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Test message for Lance -- butcanuproveit, 01:04:45 05/30/03 Fri
Get the idea Lance? A situation that can to the best of my knowledge only be overcome with continuous diligence.

You may now remove this non-existent post which is only a figment of both or immaginations and relegate it to the outer fringes of cyper space.

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I found out from a friend, that Lance wasn't on line at the time you posted this and I doubt he will be on line today. He's busy helping someone. A 19 yr old girl, a lesbian, from his university's GSA. She called his home phone last night. Her Dad beat her up. Her nose was bleeding maybe broken, her cheek was bruised and cut, her lips were cut and bleeding. She was crying so hard she could barely talk. So she called Lance, the President of her GSA. -- Sergio, 07:26:44 05/30/03 Fri

Oh no. I am so sorry this happened to her. This is making me cry as I type it. If you talk to Lance today, tell him to give her a big hug from me even though she doesn't know me and tell her that all of us care and if there's anything I can do, just let me know. I just keep thinking what it would be like to have your Dad do that to you. Could this happen to me too? {hugs everyone} (NT) -- Jordana, 07:42:59 05/30/03 Fri

aw, baby, don't cry. I'm sure she's safe now and Lance will take care of her. You keep safe and just enjoy Prom tomorrow night. Everything is going to be fine. *hugs you tight* (NT) -- Sergio, 07:50:49 05/30/03 Fri

I'm sure Lance knows this, but after she has her injuries checked out in a hospital, she should go to the Police and file assault charges. No one is allowed to beat up their kid for any reason. She should press charges and have him arrested. (NT) -- Pete, 08:30:42 05/30/03 Fri
Someone straight has been spamming the board (or even worse, someone gay?) I agree with Sergio. Whoever you are, please understand that we're not going to hurt you or anyone else. We're just trying to help gay kids. We just want the same rights as everyone else. (NT) -- Chris, 21:31:12 05/30/03 Fri

I talked to Lance briefly this morning. Here's an update about what happened last night. -- Sergio, 11:37:39 05/30/03 Fri

Jesus, makes you want to hurt someone. I can't fathom for a moment EVER doing that to my kids or ANY kids period. I don't have anything deep to say but if I can help in ANY way call me! -- Kris, 12:16:54 05/30/03 Fri
My God. That asshole should be thrown in jail. I've got tears in my eyes just reading it. Lance, if she needs someone to talk to, if I can help, I'm here. I can also put her in contact with some battered women's support groups, counselors, and women's rights groups if you need the info. (NT) -- Pepper, 15:13:19 05/30/03 Fri

awesome (NT) -- -- :*~*:. .:*~*:. ..:*~*:. . { JASON } . .:*~*:. .:*~*:. :*~*:., 16:42:35 05/31/03 Sat

wow most of the time all i see on line is ever1 in chat rooms on message boards talk talk talk about sex n hookin up n on here peeps talk about stuff that makes me want 2 be a better person i think bout lance bein so gentle, dryin her tears, wipin off the blood n sayin to her you be alright now. ever1 here doin so much stuff to help people i wanna b like the peeps here n help people 2 if i can (NT) -- -- :*~*:. .:*~*:. ..:*~*:. . { JASON } . .:*~*:. .:*~*:. :*~*:., 16:40:58 05/31/03 Sat

I am very concerned about these 9 children. This man has proven himself to be abusive. It's more than likely he abuses his wife and children on a regular basis. Lance, you have mail. (NT) -- Jean, 20:42:43 05/30/03 Fri

I agree with you, Jean. This man is abusive and a danger to his children and his wife doesn't sound any better than he is.. (NT) -- Tiani, 22:54:01 05/30/03 Fri

