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Subject: Well, if it were a former posting, I know for a fact that Delores had a queen a few years ago that gave her many problems. It seems the girl wanted the title and the scholarship, but did not want the duties associated with the title. The girl did not even show up for her farewell. Delores told me all about it at the time it was happening. So, there are two sides to every story. Author: No name [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 10:51:58 02/02/26 Mon In reply to: 's message, "I read the same thread you did including the comments asking where her former right hand went and someone saying pay attention to maintained relationships with formers - so I guess there were different interpretations of the information conveyed, do with that what you will. saying she was nice to you in passing, versus people asking those questions and what was clearly a former saying what a bad experience she had, leads me to the conclusionn it wasn’t just speculation or unsubstantiated claims. You can either understand succession planning has to happen and that people can treat people differently, especially behind closed doors, or you can live assuming everybody is what they present in a two second convo at MNC… I don’t know how to put it any simpler." on 17:20:58 01/31/26 Sat [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date Soo you heard one side. if you’ve been around this program long enough, you know there are two sides to every story, and it’s not always the ED who is in the right. But if living in the delusion that of the 100+ girls who have been crowned by that local in the last 30 years, less than a quarter of those come back to the local (but some go to locals of other titles they had?) is all of the girls’ fault and not the experience they were given at said local then rock on. For a third and final time, talking about bringing in younger folks to at minimum assist, without them being run off by someone who has to be nearing 90 is not anybody being mean. It’s discussing what it looks like for that local to still exist. If Delores can’t handle that, or her defenders can’t either, maybe you don’t have that local or MNC delegates’ best interest at heart. (NT) No name 12:51:16 02/02/26 Mon Look, I more than heard the story from Delores. The contestant in question was a rogue contestant from out of state. (It might even be you) She was uncooperative and only wanted the ticket to state. Thankfully she did squat. Delores has put years into that Gastonia program and I'm sure if you check with many of her past queens they would say they had a positive experience. Sorry that you did not. (NT) -- No name, 12:23:12 02/19/26 Thu Whether 1, 5, or 100+ sucked doesn’t justify her brining that anger into every year and treating everyone subsequent to that person like they suck too without ever giving them a chance - a lot of people are willing to spin a story where they look better and like the victim. But if dozens of girls can confirm the ED is the problem, I can’t really imagine being in an org that supports and empowers women and saying you don’t believe them. But keep going, girlfriend. (NT) -- No name, 11:45:58 02/20/26 Fri It’s funny how accountability suddenly becomes “rogue behavior” when someone speaks up. Respectfully, decades in a role doesn’t make someone above criticism, it just means they’ve had decades to get it right. If multiple contestants across different years are saying the same things, that’s not a smear campaign… that’s a pattern. Nobody is owed silence because of tenure, loyalty, or friendships. Titleholders deserve to be treated with respect, transparency, and professionalism… every single year. If the program truly reflects empowerment, then listening to concerns shouldn’t be a problem. Dismissing them as “one side of the story” without actually addressing them is exactly why people keep speaking up. We want better for these girls and for the program. That’s not being ungrateful… that’s caring enough to expect better leadership from Delores and anyone else in charge. (NT) -- No name, 12:30:53 02/20/26 Fri Well, I've yet to see evidence from all of these other girls, as you speak of. To be honest, you seem to be the only one mouthing off. A d you know what that old country saying is.....A stuck pig squeals the loudest. You go, girlfriend! (NT) -- No name, 03:44:08 02/21/26 Sat did you learn that one from Delores when she’s bashing every girl who doesn’t have an ED as being fat piggies? (NT) -- No name, 12:13:53 02/21/26 Sat One of Delores’ former titleholders here… I was one of those she forced into an ED. Constant comments on my weight, she was always asking, “did you do crunches today?”, and the amount of times I heard, “I can see your bellybutton through that dress. You’re not wearing it or put a bandaid over it. Ew.”