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Subject: 1958 friends


Author:
Wes
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Date Posted: 12:31:15 11/28/12 Wed

Another column picked up from the paper. The story is far from done and probably won't be posted for years.

-- Wes

-----------------


November is National Novel Writing Month among other things, so of course I've been working on one, not that I might not do it at other times of the year. I spent much of the Thanksgiving weekend working on a story of four college kids getting to be friends in 1958; in the story they'll stay friends the rest of their lives. (I haven't gotten that far in the story yet.)

Now, setting a story in 1958 means that I want it to sound like it's 1958, and getting the details right turned into part of the fun.

For instance, the four kids go on a first date. Where are they going to go? To a movie, naturally; some things don't change. But what movie? Thank you, Google! Bridge on the River Kwai doesn't strike any of them as a great idea for a first date movie. (OK, OK. If there are any real super movie buffs or hairsplitters out there, yes, that's a 1957 movie, but this scene is set in early 1958 and it probably would still have been in first run.)

In any case, (and that's probably not a phrase that would have been commonly used in 1958) and considering a limited selection, they wind up going to Vertigo. After the movie, one of the girls comments, "It wasn't too bad, but I don't know if I liked it." (I was surprised to learn that on some lists that the 1957 Vertigo has recently outplaced Citizen Kane as the best movie of all time. Thanks again, Google!)

But anyway, in the story the four kids have fun, and go on to other things. After all, going on a date on a Friday beats hanging around a dorm room, especially when the dorm room is devoid of some of the things some college kids would consider essentials today: things like microwaves, refrigerators, portable TVs, video games, computers, and members of the opposite sex.

They might have gone down to the dorm lounge to watch TV (almost certainly black and white) but what would they have watched? It's easy to come up with the names and some details of popular shows like Dragnet (All I want are the facts, Ma'am.) but sometimes even Google isn't a big help in telling me what night the show was on back then, so I had to be a little fuzzy about it.

During the story one of the kids buys a used Triumph roadster, an English sports car. But was it a TR-2 or a TR-3? Good question on that one too, but thanks to Wikipedia, I decided it was a TR-2. Another of the kids drives a '53 Nash Statesman -- not a first choice for a college car, but he got it from his dad for the right price (which is to say free), so he doesn't have much room for complaint. But was it a six or a V-8? Turns out Nash wasn't making V-8s in that era; I'd thought they were. The parents of one of the girls drives a DeSoto. I already knew that was a V-8, but that point wasn't necessary for the story.

The following summer, one of the girls in the story likes to wear one-piece playsuits. That helped place the story in time; I don't think I've seen a one-piece playsuit on a female older than about five in decades, although they were once popular for girls of the right age group. In my day girls were required to wear them in gym class. They were actually kind of cute, although I doubt you'll find many girls from my high school class who would agree with me. Of course, I had to do some research on that, (again, thanks Google!) to find out that they're considered retro these days, but they may be regaining popularity.

1958 was a long time ago -- I was ten -- and my memory of those days isn't very clear, so it was nice to be able to go back and research those things online. If one of those kids in 1958 was researching a story set in 1904 (the same distance back) they wouldn't have had the internet to help them. But, I'd bet that 1904 would have seemed as strange to them as 1958 is to us.

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[> Subject: Re: 1958 friends


Author:
The Mage
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Date Posted: 14:48:31 11/28/12 Wed

>Ahhh... Wes you bring back so many memories of going to the Drive in restaurant with the great carhops to tease!!! Hehehehehe I need some onion rings...






