first time ever happened, i let it cool and started it again ( after adding antifreeze and water) the electric fan is not turning. has this ever happed to anyone? I will check voltage to it saturday when i have time to work on it before dark.The motor is thermonstaticly protected but i am not sure how. does anyoneknow where to get manuals forthis unit, i will buy them or send youa deposit so i can have any books copied and returned to you

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[> Subject: Re: 12.5 kw generator


Author:
Leroy Eckert
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Date Posted: 01/ 9/ 06, 6:21pm

Is this a Powertech generator? What year?

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[> Subject: Re: 12.5 kw generator


Author:
ernie ekberg
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Date Posted: 01/ 10/ 06, 4:13pm

Check the breakers on the generator control box. If one is tripped, there will be nooo 240 volts to the fan. Ernie

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Subject: Generator battery not getting charged (1982 PT-40)


Author:
Kevin Ford
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Date Posted: 01/ 5/ 06, 5:14am

The battery on my generator is not getting charged. In
troubleshooting yesterday I disconnected the all of the generator battery cables and I'm getting 12.7V from the coach cable providing voltage until I reconnect the dash voltmeter, then the voltage pulls down to about 5V. The in-dash volt meter does work, so I don't really expect it to be the issue. I therefore assume the problem is load-related or a cable connection problem from the coach charging source(s). I tried to follow the charging source cable, but could not find where it connects on the coach.

Can someone tell me where this cable connects into the charging system or if you have any other insight that would also be very much appreciated?

Thanks!

Kevin L. Ford
1982 PT-40
Richmond, Tx.

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Subject: Batteries on a 1983 35FC


Author:
Urnie Krueger
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Date Posted: 12/ 29/ 05, 9:47pm

I am trying to wire the system so two batteries are used to only start the coach. Too often when the coach sets for awhile it needs to be jumped to start. I have tried a few things - but then the batteries do not charge when the engine is running.
Does anyone have a wiring diagram for this problem?

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[> Subject: Re: Batteries on a 1983 35FC


Author:
Ben Bass
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Date Posted: 12/ 20/ 05, 4:15pm

Hi
No wiring diagram to fix the problem, but I do have a basic diagram from either an 81 or 83 FC. If that would help.
Our 82FC,when started doesn't charge either. However, after it's warmed a bit I find that either A) when we hit the highway, the old girl will start charging, or B) If I'm
we are not moving the coach, just a couple of good blips to the throttle will get her charging.
Don't know if it's common, just one we live with.
Another thought-before we had found/learned about some of the hidden switches,my batteries drained quickly. For when the coach was not in use, I installed knife blade cut-offs on each battery, ginny included.

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[> Subject: Re: Batteries on a 1983 35FC


Author:
DENNIS YOUNG
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Date Posted: 12/ 29/ 05, 9:47pm

I have installed a relay that separates the starting batteries and other batteries. When I start the coach, it energizes and connects all batteries, which allows them all to charge together off the alternator. I also have separate battery chargers for the starting batteries, and house batteries.

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Subject: Headlights for 1982 PT-40


Author:
Kevin
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Date Posted: 12/ 21/ 05, 4:31am

I’m looking to upgrade my headlights on a 1982 PT-40, can anyone tell me the high and low headlight part numbers? (I wanted to have the replacement in hand before taking the old ones out.)

Thanks!
Kevin

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Subject: 2 speed rearend


Author:
Carl Herron
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Date Posted: 12/ 19/ 05, 7:12pm

I have a 79 35ft Bird w/3208 NA and a Richmond rearend does anyone know if there is a 2 speed gear replacement for this housing? Or do I need to get a Eaton set-up.
Thanks
Carl

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[> Subject: Re: 2 speed rearend


Author:
harvey lawence
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Date Posted: 12/ 4/ 05, 9:10pm

I have only seen one really successful conversion to a two speed and this was using an air shift rear axle from a wrecked dump truck.The axle was an Eaton. The best way to use it with the allison four speed was to wait until the allison shifted into the highest gear then shift up the two speed. it increased milage somewhat, and added to top speed. it was shifted down before the automatic began shifting down and was shifted to low for descending hills. shifting was done by an air control lever.

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[> Subject: Re: 2 speed rearend


Author:
Ben Bass
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Date Posted: 12/ 19/ 05, 7:12pm

We purchased an 82FC in '04. It has a 2 spd axle. The previous owner said they used Goody's in Toledo,OH to build it up. They said it came in backing plate to backing plate. I think they sent the rear-end up to be redone.
We do like it tho. Noticibly better road speed on the level, but you will sacrifice some power on the hills. On the lo side, 57mph is about it, but for travelling the backcountry or in town it has it's benefits.
This is more of an observation than a how to, but real glad they did it.

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Subject: New Building


Author:
Howard Truitt
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Date Posted: 11/ 18/ 05, 1:41pm

I'm getting ready to build a storage building for my 86 8V92 PT40. I would appreciate some advise on the concrete pad. I plan on building a 16'x56' building with 14'x14' roll up doors on each end. I had one builder say to compact the dirt well and pour 4" of 2000# concrete with fiber the other says I need to pour 6" of 3000# concrete with wire.
I also plan on putting in a 12' long service pit.
I would appreciate your input.
Howard Truitt
Camilla, Ga.

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[> Subject: Re: New Building


Author:
Oris V
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Date Posted: 12/ 13/ 05, 7:47pm

Howard, I just poured a concrete floor in my polebarn which houses my brother's 83 PT40 and my 92 WLWB. I am a structural engineer in Florida and I poured a 5" thick 3000 psi slab reinforced with wire mesh throughout and 3-#5 rebar located directly under where the wheels of the coaches run. This was poured on well compacted fill. The 3000 psi concrete is much better concrete and is usually not that much more expensive than the 2500 psi concrete. I put a steel trowel finish on the surface of the concrete and then covered the entire finish with visqueen after wetting down the surface the day after the concrete was poured. I kept the visqueen in place for 3 weeks to make sure the concrete was properly cured. After I removed the visqueen, I then moved the Birds into their new "nest". I have not had any random cracking in the surface of the concrete. At the cost of concrete today, this represents a large investment and it pays to spend the extra to do it right. I also told the concrete supplier that I did not want the slump of the concrete to exceed 5" at the time of delivery. Hope this helps.

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Subject: Understanding 1982 FC Air Conditioning


Author:
Jerry Kaehr
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Date Posted: 12/ 9/ 05, 3:40pm

I have been studying vintage Birds so I can intelligently select a unit when I'm ready to buy.

All of the FC units I have seen, except two, have roof air conditioners in addition to the engine/chassis air.

Both of those without roof air conditioners were 1982 FC's.

