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Exposure of Military Personnel To Chemicals
Hazardous Exposure To Malathion & Other Chemicals.
Dog Handlers & other military personnel exposed while stationed in South-East Asia and other tropical areas. "In humans, symptoms of acute (short-time) exposure to malathion may include the following: headache, dizziness, nausea, abdominal cramps, blurred vision, muscle twitching, respiratory depression, and slow heartbeat. If exposure to malathion occurs in very high doses it may result in unconsciousness, convulsions or even death. Long-term exposure may result in damage to the nerves leading to poor coordination in arms and legs. Malathion affects the central nervous system, immune system, adrenal glands, liver, and blood." The VA has acknowledged that spraying occurred outside of Viet Nam and will accept properly documented claims. Thailand veterans are winning VA appeals. Be determined, and file an appeal, if you are turned down. NOTE: BOLD & UNDERLINED names are email links to authors of entries.
Chemical Exposure Information

Subject: base defense in thailand


Author:
wayne
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Date Posted: 14:34:49 04/10/09 Fri

Agent Orange was used in Thailand, this report show where AO was used. I used this report in appeal to Board of Veterans Appealin December 2008. Now My agent orange appeal is with the appeal court for Veterans claims in D. C. Have a attorney to fight this claim for me in the appeals court.

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Subject: TAURA KING'S RESEARCH AND TVVET UPDATE


Author:
MARILYN OLIVER
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Date Posted: 23:09:31 05/08/05 Sun

I AM COMING TO YOU TODAY, WITH EXCITING UPDATES. BOTH
TAURA KING'S GROUP AND THE TVVET GROUP, HAVE ADVANCED
OUR CAUSE. IT IS SUCH WONDERFUL NEWS, FOR ALL OF US.


I WILL BE SENDING UPDATES FROM DAVID ADAMS AND ALSO
TAURA KING. THIS WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA, WHERE WE
STAND, AT THIS POINT.

EVERYONE INVOLVED, WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR
YOUR HELP. WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT, WE WOULD NOT BE HERE
AT THIS TIME. REMEMBER THIS IS NOT FOR US, BUT FOR
ALL OF YOU. WE HAVE BEEN HONORED TO DO THIS.

Author: Taura
I am trying to document all the locations our veterans
witnessed Air America at in Thailand--please contact
me if you have any knowledge on this subject.
Am working to shore up a few week points in the
research project and this is one of them--I have them
currently located in three places let me hear from
you. Thanks to all your efforts this project is
nearing it's completion and the new info collected
will be submitted to officials in the near
future--some of the evidence was submitted 2 months
ago additional evidence was added recently and this is
another request I have recieved from officials which
they want your in put on. Your statements make a
diference believe me--I have done this long enough to
know the power in the veterans testimonies--have no
doubt there are those listening. Taura


Author: Taura
Hi everyone--It has come time to announce the release
of our cd containing the Thailand evidence. Agent
Pinki and Green dating back to 1953--1964 and other
documents showing herbicides in Thailand up to 67.
I want to Thank Marilyn--she has helped to get the
info scanned and on to a cd. I will be looking it over
and adding additional info to the cd that has not been
added as of yet. I am in hopes I will be done with the
cd in the next two weeks.

For those of you with additional evidence that you
believe could be of help to others which you would
like to see added to the cd feel free to forward it
and I will download it onto the cd. It currently has a
collection of compelling gov. documents.

I would be interested in any soil reports or findings
relating to the environment.

I also want to thank all the veterans for having
helped in this collection of info, my two buddies, Sue
and Ginny who have worked night and day with me on
several veterans projects with unreal devotion to our
veterans and their needs. Marilynn took on the job of
scanning inorder that I could scan other projects of
equal concern.

All of you need to know that VA now has info and
conceedes that herbicides were present in 64-65--but
that is not enough for me nor for you--we are looking
to get this expanded and officially added to the law.

Taura tdk4vets@cwnet.com



TVVET

Six months ago at a veteran's reunion three men and
myself decided to pursue the issue of the use of Agent
Orange in Thailand. On of the first things we did was
post a survey on the internet in hopes of reaching
those who have been effected by Agent Orange, remember
seeing defoliants used, or have specific evidence or
other compelling information. The response we received
was very positive. Some of the surveys were extremely
informative, others led us to different information
and other people. Many were heart breaking. We want to
thank all of you for your contribution to this effort,
and give you an update as to what happened with the
information you sent us.

