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Subject: Re: Citizenship

Author:
Freddy

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Date Posted: 17:28:02 06/02/15 Tue
In reply to: Jon 's message, "Re: Citizenship" on 22:29:28 05/31/15 Sun

Yes, the child is a US citizen as long as the father satisfies the rules given in another reply. It would help tremendously if the parents go to a US embassy or consulate and register the birth, reducing paperwork in the future.

The child is a natural-born citizen of the US, whether he ever enters the US.

Dual citizenship? Perhaps. The US will consider him a citizen of the United States. The US does not recognize dual citizenship, but France can consider him a citizen too.

Would he have to renounce French citizenship? I have no clue.

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Looking for clarification more than anything else.

How is US citizenship granted or "transferred"?

This is related to a grandnephew. Grandnephew was born in Grenoble, France last summer (cute kid BTW, but I'm biased) to a US citizen (father) and French citizen (mother).

Does grandnephew "carry" dual French-USA citizenship?

Now to throw a wrench into the works......say sometime in the future grandnephew decides to run for US President (POTUS), similar to Ted Cruz. Is grandnephew considered a "natural born" citizen? Does grandnephew renounce his French citizenship? And to further muddy the question, let's say grandnephew pretty much stays in France until adulthood (or beyond). How does that (in France 'til adulthood) affect eligibility for POTUS?

I understand this is more semantics than anything else. With all of the furor about Barak Obama and the birther movement and more than a little interest in how John McCain born in the US Panama Canal Zone to USA citizen parents were "eligible" for POTUS. Obama was born in a US state, Hawaii, to USA and Kenyan parents. For John McCain it gets "interesting" as he was born in a USA protectorate, Panama Canal Zone, of USA citizens.

Please note I do NOT want to start a flame war or anything similar. This is one of "those" questions I've pondered over the last few years and have not found a clear explanation.

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Ian
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Date Posted: 20:22:34 06/02/15 Tue

> The US does not
>recognize dual citizenship, but France can consider
>him a citizen too.

Not so
Based on the U.S. Department of State regulation on dual citizenship (7 FAM 1162), the Supreme Court of the United States has stated that dual citizenship is a "status long recognized in the law" and that "a person may have and exercise rights of nationality in two countries and be subject to the responsibilities of both..."

Ian