Can someone explain how the air conditioning on these units is configured and how well it works?

Thanks!

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[> Subject: Re: Understanding 1982 FC Air Conditioning


Author:
Jeff Miller
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Date Posted: 01/ 14/ 04, 5:08pm

I have an '83 with the CruiseAir basement units, they work extremely well. The advantage is the clean rooftop and increased ceiling height for tall folks, the disadvantage is cost to repair and they use some basement storage space.
CruiseAir is common on boats and busses.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Understanding 1982 FC Air Conditioning


Author:
Susan Sohni
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Date Posted: 01/ 16/ 04, 8:02pm

While Jeff is right about the space, (you lose a lot of it to the central air units), one of the other considerations is that the central air is way more quiet than roof top airs. That is one of the things we really like about it and will probably miss it if and when we trade up to a newer model.
Susan
'83 40'WL

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Understanding 1982 FC Air Conditioning


Author:
ernie ekberg
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Date Posted: 12/ 9/ 05, 3:40pm

Susan, where are you located? We have an 83 pt40, also with basement airs. ernie

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[> [> Subject: Re: Understanding 1982 FC Air Conditioning


Author:
re brake
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Date Posted: 12/ 8/ 05, 6:35pm

Jeff: where do you get info on the cruise air?? did you seemy note about cruise controls?
thanks
re

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Subject: Satellite Internet System


Author:
Ken Deneau
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Date Posted: 12/ 9/ 05, 12:04pm

Hi,

Does anyone have any experience with satellite internet products. I am currently researching Direcway, INetVu, and ViaSat, but can't find any consumer data on them. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Ken

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Subject: 1973 wanderlodge 391 ford engine


Author:
Mike K
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Date Posted: 12/ 7/ 05, 10:01pm

Anyone know the tune up spec's, dwell, timing etc.
for a 391 Ford gas engine in a '73 wanderlodge.
Thanks.
Mike
mjklightmedia2@yahoo.com

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[> Subject: Re: 1973 wanderlodge 391 ford engine


Author:
Harvey Lawrence
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Date Posted: 05/ 3/ 05, 5:09pm

Mike,
you might check your local library and see if they have any
1970's chilton repair manuals. it would be listed there. another source could be your localtruck parts store.
I am checking elsewhere also

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[> Subject: Re: 1973 wanderlodge 391 ford engine


Author:
harvey Lawrence
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Date Posted: 05/ 4/ 05, 6:00am

Mike,
After a little further research, we have your info.

The dwell on the ford 391 should be set at from 28 deg. to 32 deg.--30 deg being the ideal setting.
Plugs should be gapped at 35 thousands. Point should be initally set at 15 thousands, however may requre adjusting.
The method to use is to remove the distributor cap, and turn the engine over with the starter with the dwell meter hooked up. You should set the dwell as close to 30 as you can.When you start the engine the dwell can change due to wear on the the distibuter drive shaft, so you may have to start engine . check dwell, then shut down and adjust the points, and repeat the process until you have the dwell as close to 30 as possible when you rv up the motor.
Hope this makes your day
Harvey

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[> [> Subject: Re: 1973 wanderlodge 391 ford engine


Author:
Jerry
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Date Posted: 12/ 7/ 05, 10:01pm

In this day and age I cannot believe that anyone is still running a "points" ignition system. A conversion to electronic ignition will make your engine run better, run longer, no longer need frequent tune-ups, and will improve your fuel efficiency. There were lots of Ford "FE" engines (332,352,390,391truck, 410,428 and the mighty 427) so you should be able to find a conversion kit on the cheap.

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Subject: Seat behind passenger seat


Author:
Ben Kachik
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Date Posted: 11/ 13/ 05, 7:59pm

Does anyone know how seat behind passenger
seat is mounted or bolted down. Former owner
installed new carpeting and never put seat
back. Can't find bolt holes, I believe should
be somewhere in front of right wheel well.
Can someone help with instructions or a diagram
pictures or something. Thank you!
Benji

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[> Subject: Re: Seat behind passenger seat


Author:
Bob Dilks
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Date Posted: 12/ 6/ 05, 9:19am

If the chair you refer to is an "occasional chair" it likely was not bolted down but rather just sat on the carpet. Your message did not include a model or year designation so I am only guessing.

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Subject: gas springs


Author:
re brake
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Date Posted: 12/ 3/ 05, 5:49pm

Does anyone know the orr and orr part number for the gas springs for the inside comparment doors on a 1983 fc-35??
thanks
re

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[> Subject: Re: gas springs


Author:
Bob Dilks
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Date Posted: 12/ 6/ 05, 9:04am

The overhead compartments call for 35 psi gas springs. Measure the length of your current springs and call Orr & Orr with the length and psi requirements. I switched to Blue Bird stocked parts where the overhead compartment part number is 3758794. If you call Blue Bird parts at 800-495-7787 be sure to check the part number for your model coach.

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Subject: 77FC33 in FLorida


Author:
Martha & Joe
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Date Posted: 12/ 4/ 05, 7:03am

Where can we procure replacement latches and hardware for overhead compartments? Should there be leveling jacks on this rig? If so, they have been removed and trying to decide if they are needed.

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Subject: Am I too tall?


Author:
Eric Peterson
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Date Posted: 12/ 1/ 05, 12:25pm

I am in the very early stages of looking for an Rv. I like the older Bluebirds a lot and feel the quality and construction ( from what I have seen on this site ) justifies the higher cost. My first question, and this may rule out a Wanderlodge alltogether, is- How much interior height is there in the coach. I am 6' 3 1/2" tall and am concerned about headroom. I realize this may vary some from model to model or perhaps what options are installed ( a roof top AC that might hang down inside?), but any general answers to this question would be much appreciated.

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[> Subject: Re: Am I too tall?


Author:
Blair
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Date Posted: 11/ 25/ 05, 3:56pm

You don't have a problem. You should fit in just about any model bird with a smidge of room left over.


You will get more headroom in the wide body models as the factory increased the headroom by several inches.
If you really want headroom, go to the 2004 models and newer as again, headroom was bumped up another couple of inches.

I sold my '86 PT38 because of a bent back and canted neck. I visited every Chiropractic office in every major city on our last trip. As much as I loved the old girl, she had to go. As I was not going to plunk down several hundred grand for a used "new" 2004 or newer coach, we now have another brand coach.

I write this with authority as I stand in bare feet a little over 6'7" +..

Blair in Oregon...email me if you have more questions.

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[> Subject: Re: Am I too tall?


Author:
Brian Roth
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Date Posted: 11/ 28/ 05, 6:37pm

I'm 6'3" and love my 1981 Wanderlodge. I duck on occasion, its a habit.