I'm very sorry that this happened. You're a good person Lance. They're lucky to have someone as caring as you for President. I know you will look out for her and her brother and sister and all the kids in that family. Please give her a hug from me and tell her that they are in my prayers. (NT) -- Chris, 21:37:37 05/30/03 Fri
Important to remember taht not just gay kids go through this. (NT) -- Josie, 10:37:54 05/31/03 Sat
First of all an admission: I made this post!! Yes the Duck - There is a reason that it was done this way - it was part of a test on IP#'s for the purposes of ...... -- <:) duck/ed, 10:18:30 06/01/03 Sun

For Josie and Jeremy -- Sprite, 20:54:15 05/29/03 Thu
I was reading an article about children in a newspaper today, that was discussing how people can have the same gene pool (brothers and sisters) and yet turn out to be so very different. This columnist was describing different types and one of them reminded me of someone Josie dreams about and has been missing...a certain slutty rawk star.

Since you've been missing him girl child, maybe this will keep you happy until he comes rolling in.

Those of you who know him best, read this and tell me if it's not our Lance!
(I will post it in the reply)

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Here's the description. Enjoy it Josie, Jeremy, and everyone else! -- Sprite, 21:08:16 05/29/03 Thu

Hahahahahahaha Yeah that's Lance. He's not " acting" very gay though, I mean they DO dress nice. Haha BUT I always say that the best looking guys are gay so he got that part covered, unfortunately Haha *smooch* (NT) -- Josie, 10:49:47 05/30/03 Fri
rotflmao n here i alway thought lance could do anything lol (NT) -- -- :*~*:. .:*~*:. ..:*~*:. . { JASON } . .:*~*:. .:*~*:. :*~*:., 16:50:23 05/31/03 Sat

I agree. It's very cute. I think a lot of people tend to think of Lance as someone very capable of taking care of business and now we know he's an adorably helpless "man-child" in many ways! LOL! (NT) -- Paul, 17:34:25 05/31/03 Sat

Eric Robert Rudolph captured in North Carolina - article in response. -- E.J., 10:40:16 05/31/03 Sat
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Eric Rudolph, the longtime fugitive charged in the 1996 Olympic Park bombing and in attacks at an abortion clinic and a gay nightclub, was arrested early Saturday in the mountains of North Carolina, a Justice Department official confirmed -- E.J., 10:42:08 05/31/03 Sat

They found him about 45min away from where I live. (NT) -- Mitchell, 13:50:15 05/31/03 Sat

Another article from Foxnews.com -- E.J., 10:46:04 05/31/03 Sat

If you want to read news about gay rights issues -- Pete, 08:55:14 05/30/03 Fri
you don't have to go to gay new's sources anymore. Just check out any fundamentalist or conservative site on the web and you will find their "news" is dominated with stories about the "gay agenda".

Today from CNS, conservative news service there are 6, yes I said SIX stories about gay rights and all of them are written with an anit-gay spin unless they are copied from a reliable source such as the Washington Post.

Isn't it amazing that at a time when the economy is in the toilet, wars and rumors of wars abound, tax cuts and national deficit is all thats being discussed in Washington, these six stories are considered MAJOR NEWS to the conservatives?

Here they are in the reply

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Homosexual Agenda Unrelated to Civil Rights Movement, Conservative Blacks Insist -- Pete, 09:15:06 05/30/03 Fri
Church Leaders Pour Water on 'Gay Jesus' Claim -- Pete, 09:17:06 05/30/03 Fri
Criticism of gays riles Georgetown -- Pete, 09:19:57 05/30/03 Fri
Homosexual Activists Tout Clout With Democrats "it's sad enough for the country that one party is pandering to homosexual activists. Homosexuality is not equal to normalcy. It's not equal to normal heterosexual relationships" -- Pete, 09:41:20 05/30/03 Fri
'Gay Jesus' Claim Draws Fire -- Pete, 09:44:08 05/30/03 Fri
'Jewish Gay Agnostic Hero' Portrayed As Saint -- Pete, 09:47:48 05/30/03 Fri

