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Date Posted: 23:20:25 03/12/02 Tue
Author: WOG
Author Host/IP: 64.187.5.85
Subject: Before and after
In reply to: squeak 's message, "Wog do you refrain from sin" on 20:59:34 03/12/02 Tue

s> Wog do you refrain from sin...Because you fear eternal hell or because you know your father in heaven knows what's best for you? Do you refrain out of fear or love?

W> Naturally the latter. When talking with others I say that there is not only consequence in this life because of sin but there is an eternal consequence as well.

s> Remember WOG people who have no spiritual enlightenment at all- rest assured- have little fear of ANY KIND OF HELL.

W> I ususally leave that up to God. I have to ask myself why would they not have spiritual enlightenment? Maybe because nobody said anything to them. Just take a listen to babe. This person may have problems that a lot of love will sure help. But she should also know that there is the possibility of deliverance as well and for eternity.

s> . So in truth people who turn to God out of a fear of hell, are only taking for granted what others have told them. They don't know hell to be a spiritual reality from God for themselves.

W> Well what about people who die without hearing about hell is that going to change anything? Does that mean there is no hell?

Rom 1:18-20
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,
19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them.
20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, (NKJ)

Even though I have never had children myself, I can understand a love of a parent for a child. But you know what else I see? I see the faith of the child in the parent. Imagine a child putting their faith in an imperfect parent. Your right, "perfect love" does cast out fear.

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You've brought up some very good points -- squeak, 09:30:41 03/13/02 Wed
- WOW squeak awesome -- shy, 10:10:25 03/13/02 Wed
  - According to gnosticism squeak -- WOG, 14:24:49 03/14/02 Thu
    - What next? -- WOG, 14:26:53 03/14/02 Thu
      - I was thinking the same thing -- squeak, 20:18:39 03/14/02 Thu
        Not at all squeak -- WOG, 08:57:16 03/15/02 Fri
        Wog I wish -- squeak, 12:01:07 03/15/02 Fri
        I'm going by her words -- WOG, 13:01:08 03/15/02 Fri
        I didn't take her -- squeak, 00:43:09 03/16/02 Sat
        And what is Perfect Love? -- WOG, 12:52:58 03/16/02 Sat
- Meet the real chief -- WOG, 14:21:25 03/14/02 Thu
  - It isn't the chief in question -- squeak, 20:19:42 03/14/02 Thu
  - Oh I get it -- squeak, 20:25:10 03/14/02 Thu
    - The Sovereignty of God -- WOG, 09:10:53 03/15/02 Fri
      - Re: The Sovereignty of God -- Dennis, 09:39:38 03/15/02 Fri
        This is such an encouraging -- squeak, 12:06:39 03/15/02 Fri
        Sorry Dennis -- WOG, 13:31:14 03/15/02 Fri
        Re: Sorry Dennis -- Dennis, 13:44:23 03/15/02 Fri
        I guess silence means -- WOG, 22:06:30 03/15/02 Fri
        Re: I guess silence means -- Dennis, 22:49:18 03/15/02 Fri
        Who is the one sulking? -- WOG, 13:09:50 03/16/02 Sat