Another column picked up from the paper. The story is
>far from done and probably won't be posted for years.
>
>-- Wes
>
>-----------------
>
>
>November is National Novel Writing Month among other
>things, so of course I've been working on one, not
>that I might not do it at other times of the year. I
>spent much of the Thanksgiving weekend working on a
>story of four college kids getting to be friends in
>1958; in the story they'll stay friends the rest of
>their lives. (I haven't gotten that far in the story
>yet.)
>
>Now, setting a story in 1958 means that I want it to
>sound like it's 1958, and getting the details right
>turned into part of the fun.
>
>For instance, the four kids go on a first date. Where
>are they going to go? To a movie, naturally; some
>things don't change. But what movie? Thank you,
>Google! Bridge on the River Kwai doesn't strike
>any of them as a great idea for a first date movie.
>(OK, OK. If there are any real super movie buffs or
>hairsplitters out there, yes, that's a 1957 movie, but
>this scene is set in early 1958 and it probably would
>still have been in first run.)
>
>In any case, (and that's probably not a phrase that
>would have been commonly used in 1958) and considering
>a limited selection, they wind up going to
>Vertigo. After the movie, one of the girls
>comments, "It wasn't too bad, but I don't know if I
>liked it." (I was surprised to learn that on some
>lists that the 1957 Vertigo has recently
>outplaced Citizen Kane as the best movie of all
>time. Thanks again, Google!)
>
>But anyway, in the story the four kids have fun, and
>go on to other things. After all, going on a date on a
>Friday beats hanging around a dorm room, especially
>when the dorm room is devoid of some of the things
>some college kids would consider essentials today:
>things like microwaves, refrigerators, portable TVs,
>video games, computers, and members of the opposite
>sex.
>
>They might have gone down to the dorm lounge to watch
>TV (almost certainly black and white) but what would
>they have watched? It's easy to come up with the names
>and some details of popular shows like Dragnet
>
(All I want are the facts, Ma'am.) but sometimes
>even Google isn't a big help in telling me what night
>the show was on back then, so I had to be a little
>fuzzy about it.
>
>During the story one of the kids buys a used Triumph
>roadster, an English sports car. But was it a TR-2 or
>a TR-3? Good question on that one too, but thanks to
>Wikipedia, I decided it was a TR-2. Another of the
>kids drives a '53 Nash Statesman -- not a first choice
>for a college car, but he got it from his dad for the
>right price (which is to say free), so he doesn't have
>much room for complaint. But was it a six or a V-8?
>Turns out Nash wasn't making V-8s in that era; I'd
>thought they were. The parents of one of the girls
>drives a DeSoto. I already knew that was a V-8, but
>that point wasn't necessary for the story.
>
>The following summer, one of the girls in the story
>likes to wear one-piece playsuits. That helped place
>the story in time; I don't think I've seen a one-piece
>playsuit on a female older than about five in decades,
>although they were once popular for girls of the right
>age group. In my day girls were required to wear them
>in gym class. They were actually kind of cute,
>although I doubt you'll find many girls from my high
>school class who would agree with me. Of course, I had
>to do some research on that, (again, thanks Google!)
>to find out that they're considered retro these days,
>but they may be regaining popularity.
>
>1958 was a long time ago -- I was ten -- and my memory
>of those days isn't very clear, so it was nice to be
>able to go back and research those things online. If
>one of those kids in 1958 was researching a story set
>in 1904 (the same distance back) they wouldn't have
>had the internet to help them. But, I'd bet that 1904
>would have seemed as strange to them as 1958 is to us.
[> Subject: Re: 1958 friends


Author:
Andy
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Date Posted: 19:59:41 11/28/12 Wed

Didn't South Pacific and Cat on a hot tin roof come out about that time.

>Another column picked up from the paper. The story is
>far from done and probably won't be posted for years.
>
>-- Wes
>
>-----------------
>
>
>November is National Novel Writing Month among other
>things, so of course I've been working on one, not
>that I might not do it at other times of the year. I
>spent much of the Thanksgiving weekend working on a
>story of four college kids getting to be friends in
>1958; in the story they'll stay friends the rest of
>their lives. (I haven't gotten that far in the story
>yet.)
>
>Now, setting a story in 1958 means that I want it to
>sound like it's 1958, and getting the details right
>turned into part of the fun.
>
>For instance, the four kids go on a first date. Where
>are they going to go? To a movie, naturally; some
>things don't change. But what movie? Thank you,
>Google! Bridge on the River Kwai doesn't strike
>any of them as a great idea for a first date movie.
>(OK, OK. If there are any real super movie buffs or
>hairsplitters out there, yes, that's a 1957 movie, but
>this scene is set in early 1958 and it probably would
>still have been in first run.)
>
>In any case, (and that's probably not a phrase that
>would have been commonly used in 1958) and considering
>a limited selection, they wind up going to
>Vertigo. After the movie, one of the girls
>comments, "It wasn't too bad, but I don't know if I
>liked it." (I was surprised to learn that on some
>lists that the 1957 Vertigo has recently
>outplaced Citizen Kane as the best movie of all
>time. Thanks again, Google!)
>
>But anyway, in the story the four kids have fun, and
>go on to other things. After all, going on a date on a
>Friday beats hanging around a dorm room, especially
>when the dorm room is devoid of some of the things
>some college kids would consider essentials today:
>things like microwaves, refrigerators, portable TVs,
>video games, computers, and members of the opposite
>sex.
>
>They might have gone down to the dorm lounge to watch
>TV (almost certainly black and white) but what would
>they have watched? It's easy to come up with the names
>and some details of popular shows like Dragnet
>
(All I want are the facts, Ma'am.) but sometimes
>even Google isn't a big help in telling me what night
>the show was on back then, so I had to be a little
>fuzzy about it.
>
>During the story one of the kids buys a used Triumph
>roadster, an English sports car. But was it a TR-2 or
>a TR-3? Good question on that one too, but thanks to
>Wikipedia, I decided it was a TR-2. Another of the
>kids drives a '53 Nash Statesman -- not a first choice
>for a college car, but he got it from his dad for the
>right price (which is to say free), so he doesn't have
>much room for complaint. But was it a six or a V-8?
>Turns out Nash wasn't making V-8s in that era; I'd
>thought they were. The parents of one of the girls
>drives a DeSoto. I already knew that was a V-8, but
>that point wasn't necessary for the story.
>
>The following summer, one of the girls in the story
>likes to wear one-piece playsuits. That helped place
>the story in time; I don't think I've seen a one-piece
>playsuit on a female older than about five in decades,
>although they were once popular for girls of the right
>age group. In my day girls were required to wear them
>in gym class. They were actually kind of cute,
>although I doubt you'll find many girls from my high
>school class who would agree with me. Of course, I had
>to do some research on that, (again, thanks Google!)
>to find out that they're considered retro these days,
>but they may be regaining popularity.
>
>1958 was a long time ago -- I was ten -- and my memory
>of those days isn't very clear, so it was nice to be
>able to go back and research those things online. If
>one of those kids in 1958 was researching a story set
>in 1904 (the same distance back) they wouldn't have
>had the internet to help them. But, I'd bet that 1904
>would have seemed as strange to them as 1958 is to us.
[> [> Subject: Re: 1958 friends


Author:
Wes
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Date Posted: 22:23:12 11/28/12 Wed


Both in 1958. I don't think I would want to take a couple of girls on a rather conservative first date to either of them. I origianlly considered Gigi, but it didn't come out until midyear.