Cut and paste news -- Drew Greyfox, 20:10:42 05/29/03 Thu
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Surrogate For Gay Dads Assailed By Court -- Drew Greyfox, 20:21:22 05/29/03 Thu
Philly Scouts Nix B.S.A. Anti-Gay Policy -- Drew Greyfox, 20:23:00 05/29/03 Thu

It's about time. But...so long as the Catholic and Mormon churches control the purse strings, Boy Scouts (at the national level) is unlikely to change. (NT) -- E.J., 22:43:48 05/29/03 Thu
Another article from a "slightly different" source -- E.J., 23:04:38 05/29/03 Thu
I'm really proud of them and Scouting For All, which has been very active in getting out support for gays during this convention. I think it will have a great impact on Scouting and shake it to the core. Every time someone stands up to the Scout's bigotry, it puts another chink in their armour. The whole thing is going to crumble if they don't change their policies towards gays. (NT) -- Sergio, 07:58:06 05/30/03 Fri

Just How Gay-Positive Are The Democrats? -- Drew Greyfox, 20:29:52 05/29/03 Thu
Bishops Tell Parishioners They Must ' Oppose Gay Marriage' -- Drew Greyfox, 20:31:25 05/29/03 Thu
Condoms Do Not Increase Teen Sex Study Shows -- Drew Greyfox, 20:38:45 05/29/03 Thu
Sweden To Offer Civil Union Register At Some Embassies -- Drew Greyfox, 20:39:38 05/29/03 Thu
Congress Ponders Anti-Gay Constitutional Amendment -- Drew Greyfox, 20:43:32 05/29/03 Thu
Australian States Move Forward On Gay Rights -- Drew Greyfox, 20:47:04 05/29/03 Thu
"Love-in" at University of Oregon protests antigay article -- Drew Greyfox, 20:48:44 05/29/03 Thu
The last time the US changed Iran's regime -- Drew Greyfox, 20:52:30 05/29/03 Thu

History Repeats Itself: Despite Thin Intelligence Reports, US Plans To Overthrow Iranian Regime -- Drew Greyfox, 20:53:57 05/29/03 Thu

The road map hoax -- Drew Greyfox, 20:54:55 05/29/03 Thu
Arrogance of Rumsfeld -- Drew Greyfox, 20:58:44 05/29/03 Thu

Where does this comment come from? It's just as arrogant as Rumsfeld's constant slobbery drivel -- Alie, 07:43:40 05/30/03 Fri

The "war on terror" has made the world a more dangerous place and created divisions which make conflict more likely, says Amnesty International. -- Drew Greyfox, 21:00:38 05/29/03 Thu
Bush quietly signs bill to allow federal borrowing to grow by nearly $1 trillion -- Drew Greyfox, 21:04:50 05/29/03 Thu
Tax Law Omits Child Credit in Low-Income Brackets (1 in every 6 children under age 17). . Amid great fanfare, President Bush, joined by administration officials and Congressional leaders, signed the tax-cut bill Wednesday in the East Room of the White House. -- Sprite, 21:30:22 05/29/03 Thu

Caught in the Squeeze. Mr. Bush's indifference to the deepening plight of working people -- Sprite, 21:35:49 05/29/03 Thu
Isn't it nice to know that when faced with the choice, republicans in congress chose a tax cut on stock dividends that helps the wealthiest Americans and threw out a tax credit that would help low income families...Greed: the number one republican 'family value'. Americans should be revolting by the millions, but most are too apathetic. (NT) -- Drew Greyfox, 21:46:39 05/29/03 Thu

National Anti-Patriot Act Movement Centers on Ground Zero; NYC Council Introduces Pro-Civil Liberties Resolution -- Drew Greyfox, 22:18:39 05/29/03 Thu