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[> Subject: Re: Am I too tall?


Author:
Don
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Date Posted: 12/ 1/ 05, 12:25pm

On my coach which is a front control (FC, non-pusher), I can just touch the bottom of the AC units if I try to stand as tall as possible; I'm 6' early in the day. The air conditioners do hang say 2-1/2 to 3 inches.

Pushers and the 1979 XV model are taller in the interrior.

Regards, Don

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Subject: 12 Volt wiring


Author:
Brian Roth
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Date Posted: 11/ 30/ 05, 11:46am

I am having issues with my '81's 12 volt interior lighting and left blinker. I have been to four shops and none will touch the wiring. I need a wiring diagram. any suggestions? I'm in Orange County CA

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[> Subject: Re: 12 Volt wiring


Author:
ernie ekberg
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Date Posted: 11/ 29/ 05, 5:01am

ralph fullenwider can help you. email: rlf47@swbell.net

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[> Subject: Re: 12 Volt wiring


Author:
Bob Dilks
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Date Posted: 11/ 30/ 05, 11:46am

The inverters in your fluorescent lights have degraded and need to be replaced. On the turn signal switch, call Blue Bird Parts at 800-495-7787. Blue Bird will probably not stock the part anymore but ask for the vendor's part number and the vendor's phone number. In all likelihood your turn signal switch is made by TRW and is their part number480857. If that is correct, you can buy the part from any Freightliner dealer as part RGT480857

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Subject: Ride in 80's Wanderlodge


Author:
Bob Allwein
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Date Posted: 11/ 28/ 05, 2:35pm

My wife and I are thinking about getting a good used RV and are interested in an 80's vintage Wanderlodge. My wife has cronic pain and we wanted to know what the ride was like on this type of unit. We have not ridden in one.

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[> Subject: Re: Ride in 80's Wanderlodge


Author:
ernie ekberg
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Date Posted: 11/ 2/ 05, 4:30pm

Bob-- for the best and safest ride, you can't go wrong with a Wanderlodge. I'm on my 2nd coach, and when it comes time to trade-- it will be another bluebird. Ernie Ekberg

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[> Subject: Re: Ride in 80's Wanderlodge


Author:
Janice Condon
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Date Posted: 11/ 9/ 05, 5:51am

We have an '82 which we love. The ride is great, but the best thing is that you can move around in a motorhome. We are thinking about getting another coach, but it will be a bird.

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[> Subject: Re: Ride in 80's Wanderlodge


Author:
Don
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Date Posted: 11/ 11/ 05, 12:54pm

Hello,

Later 1980 busses and newer have air ride that should provide a smoother ride than springs. You may choose to update the shocks if they have begun to fail. Be sure that all zerk fitting are lubbed, there are quite a few of them and many lube shops will flake out and only lube the overtly obvious ones. The longer the wheel base should reduce bumps as well. People have reported good results with over sized tires and wheels up front to tame a spring suspension.

Mine road like crap until I finaly lubed the suspension myself. Mine has springs and needs new shock so it is not all that smooth but it does handle well in the mountanes, where an air suspension might handle a bit more spungy. It is a short 31 foot model as well.

Regards, Don
1980sb31

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[> Subject: Re: Ride in 80's Wanderlodge


Author:
Phil Corpus
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Date Posted: 11/ 28/ 05, 2:35pm

My wife and I just returned home from Texas where we picked up our 'new' 85PT40. She suffers from lower back pain and becomes uncomfortable within a couple of hours riding in a car.

She manned the copilot seat all the way from Texas to California--one day, I covered almost 700 miles--and was amazed she had no problems. Too bad it's impractical to use our BB to go shopping.

I limited our search to the model years that came standard with air suspension, specifically because of her back problem.

Phil

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Subject: fresh water tanks/front bumper chrome/GPS & TV


Author:
Roland Condon
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Date Posted: 11/ 26/ 05, 12:51pm

I'm in the process of refurbishing my 1982 35" FC bird as my wife and I are going on the road. I have several issues I need some help with.

I'm looking for a 100 gal. fresh water tank, either original equipment or a substitute.

I'm also looking for a used front bumper in good condition or a place to get my bumper rechromed, or a new front bumper for my '82 bird. I've had mine rechromed but the tank was not long enough and it didn't hold up.

I also have some small parts that I need rechromed and I'm looking for a place where someone has had a good experience having parts rechromed. We live in Maryland.

I'm also thinking about purchasing a GPS system. Can anyone suggest a user friendly system that is not too pricey. Also,any suggestions about TV reception equipment?

I also have trouble with my fluoroescent lighing, when I turn them on they flicker and are very dim.

Thanks for the help. Roland

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[> Subject: Re: fresh water tanks/front bumper chrome/GPS & TV


Author:
Don
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Date Posted: 11/ 21/ 05, 12:38pm

Hello again,

On mine the tank is a very tight fit with numerous angles and contours to fit the space. I had no luck finding a replacement. The original tank was made by INCA, from memory. I sent them detailed drawings when they asked for them, then they flatly refused to reply to any further e-mail inquires regarding if this tank was still available…I guess not.

Your tank may be completely different, but on mine the overflow fitting is placed such that the first real hill you hit you’ll loose probably 20 gallons. If you could improve on the overflow tube set-up you might be able to go with a slightly smaller tank, that would be much easier to build, yet have the same effective capacity.

The 60 second tech RV book has an overflow tube suggestion that fits into the tank from the rear to the front that would work well and be easy to implement if you have to have a tank built.


Your fluorescent lights probably aren’t getting the correct voltage. The ballast design is fairly old as well; perhaps someone already swapped them out for you. An easy DC test would be to locate your coach load center(s) in the overhead. With your coach plugged into shore power (or generator), turn all your dc accessories on: lights, heaters, etc.. Now, in the overhead start touching the wires, splices, connectors, ect.. Any hot? If so, poor connections via corrosion, contamination, loose mechanical connections, or even an electrical short is giving you grief.

Expect to find multiple issues… Anything hot to the touch needs to be corrected or heaters wont fire, fluorescent bulbs will grow black and die with their ballast, batteries never seem to hold up as you suspect they should, and fire.

These hot spots represent a voltage drop, i.e., work being done, in this case inappropriately. These can of course occur anywhere along the patch between the battery and the intended load.

Be nosey.

Regards, Don

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[> Subject: Re: fresh water tanks/front bumper chrome/GPS & TV


Author:
Bob Dilks
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Date Posted: 11/ 26/ 05, 12:51pm

Your fluorescent ballast (inverters) are failing. The original supplier is in business. Call RGM Industries at 321-269-4720

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Subject: fresh water tank repair


Author:
Roland Condon
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Date Posted: 11/ 20/ 05, 8:34am

We have an '82 FC with a crack in the fresh water tank. We were told it may be repaired, but we don't know how. Can anyone help, or does anyone have one to sell?