-- Wes

>Didn't South Pacific and Cat on a hot tin roof come
>out about that time.
>
>>Another column picked up from the paper. The story is
>>far from done and probably won't be posted for years.
>>
>>-- Wes
>>
>>-----------------
>>
>>
>>November is National Novel Writing Month among other
>>things, so of course I've been working on one, not
>>that I might not do it at other times of the year. I
>>spent much of the Thanksgiving weekend working on a
>>story of four college kids getting to be friends in
>>1958; in the story they'll stay friends the rest of
>>their lives. (I haven't gotten that far in the story
>>yet.)
>>
>>Now, setting a story in 1958 means that I want it to
>>sound like it's 1958, and getting the details right
>>turned into part of the fun.
>>
>>For instance, the four kids go on a first date. Where
>>are they going to go? To a movie, naturally; some
>>things don't change. But what movie? Thank you,
>>Google! Bridge on the River Kwai doesn't strike
>>any of them as a great idea for a first date movie.
>>(OK, OK. If there are any real super movie buffs or
>>hairsplitters out there, yes, that's a 1957 movie, but
>>this scene is set in early 1958 and it probably would
>>still have been in first run.)
>>
>>In any case, (and that's probably not a phrase that
>>would have been commonly used in 1958) and considering
>>a limited selection, they wind up going to
>>Vertigo. After the movie, one of the girls
>>comments, "It wasn't too bad, but I don't know if I
>>liked it." (I was surprised to learn that on some
>>lists that the 1957 Vertigo has recently
>>outplaced Citizen Kane as the best movie of all
>>time. Thanks again, Google!)
>>
>>But anyway, in the story the four kids have fun, and
>>go on to other things. After all, going on a date on a
>>Friday beats hanging around a dorm room, especially
>>when the dorm room is devoid of some of the things
>>some college kids would consider essentials today:
>>things like microwaves, refrigerators, portable TVs,
>>video games, computers, and members of the opposite
>>sex.
>>
>>They might have gone down to the dorm lounge to watch
>>TV (almost certainly black and white) but what would
>>they have watched? It's easy to come up with the names
>>and some details of popular shows like Dragnet
>>
(All I want are the facts, Ma'am.) but sometimes
>>even Google isn't a big help in telling me what night
>>the show was on back then, so I had to be a little
>>fuzzy about it.
>>
>>During the story one of the kids buys a used Triumph
>>roadster, an English sports car. But was it a TR-2 or
>>a TR-3? Good question on that one too, but thanks to
>>Wikipedia, I decided it was a TR-2. Another of the
>>kids drives a '53 Nash Statesman -- not a first choice
>>for a college car, but he got it from his dad for the
>>right price (which is to say free), so he doesn't have
>>much room for complaint. But was it a six or a V-8?
>>Turns out Nash wasn't making V-8s in that era; I'd
>>thought they were. The parents of one of the girls
>>drives a DeSoto. I already knew that was a V-8, but
>>that point wasn't necessary for the story.
>>
>>The following summer, one of the girls in the story
>>likes to wear one-piece playsuits. That helped place
>>the story in time; I don't think I've seen a one-piece
>>playsuit on a female older than about five in decades,
>>although they were once popular for girls of the right
>>age group. In my day girls were required to wear them
>>in gym class. They were actually kind of cute,
>>although I doubt you'll find many girls from my high
>>school class who would agree with me. Of course, I had
>>to do some research on that, (again, thanks Google!)
>>to find out that they're considered retro these days,
>>but they may be regaining popularity.
>>
>>1958 was a long time ago -- I was ten -- and my memory
>>of those days isn't very clear, so it was nice to be
>>able to go back and research those things online. If
>>one of those kids in 1958 was researching a story set
>>in 1904 (the same distance back) they wouldn't have
>>had the internet to help them. But, I'd bet that 1904
>>would have seemed as strange to them as 1958 is to us.
[> Subject: Re: 1958 friends


Author:
Boyd Percy
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Date Posted: 00:37:35 11/29/12 Thu