We completed a 150 page report that includes
documentation of Agent Orange testing in Thailand and
eyewitness testimonies from the surveys. Also Air
Force documents clearly referencing Operation Ranch
Hand missions being flown from at least 3 of the seven
air bases (NKP, Udorn, and Takhli).

There was one other area of evidence that may prove to
the "smoking gun," and one we did not broadcast openly
out of concern that the information could disappear.
There were more than 500 Air Force Sentry and Patrol
dogs deployed to Thailand. They began arriving in
1968, and all but perhaps a dozen were destroyed in
the period of 1975-1976 when the U.S. let Thailand
after the fall of Saigon. As any dog handler from that
era knows, all dogs are given a necropsy (autopsy)
when they die regardless of the cause of death.
Everyone of those dogs that were destroyed were given
a very detailed necropsy. The purpose of the necropsy
is to have scientific information on the effects the
dog food, weather, parasites, and environment had on
the dogs. Those reports, which include studies of
fluid and tissue samples, still exist on microfilm. We
have asked Congress to conduct a study of those
necropsies, just as the necropsy reports on the dogs
that were in Vietnam were studied. We believe if
herbicides with dioxins were used on bases in Thailand
there will be evidence of it through the report of the
health conditions of those dogs at the point of their
death. After all, it was the perimeter of the bases
that were defoliated. and that is where the dogs and
their handlers worked.

On April 30, 2005, the thirth anniversary of the end
of the war in Vietnam, we officially rolled the report
out and submitted it to the office of Congressman Lane
Evans, the Ranking member of the U.S. House of
Representatives Committee on Veterans Affairs.

A word on the report, the file size is nearly 8,000 KB
and for that reason is not emailable. We are going to
try and find location on the internet where the report
can be posted for reading and/or downloading.As soon
as know if this is going to be feasible or not we will
let you know and where to find it.

A WORD ON THE SURVEYS We could not use every survey in
the report, so we established a method of selecting
the ones used.
The prioritizing was as follows:

1) Testimonies that confirmed or were consistent
with other testimonies that were received from
veterans who served on different bases at
different times

2) Testimonies that matched Government
Documentation that we received

3) Testimonies that included seeing Agent Orange
barrels and or spraying it.

4) Testimonies that cited very detailed
information such as dates, squadron #s, descriptions
of what the dead ground cover was like to walk on

We removed the home address, phone numbers, and email
addresses on every testimony that was used.

Please understand that if your testimony/survey was
not used in the report it does not mean it did not
have value. Every survey we received back contributed
to this effort. Some pointed us in directions we never
thought of going to. We want you to be assured that
your efforts were not a waste of your time. All of
them made a valuable contribution.


Thank you so much,

David F. Adams
TVVET


I WOULD LIKE TO THANK, DAVID ADAMS, BILL CUMMINGS,
JOHN HOMA AND MONTY MOORE, FOR ALLOWING ME THE HONOR
TO WORK WITH THEM, AS PART OF THE TVVET GROUP.

THANK YOU'S, ALSO GO OUT TO TAURA KING, SUE AND GINNY,
FOR ASKING ME TO HELP WITH THEIR PROJECT. I AM VERY
HONORED LADIES.

I WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP ALL OF YOU UPDATED, TO ANY
FURTHER DETAILS.

BLESSINGS MARILYN OLIVER

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Subject: the use of Agent Orange in Nam Phong


Author:
Marcus Knowlden
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Date Posted: 20:16:08 08/21/09 Fri

In May 1972 a small group of Marines from Iwakuni, Japan were sent on a mission known as "Task Force Delta". We didn't really know much about the mission that was ahead of us. We were told it was in support of Operation Rolling Thunder and the Operation we were involved in was called Operation Linebacker. We couldn't tell family or friends anything about it. We arrived in May 1972 at what was known as MCAS Rose Garden, which was a Royal Thai Air Force base in Nam Phong Thailand. I was with the MABS-15 SATS 7011 crew living right beside the runway in a large tent. A year earlier the Army Corps of Engineers had constructed the concrete runway. I am certain that the government had used Agent Orange to clear the jungle foliage in preparation for this construction.

You could see that the foliage that was remaining had been sprayed and looked pretty sick.