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[> Subject: Re: fresh water tank repair


Author:
Lawrence Thornell
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Date Posted: 11/ 9/ 05, 8:22pm

Check with your local body shop. They weld plastic bumpers. They will need a rod that is the same material as the tank. I had this done on the tank of my first bird with total success.

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[> Subject: Re: fresh water tank repair


Author:
Don Duncan
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Date Posted: 11/ 10/ 05, 4:54pm

Hello,

If it is a whitish/transluscent tank, kind of waxy fealing then it is LDPE (Low density polyethylene). I recently did my tank and it is no small task if you need to remove the tank.

This stuff is weldable with LDPE. It melts and blends w/o burning if you use the correct temperature range. But is sticky to work with and you have to melt the plastic you are working with as well (the tank). You will have a hard time finding the rod and it may be spendy. A local plastics shop may have a bit on the shelf, but probably not. Lots of folks weld plastic but this stuff is a bit obscure. DO NOT use an open flame as the plastic will burn and look horible and leak like a spundge, at best.

Try getting a kit off of ebay, hot iron style, but avoid the hot air style kit as this takes more skill.

If you have rot by the tank, soft wood that you can easily chip away with your fingers, don't by surprised if the wood under the tank is just like bark dust. This would is or was nailed down. As the wood rots you may find in time that these nail heads will sooner or later penetrate the bottom of your tank.

I put allot of effort into my tank repair and it has held so far, about 6 months. Forget glues, they will not permanently bond to polyethylene. You need to get the plastics to flow together.

Hot glue sticks work well as well and are dirt cheap to aquire. Very simular material to ldpe but flow better w/o burning. I used ldpe welding rod first then nuked the general area with glue stick.

Expect more than one leak. Aplly a bit of air pressure, by mouth with tube and check for leaks.

Regards, Don Duncan
1980SB31
Beaverton, Oregon

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[> [> Subject: Re: fresh water tank repair


Author:
Roland
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Date Posted: 11/ 20/ 05, 8:34am

Thanks for your help. I'm going to try to find a replacement.

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Subject: hood support, gas shocks


Author:
re brake
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Date Posted: 09/ 29/ 05, 3:24am

several questions on my newly accquared ,85 FC-35
how was the engine cover orginally supported?, i am using a stick,doesn't one have to remove the lower portion of the cover to have the valves ran( adjusted).
does anyone know the orr and orr part number for the gas springs? (for inside doors) how would you figure the force required to hold the door open? i was going to use a fish scale to measure the weight amd half the poundage.

thanks for all your help, all of you togeather have a lot of knowledge and i thank you for sharing it

re brake

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[> Subject: Re: hood support, gas shocks


Author:
Don
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Date Posted: 11/ 16/ 05, 8:18am

Hello,

Yes, the bottom of the doghouse does need to be pulled to access the vavle covers. The top portion on mine is a telescoping 2 part metal support on the drivers side. Nothing fancy.

On mine the lower section was practically glued in place by caulk that some one had put down. So the first time might be a pain in the rear to remove it. If your not going to do the valves yourself I would disassemble the dog house first, then deliver the coach to the shop in question.

The lower section is bolted down and does have some screws attaching to the front of the bus.

Don

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Subject: Wanderlodge Phone #


Author:
Howard
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Date Posted: 11/ 16/ 05, 8:09am

I have a 1981 33 foot Bird and need some advise reguarding the fuel tank and line routing. Does anyone know if the fuel tanks on Birds have a screen or baffel of any kind? I would appreciate it if anyone knew the Wonderlodge service Phone number. If anyone knows where I could get a copy of the fuel schematic I certenly would be greatful.

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[> Subject: Re: Wanderlodge Phone #


Author:
Bob Dilks
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Date Posted: 10/ 10/ 05, 5:44pm

Call Bennie Collier 800-992-6337

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[> Subject: Re: Wanderlodge Phone #


Author:
Don
[Edit]

Date Posted: 11/ 16/ 05, 8:09am

Hello,

On my 1980 there is no in tank strainer, just a pick up tube and a return port as well. There is a spare pick up tube and return port that is unused that I tapped for diesel for a future genset. Just so you know there are extra ports. There is also a vent port w/quarter inch tubing too.

Regards, Don

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Subject: new owner help 83FC


Author:
Erik
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Date Posted: 11/ 14/ 05, 6:11pm

I need help figuring out all the controls and features on my '83FC. Lots of features, switches I don't understand and changes made over its life including a change to a cummins turbo diesel.
Is anyone near Reno, NV or in N.California that can give me info or a walkthrough, I would be eternally grateful. Thank you.

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Subject: freeze protectionn wires


Author:
ernie ekberg
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Date Posted: 11/ 13/ 05, 5:34am

We have an early 80's PT with the original blue freeze protection wires for our water pipes. Since this wiring is so old, I would like to update them. Has anyone done that and what did you replace it with? Thanks, Ernie-83pt40

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[> Subject: Re: freeze protectionn wires


Author:
Don
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Date Posted: 11/ 12/ 05, 6:19pm

Hello,

The best is self regulating heat/trace tape. It is also spendy. Basically, the colder it gets the hotter it gets. Two leads run the length of the tape, the material in between is heat sensitive. If you place an ice cube on a section of the tape, that area in contact with the ice cube will heat up. Rated in watts per foot, I used 5 watts per foot around copper pipes, I think 3 watts per foot is max with plastics.

Because it is self regulating, it can wrap arround itself w/o overheating. It can be turned on by manual switch, thermostat etc.

Your current heat tape is not self regulating and probably is turned on via built in thermostat. It is a simple resistive loop.

On my bird this resistive loop was double wrapped around the pipes and covered with what was now dried out duct tape. It was wrapped around itself, which is not recommended these days as far as I could tell. There were some minor burn marks from this tape on itself and the freshwater tank. I this the thermostat had long stopped working and it was making no heat.

Hopefully, you wont have to take half as much of your coach appart as I did to fully replace it. I have a 2' section behind the shower that I still cant quite access.

A tip. This stuff is fairly obscure outside of industry. Expect 5 bucks a foot for the a non-armored type. Contact a local insulator firm(s) and see if they'll make you a deal on some scrap pieces. Anything less than 30' might be scrap to these guys...

It can be spliced and shortend as necessary, some folks install a neon light at the far end so that you can see that light if the tape is getting power. At regular room temperature mine radiated a slight heat.

