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Subject: Cold Weather


Author:
Bret
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Date Posted: 01/ 15/ 17, 8:12am

Thinking about a Bluebird for year around in Minnesota. Any suggestions or tips on how it would do. Have always liked the Bluebird, but I don't know if all holding and plumbing is enclosed and if they are insulated enough for the climate.

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[> Subject: Re: Cold Weather


Author:
steve (hammill)
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Date Posted: 12/ 1/ 17, 5:37pm

If it is like my old 83 Bird, as long as the coach is running, plugged into shore power, or the generator is running everything should be fine. You do need to keep an eye on things, a big poopsickle is no fun.

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Subject: Coach insurance 2017


Author:
steve (hammill)
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Date Posted: 12/ 1/ 17, 11:36am

Checked the archives and the last thread on insurance was back in 2009.

I got a quote from Foremost of $2000 as a part-timer. It seems high for a $75k coach. It may be the million $$$ coverages that I selected, but maybe not. I don't remember what I paid Progressive back in the 90's on my 83 Bird.

I have pockets deep enough to excite ambulance chasers so I thought more was necessary.

Thoughts...recommendations please.

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Subject: 1959 bluebird


Author:
Mike (Cold)
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Date Posted: 11/ 3/ 17, 10:40am

Just picked up a 1959 blue bird 366 v8 driving it from Minnesota to phoenix slots of switches with no labels on the dash and no heat looking for any enlightenment on dash switches and the array of switches above the captains chair

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Subject: Re: Musical Horn scematic


Author:
Gilles Grimard
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Date Posted: 10/ 10/ 17, 12:16pm

I have the Ultimate Musical Horn and I need the scematic for the connection.

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Subject: air bags


Author:
GABE GRAU SR (old school)
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Date Posted: 10/ 8/ 17, 7:16pm

looking for front and rear air bags for 1985 bluebird Wanderlodge PT 36 thanks.

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Subject: Rooftop air condensation drip/drain tubes


Author:
Tim
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Date Posted: 09/ 23/ 17, 11:27pm

1994 Bluebird gets wet in overhead interior storage compartments when AC is running. This unit has 3 original Duotherm Penguin AC units. In my investigation I found where the evaporator trays drip there are actually holes in the roof that catch the water (condensation) and direct it through drain tubes. These tubes are run through the cross section of the roof and the walls and eventually drop the water out near the wheel wells. Quite an elaborate system for sure, but not so good when things age and fall apart.

It's hard to tell without removing the AC units, but it appears to me the seal is compromised between the drain tubes and the aluminum roof. I'm assuming the next step is to remove the AC units and get a good look at things.

In observing/planning AC removal, I can see where the front AC mount studs are in air intake area, but can't see the rear studs. There's a vinyl covered ceiling piece that's part of the air intake. I think I need to remove that, but can't see any obvious fasteners. Has anybody else dealt with this before? Any hints or information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. Tim

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Subject: 8v92 wont fire


Author:
Ray
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Date Posted: 09/ 16/ 17, 3:15am

I've got an 8V92 non installed, it was a rebuild, all electronic systems retrofitted back to mechanical type. Engine will crank but not fire, have checked fuel flow, filter, cut out switch and all is ok. What else can I check out/test to resolve

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Subject: what is the HSA function on the ISUZU forward juston


Author:
Tera (terav)
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Date Posted: 05/ 18/ 12, 8:55am

i just got a used isuzu truck from japan and there are two HSA switches on the dash that i cannot yet figure what they are for. one says HSA off/on and the other one says HSA fast/slow.
will appreciate any help on this topic.
thank you.

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[> Subject: KITCHEN


Author:
kELLY SMITH
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Date Posted: 09/ 12/ 17, 4:10am

http://kitchentuts.com/   This works wonderfully! It gave me the push to replace a pressure cooker lost a few years ago after Hurricane Rita. I followed the recipe closely except I substituted beef stock for chicken, had a delicious meal and froze the leftovers for later.

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Subject: Where can I find parts for a 1988 Wanderlodge?


Author:
Ted Hoffman (Help)
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Date Posted: 08/ 4/ 17, 12:47am

I am a new owner of a 1988 39' Bluebird WB. The mechanism to hold door open into the engine compartment needs to be replaced as does the latch to open and lock the door. My mechanic, who is also new to old Bluebirds, is having a heard time locating the parts. The current owners of Wanderlodge, according to the mechanic are very difficult to deal with. Are there any other part sources? This is my first coach and so far the ride has been pretty bumpy !

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Subject: Removing paneling by thermostat


Author:
Jim Woodward (ideas needed)
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Date Posted: 06/ 22/ 17, 7:33pm

I have a 1979 BlueBird Wanderlodge with an A/C problem. Power has been traced from the compressor to the thermostat but the repair guy cannot further trace the problem without removing the paneling. Are there any suggestions as how best to remove the paneling without damaging it?

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Subject: Removal of wter tank on 1983 FC35


Author:
Urnie Krueger
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Date Posted: 03/ 30/ 17, 7:51pm

I may need to remove the water tank on my 1983 FC35 to repair some plumbing leaks. Does anyone know the procedure?

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[> Subject: Re: Removal of wter tank on 1983 FC35


Author:
Larry Baker
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Date Posted: 06/ 18/ 17, 1:49pm

It is a royal pain. Pay someone to do it.

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Subject: 83 40' wanderlodge


Author:
Kat
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Date Posted: 06/ 10/ 17, 6:03pm

does anyone know where the power source for the generator door on the front of the bus. Ours will not open when push the button, it only works manually.

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Subject: What is the right battery for a 1977 bluebird wanderlodge


Author:
John (Vidaurri)
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Date Posted: 02/ 16/ 17, 9:17pm

What is the right battery to use in a 1977 bluebird wanderlodge and how do they hook up?

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Subject: Fuel Filter on 1989 Blue Bird


Author:
Tonya
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Date Posted: 01/ 17/ 17, 9:54am

I just bought a 1989 Blue Bird, 1BB, and need to know when it is time to change the fuel filter, is it when it looks full on the filter or when it looks half full?

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Subject: New 1988 Bluebird Owner


Author:
Ted Hoffman (finding my way)
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Date Posted: 12/ 14/ 16, 1:02pm

The lock and release latch on the engine compartment of My 1988 Bluebird Wanderlodge 39' Widebody is worn out. I am looking for a replacement. I live in Idaho and would like to make contact with folks nearby with similar coaches.

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Subject: can i know timing of gear train crankshaft of 12v92 engine series


Author:
Rohit_Sagvekar
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Date Posted: 12/ 1/ 16, 10:14am

can i know timing of gear train crankshaft of 12v92 engine series

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Subject: Marker lights fix


Author:
Gerardo (Floriano)
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Date Posted: 11/ 17/ 16, 4:39pm

1979 Wanderlodge.Marker lights stop working , cant figure for a fuse or braker to be replaced.Hope you guys can advice me.Thanks

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Subject: Re: Questions on Detroit Diesels


Author:
peter castellanos (big kahuna)
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Date Posted: 10/ 12/ 16, 1:59pm

hi, I've a difficult time locating an oil leak under the blower input shaft drive seal and the end plate 6V-92 series
I've removed the blower and replaced the input shaft seal
and now its leaking worst the before.
thanks.

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Subject: Re: Questions on Detroit Diesels


Author:
edvin
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Date Posted: 10/ 7/ 16, 2:19am

Hi looking to buy 1979 GMC General with 6V92 Detroit Diesel
I know it is 2016 and this are very old trucks what are the major problems with tis trucks and engines and is there parts available to rebuild engines?