>Another column picked up from the paper. The story is
>far from done and probably won't be posted for years.
>
>-- Wes
>
>-----------------
>
>
>November is National Novel Writing Month among other
>things, so of course I've been working on one, not
>that I might not do it at other times of the year. I
>spent much of the Thanksgiving weekend working on a
>story of four college kids getting to be friends in
>1958; in the story they'll stay friends the rest of
>their lives. (I haven't gotten that far in the story
>yet.)
>
>Now, setting a story in 1958 means that I want it to
>sound like it's 1958, and getting the details right
>turned into part of the fun.
>
>For instance, the four kids go on a first date. Where
>are they going to go? To a movie, naturally; some
>things don't change. But what movie? Thank you,
>Google! Bridge on the River Kwai doesn't strike
>any of them as a great idea for a first date movie.
>(OK, OK. If there are any real super movie buffs or
>hairsplitters out there, yes, that's a 1957 movie, but
>this scene is set in early 1958 and it probably would
>still have been in first run.)
>
>In any case, (and that's probably not a phrase that
>would have been commonly used in 1958) and considering
>a limited selection, they wind up going to
>Vertigo. After the movie, one of the girls
>comments, "It wasn't too bad, but I don't know if I
>liked it." (I was surprised to learn that on some
>lists that the 1957 Vertigo has recently
>outplaced Citizen Kane as the best movie of all
>time. Thanks again, Google!)
>
>But anyway, in the story the four kids have fun, and
>go on to other things. After all, going on a date on a
>Friday beats hanging around a dorm room, especially
>when the dorm room is devoid of some of the things
>some college kids would consider essentials today:
>things like microwaves, refrigerators, portable TVs,
>video games, computers, and members of the opposite
>sex.
>
>They might have gone down to the dorm lounge to watch
>TV (almost certainly black and white) but what would
>they have watched? It's easy to come up with the names
>and some details of popular shows like Dragnet
>
(All I want are the facts, Ma'am.) but sometimes
>even Google isn't a big help in telling me what night
>the show was on back then, so I had to be a little
>fuzzy about it.
>
>During the story one of the kids buys a used Triumph
>roadster, an English sports car. But was it a TR-2 or
>a TR-3? Good question on that one too, but thanks to
>Wikipedia, I decided it was a TR-2. Another of the
>kids drives a '53 Nash Statesman -- not a first choice
>for a college car, but he got it from his dad for the
>right price (which is to say free), so he doesn't have
>much room for complaint. But was it a six or a V-8?
>Turns out Nash wasn't making V-8s in that era; I'd
>thought they were. The parents of one of the girls
>drives a DeSoto. I already knew that was a V-8, but
>that point wasn't necessary for the story.
>
>The following summer, one of the girls in the story
>likes to wear one-piece playsuits. That helped place
>the story in time; I don't think I've seen a one-piece
>playsuit on a female older than about five in decades,
>although they were once popular for girls of the right
>age group. In my day girls were required to wear them
>in gym class. They were actually kind of cute,
>although I doubt you'll find many girls from my high
>school class who would agree with me. Of course, I had
>to do some research on that, (again, thanks Google!)
>to find out that they're considered retro these days,
>but they may be regaining popularity.
>
>1958 was a long time ago -- I was ten -- and my memory
>of those days isn't very clear, so it was nice to be
>able to go back and research those things online. If
>one of those kids in 1958 was researching a story set
>in 1904 (the same distance back) they wouldn't have
>had the internet to help them. But, I'd bet that 1904
>would have seemed as strange to them as 1958 is to us.

Since I'm about the same age as you, I remember 1958 as a pretty good year. Rather carefree and no worries. Maybe if I had been a teenager or in college at the time, I might feel differently. It still sounds like a good time to write about,
[> Subject: Re: 1958 friends


Author:
Skip
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Date Posted: 07:53:43 11/29/12 Thu

>Another column picked up from the paper. The story is
>far from done and probably won't be posted for years.
>
>-- Wes
>
>-----------------
>
>
>November is National Novel Writing Month among other
>things, so of course I've been working on one, not
>that I might not do it at other times of the year. I
>spent much of the Thanksgiving weekend working on a
>story of four college kids getting to be friends in
>1958; in the story they'll stay friends the rest of
>their lives. (I haven't gotten that far in the story
>yet.)
>
>Now, setting a story in 1958 means that I want it to
>sound like it's 1958, and getting the details right
>turned into part of the fun.
>
>For instance, the four kids go on a first date. Where
>are they going to go? To a movie, naturally; some
>things don't change. But what movie? Thank you,
>Google! Bridge on the River Kwai doesn't strike
>any of them as a great idea for a first date movie.
>(OK, OK. If there are any real super movie buffs or
>hairsplitters out there, yes, that's a 1957 movie, but
>this scene is set in early 1958 and it probably would
>still have been in first run.)
>
>In any case, (and that's probably not a phrase that
>would have been commonly used in 1958) and considering
>a limited selection, they wind up going to
>Vertigo. After the movie, one of the girls
>comments, "It wasn't too bad, but I don't know if I
>liked it." (I was surprised to learn that on some
>lists that the 1957 Vertigo has recently
>outplaced Citizen Kane as the best movie of all
>time. Thanks again, Google!)
>
>But anyway, in the story the four kids have fun, and
>go on to other things. After all, going on a date on a
>Friday beats hanging around a dorm room, especially
>when the dorm room is devoid of some of the things
>some college kids would consider essentials today:
>things like microwaves, refrigerators, portable TVs,
>video games, computers, and members of the opposite
>sex.
>
>They might have gone down to the dorm lounge to watch
>TV (almost certainly black and white) but what would
>they have watched? It's easy to come up with the names
>and some details of popular shows like Dragnet
>
(All I want are the facts, Ma'am.) but sometimes
>even Google isn't a big help in telling me what night
>the show was on back then, so I had to be a little
>fuzzy about it.
>
>During the story one of the kids buys a used Triumph
>roadster, an English sports car. But was it a TR-2 or
>a TR-3? Good question on that one too, but thanks to
>Wikipedia, I decided it was a TR-2. Another of the
>kids drives a '53 Nash Statesman -- not a first choice
>for a college car, but he got it from his dad for the
>right price (which is to say free), so he doesn't have
>much room for complaint. But was it a six or a V-8?
>Turns out Nash wasn't making V-8s in that era; I'd
>thought they were. The parents of one of the girls
>drives a DeSoto. I already knew that was a V-8, but
>that point wasn't necessary for the story.
>
>The following summer, one of the girls in the story
>likes to wear one-piece playsuits. That helped place
>the story in time; I don't think I've seen a one-piece
>playsuit on a female older than about five in decades,
>although they were once popular for girls of the right
>age group. In my day girls were required to wear them
>in gym class. They were actually kind of cute,
>although I doubt you'll find many girls from my high
>school class who would agree with me. Of course, I had
>to do some research on that, (again, thanks Google!)
>to find out that they're considered retro these days,
>but they may be regaining popularity.
>
>1958 was a long time ago -- I was ten -- and my memory
>of those days isn't very clear, so it was nice to be
>able to go back and research those things online. If
>one of those kids in 1958 was researching a story set
>in 1904 (the same distance back) they wouldn't have
>had the internet to help them. But, I'd bet that 1904
>would have seemed as strange to them as 1958 is to us.