… I looked like a bobble head by the time I crowned the next poor girl into Delores’ hands. (NT) -- No name, 13:09:26 02/21/26 Sat You must have been overweight and need to tone up then. Do your best in every category or don't compete. (NT) -- No name, 21:07:09 02/22/26 Sun Let me reiterate, imagine speaking to women in this org like this - when you are part of an org that “empowers” women. That’s not okay. Sorry your mommy hurt you once, and so you think this is acceptable. I’m 99% sure I know who I saying this and defending D… and friend, it’s not like you ever competed and I guarantee if your daughter was spoken to like this you would raise hell. (NT) -- No name, 03:47:21 02/23/26 Mon This is the problem. You think you're above criticism, anything goes, and you should be able to get on stage and do whatever you want. That's not empowerment. That's laziness. Empowerment is recognizing your strengths AND your weaknesses and playing up your strengths, working on your weaknesses to turn them into strengths, and then doing everything possible to downplay the ones that remain. But if you aren't willing to acknowledge that you have weaknesses, then you've lost before you start. (NT) -- No name, 07:13:10 02/23/26 Mon Wow. It's like this is everything that we've been saying about Delores. Is she above all of that too? Or are we only allowed to give criticism to the titleholders? (NT) -- No name, 08:27:44 02/23/26 Mon Re: Wow. It's like this is everything that we've been saying about Delores. Is she above all of that too? Or are we only allowed to give criticism to the titleholders? (NT) -- No name, 10:39:49 02/23/26 Mon So she wanted to take competitive girls to the Miss NC pageant. Can you blame her? If you can see your belly button through the dress, there was a weight problem. (NT) -- No name, 11:44:17 02/25/26 Wed i need you to pick a side. She didn’t want girls who “only wanted” to get to MNC - which is an MAO thing now, you can release after state and therefore lots of girls don’t finish their year or do much in their community - but also she just wanted “competitive” girls who were skeleton thin because you also think being midsize disqualifies you from being an MAO titleholder. Make it make sense, please. (NT) -- No name, 15:11:58 02/25/26 Wed I’ve had a handful of directors in this system. Was at my thinnest as Delores’ queen. And Delores is the only director who ever uttered a word (and there were many words uttered) that I needed to change my body. The others were happy with me if I was happy with me. So if Delores chooses to project her own insecurities, or that you need to be Depression era thin, that seems like a problem with herself, not something to give young women a complex about. (NT) -- Call me Miss Piggy, 15:21:03 02/25/26 Wed Spoken like someone who was still chunky even "at her thinnest." (NT) -- No name, 17:46:21 02/25/26 Wed spoken like someone who internalizes misogynistic viewpoints and thinks it’s acceptable to tell a teenager she’s not attractive because she doesn’t have enough muscle tone. Meanwhile, I’m waiting for you and Delores to have the courage to get on a stage in a fitness routine or swimsuit and heels. Oh.. wait. You were busy spending your life wavering on if someone needs to be thin to be competitive, but not too competitive because they shouldn’t actually want to be MNC or MNCT. Next time you and Delores sit around and talk about how fat anyone is, since we all know she talks about girls, current, past, and some who refused to compete for her, invite me over, we can dissect pics of you while we’re at it. (NT) -- No name, 18:26:27 02/25/26 Wed If a girl is going to compete in a pageant that requires her to wear an evening gown and swimsuit/fitness attire, then the minimum expectation is that she be fit, not fat. (NT) -- No name, 20:16:00 02/26/26 Thu Too bad you couldn’t take a GLP-1 like many girls currently do, including our current queen. But pageant girl beware, it makes your hair fall out 😂 (NT) -- No name, 07:18:39 03/01/26 Sun Re: Well, I've yet to see evidence from all of these other girls, as you speak of. To be honest, you seem to be the only one mouthing off. A d you know what that old country saying is.....A stuck pig squeals the loudest. You go, girlfriend! -- No name, 22:14:43 02/24/26 Tue Re: Well, I've yet to see evidence from all of these other girls, as you speak of. To be honest, you seem to be the only one mouthing off. A d you know what that old country saying is.....A stuck pig squeals the loudest. You go, girlfriend! (NT) -- No name, 23:42:01 02/26/26 Thu