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Subject: Need a Good RV shop to work on my Bird in Houston,, Texas


Author:
mike (have a 1988 25th aniv need an rv shop local please)
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Date Posted: 09/ 20/ 16, 8:21pm

we just bought a great 1988, 25th anniversary edition and have a couple of things we want repaired, and have no luck in Houston finding one, also need a good place to take just to get everything checked out mechanically before we head to the Pacific North West

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Subject: NEW


Author:
Jim (STUMPPED)
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Date Posted: 09/ 16/ 16, 4:47am

I need help, big time..... 1998 Hatt with 12V92's. I'm deep into a total rebuild and the liners are out and finding no issues with the engine, I have a dilemma that is stumping my mechanic. I wonder if anyone knows why a plug is shoved in the main water jacket located 2:00 of the #4 cylinder hole of the inboard bank of the port engine. 3 other plugs are in three more water jackets. One on the #4 inboard side as well as as well as at 11:00 on #3 cylinders holes on the in and outboard water jackets. From what I've learned, a 12V92 is two 6V92's joined nose to nose so if that is correct, the 4 plugs are located adjacent to # 1 cylinder on both banks of both 6V blocks.
After digging through a bunch of receipts, one eng survey, and some service records left on the boat I recently bought, I learned that this engine continually had heat problems which the prior owners tried chasing down. Also when I was bringing the boat up the coast, I could not exceed 1850 without the temp creeping up. Is it possible these plugs do not belong there? Or is it possible that 4 plugs are too many plugs?
I conferred with a local mechanic and he recalls a Detroit bulletin mentioning between a certain range of serial numbered engines, these plugs were to be inserted to remedy an overheat problem. Could someone have added 2 where the should only be 2 ?
I'm really uneasy about continuing with the rebuild until I know with great certainty what the deal with these plugs are. Can you help ? ? ? PLEASE ?

BTW, these engines are marinized be Detroit, not J&T nor Covington.

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Subject: Detritus 6v92t engine one side (3cylinder) releasing wet diesel from exhaust and I inter changed injectorsthe problem is same


Author:
Hussein (New question)
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Date Posted: 09/ 6/ 16, 10:54am

Detritus 6v92t engine one side (3cylinder) releasing wet diesel from exhaust and I inter changed injectorsthe problem is same

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Subject: Mechanic needed


Author:
Josh Duckwall
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Date Posted: 01/ 18/ 16, 2:15pm

Does anybody know a mechanic in and around Atlanta that would work on these old juice brakes? I have a 1968, thanks

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[> Subject: Re: Mechanic needed


Author:
Dave Bland
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Date Posted: 09/ 2/ 16, 8:09am

North Georgia Auto in Cumming Ga will work on em. 706-205-0905

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Subject: onan 7500 quiet generator diesal repairs


Author:
michael (murphy)
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Date Posted: 09/ 1/ 16, 6:31am

what does it cost to replace the stator,inventor,and rotor
1 rotor $563.00
2 stator $1138.00
3 inventor $1898.00
4 labor welding frame bent take out rv reinstall
27 hrs @95.00

how bad is this

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[> Subject: Re: onan 7500 quiet generator diesal repairs


Author:
michael (murphy)
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Date Posted: 09/ 1/ 16, 6:25am

would like opinions on this seems excessive

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[> [> Subject: Re: onan 7500 quiet generator diesal repairs


Author:
michael (murphy)
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Date Posted: 09/ 1/ 16, 6:30am

onan genera questions on repair

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: onan 7500 quiet generator diesal repairs


Author:
michael (murphy)
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Date Posted: 09/ 1/ 16, 6:31am


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Subject: Location of horn on 78 Wanderlodge


Author:
Jon
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Date Posted: 07/ 17/ 16, 5:25pm

This may sound funny but I have tried to located my horn with no success! Today a friend of mine came over to help me locate it. We never did find it but we did locate the horn selinoid right under the front dash. It really a pain in the butt as it doesn't work and I have looked just about everywhere that it could have been installed.. Thanks Jon.

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[> Subject: Re: Location of horn on 78 Wanderlodge


Author:
Gatorgrl
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Date Posted: 08/ 28/ 16, 4:31am

By "horn" do you mean the (2) air horns located at the top of the bus? If so, there should be a small foot switch on the drivers side...like an old highbeam switch...this is for the airhorn...according to our blueprints. We have an 82 FC

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Subject: 1982 FC Wanderlodge shore power issue


Author:
Gatorgrl (confused)
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Date Posted: 08/ 28/ 16, 4:19am

We are the new owners of a 1982 FC Wanderlodge and are in the process of rehabbing it. It's original owner passed away so we are flying blind. We have all of the blueprints but are having an issue hooking the bus up to 30amp shore power. My husband even direct wired a line from the house to the breaker panel and at best all we got was both roof A/C's and the 110v outlets. We have done everything it has said to do as far as switching the power at the generator to 30amp shore power. We are at a loss. Any ideas on what could be causing us to have no interior lights when hooked to shore power?

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Subject: Pricing Worksheet FC


Author:
Benjamin Ray
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Date Posted: 08/ 27/ 16, 6:28pm

I am trying to find a document from BlueBird with the pricing and options for an FC.

Would anyone know where to find this?

Thanks,
Bfrtech

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Subject: 3208 Cat in 88 FC


Author:
Ray Pander
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Date Posted: 08/ 25/ 16, 8:32pm

Has anyone ever replaced the 3208 Cat with a new engine other than a Cat in a FC. I know this has been done in the SP's but I'm not aware of another option in a FC.
I've owned this Bird since 1994 and am considering updating the old girl. I would like to get a little more power for the hills.

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Subject: 88 fc history


Author:
rick pino
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Date Posted: 08/ 22/ 16, 1:51pm

I am looking at this used B/B FC35, any one have history on it?
http://www.buybyebluebird.com/show.php?id=320&p=10&page=1&srt=added%20DESC

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Subject: 1968 27 ft holiday rambler


Author:
Joshua
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Date Posted: 08/ 8/ 16, 1:07pm

I have a 68 holiday rambler, in good condition, unsure if it's all original or not, probably not, but i poured water into my toilet to see if it worked, which it seems too, but one, I. Not sure if this model has a holding tank or if it is a straight line, as nothing came out my exit line. If it has a tank is there a valve for opening the tank to drain and where would it be located?

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Subject: Looking at a 82 fc 35 and have some questions


Author:
rick pino
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Date Posted: 08/ 1/ 16, 7:57am

I am new to bluebirds and have some questions on the fc models as far as what to look for when considering purchase. Ie like rust areas, etc. It would be nice to talk to someone knowledgeable by phone if possible.
Rick 772-388-8782

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Subject: Re: Questions on Detroit Diesels


Author:
wilf
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Date Posted: 07/ 18/ 16, 7:58pm

what is air to air testing and what type of result should I get and valve setting should be done when and what is the lastest program now for the 60 series for 515

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Subject: A very interested future owner


Author:
Chuck Green (Intrigued)
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Date Posted: 07/ 18/ 16, 3:50pm

I have a 34 Bounder now and it is a great, but it looks like every other one. I have always liked the look of a Bluebird, and I am handy so I can do the work. What I want to know is what questions you would have asked if you knew what you know now.

Please take some time and tell me about your bird...