Good luck, Don

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[> [> Subject: Re: freeze protectionn wires


Author:
ernie ekberg
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Date Posted: 11/ 13/ 05, 5:34am

Thank you, Don for the reply. I didn't know there were so many varieties. Ernie Ekberg

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Subject: towing


Author:
marvin
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Date Posted: 11/ 10/ 05, 5:27am

Will a PT 40 with 6V92 be overloaded towing a 2005 F 150 supercrew.
Also does anyone know if there is a kit[I know there is one for the Explorer] to tow this truck 4 wheels down. It is an F 150 w/ 5.4 engine 4X4 w/ elec shift 4 w/d and auto tranny.
thanks, marvin

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[> Subject: Re: towing


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 11/ 11/ 05, 2:45am

Marvin, I tow a 3/4 ton Suburban ( 2500 ) behind my 1983 FC with a 3208 cat. 225 hp and there is no problem. The suburban weighs 6700 LBS, your ford I would think weighs less. You have ( I think ) 300 hp with the DD 6v92.

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Subject: Trim Plate For Led Lites


Author:
Jack Richardson
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Date Posted: 11/ 4/ 05, 7:15pm

Has anyone seen or made trim plates to put behind the new led tail/directional lites I put on my 85 FC, when I took off the school bus lites. Jack

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Subject: Kohler Generator


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 10/ 31/ 05, 5:14pm

I have a 12.5 Kohler generator on a 83FC BB with a perkins diesel. Can anyone tell me how to change the fuel filter and water separator and also the parts no. of the oil filter and fuel/water filter.

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[> Subject: Re: Kohler Generator


Author:
Mike
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Date Posted: 10/ 26/ 05, 11:42am

Sam,
I have the same 12.5 Kohler with the Perkins on my 83 PT40. Here's the cross referencee chart that I built for my genset filters.

..................NAPA...WIX...Baldwin...Carquest...AMSOIL
Fuel Filters...3166..33166.....-..........-.........-
Racor..........3208..33208...PF598......86208.......-
Oil Filter.....1068......-.........-............-.......SDF96

As far as changing the filters, if you have a Racor filter on yours, remove cover, remove filter cartridge, insert new racor filter cartridge, re-fill filter housing with fresh diesel fuel (or ATF), replace new rubber o-rings on cover (two - one on cap, one on center bolt) and re-install cover. That's the easy one.

As for the fuel filter on the side of the engine, it's a real pain as it is an insert filter, sandwiched between the housing top which is attached to the engine block and the bottom cap which comes off with the filter. The filter and the bottom cap are held in place with a bolt that extends down through the top, through the filter and screws into the bottom cap. You should have instructions in your blue box for changing this filter, but the way that works for me is messy, but as follows: hand under filter assembly, remove bolt on top (7/16" maybe? - also may need to remove hollow stud with two fuel lines covering the center bolt in order to remove the 7/16 bolt), discard old filter, remove rubber o-rings in top cap (two - one in cap, one on center bolt) and replace with new (light coat of grease holds them in place), place new filter in bottom cap (may be a new o-ring there also, can't remember). Then (here's where it gets messy) I hold the filter and bottom cap tightly together, fill with fuel and carefully place it up in the top cap and re-tighten the center bolt. Messy, but saves bleeding time. You can finish filling the filter by carefully pouring more fuel down the hollow stud mounting hole. You can then try to pump the little AC primer next to the filter, but I've never seen it do much to prime the system. Almost assuredly, you will need to crank the engine while loosening the injectors until you bleed the air out of them and the engine re-fires as you re-tighten the injectors. Really a fun job. NOT. Sometimes the Perkins engines can be a real bear to get re-primed. Don't overheat the starter by cranking too long at any one time, and don't run your battery down if it doesn't start fairly quickly (throw a battery charger on the battery while doing the bleeding, if necessary to keep from running it down).

Good luck,
Mike

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[> Subject: Re: Kohler Generator


Author:
Jack Richardson
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Date Posted: 10/ 31/ 05, 5:14pm

When changing the fuel filter, if you loosen the banjo (that's what we called them on our British cars)fitting on the discharge side of the filter, and use the manual overide (tickler)on the fuel pump until fuel comes out, it will usually get most of the air out. If you have fuel seepage around the fittings, buy new copper washers, and the little rubber O rings for the small fittings on the fuel lines. Continued wrenching will eventually strip the pot metal. Also if you use NAPA filters, compare the 1048 to the 1806 that they call for also in their book. The 1806 is longer. Ask your NAPA dealer to give you the price break they give to big filter users. The 1798 for the Cat 3208, and the 1806 are in the $6-7 dollar range. That means use their account # and pay cash. There are plenty of Kohler users and repairers out there that will be glad to help you fix any problem. A manual is money well spent, if you have any questions E Mail me Jack

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Subject: bmc versus regular bird chassis


Author:
richard surprenant
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Date Posted: 10/ 30/ 05, 6:08am

Since BMC is not a bluebird chassis should one avoid those used coaches.

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[> Subject: Re: bmc versus regular bird chassis


Author:
Ernie Ekberg
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Date Posted: 10/ 30/ 05, 3:00pm

The BMC is a fine coach. I would not hesitate to own one. Ernie Ekberg, 83pt40

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Subject: Question about 84 FC 35


Author:
Gail Allen Remy
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Date Posted: 10/ 17/ 05, 5:58am

Hello:
I am looking at a 84 FC 35 to buy. It has the rear queen bedroom. I am confused , IT HAS NO REAR WINDOW, just solid rear wall. I have not seen this on any bluebird of this vintage. Is this unusual? Can someone inform me about this model. Is this a problem for resale in the future. I dont want to purchase a problem.
Thank you
G. Remy

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[> Subject: Re: Question about 84 FC 35


Author:
ernie ekberg
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Date Posted: 09/ 24/ 05, 2:31pm

The coach may have had a broken window, and perhaps the previos owner opted to close them off. Where is the coach located?

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[> Subject: Re: Question about 84 FC 35


Author:
Bob Lawrence
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Date Posted: 09/ 30/ 05, 7:57pm

We have an 84 PT36. A cover was made (I assume at the factory) that covers the rear windows. I had the cover off and noticed the rear windows. A member of our bird group has an 86 PT40 that has the same setup. Inside of our coaches we have closets in the back behind our queen beds.
So to answer your question, it is not at all unusual, I think they all have this setup.

