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Date Posted: 14:44:12 01/27/03 Mon
Author: tamarisk
Subject: Sola

Here is the other side of the message most of the Neo-Evangelicals won't preach today. It is important to teach and preach both sides of the message. I cannot say if Randall Terry is RCC or not. I do not know. What I do not believe is because someone is fighting a fight, they are necessarily fighting a godly fight, or are saved.

I can only imagine Dave Hunt would be censured by many true, Fundamental Churches. I have heard pastors speak out against him because of his Neo-Evangelicalism by entering into Calvary Chapels, etc.

There is a great, biblical difference between being a coward, one that won't fight the good fight of faith by using G_d given gifts and Biblical Avoidance. Biblical Avoidance is that which you avoid situations, not because you are a coward, but because you have a temporary lack of resources needed to fight the fight.

1 Sam 26:7-11
7 So David and Abishai came to the people by night: and, behold, Saul lay sleeping within the trench, and his spear stuck in the ground at his bolster: but Abner and the people lay round about him.
8 Then said Abishai to David, God hath delivered thine enemy into thine hand this day: now therefore let me smite him, I pray thee, with the spear even to the earth at once, and I will not smite him the second time.
9 And David said to Abishai, Destroy him not: for who can stretch forth his hand against the LORD's anointed, and be guiltless?
10 David said furthermore, As the LORD liveth, the LORD shall smite him; or his day shall come to die; or he shall descend into battle, and perish.
11 The LORD forbid that I should stretch forth mine hand against the LORD's anointed: but, I pray thee, take thou now the spear that is at his bolster, and the cruse of water, and let us go.
(KJV)

David choose to listen here to the Lord, and not Abishai. David further stated that Saul's punishment would come from G_d. The people I have the pleasure to know, calling themselves Christian Activists, are some of them most G_d,peace, and country loving yule find. I doubt yule find Dave Hunt giving up all he has for preaching against bad government. I can only imagine Hunt would cry like a baby if the goobermint took his 501 c 3 away from him.

I King 18:1-4
1 And it came to pass after many days, that the word of the LORD came to Elijah in the third year, saying, Go, shew thyself unto Ahab; and I will send rain upon the earth.
2 And Elijah went to shew himself unto Ahab. And there was a sore famine in Samaria.
3 And Ahab called Obadiah, which was the governor of his house. (Now Obadiah feared the LORD greatly:
4 For it was so, when Jezebel cut off the prophets of the LORD, that Obadiah took an hundred prophets, and hid them by fifty in a cave, and fed them with bread and water.)
(KJV)

What we have here is the continuing saga of Bill and Hillary Clinton. It happens in churches as well as governments. Those real hero's of the faith today, those preaching out against bad government don't have to hid in caves. At least, not for today. There has, however, a number of these men thrown in prison because of the truth. They've had their churches and property taken away because of the fight. Some are even dead because of their stance for the Truth. A position, or fight is one because you believe the cause is just. You believe you have to tools to fight that fight.

If we all fought fights based on feelings, we would have lost our freedoms long ago. The brave people would have never confronted the king. Those brave colonists would not have fought and we'd be reading in history books today, about the brave British soldiers killing George Washington, etc., for treason. For over two years, I stood out front of the execution chambers on "blood alley," on Shaker Blvd, in Cleveland, Ohio. I can testify, that each day I drive up to the clinic, I got a pain in my stomach. I had thoughts on some days I should just drive on by; do something else with my Saturday. But, I would park, get out of the car each time and start preaching the Word of G_d to those going into the killing centers. Why? Because I'm a nice guy? NO! Because I had been given the desire and the tools to preach the truth, by and of G_d.

More "acts" of Avoidance.

Acts 9:23-31
23 And after that many days were fulfilled, the Jews took counsel to kill him:
24 But their laying await was known of Saul. And they watched the gates day and night to kill him.
25 Then the disciples took him by night, and let him down by the wall in a basket.
26 And when Saul was come to Jerusalem, he assayed to join himself to the disciples: but they were all afraid of him, and believed not that he was a disciple.
27 But Barnabas took him, and brought him to the apostles, and declared unto them how he had seen the Lord in the way, and that he had spoken to him, and how he had preached boldly at Damascus in the name of Jesus.
28 And he was with them coming in and going out at Jerusalem.
29 And he spake boldly in the name of the Lord Jesus, and disputed against the Grecians: but they went about to slay him.
30 Which when the brethren knew, they brought him down to Caesarea, and sent him forth to Tarsus.
31 Then had the churches rest throughout all Judaea and Galilee and Samaria, and were edified; and walking in the fear of the Lord, and in the comfort of the Holy Ghost, were multiplied.
(KJV)

This is Sh'aul's commentary to the above verses.

2 Cor 11:32-33
32 In Damascus the governor under Aretas the king kept the city of the Damascenes with a garrison, desirous to apprehend me:
33 And through a window in a basket was I let down by the wall, and escaped his hands.
(KJV)

It is interesting because this separates two thoughts with a solomn oath in v. 31. This was Sh'aul's first time he had to "avoid" a particular situation he could not win, that day, and lived to fight another day.

2 Cor 11:21-29
21 I speak as concerning reproach, as though we had been weak. Howbeit whereinsoever any is bold, (I speak foolishly,) I am bold also.
22 Are they Hebrews? so am I. Are they Israelites? so am I. Are they the seed of Abraham? so am I.
23 Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I am more; in labours more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft.
24 Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one.
25 Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep;
26 In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren;
27 In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness.
28 Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon me daily, the care of all the churches.
29 Who is weak, and I am not weak? who is offended, and I burn not?
(KJV)

It is interesting here because there is another division in chapter 11. It tells of the difference between the false teachers and apostles doing "their works" for "their father," the debil. Sh'aul is not saying his glorying is speaking "after the Lord." Here, in verses 20-29, Sh'aul gives his "glorying" "at the hands of men."

There are those "men" in churches and ministries wishing to place the One, True Church of the Lord, into bondage. In fact, many ARE in bondage today in AmeriKa. Are those things which befell Sh'aul, the result of activism, or hiding behind the goobermint through tax exempt status?

The next few weeks in AmeriKa will be interesting. The war in Iraq WILL bring about terror and biological attacks here. The majority of the institution called the Christian Church will roll up their sleeves and take their anthrax and smallpox injections, taking national ID cards, etc. They will gladly give up their G_d given rights to the NWO goobermint under the guise of a false interpretation of Romans 13.

True, Biblical Avoidance is still "Christian Activism." Y'shua taught His talmidim; His disciples the results of their "Activism." It was taught in many places but John 15 and 16 comes to mind. Y'shua didn't call His disciples servants, but friends. He made known the truth to His own out of friendship, not because they were servants. Most people "serve" their employer because of their paycheck. They may or may not be friends with their employer. I spoke, and continue to speak the truth about my former employer, not because of the cost or what it personally cost me, but because the truth is what it is.

John 16:1-4

1 These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended.
2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
3 And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.
4 But these things have I told you, that when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. And these things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you.
(KJV)

I will be writing Dave Hunt to take me off his mailing list.

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Tamarisk -- Sola, 16:14:18 01/27/03 Mon
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