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Subject: Re: Questions on Detroit Diesels


Author:
visser (16vf92)
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Date Posted: 05/ 18/ 16, 9:41am

the camshaft 5147231 is this the 16vf92TA and he can work with the 8,927,069th / 8927070/8927071

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Subject: Oil for 1988 bluebird w/Detroit 2 stroke engine


Author:
John
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Date Posted: 04/ 6/ 16, 12:52am

We bought a 1988 40 ft Bluebird Wanderlodge. It has a Detroit Diesel 2 stroke engine. We were told Delo 100 30 weight is the best oil for it. The mechanic who changed the oil for us used Delo 400 instead of Delo 100. Should we drain it & change it to the 100 30 weight we asked for? Will it harm anything if we run the 400 for a few thousand miles before we change it to Delo 100? Also when we drain the 400 out should we change the new oil filter also even if we don't drive it with the 400 oil he put in it? It has been idled since the oil change but not driven. Thx

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[> Subject: Re: Oil for 1988 bluebird w/Detroit 2 stroke engine


Author:
Ernie Ekberg
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Date Posted: 04/ 30/ 16, 5:06am

you need Delo 100--40 weight- no blend- drain it and use the correct oil

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Subject: How to remove a window from a 91 Wanderlodge


Author:
Stephanie
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Date Posted: 04/ 29/ 16, 11:37am

We are renovating a 91 and the widows are foamed in. I need to remove the window to get a residential refrigerator in. Has anyone done this or have any advice?

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Subject: Volunteering to Help Collegiate Solar Car Race Team


Author:
Chris Tolbert (Tolbert)
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Date Posted: 03/ 31/ 16, 8:59am

Greetings from Appalachian State University Solar Vehicle Team,
I am lead advisor and coach of our solar vehicle team. I have been researching motorhomes and find Wanderlodges to be the best on the road for safety and longevity. I want one for both my college and high school teams. If one were to become available and fall within our small budget I am considering purchasing one in our future. Short term we are currently working out travel arrangements for the American Solar Challenge (ASC) which is going to be an 8 day 1800+ mile road course traveling through 7 states from Brecksville, OH to Hot Springs, SD. This year the ASC is partnering with the National Park Service for their 2016 Centennial. The ASC route will include stage/checkpoints in 9 national parks, historic sites or partner properties throughout the Midwest. We will also compete at the Formula Sun Grand Prix (FSGP 2016) held at Pittsburgh International Race Complex in Wampum, PA. (This is also the qualifying race for the ASC).

Obviously the team is considering traveling in a motorhome to these events. Students will be sleeping in our race trailer, tents and vans. I see the motorhome as being quarters for coaches, volunteers and home base for safety. Unfortunately, our school transportation department does not have such vehicles so we are currently seeking sponsors willing to provide such support from July 19 - August 9. In return for sponsorship we would be able and excited to advertise the sponsorship throughout all the events and travel during this 3 week endeavor that includes preparation, competition, and return home. We would also setup advertisements on our website, solar vehicle and during our community outreach events throughout the year. If you know anyone interested in this unique marketing opportunity and supporting our efforts to promoting sustainable transportation and STEM education please let us know.

For More Information:
http://americansolarchallenge.org/
http://www.appstatesvt.com/#home-section

Our High School Electric Vehicle Team webiste:
http://wwhsev.weebly.com/


Thank You for Your Time and Consideration!

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Subject: new member


Author:
lamar rowland
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Date Posted: 03/ 16/ 16, 7:34am

just joined check cleared but have heard nothing from club thanks

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Subject: Re: Questions on Detroit Diesels


Author:
shelkan (happy)
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Date Posted: 03/ 6/ 16, 6:33am

what number of crankshaft revolutions is required to time all the injectors in a two-cycle Detroit diesel engine

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[> Subject: Re: Questions on Detroit Diesels


Author:
Shane
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Date Posted: 03/ 15/ 16, 5:01am

When I set the timing on my injectors, we only rotated the engine a few times by hand using a 1-1/2" socket on the camshaft pulley nut. You will need to obtain a timing tool from DD/Allison unless you already have one.

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Subject: Is there a market for 8v92 engines


Author:
Jerry
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Date Posted: 03/ 3/ 16, 10:52am

We recently replaced our engine in our wrecker. I'm wondering if there is a market for a used 8v92 DD ? It just had 1 liner come loose>

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Subject: Engine swap ?


Author:
Jimmy Miller (Evangelist)
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Date Posted: 02/ 16/ 16, 9:00pm

We are selling our house as we're in our sixties, I had a GM 4106 that we loved but couldn't find honest mechanics, I like the older Birds with the tag axle, my question is can a series 60 fit into an older Wanderlodge, I like the 8V92 but seems to have people not wanting in to work on them, by the way, I change my own oil and filters,how much would a rebuilt series 60 cost? sorry about the long lett ER , Thanks and God Bless !

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Subject: Engine swap ?


Author:
Jimmy Miller (Evangelist)
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Date Posted: 02/ 16/ 16, 8:56pm

We are selling our house as we're in our sixties, I had a GM 4106 that we loved but couldn't find honest mechanics, I like the older Birds with the tag axle, my question is can a series 60 fit into an older Wanderlodge, I like the 8V92 but seems to have people wanting in to work on them, by the way, I change my own oil and filterse, sorry about the long lett ER , Thanks and God Bless !

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Subject: light bulbs on Wanderloge


Author:
Ron Keelen
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Date Posted: 01/ 20/ 16, 12:49pm

I have just purchased a 1999 Wanderlodge Lxi body model F122529 and have a few of lights on Top back (two of the three red lights) and one amber on the side top. Does anyone know the type of bulb I can use to replace them. When I try to take the old ones out they break apart and the I cannot read the number on the stem.

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Subject: 1977 Wanderlodge with Cat 3208 possible purchase.


Author:
Chris Crimmins (Fascinated)
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Date Posted: 01/ 16/ 16, 6:20pm

Hey guys, after seeing a Wanderlodge at a flea market in Nashville, I was fascinated and started researching as one does. I of course happened upon these forums, and am really enjoying the information. So thank you.

I am here in Florida, and lo and behold I came upon a 1977 33' for sale. It seems to be in good interior and exterior condition with a few things that need repaired. Vents, fridge, ac's etc. It has about 99k on it.

I am familiar with RV's having worked on several Airstreams. Is there anything in particular to look for on buying one? What would be a good price to purchase one for if it is in good running condition?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am hopeful on joining a new community of enthusiasts. Thanks

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Subject: 81 bb fc33


Author:
bob lovett
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Date Posted: 01/ 13/ 16, 2:34pm

I have a 81 bb fc33 furnace stopped working both kitchen and living area can someone tell me where a fuse box is for these both went out at the same time was installing new thermostat in kitchen at the time no furnace in bedroom was removed when I bought the bus thanks Bob

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Subject: nutral safty switch on starter.


Author:
will
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Date Posted: 10/ 30/ 15, 1:02pm

Is the neutral safety switch for the starter wired into the ac power. my 50 amp 30 amp gen switch was burnt out so I replaced it with a automatic transfer switch and now I cant start my buss.

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Subject: General questions


Author:
Phil Schafer (Bird Wannabe)
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Date Posted: 10/ 3/ 15, 6:54pm

I have been lurking around for some time and have some questions about wanderlodge models. We may be downsizing, and a 35' or 36' Wanderlodge may be in our future. I thought about converting a bus, but the wife will kill me, and I don't have a place to do it. I love the look and construction of models before the advent of fiberglass caps and slideouts. So here goes. I've narrowed it down to sp36 or fc35. For the sp 36, are there pass through ext compartments? How many? Where are the fw and holding tanks? Is the fuel tank in front of engine/trans between frame rails? For the fc 35, where are the fw and holding tanks, are the only options twin beds or side full bed? And I know no one likes this question and it is dependent on driveline gear ratios, and weight, but what can you expect in mpg? I know of Detroit engined mcis with 10 mpgs; I have a cat 330 in my 40 ft mh and can get 8 mpg consistently. But I don't know about the 3208? Thanks for letting me lurk and learn!