It was ungodly hot and taking my turn laying AM-2 matting. We worked night shifts because of the heat. We worked with the Seabees setting up the flight lines and some adjoining taxi ways.

When we arrived, we didn't have the luxuries of home (hot shower, hot food, bathroom). Water was rationed and we weren't allowed to use it for showers. Our showers came from the afternoon monsoon rain as it fell from the skies. Yeah that runway was populated with naked marines with their soap nnd shampoo in hand.

Our main job was Short Airfield for Tactical Support. SATS. We would catch aircraft after landing on the runway after it grabbed the arresting gear with its hook. Subsequently we were required to install, maintain, and operate the M-21 Arresting Gear installations at both ends of the runways and at mid-field.

There was nothing there when he arrived except a field tower and two make-shift maintenance shops to provide ATC Support, and limited maintenance for the landing c-141 Tri-Star and C-5A Galaxy aircraft that we landed in. As soon as we had laid out the aluminum matting flight line we started recieving C130 Hercules Cargo and Refueler Planes. Within a week we had a TAFDS Fuel farm going and the Phantoms, Intruders and Skyhawks were flying in and Setting up for business. Oh yeah, Air America was flying in and out daily even before the Squadrons arrived.

To make a long story short. I began filing a claim for PTSD three and a half years ago. In the process I have been diagnosed with Diabetes Mellitus Type II, and I believe I have neuropathy in my feet. I have been requested by the VA to provide evidence of exposure from Agent Orange for my claim.

I could use any assistance from Nam Phong Vets that could help me verify that Agent Orange was definitely used as I suspect and have been told.

A US Marines Veteran friend of mine Randy Ikari recently died, that could have been of assistance to me, as he told me prior to his death that his cancer was caused by Agent Orange exposure a year before I arrived when he was providing Security with the Marines while the Army corps of engineers was building the Concrete Runway and Taxiways there.

I do remember eating my C-Rations on a row of barrells that did contain Agent Orange at one time while I was in Nam Phong's US Marine Air Base.

Yeah I know they called it RTAFB Nam Phong, Thailand but lets just tell the truth. The only aircraft I ever saw flown by the Thais were T-28 trainers that would touch n go every day a couple times. That was a US Marine Air Base pure n simple that just happened to be located in Thailand.

Like every thing else they told us, they lie, they lie they lie. I seen a clipping one of my friends family sent to him that said there was 5000 Airmen on that base, but then, I never saw them either. Just US Marines, and US Navy Pilots, arf arf arf, go devildogs. hahahha.

OK Nuff gung ho sap. Any help? I sure would appreciate any documentation or corroboration on the use of Agent Orange in this location.

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Subject: Claims for Herbicides in Thailand


Author:
Kurt Priessman
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Date Posted: 19:01:33 04/05/09 Sun

Just to let you know, we have had great success for security police and dog handlers getting compensated for exposure to herbicides in Thailand with DEROS between 1970 - 1974. So far we have 3 from U-Tapao, 2 from NKP, 1 from Korat, 1 from Udorn, and 1 from Ubon.

We have quite a few working including 3 more from NKP, 3 from Korat, 2 from Ubon, 1 from Udorn, and another from U-Tapao. Additionally, some are getting PTSD from the attacks there. Earlier tours (pre-1969) are not being approved, and unfortunately, I have nothing about Tahkli.

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Subject: Re: Agent Orange and Brain Cancer


Author:
kaye steger
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Date Posted: 20:17:48 06/13/09 Sat

My husband died from a cancerous brain tumor in 2004. He crawled through agent orange in Vietnam.....I also fought the va regarding this and got nowhere. It wasn't on the "list". I will keep fighting as we always thought it was caused from ageant orange. I would like to hear from others. kaye

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Subject: 8Th SPS jul 72-jul 73


Author:
Don Chapman (Hurting)
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Date Posted: 16:46:46 03/30/09 Mon

I was stationed at Ubon RTAFB from Jul 72 to Jul 73 My unit was the 8th Security Police Squadron. The things that I've read today 30 Mar 09 sure do ring a bell. Remember the heavy smell in and around the Huts where we tried to get some rest. Worked days and nights while I was there. I worked with a Thai local national named Lek, Setting up slap flares with wire taught against the Constantina which would set off the Flares. The primeter was littered in broken whiskey bottles from the the officers and NCO clubs. The odor was heavy and gave me headaches. Now I have issues with lungs, arthritus, rubbery feeling hands legs and feet. Terrible issues with my feet. ended up doing 20 years in the military and having issues getting help.

