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Date Posted: 14:11:53 03/18/02 Mon
Author: mt. healthy mountaineer
Subject: Re: Did jesus die? Or was he asleep?
In reply to: Adilbrand 's message, "Re: Did jesus die? Or was he asleep?" on 11:46:13 03/18/02 Mon

But, of the 4 gospel writers, and their sources, only John was present. The others had fled and/or were in hiding.

You are insisting that all 4 stories must be identical in detail, rather than non-contadictory. That is silly. I have 2 dozen histories of the U.S. Civil War. Most include a brief biography of Lincoln. Most fail to mention that Lincoln spent a great deal of his childhood in Indiana. Using your standards, we must now dispute the fact that Lincoln lived in Indiana. It must be deleted from all discussion. It is verbotten. Very few of the books mention U.S. Grant's childhood. I suppose he had no childhood, then. He was born an adult and soon thereafter entered West Point. In fact, using your standards, all 2 dozen of my history books must be identical or they are flawed.

Your arguement is that it must be false because someone can make up a story. So then - nothing is true, because everything can be a fictionalized story.

Was Julius Caesar a real man? More documents survive from the first century pertaining to Christ than Julius Caeser's own time about him. Maybe Caesar was a fiction.

Virtually no first hand papers survive about Alexander the Great. My Civil War books don't mention him either. He must be fiction.

I have no papers or letters to prove the existance of Vincent Darlage - just a few old photos. Do you exist? If I were to write a biography of you that was not entirely complete would it be wrong and not worthy of consideration? Would it be fiction because anyone could make up a character named Vincent?

But, once again we digress - the original question was could Jesus have fainted, swooned or even been knocked out to fulfill the prophecy of his resurrection?

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Time for a rant -- mvd, 16:29:10 03/18/02 Mon
- Re: Time for a rant -- mt. healthy mountaineer, 10:09:58 03/20/02 Wed
  - I have greater freedom than you can know -- Adilbrand, 10:29:21 03/20/02 Wed
  - Re: Time for a rant -- mvd, 10:30:06 03/20/02 Wed
- When was the last time a stream told you not to have sex outside of marriage? -- bill, 20:29:11 03/29/02 Fri
  - Good! -- mt. healthy mountaineer, 07:52:37 04/01/02 Mon
    - Rutting pigs -- mvd, 11:24:49 04/01/02 Mon
Re: Did jesus die? Or was he asleep? -- Adilbrand, 17:21:12 03/18/02 Mon
- Re: Did jesus die? Or was he asleep? -- Abba's Son, 15:52:03 03/20/02 Wed
  - Re: Did jesus die? Or was he asleep? -- Adilbrand, 17:18:45 03/20/02 Wed
  - Some comments on John -- Adilbrand, 00:59:06 03/21/02 Thu
Point by Point - Ha! -- Adilbrand, 08:43:23 03/19/02 Tue
- Prophecy Example -- Adilbrand, 08:53:02 03/19/02 Tue