Here are a few released in 1957 that might be good:

":10 to Yuma, The Enemy Below, Funny Face, Love in the Afternoon, 12 Angry Men, Gunfight at the OK Corral, Peyton Place and Pajama Game."

Don't know if they fit your story, but there are more.

-s
[> Subject: Re: 1958 friends


Author:
Deadly Ernest
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Date Posted: 07:53:49 11/29/12 Thu

Hey Wes,

Simplify your research and have fun, just watch American Graffiti and a dozen or so episodes of Happy Days - that'll give you lots of info on the era.

ernest


>Another column picked up from the paper. The story is
>far from done and probably won't be posted for years.
>
>-- Wes
>
>-----------------
>
>
>November is National Novel Writing Month among other
>things, so of course I've been working on one, not
>that I might not do it at other times of the year. I
>spent much of the Thanksgiving weekend working on a
>story of four college kids getting to be friends in
>1958; in the story they'll stay friends the rest of
>their lives. (I haven't gotten that far in the story
>yet.)
>
>Now, setting a story in 1958 means that I want it to
>sound like it's 1958, and getting the details right
>turned into part of the fun.
>
>For instance, the four kids go on a first date. Where
>are they going to go? To a movie, naturally; some
>things don't change. But what movie? Thank you,
>Google! Bridge on the River Kwai doesn't strike
>any of them as a great idea for a first date movie.
>(OK, OK. If there are any real super movie buffs or
>hairsplitters out there, yes, that's a 1957 movie, but
>this scene is set in early 1958 and it probably would
>still have been in first run.)
>
>In any case, (and that's probably not a phrase that
>would have been commonly used in 1958) and considering
>a limited selection, they wind up going to
>Vertigo. After the movie, one of the girls
>comments, "It wasn't too bad, but I don't know if I
>liked it." (I was surprised to learn that on some
>lists that the 1957 Vertigo has recently
>outplaced Citizen Kane as the best movie of all
>time. Thanks again, Google!)
>
>But anyway, in the story the four kids have fun, and
>go on to other things. After all, going on a date on a
>Friday beats hanging around a dorm room, especially
>when the dorm room is devoid of some of the things
>some college kids would consider essentials today:
>things like microwaves, refrigerators, portable TVs,
>video games, computers, and members of the opposite
>sex.
>
>They might have gone down to the dorm lounge to watch
>TV (almost certainly black and white) but what would
>they have watched? It's easy to come up with the names
>and some details of popular shows like Dragnet
>
(All I want are the facts, Ma'am.) but sometimes
>even Google isn't a big help in telling me what night
>the show was on back then, so I had to be a little
>fuzzy about it.
>
>During the story one of the kids buys a used Triumph
>roadster, an English sports car. But was it a TR-2 or
>a TR-3? Good question on that one too, but thanks to
>Wikipedia, I decided it was a TR-2. Another of the
>kids drives a '53 Nash Statesman -- not a first choice
>for a college car, but he got it from his dad for the
>right price (which is to say free), so he doesn't have
>much room for complaint. But was it a six or a V-8?
>Turns out Nash wasn't making V-8s in that era; I'd
>thought they were. The parents of one of the girls
>drives a DeSoto. I already knew that was a V-8, but
>that point wasn't necessary for the story.
>
>The following summer, one of the girls in the story
>likes to wear one-piece playsuits. That helped place
>the story in time; I don't think I've seen a one-piece
>playsuit on a female older than about five in decades,
>although they were once popular for girls of the right
>age group. In my day girls were required to wear them
>in gym class. They were actually kind of cute,
>although I doubt you'll find many girls from my high
>school class who would agree with me. Of course, I had
>to do some research on that, (again, thanks Google!)
>to find out that they're considered retro these days,
>but they may be regaining popularity.
>
>1958 was a long time ago -- I was ten -- and my memory
>of those days isn't very clear, so it was nice to be
>able to go back and research those things online. If
>one of those kids in 1958 was researching a story set
>in 1904 (the same distance back) they wouldn't have
>had the internet to help them. But, I'd bet that 1904
>would have seemed as strange to them as 1958 is to us.
[> Subject: Re: 1958 friends