Vermont Continues the Trend: Becomes Third State to Speak Out Against Federal Abuses Under USA PATRIOT Act -- Drew Greyfox, 22:19:23 05/29/03 Thu
Philadelphia Adopts "Modern-Day Declaration of Independence" -- Drew Greyfox, 22:21:19 05/29/03 Thu

We're just really in the news today! ::sticks out chest with PRIDE:: (NT) -- Sergio, 07:59:52 05/30/03 Fri

WOOHOO -- Bester, 21:17:59 05/28/03 Wed
I gotta job. WOOO!!! lol, you are now all officially reading a post by a hotshot lawyer . Well, not really. But I got a summer internship at a major law firm here... that is essentially a 90% guarantee of a job when I graduate next year, as well as a kickass summer job for this year. I'm so happy, and totally relieved. I had interviews with 5 firms, but only got thi sone offer... I thought for a while I hadn't got ANY :(. But I did :D. Yaaaay! lol.

*dances happily*

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Congratulations Edward!!!!! :p (NT) -- Mitchell, 22:36:06 05/28/03 Wed
Congratulations Bester! That firm is lucky to have you! (NT) -- Dano, 22:43:56 05/28/03 Wed
YOU GO! *dances around and throws confetti* YEAH YEAH YEAH!! Bester, Bester, Bester!! -- Kris, 22:47:08 05/28/03 Wed
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! Does this mean we can all come to NZ and you'll pay for us to have a big party since you'll be makin' the big bucks? (NT) -- Nick, 23:11:39 05/28/03 Wed
WOO HOO!!! Congrats!! *big hugs* (NT) -- Drew Greyfox, 23:36:13 05/28/03 Wed
Woohoo, congrats! Didja wear the kilt to the interview? (NT) -- Trevor/TJ, 00:23:59 05/29/03 Thu
Congratulations Ed! We've got quite a few pre-law and law students as well as attorneys here on Crzy House. Must be something in the water! LOL (NT) -- Sergio, 13:07:21 05/29/03 Thu

Serge, knowin you boi's hormones I DON'T want to know what's in the water! *cues the Dave Matthews Band music* (NT) -- Kris, 20:25:23 05/29/03 Thu

Please read the poem BEFORE you glaze over with boredom, lol. This is a topic that is important to me. -- Bester, 06:44:28 05/29/03 Thu
I'll preface this by saying I didnt write it... but I think it has a great deal of relevance to any member of the gay community. I'd be interested in people's responses.

A Kiss (David's Reconciliation with Absalom), by Michael Field

The fury of a creature when it drips
Wer-fanged, and thirsty with the desert dust
The clench in battle on a sword that must
Ravish the foe, the pang of finger tips -
Joy of a captain in recovering ships
Joy, verity of a long-buried lust
Delightsome to the flesh, is the thrust
Towards Absalom of the king's tarried lips.
And, lo, beneath that awful benison,
A thief's face glittered, sniffinf at the gems
Of the bent crown as they were cassia-stems;
While the young years heard but the rolling on
Of chariots, and a tumult, broke amain
By rumour of an aged monarch slain.

I quite like the poem. Now, the interesting bit. Michael Field is 2 women. It was the pen name of Katharine Bradley and Edith Cooper. They lived together for most of their lives, most likely as a lesbian couple. This poem has quite explicit male homosexuality between biblical figures. Many others of their poems were based on translations of fragments of Sappho, the famous lesbian poet writing on Lesbos hundreds of years before Christ.

And when was this poem written? In the LATE 1890S. And except for a few feminist critics, they have been ignored since the 1920s. We can't afford to do this. We, ladies and gentlemen, have a history. We are not a product of a corrupt and degenerate modern society. Fags, Homos, Perverts, Inverts, we are not. In fact, the terms "sexual inversion" and "homosexuality" were coined AFTER the writers of this poem were born. We existed before the straights came up with names for us. We are the ideological descendants of a line of warriors, poets, artists, statesmen. From the sacred band of thebes, down through several european monarchs, E.M. Forester, Martina Navratilova, so many others I could name. We can't afford to forget any member of this history.