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[> Subject: Re: Question about 84 FC 35


Author:
Harvey Lawrence
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Date Posted: 10/ 17/ 05, 5:58am

I believe that was an option in 1984 and made standard in later years. The factory simply covered the outside with a metal cover and the inside with whatever. Also some owners had that modification done to be styled after the converted Provost busses.
Harv

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Subject: Glass sunroof weatherstrip


Author:
Robert Britton
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Date Posted: 09/ 25/ 05, 7:12pm

I need to replace the weatherstrip on the glass sunroof of my 87FC. Does anyone know where I might be able to find the weatherstrip?
Thanks!
Robert Britton

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Subject: PT36 shower drain


Author:
Robin Williamson
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Date Posted: 09/ 18/ 05, 6:31pm

We have had a PT36 for many years. The shower drain is getting a bit slow. Would like to know a safe way of cleaning it before it stops up alltogether.
Has anybody any experience with this?

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[> Subject: Re: PT36 shower drain


Author:
Harvey Lawrence
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Date Posted: 07/ 18/ 05, 7:19am

the drain probably suffers from years of whatever and hair and the like. I would drain my grey tank, open the valve & put a bucket under it, then try a good brand of household drain cleaner. Let it set a bit and flush.
If that does not work try a snake down the pipe through to the tank. Also check your roof plumbing vent pipe to make sure you do not have any barn swallows or the like.
Harv

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[> Subject: Re: PT36 shower drain


Author:
Jim Scoggins
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Date Posted: 07/ 21/ 05, 9:27am

Grab the drain "plug" itself and pull it out. The trailing plug assembly will probably be wrapped in hair. Also, put a little hook in a 12 inch piece of coat hangar, push it into the drain and twirl it around. You will catch a bunch more hair. Then push the drain plug assembly back into the hole--should be OK then.

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[> Subject: Re: PT36 shower drain


Author:
re brake
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Date Posted: 09/ 18/ 05, 6:31pm

what you can do is take a piece of number 12 electrical wire about a foot long . take the insulation off one end and spread the wires out in a circle.stick this down the drain and twist it around it will grab the hair. keep doing it until it comes up clean

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Subject: Paint problems


Author:
Butch Charpentier
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Date Posted: 09/ 17/ 05, 2:04pm

I have Blue Bird Cancer, which is the galvanic action on my conpartment doors around the handels. Now I can have it touched up but I have been informed that it will reaccur within a year or two. Has anyone had this problem with their early 90s Bird and found a solution?

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Subject: water in air system


Author:
Joey Breaux
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Date Posted: 09/ 10/ 05, 2:50pm

I have water in the air system. When i use the air hose
water comes out. It's a 1990 bird. Help /

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[> Subject: Re: water in air system


Author:
e mcstay
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Date Posted: 08/ 24/ 05, 8:58pm

the name breaux- must be from louisiana.try draining the air tanks.ed lonesome dove.

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[> Subject: Re: water in air system


Author:
mbulriss
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Date Posted: 08/ 25/ 05, 1:06pm

In addition to draining the tanks, I think I'd be checking the air dryer system for proper operation also. Do you hear the air dryer cycling when the coach is running?
Mike 83 & 91 PT40

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[> [> Subject: Re: water in air system


Author:
J B
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Date Posted: 08/ 27/ 05, 12:17pm

Where is the dryer system and where is the main air tank

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: water in air system


Author:
mbulriss
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Date Posted: 09/ 10/ 05, 2:41pm

Been traveling and just saw this follow-up question. The air dryer removes moisture from the air system that provides air for your air brakes, air suspension, and *many* other items on most Birds. If the air dryer ever quits working in the winter and you have water in the system and you park overnight in freezing weather, when you get up in the morning ready to go and nothing happens, your brakes are locked up, frozen, because of water in the lines. Since you have water coming out your air line, you probably need this item serviced. The air dryer is under the Bird, usually located near the differential. Air comes from the compressor on the engine into the bottom of the dryer, which then circulates the air to remove moisture and other contaminants, before the clean/dry air is sent on to the rest of the system. When you periodically hear the air under the bus go whoosh, the unit is purging itself, backflushing itself and blowing condensed water and oil out from the air system before it gets to the tanks, lines, air bags and air brakes. The air dryer has a dessicant cartridge (to remove the moisture) that is replaceable, a small electric heater on the bottom which is replaceable, and the purge valve is re-buildable. It is a standard Bendix part with replacement parts available at any good auto/truck parts place. **DO NOT** crawl under the Bird to work on this, or any other, part without auxiliary jack stands and/or auxiliary jacks under the frame. **DO NOT** rely on the leveling jacks. You must remove all air from the system before working on this unit and the air suspension will drop the body 4-6 inches, onto you, without the proper precautions of the external jacks. There should be documentation in your blue box on the air dryer. Do not attempt working on this system if you are not mechanically inclined.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: water in air system


Author:
mbulriss
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Date Posted: 09/ 10/ 05, 2:50pm

Missed the air tank portion of the question. Refer to the previous response's caution on blocking up the frame before proceeding. There should be three air tanks on your 90. There should be one each over the top of the grey and waste water tanks, and there should be another one over the front axle. That's where they are on my 83 PT. Have not crawled under my 91 yet. They all have drains on them that you have to get to from under the bus. Since draining the tanks removes all the air from the system, I say once again: the air suspension will drop and the bus will fall on you unless you use external jack stands or jacks to hold the frame up. Get the idea to stay safe?

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Subject: PT-40 Geneator and in-out Problem


Author:
Kevin Ford
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Date Posted: 09/ 6/ 05, 8:19am

I’am working on a problem with my '82 PT-40 Kohler Generator and I need some help.

Problem Description:
1. While trying to start my generator from one of the inside switches suddenly the switch would no longer kick in the Solenoid.
2. Once this happened I then tried to open/extend the generator, but the generator in-out switch was dead also.
3. Since I was actually working on the generator I had just had it extended a few minutes earlier so it seemed to stop working in conjunction with the starter switch.
4. Is there a connection between these two switches that I need to seek out?
5. Or something else anyone would suggest?

And if anyone has any trouble shooting tips for the Kohler Generator that will not start that would also be welcomed. That was the original problem I was working on.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

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[> Subject: Re: PT-40 Geneator and in-out Problem


Author:
ernie ekberg
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Date Posted: 08/ 30/ 05, 5:24am

Kevin, in your generator switch compartment there are a couple of fuses on the front wall. see if one of them is blown. I had the same thing go out in mine and one of those controled the pump. ernie-83pt40

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[> Subject: Re: PT-40 Geneator and in-out Problem


Author:
Bob Dilks
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Date Posted: 09/ 6/ 05, 8:19am

There are two solenoids associated with the generator engine, the starter solenoid and the fuel shut off solenoid. Do you mean the engine would not crank, or if it would crank, that it would not start? There are also two micro switches in the generator slide tray that could cause a malfunction in opening or closing the generator slide.