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Subject: Agent Orange, it never gets better!


Author:
Robert J. Perro Sr.
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Date Posted: 00:32:03 06/23/08 Mon

I was stationed at Phu Cat Airbase in Vietnam from 1/15/69 t1/15/70. I was in the hospital at Phu Cat for over a month because my body swelled up so much with puss and blood I could not wear clothes. This continued for years after I did file a VA claim. After 32 years, 2002 I was finally awarded my disability claim at 100%.

All I can say is never give up, if you have been exposed and need treatment, you deserve it. I have helped many Vets with their claims since I was awarded my disability. I now have charcot an effect of OA and diabetes that soften the bones and causes them to break or collapse. I now wear a brace on my left side from my foot to my knee every day and may have to wear it for life. So please if you have been exposed get tested.

With all due respect,

Bob Perro

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Subject: Agent orange...need help!


Author:
Patrick M McCormick (Blessed)
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Date Posted: 19:46:43 02/26/09 Thu

Greetings to all.......I have a question. You guys will love this....the request that is..... My hubby Pat, one of you guys, filed for disability today. Docs say he has melanoma, diabetes II, perinapathy, coronary artery disease , he had Sarcoidosis when he first came home from the service, first said it was hodgkins disease. Then we found out that is a starting point for this disease process. It travels to other organs......and can cause other issues....anyway Pat needs to know what the name of the base was in Vietnam that they stopped at on their way to Thailand? The VA rep said if he had something to vouch for that........that will help his case!!!! so I am sending out an SOS ....does anybody????? remember that flight pattern????? Pat was stationed at NKP...1971-72 Please email me at debbiemcco@gmail.com or I will just check back here. I will print whatever you send me......and hope this will be enough!!!!! Thanks so much guys and you are truly a great bunch of people! God bless all of you! and thank you for serving our wonderful country!!!!! and it is wonderful with all of its issues......it is still the best!!!

Debbie

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Subject: Re: Korat Air Base '64 and '65


Author:
William Malloy
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Date Posted: 10:13:24 01/24/09 Sat

I was at Korat several times between 1964 and 1967. Type 2 diabetes is my complication. VA is challenging my contention that AO was sprayed next to the runway at "Camp Nasty". Any photos would be greatly appreciated. I can attest that the jungle next to the runway had been cleared by herbicides. Since I saw c123's (UC123) flying around the area (primary AO spray craft), the only logical conclusion is that AO was the defoliant used.

Thanks for any help!



>>can you please send me a copy of the pictures of what
>you have on agent orange and writeup abount it being
>dis spoused in korat thailand needing proof to help
>me out i was stationed in korat thailand camp friend
>and was in the 31st field hospital need buddies
>letters they say they lost my records on my medical
>paper my stay in the 31st field hospital at camp
>friendship is where i was at or if any can help me out
>i was in the service from 1965 1972 and was with also
>the hhd 379th siginal bn spt also spent 71/2 years in
>service and this is what they tell me help any of my
>buddies out their james j jeffcoat head nurse of the
>31st field hospital were duffy caint remeber her first
>name but that was her name in the army does anyone
>where i can locate her for a letter she can write for
>me being in the hospital

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Subject: Karot Thailand 1966-67


Author:
Sandy
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Date Posted: 08:21:43 05/26/06 Fri

I am looking for vets who were on the AFB 1966-67. My dad was in the tower and was exposed to agent orange. He is having many health problems - type 2 diabetes, prostate cancer, and immune system shut down. We are trying to get his appeal together and trying to get any information that might be out there. If you have any information please email.

Thanks,
Sandy

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Subject: Thailand 1970-1971


Author:
David P
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Date Posted: 07:12:33 12/30/08 Tue

I was with the fms/squadron at karot AFB Thailand, thru out the whole pcs tour there i was and acft mechanic working the flight line. due to my duties i was working 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, time off base was limited, as the years have past after my retirement in Dec 1988, i have encountered many medical problems from heart attacks to Diabetes II, high blood pressure,. i do believe all this is from the tour in thailand. i have heard from many people through out the years that agent orange were used in vietnam and thailand .

