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Date Posted: 16:00:51 05/23/02 Thu
Author: schwabra
Subject: There was no violence at the border crossing
In reply to: Drummond 's message, "The violence of ethnic profiling" on 23:42:01 05/22/02 Wed

Suspicion after the fact always seems bad to those caught up in it. The story relates "half an hour gone," I have conducted longer interviews with people, for a lot less than a border crossing.

He admits that he fits the profile of the imagined terrorist. Therefore he should understand the havoc caused by others fitting that same desciption.

I believe there is more of his own sensabilities being alert to his treatment, than there was actual mistreatment.

You must ask yourself, if you were a border patrol person trying to do your job, would you have acted in the same way? If he fits the profile of a terrorist, you probably would, or you should lose your job.

One half hour is not a lot of time, questions are not the problem. I have been searched crossing the border a few times. My car pulled to the side too. I do not fit the profile, and this was before Sept 11th. Was I singaled out? No. Was he. Probably not any more than others that are searched.

I am reminded of a friend that is a border agent. He is in charge of random searches at his post. With all the issues today, he can be accused of something at almost each search. I do not get upset over peope claiming they were singled out. I do get upset when people accuse people of doing it when there is nothing out of the ordinary in the stop.

Sorry, suspected drug dealers are not treated any better.

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Replies:

I am with you one this one... -- shauna, 18:36:38 05/23/02 Thu
- Do these things happen? -- Drummond, 22:15:03 05/23/02 Thu
  - tis true... -- shauna, 10:03:47 05/24/02 Fri
    - How else are we to search? -- schwabra, 14:03:46 05/24/02 Fri
      - But how do you decide whom to stop? -- Drummond, 16:13:04 05/24/02 Fri
        Here is the misunderstanding -- schwabra, 19:45:29 05/24/02 Fri
        That's comforting? -- Drummond, 12:44:38 05/25/02 Sat
        He said they had "their hands on their guns" -- schwabra, 18:41:10 05/25/02 Sat
        You're right -- Drummond, 02:19:09 05/26/02 Sun
        You are right too -- schwabra, 09:21:07 05/26/02 Sun
        Then a suggestion -- Drummond, 11:18:47 05/26/02 Sun
        Sounds good -- schwabra, 19:21:31 05/26/02 Sun
        Well, then at least afterwards -- Drummond, 02:19:02 05/27/02 Mon
        That is always my goal -- schwabra, 08:25:22 05/27/02 Mon
        Well, I know that polite behavior is part of the training -- Drummond, 14:20:38 05/27/02 Mon
Drug dealers are profiled on something besides the color of their skin -- Drummond, 22:08:40 05/23/02 Thu