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Subject: cleaning the motor portion of refer


Author:
Betty Umpstead
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Date Posted: 08/ 30/ 05, 9:33am

We have a 1982 BB.the refer is not orginal but was replaced about 10 years ago with a Norcold 3-way.All of a sudden it quit working.Is there not a way that the motor portion can be cleaned without going to a repair shop?I read some where in one of your Q&A section that you can,but cannot find it again.Any help would be very appreciated.Repair shops are expense.Thank you
Betty Umpstead

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[> Subject: Re: cleaning the motor portion of refer


Author:
Steve Anderson
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Date Posted: 08/ 29/ 05, 9:46am

Betty, Since this is a 3 way refrigerator there are a few things we need to define. The refer requires 12 volts to operate a circuit board that tells the refrigerator to operate in 12 volt mode 110 volt mode or in gas mode. So the first thing would be to determine that the refrigerator has 12 volts to the controller circuit board. It could be that you have a blown fuse. Since this refrigerator is not original, you will have to determine where the fuse is if you do not have the 12 volts for the controller. If you do have power to the controller are you able to change the mode from electric to gas? If not your controller board could be bad.

These RV refrigerators do not have a motor. They operate by heating and cooling the gas inside the refer tubing. The heating is done either by gas heat or electric heat (12 V or 110 V).

There are lots of other possible problems such as a bad thermostat, leaking of the refrigerant gas (usually accompanied with a really bad odor), or poor air circulation for the heaters, but you need to determine the items in my first paragraph first.

Steve

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[> [> Subject: Re: cleaning the motor portion of refer


Author:
Betty Umpstead
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Date Posted: 08/ 30/ 05, 9:33am

Steve,
Thank you for your reply.The 12V for the refer does work,the control panel lights up.We can also switch it from electric to gas no problem.We have not smelled gas leaking.Everything seems to be working except the refer does not get cold.
Thank You
Betty

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Subject: rockwell axel R-155 in a 1984 pt40


Author:
Marvin Skaggs
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Date Posted: 08/ 22/ 05, 8:55am

What would the fluid capacity be.
thanks, marvin

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[> Subject: Re: rockwell axel R-155 in a 1984 pt40


Author:
mbulriss
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Date Posted: 08/ 25/ 05, 1:15pm

If you mean the differential capacity, get a five gallon container of fluid because it is going to take about 4.5 gallons to re-fill it. Should be much cheaper in a 5 gal container rather than quarts or gallons. Get a BIG bucket before opening the drain plug!
Mike 83 & 91 PT40

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Subject: Water Heater 1988 BB wbwl 40'


Author:
Jim Riordan
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Date Posted: 08/ 22/ 05, 10:19am

Trying to find waterheater in my newly purchased vintage bird

Jim

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[> Subject: Re: Water Heater 1988 BB wbwl 40'


Author:
mbulriss
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Date Posted: 08/ 25/ 05, 1:09pm

It should be in the far rear corner on the driver's side, in or under a closet usually.
Mike 83 & 91 PT40

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Subject: transmision cooler


Author:
ed mcstay
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Date Posted: 08/ 22/ 05, 8:01pm

i have an 83fc and am looking to put an trans. oil cooler on it. what have you done to your bird to cool the trans. oil.

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[> Subject: Re: transmision cooler


Author:
ernie ekberg
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Date Posted: 08/ 23/ 05, 6:18pm

Ed- on my 84 35FC, the transmission cooler was mounted under curb side forward compartment. It had a heavy duty wire mesh under it to protect it from debris. Ernie-83PT40

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Subject: A/B switch


Author:
david bell
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Date Posted: 08/ 22/ 05, 10:24am

On a 1989 PT 40, can anyone tell me where I can locate the A/B switch for cable/antenna.

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[> Subject: Re: A/B switch


Author:
Jim Scoggins
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Date Posted: 07/ 21/ 05, 9:33am

Sometimes located in the compartment just above the refrigerator oor the overhead compartment on the right side just ahead of the dinnette

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[> Subject: Re: A/B switch


Author:
Steve Saraga
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Date Posted: 07/ 30/ 05, 12:18pm

In my 1988 PT40 WB, it is in the right upper overhead compartment, to the right of the TV.

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[> Subject: Re: A/B switch


Author:
im Riordan
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Date Posted: 08/ 22/ 05, 10:24am

Had same problem Starboard side overhead cabinet forward of the dinette, above rotator for antenna

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Subject: Water pump


Author:
HUBERT HARRIEN
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Date Posted: 08/ 19/ 05, 4:44pm

I HAVE AN 81 35FC , 100 GAL WATER TANK, REAR FULL SIZE BED AND THE WATER PUMP SEEMS TO BE NOT OPERATING. WHERE IS IT LOCATED? I ALSO SEEM TO BE LOSING AIR FROM THE AIR TANK
I TAPPED ON THE VALVE AND THE AIR LEAK SLOWED DOWN. IS THERE A REBUILD KIT FOR THE AIR VALVE?

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[> Subject: Re: Water pump


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 08/ 20/ 05, 2:31am

I have a 83 FC 35',and the water pump is located under the kitchen sink. Could be that your belt is lose or needs to be replaced. That would be where I would start.

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Subject: Wanderlodge mechanic in Las Vegas vicinity


Author:
Yvonne Deligiorgis
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Date Posted: 08/ 8/ 05, 12:11am

Our family recently purchased a 1970 Wanderlodge in Las Vegas, Nevada. It appears to have been a one owner vehicle and has been parked for a number of years. We need to find someone in the Las Vegas/Henderson area who can assist us in getting this vehicle road-ready. Since it hasn't been driven (or even had the motor started as near as we can tell) it needs a complete review or evaluation of what needs to be done. It has a Ford engine and runs on gasoline. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks very much.