Author:
Bob
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Date Posted: 08:31:43 11/29/12 Thu

I was 15 in '58. We had a Chrysler New Yorker St. Regis Deluxe in burnt orange and cream with leather interior very much like: (http://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbside-classics-american/curbside-classic-1955-chrysler-new-yorker-deluxe-st-regis-hows-that-for-a-long-name/). Weird to think of those colors now and it was a boat as most of the cars were in those days. Lots of chrome and the beginning of tail fins on steroids.

Worked summers caddying (that's why I don't play golf now). Pat Boone was big in those days. Movies were April Love in '57 and Mardi Gras in '58. I remember taking dates to both of those.
[> [> Subject: Re: 1958 friends


Author:
Bob
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Date Posted: 12:55:40 11/29/12 Thu

The previous link had a end parenthesis giving a 404. Corrected URL: >target=_blank
>href="http://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbside-classics-
>american/curbside-classic-1955-chrysler-new-yorker-delu
>xe-st-regis-hows-that-for-a-long-name/).">http://www.cu
>rbsideclassic.com/curbside-classics-american/curbside-c
>lassic-1955-chrysler-new-yorker-deluxe-st-regis-hows-th
>at-for-a-long-name/
[> [> [> Subject: Re: 1958 friends


Author:
Bob
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Date Posted: 12:59:30 11/29/12 Thu

Oy! that one was worse! Sometimes I hate HTML.

Here is the correct URL: http://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbside-classics-american/curbside-classic-1955-chrysler-new-yorker-deluxe-st-regis-hows-that-for-a-long-name/
[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: 1958 friends


Author:
bytemangler
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Date Posted: 20:28:20 12/04/12 Tue

A while back I was on a similar quest - researching for a story set in the early '60s. Best source I found was a library with NY Times Microfilm archives covering the period. These films include the ads in the sections (although not the ad inserts) and provide a wealth of info about products, cars, prices, movies,and a lot more. There's also:

http://www.thepeoplehistory.com/1958.html (change year as appropriate)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958 (same rule)

and a google search 'what happened in 1958'

good luck
[> Subject: Re: 1958 friends


Author:
imhandy
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Date Posted: 21:45:47 11/30/12 Fri

Another Movie would have been Giant with James Dean and Rock Hudson. Disneyland was on Sundays and Dragnet I believe was on Tuesdays. Walkin movies in Ca. cost a nickle but changed to a dime then a quarter some where in there. Drive-ins cost a dollar a carful. Maybe this will be a little help, check with IMDB.com.




>Another column picked up from the paper. The story is
>far from done and probably won't be posted for years.
>
>-- Wes
>
>-----------------
>
>
>November is National Novel Writing Month among other
>things, so of course I've been working on one, not
>that I might not do it at other times of the year. I
>spent much of the Thanksgiving weekend working on a
>story of four college kids getting to be friends in
>1958; in the story they'll stay friends the rest of
>their lives. (I haven't gotten that far in the story
>yet.)
>
>Now, setting a story in 1958 means that I want it to
>sound like it's 1958, and getting the details right
>turned into part of the fun.
>
>For instance, the four kids go on a first date. Where
>are they going to go? To a movie, naturally; some
>things don't change. But what movie? Thank you,
>Google! Bridge on the River Kwai doesn't strike
>any of them as a great idea for a first date movie.
>(OK, OK. If there are any real super movie buffs or
>hairsplitters out there, yes, that's a 1957 movie, but
>this scene is set in early 1958 and it probably would
>still have been in first run.)
>
>In any case, (and that's probably not a phrase that
>would have been commonly used in 1958) and considering
>a limited selection, they wind up going to
>Vertigo. After the movie, one of the girls
>comments, "It wasn't too bad, but I don't know if I
>liked it." (I was surprised to learn that on some
>lists that the 1957 Vertigo has recently
>outplaced Citizen Kane as the best movie of all
>time. Thanks again, Google!)
>
>But anyway, in the story the four kids have fun, and
>go on to other things. After all, going on a date on a
>Friday beats hanging around a dorm room, especially
>when the dorm room is devoid of some of the things
>some college kids would consider essentials today:
>things like microwaves, refrigerators, portable TVs,
>video games, computers, and members of the opposite
>sex.
>
>They might have gone down to the dorm lounge to watch
>TV (almost certainly black and white) but what would
>they have watched? It's easy to come up with the names
>and some details of popular shows like Dragnet
>
(All I want are the facts, Ma'am.) but sometimes
>even Google isn't a big help in telling me what night
>the show was on back then, so I had to be a little
>fuzzy about it.
>
>During the story one of the kids buys a used Triumph
>roadster, an English sports car. But was it a TR-2 or
>a TR-3? Good question on that one too, but thanks to
>Wikipedia, I decided it was a TR-2. Another of the
>kids drives a '53 Nash Statesman -- not a first choice
>for a college car, but he got it from his dad for the
>right price (which is to say free), so he doesn't have
>much room for complaint. But was it a six or a V-8?
>Turns out Nash wasn't making V-8s in that era; I'd
>thought they were. The parents of one of the girls
>drives a DeSoto. I already knew that was a V-8, but
>that point wasn't necessary for the story.
>
>The following summer, one of the girls in the story
>likes to wear one-piece playsuits. That helped place
>the story in time; I don't think I've seen a one-piece
>playsuit on a female older than about five in decades,
>although they were once popular for girls of the right
>age group. In my day girls were required to wear them
>in gym class. They were actually kind of cute,
>although I doubt you'll find many girls from my high
>school class who would agree with me. Of course, I had
>to do some research on that, (again, thanks Google!)
>to find out that they're considered retro these days,
>but they may be regaining popularity.
>
>1958 was a long time ago -- I was ten -- and my memory
>of those days isn't very clear, so it was nice to be
>able to go back and research those things online. If
>one of those kids in 1958 was researching a story set
>in 1904 (the same distance back) they wouldn't have
>had the internet to help them. But, I'd bet that 1904
>would have seemed as strange to them as 1958 is to us.
[> Subject: Re: 1958 friends