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Subject: KO-KHA Air Statio Thailand


Author:
Robert A King
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Date Posted: 17:50:53 08/12/08 Tue

I took pictures while I was stationed at Ko-Kho Air Station Thailand 1971-72 (15 months). I was in transportation and was there at the transfer of the air station from General Electric to USAF during Cobra Talon. In deed the land was barren and devoid of vegetation.

A few years ago a former USAF service man visited Ko-Kha in 2003 and took pictures. I have his pictures to compare to mine.

I was diagnosed with insulin dependant diabetes in 1988 (37 yr old) and am insulin resistant. I have hypertension and heart dieases, had a heart attack, and a quad-bypass in 2003. I have viterous hemorrages in both eyes, I have neuropathy in both lower legs and both hands. I have arthritis in my spine plus other complicatons. I am 57 years old.

I am interested in help, assistance, or advise to file a claim with the VA.

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Subject: Malathion Use At Udorn


Author:
Charles Richard Long (Information)
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Date Posted: 06:35:25 10/18/08 Sat

reading this with interest, I went through the agent orange testing at the VA but they certainly never mentioned Malathion. I worked in the Entomology(pest Control) shop in the 432CES at Udorn. We used Malathion a good deal. The mosquito spraying was Malathion and then we sprayed a liquid mixture for larva control in the standing water in many places and we sprayed the dog runs at the K-9 kennels for the working dogs very regular. I can't remember now but it was either every week, or every two weeks. I even have and old 8mm of us doing the spraying out there one time. I too have health issues like most of us do and can only wonder if there is a connection with any of the chemicals that I used while doing this work.

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Subject: Phu-mu anyone there 65-67


Author:
Ginny Milgo (no one admits being here)
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Date Posted: 05:01:34 06/06/07 Wed

My husband Chris spent most of his time on the upper base called Phu-mu. They had to truck water, put up the constatina wire, burn the weeds after they hand sprayed them, with the Thai soldiers etc. There was nothing there when he arrived. I have photo's. I also have a photo of a guy climbing up or down the side of that cliff if you are out there and see this contact me. Every time we think we have a person who remembers him or may have even been there they disappear. We know that he was doing things other than his MOS. but there is no record of it anywhere.
We have been fighting this battle since 1999, finally have the his claim at the appeals board in DC. Between it getting lost, not being Flagged etc. We are now waiting for there response. One home has been lost, maybe another.
If anyone was there on Phu-mu. Or remenbers Chris Milgo, or any of these guys he was with PLEASE contact me.
Porter, White, Wessle, Vasquez, Valentine, Jackson, and this man was named Negretti. He apparently and was in wars prior to Viet Nam, and had received a purple heart. Also any Ford Philco guys that may have been there during the dates mentioned above. Also these 2 airmen and CHris were friends, Airmen John Newcome, Robert Mason.
Chris' APO was Campfriendship but was at most of the bases at one point or another. He did 2 tours.
Can't find anything on anyone.
STRATCOM LONG LINE BATTALION
Thank you
Ginny

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Subject: AGENT ORANGE INFO IN KORAT


Author:
JOHN WINTON
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Date Posted: 15:22:13 09/01/08 Mon

REQUESTING INFORMATION REGARDING USE OF AGENT ORANGE IN KORAT THAILAND.

ESPECIALLY INTERESTED TIME FRAME NOVEMBER 1968 THROUGH JUNE 1969.

THANK YOU,

JOHN WINTON

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Subject: renel cell cancer


Author:
richard m mcclellan
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Date Posted: 14:36:37 06/19/08 Thu

I lost a kidney in 2007 due to renel cell cancer I was stationed at Cam rahn bay air base 12 th aps in jan 1966 and Bein Hoa air base from june1966 till jan 1967 3rd aps I like to know if any one has been awarded va diasibllty for this for agent orange exposer

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Subject: AO in Thailand


Author:
Frank Gillern
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Date Posted: 16:16:03 01/28/07 Sun

I was stationed at Camp Cloudy 68/69 The camp was located at coordinates 17 degrees, 8 mins 33.07 secs N Latitude and 103 degrees, 59 mins, 01.81 E longitude.

I remember the nightly "foggings" for mosquitos. I cannot say with certinty that AO was used at the camp. However we had constant troubles with vegetation growing up around the perimiter. We burned it, we cut it. Nothing worked for long. Finally one day it was sprayed from the back of a truck.

Nothing grew there again during my time there.

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