Why is this so important to me? Because every community needs a history. Sure, gay people are less visible than many other communities, but we are not invisible. We have our history, our literature, our heroes. This is why I study literature. Literature is our past. And our past is who we are. I'm a good law student. I'm in the top 10% of my class. If I dropped the lit and concentrated on the law, I could be in the top 2 or 3%. But then I wouldnt be being true to myself.

Be proud of Katharine Bradley and Edith Cooper. And be proud of yourselves.

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ok i read it an i will translate -- (�`'�.,�(�`'�.,��`��jErEmY��`��,.�'��)�,.�'��), 08:16:11 05/29/03 Thu

lmao! (NT) -- James, 10:51:13 05/29/03 Thu
rotflmclao! (NT) -- Sergio, 13:09:06 05/29/03 Thu
LOL, Jeremy's translation is a little easier to read :) (NT) -- ien, 17:48:54 05/29/03 Thu

GLBT in antiquity -- James, 11:09:54 05/29/03 Thu
Ed darlin... check with Lance or Serge and see if they still have the list of books I sent them. OH! and with what I have ADDED to that list I would be typing for a MONTH! But just for you I would do it.*wink* -- Kris, 12:06:34 05/29/03 Thu

I have a list of (gay) books that would be appropriate to donate to public school libraries. It also includes a few movies. I also have a list of famous GLBT people throughout history. I have most of the archives of crzy house stored away. It we get one of those super duper boards with all the catagories I will make information like that available in it's own catagory. (NT) -- Sergio, 13:13:30 05/29/03 Thu

I should update my list for you Serge... I lost the old letter I sent you when the computer crashed. I just have to find a day when I have nothing better to do, carpal tunnels feel fine, the beer is cold.. and prolly Aquarius is in the right house knowing the way I procrastinate! (NT) -- Kris, 20:22:06 05/29/03 Thu

LMAO, thanks for the translation jer. I never would have understood it by myself. And Kris, you ARE the guru of obscure information (more) -- Bester, 16:23:52 05/29/03 Thu

You wouldn't believe where I read about the ladies in question..wedged into a ponderous tome about a lesbian slasher murder... -- Kris, 20:17:48 05/29/03 Thu

LANNNNNNNCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEE! -- Josie, 14:22:33 05/29/03 Thu
Where the hell are you - baby!?????????

Unless ya having fun ( doing whatever) there's no excuse

of not showing ya gorgeous self around here but if ya feel

good and have fun you can be away a little longer.

Never mind the fact that I miss you and Im so sick

of having sex with the SAME guy every damn night.

I mean, I know what sergio looks like by now, every damn

inch, so boring! same person, same body yada yada yada

Same minutes LOL

I need variety!

Kidding, it's not that bad but it's not that good either.

Hahaha

Take care Lance, have fun and be happy.

You such a great person,wish you all the best and I wish

when you have the time that you'll post again cause you're

a person that one tend to miss alot, and I miss you :)

*smooch*

Josie

"Alright serge, Im coming, Stop nagging, dammit!"

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What's this all about? I'd have to say if it has Bush screaming and yelling, it must be good! LOL (NT) -- Dante, 07:48:49 05/23/03 Fri
i know what it is the next big milestone for mankind jeremy puts on a pair of shoes lmao (NT) -- -- :*~*:. .:*~*:. ..:*~*:. . { JASON } . .:*~*:. .:*~*:. :*~*:., 17:27:25 05/27/03 Tue

no the biggest milestone is 1 that wont happen.... jason finalee gets laid heeeeee (NT) -- (�`'�.,�(�`'�.,��`��jErEmY��`��,.�'��)�,.�'��), 07:53:05 05/29/03 Thu

Something to think about -- lokisdad, 22:38:39 05/27/03 Tue
My little sister is home safe and sound from Operation Iraqi Oil Theft.