Author:
marv
[ Edit | View ]

Date Posted: 03:30:27 12/06/12 Thu

Some of the television shows that I remember are Cheyenne, Have Gun Will Travel, Bat Masterson, Gunsmoke, Tales of Wells Fargo,Maverick, Wagon Train, The Life and Legend of Wyatt Earp, Tales of Tombstone Territory, Peter Gunn, M Squad, Wanted: Dead or Alive, Sea Hunt, Ed Sullivan, Lawrence Welk, 77 Sunset Strip.

A friend joked that CBS stood for Cow Boy Shows and NBC was for Nothing But Cowboy shows.




>Another column picked up from the paper. The story is
>far from done and probably won't be posted for years.
>
>-- Wes
>
>-----------------
>
>
>November is National Novel Writing Month among other
>things, so of course I've been working on one, not
>that I might not do it at other times of the year. I
>spent much of the Thanksgiving weekend working on a
>story of four college kids getting to be friends in
>1958; in the story they'll stay friends the rest of
>their lives. (I haven't gotten that far in the story
>yet.)
>
>Now, setting a story in 1958 means that I want it to
>sound like it's 1958, and getting the details right
>turned into part of the fun.
>
>For instance, the four kids go on a first date. Where
>are they going to go? To a movie, naturally; some
>things don't change. But what movie? Thank you,
>Google! Bridge on the River Kwai doesn't strike
>any of them as a great idea for a first date movie.
>(OK, OK. If there are any real super movie buffs or
>hairsplitters out there, yes, that's a 1957 movie, but
>this scene is set in early 1958 and it probably would
>still have been in first run.)
>
>In any case, (and that's probably not a phrase that
>would have been commonly used in 1958) and considering
>a limited selection, they wind up going to
>Vertigo. After the movie, one of the girls
>comments, "It wasn't too bad, but I don't know if I
>liked it." (I was surprised to learn that on some
>lists that the 1957 Vertigo has recently
>outplaced Citizen Kane as the best movie of all
>time. Thanks again, Google!)
>
>But anyway, in the story the four kids have fun, and
>go on to other things. After all, going on a date on a
>Friday beats hanging around a dorm room, especially
>when the dorm room is devoid of some of the things
>some college kids would consider essentials today:
>things like microwaves, refrigerators, portable TVs,
>video games, computers, and members of the opposite
>sex.
>
>They might have gone down to the dorm lounge to watch
>TV (almost certainly black and white) but what would
>they have watched? It's easy to come up with the names
>and some details of popular shows like Dragnet
>
(All I want are the facts, Ma'am.) but sometimes
>even Google isn't a big help in telling me what night
>the show was on back then, so I had to be a little
>fuzzy about it.
>
>During the story one of the kids buys a used Triumph
>roadster, an English sports car. But was it a TR-2 or
>a TR-3? Good question on that one too, but thanks to
>Wikipedia, I decided it was a TR-2. Another of the
>kids drives a '53 Nash Statesman -- not a first choice
>for a college car, but he got it from his dad for the
>right price (which is to say free), so he doesn't have
>much room for complaint. But was it a six or a V-8?
>Turns out Nash wasn't making V-8s in that era; I'd
>thought they were. The parents of one of the girls
>drives a DeSoto. I already knew that was a V-8, but
>that point wasn't necessary for the story.
>
>The following summer, one of the girls in the story
>likes to wear one-piece playsuits. That helped place
>the story in time; I don't think I've seen a one-piece
>playsuit on a female older than about five in decades,
>although they were once popular for girls of the right
>age group. In my day girls were required to wear them
>in gym class. They were actually kind of cute,
>although I doubt you'll find many girls from my high
>school class who would agree with me. Of course, I had
>to do some research on that, (again, thanks Google!)
>to find out that they're considered retro these days,
>but they may be regaining popularity.
>
>1958 was a long time ago -- I was ten -- and my memory
>of those days isn't very clear, so it was nice to be
>able to go back and research those things online. If
>one of those kids in 1958 was researching a story set
>in 1904 (the same distance back) they wouldn't have
>had the internet to help them. But, I'd bet that 1904
>would have seemed as strange to them as 1958 is to us.
[> Subject: Re: 1958 friends