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[> Subject: Re: Wanderlodge mechanic in Las Vegas vicinity


Author:
ernie ekberg
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Date Posted: 08/ 8/ 05, 5:50pm

ralph fullenwider could assist you- rlf47@swbell.net

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Subject: 77FC35 rear airbag suspension


Author:
Leo Doon
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Date Posted: 06/ 23/ 05, 5:11pm

I'm having trouble with getting my old bird level after local shop replaced rear springs & shocks( listed to one side). The spring carrige is cocked forward at an angle and the airbags do not look alined. shop told me airbag suspension not factory but put on after the fact?(older GMC)The dogbone bushings were dryrot and shop rigged something but it doesn't hold carrige properly and rear of buss is 3to4" higher than front. anyone have any ideas how to fix? $3k spent sofar :(
BTW: great site

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[> Subject: Re: 77FC35 rear airbag suspension


Author:
Harvey Lawrence
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Date Posted: 06/ 24/ 05, 8:30am

I had a 35 ft 79 with after market air bags. the rear springs had one end anchored to a spring shackle and the other end tied to the bottom of the air bag. If yours is like this then it is possible that there is an adjustment on the air bag end linkage. If not, is it possible to absorb that 3to 4 inches by adjusting air bag pressure?
Harvey

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Subject: shoreline attached switch


Author:
Brownell Christof
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Date Posted: 06/ 21/ 05, 10:44am

I have a 78 Blue Bird Wanderlodge. What does the shoreline attached switch on the dash board do? I can't seem to figure out any difference when I'm plugged in to 110v. Also, I want to avoid overcharging my batteries when I'm plugged in. Is there a automatic control for this? And one more question, on the dash I have a broken off switch with no label and when I switch it, I get an alarm sound from a cylinder on top off the engine. What is this for? Thank you very much for a reply, sincerely, Christof

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[> Subject: Re: shoreline attached switch


Author:
Bill
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Date Posted: 06/ 16/ 05, 5:14am

Christof,

Go to This web site

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/wanderlodge/

You may get more responses, I am not familiar with a 1978

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[> Subject: Re: shoreline attached switch


Author:
Steve Anderson
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Date Posted: 06/ 21/ 05, 10:44am

Your 78 May be different than my 79. My 79 has a "Safeline system that is plugged in to the outlets below the shift lever. When there is 110 v at that outlet the Safeline detects that voltage. Then when the engine start key is turned to on the Safeline lets you know that you are starting the engine and that you are still attached to shore power. It lets you know with a blinking light and or a buzzer(on mine the buzzer is switchable to off). This is supposed to keep you from driving away with shore power plugged in. Interesting to note....the duplex outlet along side the drivers seat where the Safeline is plugged into is not switched off when the master selector switch just inside the door is selected to off. It is wired around the selector switch to still provide voltage to the Safeline through a couple of switch boxes inside the door near the master selector switch one for the upper outlet of the duplex and the other for the lower outlet. We often use this to switch a 110 v nightlight that we plug into the safeline outlet.

Steve Anderson
79 FC 35
Poulsbo Wa

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Subject: Tail Light


Author:
Don Jones
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Date Posted: 05/ 26/ 05, 5:44pm

There is an entry in the parts section:Tail light lens if you have a 90 to 97 bird with the milkey tail light lens and want new ones, call 1-877-902-2600, swedish car parts. part #s are tvv8171 for left side, tvv8172 for right side. $90 each, cheapest that i've found ! I ordered a tail light (now $120)and found that one end is taller than the old tail light on my 96 wanderlodge. I want to know if sawing off part of the new tail light is appropiate or expected by the entry author. Thanks Don

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[> Subject: Re: Tail Light


Author:
Don Jones
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Date Posted: 05/ 31/ 05, 11:04am

The post in the parts section on Tail Lights needs to be amended to include the information that the new tail light must have approximately 1 inch of material removed on the edge toward the center of the motorhome. I used a Dremel tool with a cutoff wheel. All of the above being true for a 96 Wanderlodge. Don

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Subject: Roof A/C while driving


Author:
Dave
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Date Posted: 05/ 25/ 05, 10:52am

Can I run one of the roof a/c units on the inverter while driving? I have a 1990 WB with 6 batteries.

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[> Subject: Re: Roof A/C while driving


Author:
Don Jones
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Date Posted: 05/ 27/ 05, 7:44am

I run the front a/c on my 96 bird. Coach has 2 heart 2500w inverters and 6 D batteries. I'm told you should only do this when alternator is running at cruise speed. Don

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Subject: Inspection on Vintage Bird


Author:
Hal Maddox
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Date Posted: 05/ 25/ 05, 4:29am

We are thinking about purchasing a 1990 Wanderlodge, we reside in Tampa, Fl. Is there anyone that can inspect the Bluebird before we puchase it?

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[> Subject: Re: Inspection on Vintage Bird


Author:
Ernie Ekberg
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Date Posted: 05/ 17/ 05, 4:52am

Where is your perspective coach located? We have folks all over the country that could help you out. Ernie

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[> [> Subject: Re: Inspection on Vintage Bird


Author:
Hal
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Date Posted: 05/ 17/ 05, 6:40am

The coach is located in Zephyrhills, Florida.

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[> Subject: Re: Inspection on Vintage Bird


Author:
Hal Maddox
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Date Posted: 05/ 18/ 05, 5:36am

We are looking at a 1990 wanderlodge located near 75 & 54 in the Northern part of Tampa. Is there anyone out there that can inspect the motorhome for us, we know nothing about wanderlodges. We will pay someone to inspect the motorhome for us. Need someone asap.

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Author:
randy dupree
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Date Posted: 05/ 19/ 05, 5:25pm

call me,i'm in gainesville fl 352 495 2057

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Inspection on Vintage Bird


Author:
Dolores
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Date Posted: 05/ 25/ 05, 4:29am

Thank's Randy, with friends like you, who needs enemies.
May God Bless You.

1990 Wanderlodge in Zephyrhills

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Subject: whats it for


Author:
ed mcstay
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Date Posted: 05/ 21/ 05, 11:48am

i have a 1983 fc with a 3208 cat engine. at the left rear of the engine is a cooling line that runs to the heater lines on the right front. can any one tell me what this line is for or can it be disconnected.

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Subject: Musical Horn


Author:
Tommy Edwards
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Date Posted: 05/ 15/ 05, 7:31pm

I have a 1985 FC, bought it last year. We love it. The musical horn now plays out of sync/off key. Any advise?
Thanks. TE.

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Subject: King Pin Lubrication


Author:
Ernie Ekberg
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Date Posted: 05/ 11/ 05, 3:42pm

A tech manual from Rockwell, 1983 era, states that the weight must be left on the king pins when lubricating them. This goes against all that I have heard in the past.

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[> Subject: Re: King Pin Lubrication


Author:
Harvey Lawrence
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Date Posted: 05/ 12/ 05, 2:42pm

Ernie.
I think it has something to do with where on the spindle the grease fittings are. I have been involved with vehicles with spindles and King pins for years and have always heard the same as you. Get the weight off for good greasing. But if the company that makes the axles says differently I guess they must know.
Harv

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Subject: leveling


Author:
Roger
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Date Posted: 04/ 26/ 05, 6:21am

my 1982 wanderlodge has overextended its levelers. The jacks are now facing the front of the bus. How do I fix this?

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[> Subject: Re: leveling


Author:
Harvey Lawrence
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Date Posted: 05/ 3/ 05, 5:17pm

If I had your problem I would go directly to the experts. call 1-800 321-3494 the HWH Jack co. in moscow IA. They are real nice folks and they will suggest a solution.
Harvey

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