here's a flash movie to check out

Lest we forget the true meaning of Memorial day

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I am SOOO glad to hear this piece of news! This is REAL news... (NT) -- Kris, 19:01:14 05/28/03 Wed
Mixed feelings -- Trevor/TJ, 00:37:14 05/29/03 Thu

I think thats what we've all been saying. The soldiers are just that - soldiers. They have no say in when they go to war or why. They do their job and they deserve to be commended for that. But the death of a soldier is all the more tragic when they die in a war based on lies and greed. (NT) -- Drew Greyfox, 01:01:26 05/29/03 Thu

Unembedded news and other peculiarities -- Alie, 12:46:58 05/25/03 Sun

What's been going on lately?

Poodle Blair drops his whitewashing lies one by one and shows that his "not against UN" pledges were nothing but bullshit. US serf Aznar wants a law that makes anti-war prostest a crime in Spain. Butcher Sharon kills everyone who isn't Jewish in Israel and everyone who wants to report about it. Deliberate murder of journalists seems to have gotten a common sport for the Israeli as well a for the US military. Small wonder, they have the same policy advisers. My own (Bavarian) government is making roundtrips to the Bush mob and is brown-nosing them so eagerly they can see the light of day at the other end. Even my German government is trying to get out of the doghouse. Needless to say, I don't agree with them.

No doubt, the US of Bushistan are on the road to totalitarism, only that their worthy leaders are calling it liberty. The only question that remains is whether it's still a two-way road with enough room for a U-turn in 2004, or is it already a oneway road? A while ago I asked what the US constitution says about presidential elections under martial law, and it seemed it doesn't say much. I wouldn't be too surprised if Bush started to mention FD Roosevelt in one of his next speeches. But I shouldn't say that - whenever I thought I wouldn't be surprised if this or that happened during the whole Iraq mess I could read about it in the news shortly after (including Saving Jessica Lynch).

One thing's for sure, the USA aren't a democracy, I've known that for quite a while. How comes? Some enlightened redneck from Texas explained it for me in a newsgroup a few days after 9/11. He said he's glad that the US are not a democracy because if they were, everything would be much worse. He's glad that the US are a republic, so something will be done against those dirty Arabs who should all be killed, no matter what. After some questions it turned out that he thought the US are a democracy when the Democrats are in power and a republic when the Republicans are. It also turned out that he was not the only one who thought so. Small wonder so many US Americans support Bush the scoundrel and his neocon mob and accept that their democratic rights are pulled off one by one. After all, who needs that democratic nonsense, that's only for unpatriotic whimps.

Bush and his neocon mob are busy as ever threatening, bullying and harrassing people, countries, humanitarian aid organizations, probably all the world and their dog. They are still trying to keep out humanitarian relief groups who don't want to work with the Pentagon (i. e. deliver their money and supply to the Pentagon so that more money stolen from US tax payers and the Iraqi people can fill the pockets of Halliburton, Bechtel, and other friends of Bush and his junta).

At least Bush and the neocon mob are officially acknowledging now that they invaded and occupied Iraq. Thus Iraq hopefully gets at least a little bit of the protection the Geneva convention grants occupied countries.

I'm posting another motley collection which drew either my ire or my interest.

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Business as usual : Red Cross denied access to PoWs -- Alie, 13:07:52 05/25/03 Sun
Enduring freedom: Gun gangs rule streets as US loses control -- Alie, 16:27:39 05/25/03 Sun
Enduring freedom: Who Said Pirates Don't Exist Now? -- Alie, 17:20:16 05/25/03 Sun
Enduring freedom: Learning English with Dubya -- Alie, 17:46:05 05/25/03 Sun
The Truth Will Emerge - by Sen Robert Byrd -- Drew Greyfox, 23:25:13 05/25/03 Sun

