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Subject: Paradise Club Constitution Author: Dave [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 06:29:46 12/02/04 Thu With the help of a couple of members I now have copies of the original Paradise Club Constitution of 1991 and the constitution issued by CLC to new members following the CLC takeover. Surprise surprise, the 2 documents are exactly the same, with the CLC "version" still dated 1991 and enclosing a 1996 Special Notice regarding payment of fees, which gives the committee or management company no more power that to consider a "substantial breach" of club rules, if a member has not paid the management fees within 60-90 days of being notified that fees are overdue. This is good news, because it means that by their actions ( issuing original constitution with CLC cover) CLC have accepted the original constitution. Accordingly their threat to impose a 25% surcharge if fees are not paid by 31st December, has no legal standing, as some members have stated in other postings. I will be studying the constitution in more detail, having already noted with some pleasure that 10% of the membership can demand a special general meeting, with a view to removing CLC from the position of management company. I feel that we must now make it clear to CLC that we will no longer tolerate their behaviour towards fixed weeks "owners" and the imposition of totally unreasonable fees. The question is; how do we get 10% of members to agree to take such action as the constitution allows. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: Paradise Club Constitution Author: splot [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 07:01:35 12/02/04 Thu Well said Dave. I think we have four options: 1> Ask CLC for a list of owners - not likely but still worth a try. 2> Ask CLC for details of the committee reps details - then contact them for support 3> Ask on this website for members to write to CLC for a special meeting or collect names and then submit to CLC 4> Use the www.clcmembers.co.uk website for the same thing Splot

[> Subject: Re: Paradise Club Constitution Author: ray [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:00:07 12/02/04 Thu Dave You've come to the same conclusion as me about CLC's bullying tactics. As I said in my reply (12/11/04) to one of your earlier posts, CLC are making it up as they go along. My membership of CLC fixed weeks dates from July 2003 and they sent me the original constitution with their own cover on. No surcharges mentioned and the only penalty being loss of use of the apartment UNTIL the maintenance charge is paid. Not permanent confiscation. I agree with the opinions of a number of other members that CLC are trying to squeeze out fixed week owners and have CLC Points only resorts. The worst thing that can happen is for owners to just give up their weeks. CLC win hands down. Not a happy situation. Ray

[> Subject: Re: Paradise Club Constitution Author: t_biggeruk [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 23:42:50 12/02/04 Thu is it not now in our intrest to try and stop these owners walking away now that this information has emerged. i am not a rich man but i would try one more year if i thought something could be done. if we are being ripped off i think we should have our say before we walk away

[> [> Subject: Re: Paradise Club Constitution Author: DavidH [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 02:24:00 12/05/04 Sun I too intend to give it one more year in the hope that something can be done or at least started to protect the interests of our holiday investment. It's not a case of 'if', we ARE being ripped-off and what's worse the rest of the industry is standing watching it. If there is no protection against this type of extortion, then walking away might be the only ‘safe-haven’ there is. The CLC members, (http://clcmembers.co.uk) site has recently run an opinion poll on deliberately making 'Late Payments' as a protest. I don’t know whether it would be considered correct to e-mail all ‘Paradise Club’ owners to form an official petition?

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Paradise Club Constitution Author: Allan [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:29:22 12/05/04 Sun We are in the same position. One more year and then goodbye if things persist. I fear they will as CLC are obviously out to get rid of weeks owners as cheaply as possible. There must be some action taken soon though otherwise 2006 will be upon us before we know it. Has anyone the knowledge on how to go about initiating a vote of no confidence in the committee for a start? Once the minutes of the AGM are published, how about organising a series of letters to our voted representatives who seem to be invisible as far as this board is concerned?

[> Subject: Re: Paradise Club Constitution Author: Roger Bridge [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:31:15 12/18/04 Sat >With the help of a couple of members I now have copies >of the original Paradise Club Constitution of 1991 and >the constitution issued by CLC to new members >following the CLC takeover. > >Surprise surprise, the 2 documents are exactly the >same, with the CLC "version" still dated 1991 and >enclosing a 1996 Special Notice regarding payment of >fees, which gives the committee or management company >no more power that to consider a "substantial breach" >of club rules, if a member has not paid the management >fees within 60-90 days of being notified that fees are >overdue. > >This is good news, because it means that by their >actions ( issuing original constitution with CLC >cover) CLC have accepted the original constitution. >Accordingly their threat to impose a 25% surcharge if >fees are not paid by 31st December, has no legal >standing, as some members have stated in other >postings. > >I will be studying the constitution in more detail, >having already noted with some pleasure that 10% of >the membership can demand a special general meeting, >with a view to removing CLC from the position of >management company. > >I feel that we must now make it clear to CLC that we >will no longer tolerate their behaviour towards fixed >weeks "owners" and the imposition of totally >unreasonable fees. The question is; how do we get 10% >of members to agree to take such action as the >constitution allows. Any more ideas of how to get enough memebers to agree to action? We all probably know another owner, who knows anaother owner, who knows another owner.....

[> Subject: Re: Paradise Club Constitution Author: JJ [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:15:41 12/18/04 Sat Roger, I am sure we all know a few other owners, but if they dont know about the web site then they can't fill in the membership form. As I have stated previously there must be many owners that look at the web site and this forum, but do not fill in the membership form ( have you Roger ?? )Do you know and have you contact with 5 other owners who would in turn know 5 other owners etc. That is the only way you can gather the names of owners. I have been an owner for 10 years and feel that we need to make our views known to CLC and the Owners reps, but in large numbers. So the answer is spread the word about the web site, send the URL http://www.timeshare-exchangers-direct.co.uk/poc.html to all the other owners you know, and ask them in turn to send it to the owners they know. Put the URL on other web site's or forum's you know of and when at the Paradise Club talk to other owners. But most of all tell people to fill in the membership form. At this point I would like to thank the admin and the other owners for the web site, at least it give's us the opportunity to talk to one another, and talk we must.

[> [> Subject: Re: Paradise Club Constitution Author: R.B [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:25:57 12/21/04 Tue >Roger, >I am sure we all know a few other owners, but if they >dont know about the web site then they can't fill in >the membership form. >As I have stated previously there must be many owners >that look at the web site and this forum, but do not >fill in the membership form ( have you Roger ?? )Do >you know and have you contact with 5 other owners who >would in turn know 5 other owners etc. >That is the only way you can gather the names of >owners. >I have been an owner for 10 years and feel that we >need to make our views known to CLC and the Owners >reps, but in large numbers. >So the answer is spread the word about the web site, >send the URL >http://www.timeshare-exchangers-direct.co.uk/poc.html > to all the other owners you know, and ask them in >turn to send it to the owners they know. >Put the URL on other web site's or forum's you know of >and when at the Paradise Club talk to other owners. >But most of all tell people to fill in the membership >form. >At this point I would like to thank the admin and the >other owners for the web site, at least it give's us >the opportunity to talk to one another, and talk we >must. JJ. I have filled in a membership form for both of my weeks.