Author:
Jim Scott
[ Edit | View ]

Date Posted: 22:29:33 12/10/12 Mon

Wes,
You used a Studebaker in the Bradford Speedway story and now in Susan you gave her parents a Pontiac Aztek which is one of the weirdest looking cars of the last decade. But for 1958 you should have instantly thought of the most written about car of that decade which was the Edsel. I have always thought it got a bad reputation from the press but was at least as good as the Mercury with more daring styling. In the wide-spot-in-the-road in West Kentucky where I grew up a friend's older brother was the most popular DJ on the local radio station and he had a red Edsel convertible which was one of only 930 built that year. The DJ said it would run over 120 MPH with its big Lincoln engine but we teenagers drove it more sanely when we borrowed it that summer. The girls certainly loved it.

The DJ's younger brother went on to do two tours in fighter planes in Viet Nam and later became the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and then the NATO commander during Clinton's second term before he retired.

Jim


>Another column picked up from the paper. The story is
>far from done and probably won't be posted for years.
>
>-- Wes
>
>-----------------
>
>
>November is National Novel Writing Month among other
>things, so of course I've been working on one, not
>that I might not do it at other times of the year. I
>spent much of the Thanksgiving weekend working on a
>story of four college kids getting to be friends in
>1958; in the story they'll stay friends the rest of
>their lives. (I haven't gotten that far in the story
>yet.)
>
>Now, setting a story in 1958 means that I want it to
>sound like it's 1958, and getting the details right
>turned into part of the fun.
>
>For instance, the four kids go on a first date. Where
>are they going to go? To a movie, naturally; some
>things don't change. But what movie? Thank you,
>Google! Bridge on the River Kwai doesn't strike
>any of them as a great idea for a first date movie.
>(OK, OK. If there are any real super movie buffs or
>hairsplitters out there, yes, that's a 1957 movie, but
>this scene is set in early 1958 and it probably would
>still have been in first run.)
>
>In any case, (and that's probably not a phrase that
>would have been commonly used in 1958) and considering
>a limited selection, they wind up going to
>Vertigo. After the movie, one of the girls
>comments, "It wasn't too bad, but I don't know if I
>liked it." (I was surprised to learn that on some
>lists that the 1957 Vertigo has recently
>outplaced Citizen Kane as the best movie of all
>time. Thanks again, Google!)
>
>But anyway, in the story the four kids have fun, and
>go on to other things. After all, going on a date on a
>Friday beats hanging around a dorm room, especially
>when the dorm room is devoid of some of the things
>some college kids would consider essentials today:
>things like microwaves, refrigerators, portable TVs,
>video games, computers, and members of the opposite
>sex.
>
>They might have gone down to the dorm lounge to watch
>TV (almost certainly black and white) but what would
>they have watched? It's easy to come up with the names
>and some details of popular shows like Dragnet
>
(All I want are the facts, Ma'am.) but sometimes
>even Google isn't a big help in telling me what night
>the show was on back then, so I had to be a little
>fuzzy about it.
>
>During the story one of the kids buys a used Triumph
>roadster, an English sports car. But was it a TR-2 or
>a TR-3? Good question on that one too, but thanks to
>Wikipedia, I decided it was a TR-2. Another of the
>kids drives a '53 Nash Statesman -- not a first choice
>for a college car, but he got it from his dad for the
>right price (which is to say free), so he doesn't have
>much room for complaint. But was it a six or a V-8?
>Turns out Nash wasn't making V-8s in that era; I'd
>thought they were. The parents of one of the girls
>drives a DeSoto. I already knew that was a V-8, but
>that point wasn't necessary for the story.
>
>The following summer, one of the girls in the story
>likes to wear one-piece playsuits. That helped place
>the story in time; I don't think I've seen a one-piece
>playsuit on a female older than about five in decades,
>although they were once popular for girls of the right
>age group. In my day girls were required to wear them
>in gym class. They were actually kind of cute,
>although I doubt you'll find many girls from my high
>school class who would agree with me. Of course, I had
>to do some research on that, (again, thanks Google!)
>to find out that they're considered retro these days,
>but they may be regaining popularity.
>
>1958 was a long time ago -- I was ten -- and my memory
>of those days isn't very clear, so it was nice to be
>able to go back and research those things online. If
>one of those kids in 1958 was researching a story set
>in 1904 (the same distance back) they wouldn't have
>had the internet to help them. But, I'd bet that 1904
>would have seemed as strange to them as 1958 is to us.
[> [> Subject: Re: 1958 friends


Author:
Wes
[ Edit | View ]

Date Posted: 03:36:32 12/11/12 Tue

If the timing had been better I might well have used an Edsel -- but these are kids coming from families who might not have been driving new cars in 1958.

The Edsel had its good points but it proved to be the wrong car at the wrong time.

-- Wes


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