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Subject: Bird in Europe


Author:
Ernst Sittig (230 V 50 Hz)
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Date Posted: 09/ 11/ 15, 8:52am

We are considering buying a 1977 Wanderlodge.Is there anyone who has experience with using an American motorhome in Europe?
Is it better to use a big transformer and gradually change the appliances (any time something breaks down) or is it better to change everything (generator, rectifier/battery charger, inverter, fridge, microwave, airco, you name it... ) to 230 V to start with?

Any suggestion (with arguments) is welcome!

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Subject: 12.5KW Perkins Generator


Author:
Rich Johnson
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Date Posted: 08/ 22/ 15, 4:20pm

This is somewhat convoluted, but, this is the way it goes: I own a FC-33 1981 Wanderlodge. It came with a Perkins 12.5 KW generator. I live in Connecticut, but visit my daughter in California. My two sons got jobs in California, and live with their sister at her house. I loaned the generator to the brothers for the purpose of fixing up the gnerator and learning about the mechanical and electrical parts of a gen-set. The only ting wrong with the diesel was that it could use a cleaning, and it had a bad bearing in the water pump. I provided a rebuilt water pump for them to install. Instead of fixing it, they tore the diesel into pieces, then lost interest in the whole thing. My daughter, under the influence of her boyfriend, decided to give away the diesel to one of her boyfriend's friends. Give Away - they said. So now I have no diesel to inlcude with the RV when I go to sell it. I have the original bill of sale for the Wanderlodge, but not sure if the diesel numbers are traceable to the RV. To me this would be a way of getting my diesel back as I am the only one with a bill of sale. What can I do? Any help appreciated. Rich

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Subject: 78 BlueBird FC 35 Windshield


Author:
D . L COLE
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Date Posted: 08/ 17/ 15, 7:03pm

Hello does anyone have any information on windshields like part numbers or who might know where I can buy one. Thank you. 218-838-7629

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Subject: RTS II 1977 BUS


Author:
Eugene (New to this.)
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Date Posted: 08/ 8/ 15, 8:00am

I just acquired an RTS II Bus 1977 with a Detroit V8-71 with a allison V730-D8 transmission. Everything seems to be just fine. I had it on the the road and the most I can get out of it is 55 miles per hr, and on an uphill about 25 miles per hr. Spoke to someone and said it is the governor. New to this where do I start.

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Subject: 1979 35 XV


Author:
Mario cruz (Hopeful)
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Date Posted: 07/ 22/ 15, 8:27am

I need some information on 1979 35' XV model.
What is the difference in the XV?
Thank you.......

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Subject: Re: Questions on Detroit Diesels


Author:
Glen Amundrud
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Date Posted: 07/ 17/ 15, 6:59pm

We have a 1988 MCI bus converted to an RV with a 1998 6V92 with a turbo and DDec11. I have problems with keeping the engine running cool enough. The rads were changed and there was no improvement. The water pump was replaced and there was no improvement. I keep the level of coolant right up there. I can get it to run cooler if I open the heat valve some and run the air conditioning all the time, but when it is 30C the interior can't stay cool enough. Can I replace the drive on the squirrel cages with a smaller pulley, if so would that help. Any suggestions.

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Subject: Fasco Heater fan motor replacement


Author:
Theresa Aland
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Date Posted: 07/ 11/ 15, 1:09pm

The fan motor in the Fasco kick space heater in my 1984 PT 36 quit working. Since this model heater is no longer made can anyone me help me with a replacement motor that will work in these heaters.
The motor is a fasco model 2450, oem #8767-0004 do not know the RPM of the motor. Thanks

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[> Subject: Re: Fasco Heater fan motor replacement


Author:
Bob Loomas
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Date Posted: 03/ 26/ 13, 2:20pm

Try Grainger.I have replace two of mine with very little Mods.Get the dimensions off the old ones.I think you be a lot happier wiyh new.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Fasco Heater fan motor replacement


Author:
Theresa Aland
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Date Posted: 07/ 11/ 15, 1:09pm

Thanks Bob, I am so sorry for not checking back after I posted the question, it was not a hurry-up and fix thing so I forgot to check back. Thanks again and i will look at grainger to see what they have.....

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Subject: header repair Indiana coach


Author:
Judy Zook
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Date Posted: 07/ 2/ 15, 8:05pm

Looking for some place to repair sagging header in coach. 1983 Wanderlodge FMC. Restoration in process.
Thanks

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Subject: Gray water tank removal


Author:
jimmy curtis (lost)
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Date Posted: 07/ 2/ 15, 1:46pm

I have a 1990 bluebird wanderlodge sp36 trying to replace the gray water tank I removed the metal cover and removed the drain pipes is there anything else holding the tank in?

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Subject: I need the air filter door (cover) for a inter therm air condition unit


Author:
Jimmy curtis (Sad)
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Date Posted: 06/ 20/ 15, 5:59pm

Anyone have or know where I can find the door (cover) for the air condition filter on a inter therm unit?

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Subject: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
Frank K
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Date Posted: 05/ 13/ 15, 7:23am

Cost of ownership- routine repairs and maintenance
I have my sites set on a 1991 wanderlodge. I have reviewed all of the maintenance bills for the past ten years and I have "sticker shock".

It appears that routine maintenance has been about 3,000 per year, with an occasional bill running $5,000 and one even hitting $12,000.
Tune ups and with an oil change hit nearly $2,000. If something was wrong, start at $200 to write up the order.
If you are not at a Blue bird dealership, hit another 500 to $1000 to fabricate tools to work on the engine. It looks like a coach costs a minimum of $6,000 in repairs and maintenance. Factor in depreciation and maintenance, puts another $6,0000 on the number. More troublesome, the CAT engine manual promises a cheap rebuild, which is required at 100,000 miles for an engine with heavy use. Another 15,000 repair bill. The heat system, Primus, is no longer made and parts are not available. Another $5,000 to replace.

I cannot write a $12,000 check without a major cut into my standard of living, (like the current owner). Anyone want to share ownership cost for the 1987 to 1992 36 foot pushers?

Frank

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
PATRICIA SHANNON (HAPPY)
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Date Posted: 04/ 18/ 08, 7:31am

I HAVE A 92 SP36 BLUE BIRD WANDERLODGE SINCE 1999 AND HAVE SPENT A FORTUNE ON THIS COACH BUT LOVE IT! HOWEVER, THERE HAS ONLY BEEN ONE DEATH IN A WANDERLODGE SINCE THEY STARTED BUILDING THEM IN 1963 WHILE ON THE ROAD. IT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO BREAK INTO A WANDERLODGE THEY ARE BUILT SO GOOD SO AS A SINGLE WOMAN, I FEEL SO VERY SAFE IN BOTH RESPECTS PLUS MY MOTORHOME DRIVES LIKE ON A CLOUD.

MOST OF MY FRIENDS HAVE COACHES - A WIDE VARIETY AND EACH ONE OF THEM TAKE A TRIP AND UPON RETURN, PLACE IT IN THE SHOP. ALL OF MY MOTORHOMES FRIENDS TELL ME THAT IT COSTS A FORTUNE TO OWN A MOTORHOME REGARDLESS OF THE MAKE, MODEL AND YEAR SO WHO KNOWS?