Okay - it�s official. I�ve gone through the looking glass for sure and I�m now living in some kind of bizarro world - straight out of those Superman comic books. A man who was proud to be a sheet-wearin�, cross-burnin� member of the West Virginia Ku Klux Klan - is now one of a handful of politicians on Capitol Hill who is making sense. (NT) -- Dano, 16:03:57 05/26/03 Mon

How civilian are civilian victims: Bombings Bring U.S. 'Executive Mercenaries' Into the Light -- Alie, 04:50:34 05/26/03 Mon
Moral Responsiblity for Iraqi Graves -- Drew Greyfox, 12:52:52 05/26/03 Mon
US plans death camp -- Drew Greyfox, 12:56:09 05/26/03 Mon

I was wrong about the US of Bushistan being on the road to totalitarism. They are already there. (NT) -- Alie, 14:28:52 05/26/03 Mon

Nearer my God to Thee: U.S. Hires Christian Extremists to Produce Arabic News -- Alie, 14:15:52 05/26/03 Mon
Nearer my God to Thee: Why Ecocide Is 'Good News' for the GOP -- Alie, 15:50:31 05/26/03 Mon
A different kind of Memorial: On rescuing Private Lynch and forgetting Rachel Corrie -- Alie, 12:58:51 05/27/03 Tue
A different kind or Memorial: A Proud Nation Should Be Sorry -- Alie, 13:08:26 05/27/03 Tue
Would everybody please help me fill those balloons with water? US finds evidence of WMD at last - buried in a field near Maryland -- Alie, 06:54:01 05/28/03 Wed

Hey, I didn't threathen anybody, I just asked nicely if I could please.... It's ok Sergio, no offense taken, that is, as far as you are concerned. -- Alie, 09:20:43 05/28/03 Wed

Yes it is against the law to make any kind of threat against the president, and the secret service does take them very seriously. And these days people are being arrested for wearing "peace on earth" t-shirts and holding signs that say "no war for oil". I don't doubt for a second that the government would shut down this board and investigate some of its members even for something that was obviously (to us) meant as a joke (NT) -- Drew Greyfox, 18:47:15 05/28/03 Wed

Victim's family files lawsuit against US troops -- Dante, 08:05:45 05/28/03 Wed

Cut and Paste News -- Drew Greyfox, 23:25:36 05/27/03 Tue
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State Could Save $Millions By Legalizing Gay Relationships -- Drew Greyfox, 23:28:41 05/27/03 Tue
'Keep Your Hands Off Gay Students' Texas School Told -- Drew Greyfox, 23:32:57 05/27/03 Tue
'Jesus Was Gay' Theologian says -- Drew Greyfox, 23:38:43 05/27/03 Tue

This sucks. All it's going to do is throw gasoline on the fire. All the far right fundamentalist anti-gay groups are going to run with this and raise more money with it than anything so far, wait and see. It will hurt a lot of gay people and gay kids who are just trying to live our own little peaceful, boring lives. We didn't need more controversy. (NT) -- Patriot, 14:12:29 05/28/03 Wed

This theory was put forth years ago, and whether one agrees with the theory or not I certainly don't believe in being a good little doormat for fear of angering religious zealots who hate gay people. (NT) -- Drew Greyfox, 18:32:30 05/28/03 Wed

Poland Demolishes Gay Awareness Campaign -- Drew Greyfox, 23:40:10 05/27/03 Tue
Texas governor signs defense of marriage act -- Drew Greyfox, 23:49:13 05/27/03 Tue
Asking and Telling -- Drew Greyfox, 23:50:36 05/27/03 Tue
Attacks On Troops In Iraq On Rise -- Drew Greyfox, 23:51:29 05/27/03 Tue
U.S. Troops Again Under Fire -- Drew Greyfox, 23:55:37 05/27/03 Tue
Bibles, Jurors Don't Mix -- Drew Greyfox, 23:57:20 05/27/03 Tue
Rice Quoted Saying U.S. to Ignore Schroeder -- Drew Greyfox, 23:59:28 05/27/03 Tue
Liberace Candidate -- Drew Greyfox, 00:02:13 05/28/03 Wed

