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Subject: Re: New poll (Nebula v Nebulon)


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The Divine Shadow
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Date Posted: 02:07:58 10/18/02 Fri
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In reply to: Warspite 's message, "Re: New poll (Nebula v Nebulon)" on 09:53:19 10/17/02 Thu

>The manouverability is impressive I agree, and against
>STL computers or humans reflexes it would be a major
>advantage. But we know that in Trek systems, the
>tactical officer normally nominates the target and the
>computer calculates everything else.

We have never seen or heard that Star Wars computers are STL, the Communications core for a Coruscanttransmision relay (seen in one of the X-wings books) has computaional powers and speed that is, in all likly hood, far superior the computers on Andromeda and atleast as good as the computers on an early Picard era Federation science vessel.

>> A TL shot with a minimum yield of 200 gt would de-shield
>>and sublimate a shuttle, perigrin, or runnabout in 1
>>shot aswell.

Here is a quate from a more canon source (the book "Slave Ship")
"the laser cannons being mounted into the open skeletal frames required bracing and recoil-dissipation casings that would have withstood explosions measured in the giga-tonnage range. Anything less, and a single shot fired in battle would rip a destroyer or battle cruiser in two, a victim of its own lethal strength".

A good interpretation of this would be to just shoot a gun (which I have done, many a time) there is recoil with a pistol, more with a sub-machine gun, more than that with an assault rifle, and the most ( in terms of small arms) with a long range rifle, these can hurt after three or four shots until you get used to them. How is this relevent? recoil is related to output. The recoil of the modern Turbolaser on a modern battle-cruiser or Destroyer, without proper bracing and disipating would rip a the ship in two (through giga-tons of energy). Recoil is less than output, so the guns must fire giga-tons range plasma shots have giga-tons range recoil. Insidentely the man veiwing this is Kuat of Kuat, the owner of the biggest, best, and most succesful shipyards in all of history, Kuat Drive Yards, so he would know what he was watching, and why it worked that way.

>So now the 'minimum' firepower of a turbolaser is
>200GT? This is what I was saying in the post on
>Spacebattles recently, when I complained that a single
>quote from a single book was being placed above all
>the films and other books. You do realise that level
>of firepower is never shown anywhere in the films. All
>the evidence from the books and films points to MUCH
>lower yield numbers. 200GT is only stated once in one
>book, and even there (ICS) it is very vague as to
>whether it relates to one weapon or the entire
>broadside.

given that the other weapons yeilds in the book refered to individual weapons, I would assume that it is the same with the Aclimator.

>As for the whole 'subliminating' argument, I think you
>are wrong. We have seen at least a couple of examples
>where phasers have punched through a target and
>continued. The first would be TNG:Q Who against the
>Borg cube and the second in TNG:All good things
>against a Negh'Var.

But, for the most part this doesn't happen?

>However, phasers generally do not work in the same way
>as turbolasers. Generally we have seen that phasers
>transmit their energy into the targets structure, and
>then spread out through it, but do not continue on
>into nearby structures. We see a very good example of
>that in TNG:Ensigns of Command, where Data vaporises
>all the water in an aquaduct, without damaging the
>aquaduct itself. Therefore, a phaser would not
>necessarily blow out the other side, since all the
>energy would be sent into the target. This actually
>makes it much more efficient than a turbolaser.

this is not always a good thing. The reason for the power of Star Wars weapons and the manner in which they deal damage is that Imperail Armor posses great density, very high specific heat, and high energy reflectivity. The more the energy is focussed and lower the area of effect, the more chance that the shot will do decent damage.

>>FTL is possible, but not advisable. The targetting
>>problems would be huge, like trying to shoot a quarter
>>with a .50 calibre machine gun from a Blackbird at
>>mach 3. And the probibility of hitting one or more of
>>the TIE Defenders would stop any other than Tom Paris
>>or Han Solo from attempting to do it, as even glancing
>>impact rip both to sub-atomic particles.
>
>Don't get me wrong, I am not suggesting that they
>could fight at warp inside the nebula, just that warp
>speed is possible. It would be useful for escaping a
>poor position, or avoiding missiles etc.

And then they would take a great deal of time to reposition.

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