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
Ernie Ekberg
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Date Posted: 04/ 28/ 08, 6:26pm

WOA, Frank, take a deep breath. First, any diesel shop has tools to work on either a Detroit Diesel, Cummings, or Cat engine. No fabrication required. You stated that the Cat engine has to be rebuilt with over 100k miles with heavy use. I hardly suspect that our coaches qualify for heavy use. Primus parts are available. Lets talk more about your perspective purchase. We can always talk about repairs- if needed, later. Tell us about the coach you are interested in.
Ernie- 83PT40-- 350,000 miles- no tools needed

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[> [> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
John Stiles
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Date Posted: 05/ 7/ 15, 4:57am

Echo'ing what Ernie has said, you do not need to fabricate anything. The 100K miles for a cat engine is not a figure for a rebuild, someone has mispoke or you have misunderstood. The supposed Caterpillar recommendation was for replacing the bottom end bearings on 3208's at around the 100K mileage mark on engines in severe duty use (dump trucks, garbage trucks etc.). These birds far from qualify for this. Because of this 100K "urban legend" I had my lower end bearings replaced about 15 years ago and the ones that came out were like brand new. This was with around 140K miles. It was a total waste of money and the shop thought I was crazy for having the bearing replaced in the first place. So, lesson learned, don't believe all urban legends. No special tools needed, no 100K mile rebuild etc. These are good solid machines and the old cat is a great engine which in motorhome use (with proper care) will likely outlast most owners....

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
Bill
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Date Posted: 05/ 3/ 08, 7:04am

Yep, That can happen.
Some times folks have too much $$$ and are afraid to get their hands dirty. (An opinion only).
At about $100 per hour and a few parts replaced , it will add up to about $1000 per day in a truck or RV repair center.
If you are handy with taking care of you own house, the RV part is just some occational plumbing, heating, electrical, If you can change your own oil, & all filters once per year this is a great saving. Have new tires put on every seven years. and you are good to go.
So a 15 year old BB and about 10 to $15K over the first three year period , and you will have lots of fun and a great dependable Motorhome.
Our Cat purrs like a Kitten at over 100,000 miles.

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
Stephen
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Date Posted: 05/ 3/ 08, 4:10pm

Primus parts are available

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
Bruce
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Date Posted: 05/ 5/ 08, 3:01pm

Frank,

Six years ago, I knew very little about RVs and what it took to maintain them. Then I came across a '95 Safari Trek that a friend of mine was selling as part of an estate sale. His father had became terminally ill three years prior and the RV sat unused since. I agreed to help my friend get it ready to sell. With what little knowledge I had at the time, I educated myself. I ended up buying that RV. Today, it is running fantastically. All systems go!

With that in mind, another good friend of mine recently purchased a '79 33' Foward Control Wanderlodge that had been sitting in a state of rot for the past five years. Keep in mind that anything that sits, has a tendency to stay that way. As Newton's First Law states, objects at rest tend to remain at rest. With that in mind, we know that when getting into used RVs, the first couple of years can seem to drain the wallet like a money pit. Think boats. As they say, holes in the water into which one pours money.

That said, there's value in both knowledge and Wanderlodges. These are no cheap rigs. Folks who see them still ask questions about them. There is a certain "cool factor" in owning one. But owning one doesn't come without a certain cost of ownership. They do have to be maintained.

When I bought my Safari Trek, I knew very little about RVs. I work for a major airline so I know a thing or two about airplane systems and the physics behind those systems. RVs aren't really all that different than airplanes, believe it or not. While that made it somewhat easier for me to grasp the concepts of RV systems, anyone can learn them. I don't do diesel engine repair so that work gets farmed out at as Bill wrote, $100 an hour. My buddy who just bought the '79 33' FC recently dumped almost $5,000 in the engine side of the RV. But then there is still the house side to consider. We just replaced the refrigerator ourselves. While there was an expense, we saved a lot of money by knowing a thing or two about RVs. I feel that all owners of older, pre-owned RVs should know how the systems work and how to repair and maintain them. Great places to start are Woodall's RV Owner's Handbook by Gary "The RV Doctor" Bunzer and Trailer Life's RV Repair and Maintenance Manual by Bob Livingston. Both books are very handy and informative. To a point. If you want to know more, I suggest checking out what I did. I took a distance learning course on RV repair and maintenance. It is taught by Gary Bunzer. Check out:

http://www.northampton.edu/distancelearn/programs/rv_default.htm

for more information. I believe that the more you can do yourself on RVs, the more affordable and enjoyable having an RV becomes. Maintaining your RV yourself brings the whole RV lifestyle full circle. You not only get to enjoy your RV when things work, troubleshooting and correcting becomes a hobby itself. Think about how you can help your fellow RVers while on the road! I got into this thing full speed. If my airline job tanks, I have RV repair to fall back on.

If you decide to check out the distance learning course, write to Gary Bunzer and mention my name. Bruce McCoy. He knows who I am!

Anyway, Frank, you can either afford this rig or you can't. You'll have to decide that for yourself. I always like to tell people that there is an RV for every budget. Everything from the smallest pop-up camper trailer to the largest diesel pusher. Only you will know what you can afford to purchase, operate and maintain. I hope that you can snag this 'lodge you are looking at. Keep in mind though, it will need to be maintained.

Best of luck,
Bruce. (For Tom the owner,)
'79 33' FC

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
Stephen
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Date Posted: 05/ 19/ 08, 3:06pm

primus parts are still availble
an oil change should cost around 75.00 if you want to do the work yourself Cat engines will last longer than 100k miles if treated properly

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
DALE HALL
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Date Posted: 03/ 23/ 09, 8:40pm

Just purchased a 92 SP36. Like most used RV's it had a few bugs. I have done the best i can without a manual of the systems. Can anyone where i can find a manual of the systems or if i can possibly copy someones, its a 1992 SP36,with a Taytronics inverter. Any help would greatly be appreciated.

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
Mr C
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Date Posted: 03/ 24/ 09, 12:07pm

I have had my 86 38' pusher for a year and because it was well cared for before I purchased it I have not had to spend much. I have had it serviced (oil/filter, air filter, lubed) and have spent less than $700. It runs well and I think if a person keeps up with it, like anything else, it should not cost huge amounts to keep it rolling down the road. This is the best RV I have ever had.

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
steve
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Date Posted: 10/ 23/ 12, 6:45pm

looking at the sp36,how are these pulling a trailer
or car?should I be looking at something with more power?

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
Stephen
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Date Posted: 01/ 13/ 13, 2:50pm

parts are available for the primus system

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
travis
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Date Posted: 08/ 15/ 13, 1:55pm

I have an 82 wanderlodge and The air compressor belt blew of on me what is the simplest way to replace the belt you can not get to it from the top and with no air it is hard to even get under it. Is there a way to pump air back in to the bus so that I can release the air brakes and move to a better location to work on it

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Wanderlodge


Author:
Jerry Howard
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Date Posted: 05/ 13/ 15, 7:23am

Yes you must have a huge cash reserve to keep one of theses coaches in good shape. Go out and price tires and you will have more sticker shock. Premium coaches but will cost you.

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Subject: Shower diverter / leak in a 1990 WB.


Author:
Chris Parker (frustrated!)
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Date Posted: 05/ 7/ 15, 5:07pm


We have a leak in the shower and can't get to the divertor or the piping. Does anyone have any helpful hints/ or has someone else had this problem and found a fix. Sure would be nice to be able to use the shower. Do I have to take the entire shower apart...

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Subject: 1985 p38


Author:
Barry king
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Date Posted: 04/ 11/ 15, 6:09am

We are looking at a 1985 BB, we think it is a "p38". It is a turbo diesel, no a pusher. It hasn't started in at least 4 years. It has 6 6volt batteries. Do we need to replace all of these to start and run the engine?

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Subject: Hydro Heat Hose


Author:
Robert
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Date Posted: 02/ 23/ 15, 5:56pm

I am replacing the toilet on a 93WB and pulled the panel behind the toilet. I found one of the rubber hoses on the primus connecting the heat exchanger swollen to about 1.5" from its original 3/4" diameter. The hose also feels sticky and soft like it is breaking down. There shouldn't have been pressure on the system, anyone had experience with these hoses breaking down?