By refusing to be honest about who he is, Foley is sending a message to gay kids and his fellow Republicans that being gay is something to be ashamed of. Throw in the fact that Foley is making a Senate run in a party in which one Senate leader just compared homosexuality to adultery, polygamy, bigamy and incest�comments Foley himself has yet to speak out on�and that the very president whose ass Foley kisses has refused to condemn the statements. -- Dante, 08:23:48 05/28/03 Wed

Senate Candidate: 'Don't Ask If I'm Gay' -- dante, 08:49:00 05/28/03 Wed

I don't think a person's sexual preference is anyone else's business. I don't think gay rights groups should be "outing" someone who says he is not gay. It's nobody's business. (NT) -- Patriot, 08:42:00 05/28/03 Wed

The overall issue you bring up is worthy of serious discussion, and has been discussed seriously (and on occasion heatedly) on this board in the past. Problem is - speaking for myself it�s hard to plumb the intellectual depths in this particular case because Foley is such a scummy, self-serving, pitiful excuse for a human being I�d be in favor of damn near anything that keeps his sorry ass out of the United States Senate. (NT) -- Dano, 12:03:50 05/28/03 Wed

But does it really matter whether anyone "approves" of a person or "likes" the person? Does disliking someone give others the right to ruin their lives? EVERYONE should have the right to decide for themselves whether they want to come out or not. I think it only shows how hypocritical the Democrat party can be when it comes to "gay rights." (NT) -- Patriot, 14:01:58 05/28/03 Wed

Democrats?? According to the Fort Lauderdale Sun -Sentinel "But the majority of the smears came from ultraconservatives in Foley's own party. Foley ignored those GOP smears, choosing only to attack unnamed Democrats in a news conference this week." Here's the whole article. -- Pete, 14:24:46 05/28/03 Wed

From the Free Republic someone wrote, "I don't care what he pokes as long as he votes right." to which others voiced their opinion that it DOES matter quite a bit. (more) -- Pete, 14:30:26 05/28/03 Wed

For a politician like Foley, who lives as a gay man and makes very little effort to hide it while supporting an anti-gay president and hateful religious zealots who harm the gay community, and then accuses democrats of perpetrating a smear campaign because somebody in the press printed facts about his personal life...that sounds like a bit of hypocrisy to me.... -- Drew Greyfox, 18:40:25 05/28/03 Wed

Canadian Political Leaders Support Gay Marriage -- Drew Greyfox, 00:57:18 05/28/03 Wed
View on gays will change, says archbishop book -- Alie, 08:17:25 05/28/03 Wed

Barney vs. Strom -- Pete, 14:34:19 05/28/03 Wed
A group of 11 congressmen yesterday asked Attorney General John Ashcroft to drop federal charges filed against a South Carolina war protester.

Activist Brett Bursey, 57, was arrested in Columbia in October for carrying a sign that read "No War for Oil" in a crowd of well-wishers who had gathered to welcome President Bush.

According to local press reports, Mr. Bursey was asked to give up his sign or go to the designated protest site in a less-visible area of the airport.

Mr. Bursey was arrested by local police and originally charged with trespassing. Those charges were dropped, but U.S. Attorney Strom Thurmond Jr. picked up the mantle and charged Mr. Bursey with disregarding perimeters set up by Secret Service for presidential visits.

"There is no plausible argument that can be made that Mr. Bursey was threatening the president by holding a sign which the president found politically offensive," wrote Rep. Barney Frank, Massachusetts Democrat, and 10 other House members in their letter to Mr. Ashcroft. "It was not his presence in the area, but his presence holding a sign that was expressing a political viewpoint critical of the president that caused his arrest."

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