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Subject: Re: The "what category/level debate


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Robin
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Date Posted: 00:33:21 10/22/03 Wed
In reply to: Dave Weston 's message, "The "what category/level debate" on 18:33:00 10/21/03 Tue

>Is it fair for someone to enter the minimum level
>allowed even though they are fairly sure to win?
>
>I would like to kick off with a very strong YES to

certainly NO!

For an experienced open circuit amateur couple coming onto the uni-circuit, the lowest level allowed is novice. Clearly they will win, equally clearly they should dance advanced.

Take an exceptionally good beginners couple. 1st year they win beginners, 2nd year they win novice, 3rd year they win intermediate, that's the logical progression. Then they leave uni, do you really think no couple who starts at uni should do advanced within the first 3 years?


I assume you really refer only to the beginners competition, which is not merely an arbitrary cut-off between levels but has a definite entry requirement "<1 year dance experience by IVDA".

You say:
> They were *clearly* the best beginners (in latin abd ballroom respectively) on the circuit. Now if the
> beginners category isn't designed to find out just that, then exactly what *is* it for?

I contend that the beginners category is there to give newcomers to dancing a less threatening event to start competing in, not primarily to find out who can learn to dance fastest. There is some protection in terms of expenditure (no comp. costumes or fancy routines which need lots of private lessons), and removing the experienced dancers makes sure that beginners are not walked all over...

You consider beginners more of an age-level, similar to having a youth comp, and the best youth will still dance in it. In my view Beginner is simply the lowest level event at IVDC with the added rule that you are required to move up after one year at the latest. IF you can handle higher levels in your first year, by all means do it!

It would have been ridiculous for Scott or Sarah to dance Beginners. What could they have proved by it, after they have made an impression in an advanced competition? And is it really sensible that the standard in a beginners final is higher than that of novice or intermediate events? Should we all tell our beginners to dance novice so that they don't have to compete against the likes of Scott or Sarah?

I think both of them made the very sensible decision that they could play with the "big boys" from the start and were proven right by their results throughout the year.

anyway, maybe i just don't understand as i wasn't allowed to do beginners, due to having done some social dancing before uni...

Robin

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