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Subject: location of air tank


Author:
JOHN mcPHERSON
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Date Posted: 01/ 31/ 15, 10:51am

I have a air leak at the exit of the slide over the kitchen window so the air leak is with the aux pump on and when the engine is running. Figure a check valve open???Been looking for the air tank location. HELP.

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Subject: best addive to an 8v 92 silver detroit


Author:
Robert Mckinney
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Date Posted: 12/ 13/ 14, 6:19pm

what is the best diesel fuel supplement to use and is it save

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Subject: 1996 BMC been sitting 3 years


Author:
Justin
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Date Posted: 12/ 9/ 14, 3:38pm

Hello, I have been a reader of this forum for a few years but this is my forst post. I guess I dont fit the typical Blue Bird owner profile but thats ok I guess. Im 30 years old, married with a 2 year old little girl. my grandfather has owned Bluebirds for quite some time now and I have always dreamed of traveling with my family someday in a Bluebird. He is getting to the age that he is not sure he will be using his Bird much more and it has been sitting about 3 years. He knows my interest and has expressed interest in selling me his Bird. We are heading out to get it out of storage tomorrow and look it over. It has had the same diesel sitting for the last 3 years or so in it. Is there anything you guys would reccomend adding to the fuel before it is started or any other reccomendations before starting a Bird after sitting for that time? What other things should I look at? I already know its due for a full set of tires and an oil change. Any advise is much appreciated. This is a 1996 BMC 37' Cummins. About 60k miles on the rig. Thanks in advance.
Justin

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Subject: Re: Questions on Detroit Diesels


Author:
Allan Osmond
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Date Posted: 11/ 17/ 14, 4:12am

I have an 8v92 it has developed a knock /vibration which you can feel in the cab or putting your hand on the truck.
This occurs when you rev up and then back off the accelerator.
It is intermtant at this stage.
I have checked the flywheel and harmonick balancer
Iam woundering if the drive gears for the supercharger could be the problem.
I have previously changed the engine mounts front and back
THANKS ALLAN

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Subject: HOW TO START FURNANCE PILOT ? 1982 WANDERLODGE


Author:
CASEY
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Date Posted: 10/ 1/ 14, 11:19am

Hi I have a 1982' Blue Bird Wanderlodge. I'm having trouble starting the heating furnace. Is there a pilot? How do I get to it? How do I start it up?

Also looking for a amber blinker cover for the front directional mine is broke off?

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[> Subject: Re: HOW TO START FURNANCE PILOT ? 1982 WANDERLODGE


Author:
Shane Fedeli
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Date Posted: 11/ 5/ 14, 2:37pm

The furnaces do not have a pilot. They ignite after a few safety measures are tripped. When you turn on the furnace, a blower should immediately turn on. This trips a sail switch and then you should hear a loud "click" a within 10 seconds as the gas valves open. Give me a call at 717-645-4912 and I can talk you through removal and testing.

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Subject: Re: Questions on Detroit Diesels


Author:
Andrew
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Date Posted: 09/ 22/ 14, 6:45pm

Hello

Can someone tell me if there is a difference between a marine overhaul kit and an industrial for a detroit 671 inline natural trunk piston?

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Subject: Re: Questions on Detroit Diesels


Author:
Pastor Iran "Pete" Figueroa (need to know)
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Date Posted: 09/ 17/ 14, 6:40pm

I have a 1983 Silver Eagle bus with a 6-71 Detroit, it has been sitting for a few yrs. recently it turned over and ran Idle for 15 min. an then it shut off, looked under the bus and saw about a gallon or 2 of oil on the ground, don't know if a oil line busted or something else that caused an oil leak, if a line busted what would the coast be to replace it or could it be something else, I'm trying to troubleshoot the problem. Thank you for your response.

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Subject: Windows won't open


Author:
Susan
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Date Posted: 09/ 13/ 14, 7:44pm

We have a 1994. From the beginning all of our windows were difficult to open. It has gotten progressively worse. We are now at the point where we simply cannot open them. They simply will not budge. Any known fixes/suggestions?
Thanks in advance.

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[> Subject: Re: Windows won't open


Author:
Shane Fedeli
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Date Posted: 09/ 13/ 14, 7:08pm

I've found a product at wal-mart called "white lightning" bicycle chain lube that works well. It is a bluish liquid that dries into a white teflon powder and lubricates the tracks pretty well. I would not use it on a black window frame, but if you have the silver aluminum frames, it works great. On black metal frames, it may be better to use graphite, which is also black.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Windows won't open


Author:
Susan (Sohni)
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Date Posted: 09/ 13/ 14, 7:44pm

Thank you so much for the suggestion.
Will that work if we use it on the closed window?? The problem is that the windows will not budge.

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Subject: Solar Birds


Author:
Swami (Blissed and blessful!)
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Date Posted: 08/ 28/ 14, 4:53pm

Curious if many Wanderlodge Owners have become solar powered, we are planning on doing alot of BLM boondocking as full timers. Thank you to each reader for taking time to read this message and responding if you have something to say!

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Subject: replacement distributer


Author:
James (Panic)
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Date Posted: 08/ 17/ 14, 10:26am

I have a 1975 Bird, with 534 gas engine. My distributer was fused to the block. I was able to remove it, but it did not come out in one piece.
I need a replacement ASAP!!!!
The part number is --hf12127aa the first 2 letters are not clear.
Any one out there, know where i can find a replacement..

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[> Subject: Re: replacement distributer


Author:
bloomas
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Date Posted: 08/ 17/ 14, 3:55pm

Can you take it to napa? They may can match it up.

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Subject: Need a repairman for a Bluebird luxury coach in cincinnati


Author:
Tony Iannelli
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Date Posted: 08/ 15/ 14, 5:23pm

Need a repairman to come to our shop to fix the air system

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Subject: bleeding brakes on 1965 wanderlodge


Author:
Susan
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Date Posted: 04/ 13/ 14, 9:34am

We got our bluebird last year. It had been setting at least 15 years and the guy we got it from said he hadn't been able to bleed the brakes. We had it towed home and have not tried driving it yet. My husband bled the brakes once and then after it sat awhile they were spongey again.
Did models this old have an air tank to assist the brakes. There is a tank under the dinette that looks like it might be connected somehow to them. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Subject: 1972 bluebird rear shocks


Author:
andrew heiger (grateful)
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Date Posted: 03/ 31/ 14, 2:03pm

I am looking to replace the original shocks on the REAR of my 1972 Bluebird. The delco part # is 3187991, but it refers to a monroe shock, which is incorrect. Been to monroe dealer, truck parts place, no luck. Please help

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Subject: Built in safe


Author:
Jeffrey Williams (help needed, stuck)
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Date Posted: 03/ 10/ 14, 10:20am

I have a 79 FC with a 3208 Cat diesel, this BB has a built in safe in the compartment to the left as you open the door , it is in the same compartment as the switch from shore to gen. The pin is open at this point ,can't be locked inside the thick round door there is a way to change the combination , however it requires a key to alter it. Any information anyone has about this would be greatly appreciated

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Subject: Help! 1969 Ford BlueBird For Sale? Where to Start, Price?


Author:
Lydia (lost and confused)
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Date Posted: 03/ 3/ 14, 1:02pm

Hello helpful guys and gals, I am hoping someone can point me in the right direction. We have inherited a 1969 Bluebird bus, with a kitchen (converts to bed), bathroom, 4 "bunks", and a rear master bedroom which features a fold-down futon type couch. The interior is certainly "used" (we came across Canada in it when I was a child!) but it's still livable. I lived in it for a year in 2007. It hasn't ran since 1995 (to my knowledge) and I think it would be safe to assume the engine will need rebuilding or replacing. I don't have the means to have it rebuilt before selling. Is it worth anything more than scrap metal? I don't know where I should be pricing it at. I do have all the registration papers and whatnot, I just don't know where to start. Thanks for your help, I appreciate it! -Lydia

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[> Subject: Re: Help! 1969 Ford BlueBird For Sale? Where to Start, Price?


Author:
Shane
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Date Posted: 02/ 28/ 14, 6:07pm

Is it a Wanderlodge or a converted school bus? If it is a Wanderlodge, it may have some residual value for parts or be worth restoring to the right person. Converted schoolbuses might be a little harder to sell.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Help! 1969 Ford BlueBird For Sale? Where to Start, Price?


Author:
Lydia
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Date Posted: 03/ 1/ 14, 10:39pm

Hi, I believe it is a converted school bus... I think. It doesn't actually say Wanderlodge anywhere that I can see!

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Help! 1969 Ford BlueBird For Sale? Where to Start, Price?


Author:
George Hammond
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Date Posted: 03/ 3/ 14, 1:02pm

Take it to the metal scrap yard.

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Subject: holland michigan 31FC


Author:
patrick.casey@comcast.net
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Date Posted: 02/ 26/ 14, 9:23am

a 31FC is for sale in Virginia. Front shows owned by someone in Holland, Michigan. Can anyone tell me the owner fro

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Subject: Rear Air suspension bags


Author:
Mike Oakley
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Date Posted: 02/ 18/ 14, 7:05am

Looking for the rear air bags for suspension and possibly a rebuilt air compressor. Any Help Thank you Mike

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[> Subject: Re: Rear Air suspension bags


Author:
Shane
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Date Posted: 02/ 18/ 14, 8:43am

Mike- What year and model of coach?

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Subject: Re: Questions on Detroit Diesels


Author:
buck (new)
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Date Posted: 01/ 31/ 14, 6:15am

found your info very interesting;maybe you can give me your opinon on 12v92"s in a boat with 350 hrs on mtrs.how many hrs.before need to rebuild if taken of. thanks jim

buck dion

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[> Subject: Re: Questions on Detroit Diesels


Author:
Shane
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Date Posted: 02/ 12/ 14, 5:36am

Hi Buck- It would depend on a lot more than just engine hours. Type of oil used, history of engine use/overheat incidents, age of thermostats and if engine was dry-docked when not in use. My original 6V92 has around 5,500 hours on it and is over 30 years old. Coolant and oil are tested regularly to make sure that pH is within spec and that coolant is not leaking into crankcase via o-rings on cylinder liners. I change the thermostats and flush cooling system every 100K miles.

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Subject: Bluebird Transport


Author:
Daniel I.
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Date Posted: 02/ 10/ 14, 1:42pm

Buying a 41 foot BB and am considering having it shipped on a flatbed rather than driving 3000+ miles. Any thoughts, suggestions (companies to use) or experiences.

Thanks

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[> Subject: Re: Bluebird Transport


Author:
Shane
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Date Posted: 02/ 12/ 14, 5:31am

Dan- I think it may be hard to accomplish this in the eastern US due to underpass height restrictions. It would be far cheaper to hire a driver, buy them a plane ticket and pay for the coach fuel.

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Subject: Re: Questions on Detroit Diesels


Author:
Joel Davidson
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Date Posted: 12/ 21/ 13, 6:24pm

I am looking at a heavy 65' trawler, in excess of 100 tons, and powered with the 750hp 8V92's. My intention would be to run around 1000-1100 rpm, which should give me 8-9 knots. I know that unlike 4 stroke diesels, these engines need to run at higher rpm for at least part of a cruising day. Most of the time, the boat is just going to be a live aboard, especially with the current price of fuel Do you have any idea of the fuel consumption of these engines at 1000-1100rpm. Thanks

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Subject: 1964 FC31 409 Manual - How many 409's were built?


Author:
Ron Klingler (Klingler)
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Date Posted: 12/ 6/ 13, 8:57am

I recently purchased a 1964 BB SN# 2934 It still retains its originality. I would like to replace the added seats with BB Drivers/Passenger Seats? Also a question arises- how many 409's were built until they went to Ford? After sitting several years, I am getting it checked over, however it does still drive, but needs work.

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Subject: Replacement altenator


Author:
Red Raby
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Date Posted: 11/ 2/ 13, 3:38pm

Earlier today ,aperson wanted to know if there was a replacement altenator that would replace the 180 amp Motorola altenator.Delco has one .The catalogue number is SI.This will replace the A0012824LC LEECE NEVILLE (motorola)This delco is sopposed to be lighter ,more effecient and more heat resistant.There are two mounting brackets so you would need to know which one you need.Hope this helps!!!

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[> Subject: Re: Replacement altenator


Author:
Red Raby
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Date Posted: 11/ 4/ 13, 1:13pm

Sorry Guy's: I omitted part of the Delco pn.Correct pn is 28SI.

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Subject: Start-up after extended period of non-operation


Author:
Williamson (help)
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Date Posted: 11/ 2/ 13, 3:26pm

We have had an 85 PT36 with a 6V92TA silver block engine for rather more than twenty wonderful trouble free years, Alaska, Labrador, &, & etc.
Due to human frailties it has not been started for over a year. If it was an aircraft gas piston engine under similar conditions I would normally pull plugs and pre-oil cylinder walls and then using aux external oil pump splice into the lub system and pressurize before attempting a start. The installation in the back of the PT36 is a bit daunting not even counting aforesaid frailties. Does anyone have any suggestions or experience of possible damage resulting from start-up after such long non-operation?

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[> Subject: Re: Start-up after extended period of non-operation


Author:
BIll
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Date Posted: 03/ 22/ 13, 4:21am

Post your question here, you will receive more responses.

http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/index.php

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[> Subject: Re: Start-up after extended period of non-operation


Author:
Ernie
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Date Posted: 03/ 24/ 13, 12:37pm

Make sure the fluids are topped, turn on your block heater for a few hours and see if it will crank

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[> Subject: Re: Start-up after extended period of non-operation


Author:
Bob
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Date Posted: 07/ 15/ 13, 3:53am

Are you going to sell your MH?
Bobby

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[> Subject: Re: Start-up after extended period of non-operation


Author:
Red Raby
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Date Posted: 11/ 2/ 13, 3:26pm

From what I know about the 8v92,lack of use is some times a death warrant for these old engines.You probably will have enough lubrication,but make sure there is no water in the oil,and as a precaution have the anti freeze changed.These engine's have a (wet sleeve)system.If the anti freeze deterorates,the sleeves are bad to rust thru.That is a major reason that you see lower milage coaches advertised for sale with a note that says"engine recently over hauled" In buses and trucks that were kept on the road,500 thousand miles was not unheard of on these engines,but in seldom used applications ,failures under 100 thousand are not uncommon.

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Subject: 1976 bluebird wanderlodge fuel pump location


Author:
Jon I. Stewart
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Date Posted: 10/ 25/ 13, 10:33am

Can't find fuel,pump,

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Subject: Rubber hinges


Author:
Tim C
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Date Posted: 10/ 3/ 13, 9:00pm

I am looking to replace some of the rubber hinges on the cargo bay doors on a 86 Wanderlodge. Does anyone know where I might find those? Thanks.

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[> Subject: Re: Rubber hinges


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 06/ 10/ 09, 6:27am

http://busfixx.tripod.com/sitebuilde...2007forweb.pdf

http://busfixx.tripod.com/busservice/id8.html

http://www.ibpindustries.com/products

Try these places

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[> [> Subject: Re: Rubber hinges


Author:
Tim C
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Date Posted: 06/ 10/ 09, 7:18am

Thanks.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Rubber hinges


Author:
Tim C
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Date Posted: 06/ 22/ 09, 7:05am

Found the EXACT product. Contact info below
Steve Kolb
IBP Industries, Inc.
2055 Sprint Blvd
Apopka, Fl 32703
Toll Free: 1-800-468-5287
Office: 407-880-9700
Fax: 407-880-2026
skolb@ibpindustries.com

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[> Subject: Re: Rubber hinges


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 06/ 10/ 09, 6:28am

http://busfixx.tripod.com/sitebuilde...2007forweb.pdf.

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[> Subject: Re: Rubber hinges


Author:
Bill
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Date Posted: 06/ 19/ 09, 3:41am


call Scott in parts.

http://www.holland-motorhomes.com/

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[> [> Subject: Re: Rubber hinges


Author:
Tim C
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Date Posted: 06/ 25/ 09, 11:31am

Scott at Holland had the best price and there was no minimum order.

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[> Subject: Re: Rubber hinges


Author:
STEVE0
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Date Posted: 10/ 3/ 13, 9:00pm

I LIVE IN THE HOUSTON TEXAS AREA AND I GOT 6 FT OF THE MAT'L FRON RUSH TRUCK CENTER...IT IS USED ON A LOT OF DIFFERNT MODELS....REAL CHEAP TOO

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Subject: PART NUMBER FOR FRONT SHOCKS FOR 86 PT40


Author:
STEVEO
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Date Posted: 10/ 3/ 13, 9:07am

I HAVE A 1986 PT40 WITH AND I BELIEVE RIDE WELL AIR SUSP...IT DEFINITELY HAS AIR SUSP. I HAVE CONTACTED BLUEBIRD PARTS AND THEY ONLY MAKE SOME GUESSES...BUT I NEEDPART NUMBERS FOR FRONT SHOCKS....AND ALSO REAR FOR FUTURE REFERENCE...IF THIS INFO IS SO HARD TOCOME BY....ANY HELP WOULD BE APRECIATED

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Subject: Just bought a 1969 wanderlodge


Author:
John Boh (Giddy)
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Date Posted: 09/ 23/ 13, 4:26pm

I just purchased the 1969 wanderlodge that is dipicted in the pictures on this website....does anyone have any history on this bird?

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Subject: Air Compressor runs intermittenly when parked


Author:
Richard Sheriff
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Date Posted: 09/ 10/ 13, 12:38pm

When parked with jacks down, air compressor runs for a few seconds each minute. Is this normal?

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[> Subject: Re: Air Compressor runs intermittenly when parked


Author:
ernie
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Date Posted: 09/ 9/ 13, 4:02pm

what coach?

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[> Subject: Re: Air Compressor runs intermittently when parked


Author:
Bill
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Date Posted: 09/ 10/ 13, 12:38pm


Most of the technical folks hang out here.
Wanderlodge Owners Group ,
the link is on the home Q&A page, more response & quicker answers

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Subject: SP model


Author:
griz
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Date Posted: 09/ 7/ 13, 8:59pm

For what years did BlueBird make the SP with the CAT 3208 and in what lengths did it come?

TIA,
Griz aka Steve

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[> Subject: Re: SP model


Author:
Ernie
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Date Posted: 09/ 9/ 13, 4:01pm

check out the history link on home page for all that info

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Subject: Financing a Blue Bird


Author:
Sherry Hindman (fustrated)
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Date Posted: 08/ 16/ 13, 10:08am

Hello, we have a 1979 wanderlodge,( Big B's). We are wanting to buy another one. But we are having a problem with financing/not because of my credit or anything like that. But no one wants to loan money on an older coach, no matter what the make or model is? can any one direct to someone who can help. We love our Bluebird and use it regularly.

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[> Subject: Re: Financing a Blue Bird


Author:
Bluebird Bob
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Date Posted: 08/ 31/ 13, 8:12pm

We financed our 84 bird at our Credit Union.
They don't care what year it is if you have good credit and a few bucks in the account.

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Subject: 1982 PT40 Chassie Heat Shut off


Author:
Chuck Lazarus
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Date Posted: 08/ 21/ 13, 6:26pm

Please tell me where to shut off the Chassis Heat as I have a small leak in the system ans send the answer to my e-mail. Thank for your help.

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[> Subject: Re: 1982 PT40 Chassie Heat Shut off


Author:
Bluebird Bob
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Date Posted: 08/ 31/ 13, 8:10pm

If yours is like our PT36 (I think it is), open up the engine compartment and on the left side you will see some valves (Sporlan). These control the heating portion of your rig. The switches are on the overhead over the driver's seat.
I took mine out and put regular plumbing shut off valves on mine.

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Subject: ENGINES... FRONT OR PUSHER AVANTAGE... DISADVANTAGE...


Author:
GREG CLARK.... BEGINNER (SEEKER)
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Date Posted: 07/ 30/ 13, 4:09pm


I AM CONCERNED OVER THE TRUE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN BUYING A 1987 FRONT ENGINE OR A 1989 PUSHER BB... I LIKE THEM BOTH BUT I HAVE BEEN READING HARVEY'S COLUMN ABOUT ENGINE HEAT... IT HAS ME CONCERNED... BESIDES THE OBVIOUS SOUND DIFFERENCE IN THE COCKPIT...AND A LITTLE MORE ROOM... AND THE GEN UP FRONT... IS THE 3208 TURBO EFFICIENCY PERFORMANCE THE SAME IN BOTH CASES????

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[> Subject: Re: ENGINES... FRONT OR PUSHER AVANTAGE... DISADVANTAGE...


Author:
Larry B
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Date Posted: 08/ 2/ 13, 7:39am

After spending almost a year looking I went with the pusher and am so glad I did. I like the Detroit Diesel and when cruising down the highway it is very quiet.

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Subject: detroit marine engine 12 v 71


Author:
vijay
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Date Posted: 07/ 9/ 13, 4:47am

I am facing problem with Detroit engine 12v 71.at idle speed their no leakage from turbocharger exhaust side. when engine is given load ,then lub oil leaks in turbine side. I can't make out from where it is coming.
pls advice what could be the problem. I have already changed all piston rings ...but still prolem is same.

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Subject: air step 92 pt40


Author:
billy rosenthal
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Date Posted: 06/ 29/ 13, 8:42am

Just bought my pt40 knowing the air step was not working still on the road enjoying my 40 I took the manifold apart cleaned reassemble same thing good air pressure and yes master switch and at are on, stairs just hang half way. the solenoid that faces to the rear is warm here clicking when the master is turned thanks billy

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Subject: Re: 1988 8v92 DDEC system


Author:
Bill Adams
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Date Posted: 06/ 8/ 13, 2:44pm

I have a 1988 DDEC I which has lost power. It shows up as a loss of turbo boost but the boost sensor is good and the gauge is correct. When I accelerated when things were working the boost gauge sprang to the top boost. Now it gradually works it's way up and tops out around 12-15 pounds max. It used to be closer to 20.
Everything related to the engine itself is fine (even put in a new engine) so it's electronics related. It's a CC conversion and there is a large black box with a cage front that contains some unknown electronics in addition to the DDEC module in the front, the ATEC module behind it and the fuel control box in the engine.
It has been to dozens of repair facilities but Steward & Stephenson in Dallas screwed it up even further as the exhaust temperatures are now way too high and I have to drive hills using my pyrometer as a gauge of how fast I can go (which is not very fast these days). If anyone has any info, wiring diagrams or suggestions I would be most appreciative.

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Subject: Wanderlodge inspection


Author:
Darryl Hammock
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Date Posted: 05/ 30/ 13, 11:35am

I am interested in buying a used Wanderlodge. Are there inspectors that are familiar with these that I can use before purchasing one?

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