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ROTFLMAO!! I clicked the link for ex gay john paulk and read this quote... -- dante, 08:42:18 05/21/03 Wed

Paulk said guilt over his lies forced him to tell the truth. "Finally the Lord said to my spirit, 'You know, John, you are My son. You are accountable to Me, and you must walk rightly before Me. You must be honest with Me, and you must be honest with man...and then Satan can't hurt you,'" Paulk said.

ROTFLMAO!

This guy is quoting "the Lord" like they talked on the phone for a few minutes! It's like reading Betty Bowers! LMAO!

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I liked the heading on that particular story. Focus on Family Stands Behind Paulk. Just HOW CLOSE are they "standing," is what I would like to know. If it were Popeye and Bluto, I think FOF would make it PRETTY clear there was something deviant going on. Here's a link -- Tom, 08:57:29 05/21/03 Wed
Humm, I thought he told the �truth� about it because a reporter or someone spotted him and wrote a story about it. (NT) -- Mitchell, 09:01:42 05/21/03 Wed

HEY HO -- Josie, 06:01:19 05/21/03 Wed
Just want to say a huge fucking thank you to Mitchy Bitchy

instead of writing shitty e - mails you can stick to what u

do test FANTASIES about MY boyfriend.

CONGRATS to Drew and Nick I laughed my ass off when u said

that certain things are PRIVATE LOL Hahahahahahaha

No comments :)

Yeah count down Serge, cause when Drewie is with nickie

Im getting a hikey! LOL

Im SEEING ADRIAN *SMOOCH*

And ,,,,,,, well we have an agenda hahaha *blush*

Its gonna be awesome I missed him so freaking much.

My sabih, Cecilai a friend of mine is coming with me and

then I have the room for myself a week;)

Okay I hav eto clean 20 cabins now, im in a fucking hurry

caus ei had to open an account in denmark and that took an

HOUR so now my boss is mad but its not my fault!

Okay I love you

Josie

BTW: M. Bitchy I really enjoyed the mail :)especially the

part of u having to take viagra Hahaha

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No, no, no, I know English isn�t your first language, so I�ll clarify what I said. I said, �I you want to get Sergio to sleep with you, you�ll have to slip him about 20 Viagra. Then get him really, really drunk...� =P hehe! (NT) -- Mitchell, 07:15:32 05/21/03 Wed

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I can't take the suspense! -- Sprite, 21:25:08 05/20/03 Tue
What is the BIG ANNOUNCEMENT?? My God, I was looking at it earlier and there were updates on that web site practically every hour on the hour today!!

I swear, everytime I look at it, it's different!!!!

Tell meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. ::pouts so adorably:: Please?

OMG, honey, the curiosity is killing me! LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

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The big news is, I�m pregnant. Everyone here needs to submit DNA for a paternity test. (NT) -- Mitchell, 23:52:50 05/20/03 Tue

"Who is Eric Cartman's father? Is it Chef? Mr. Garrison? The Denver Broncos?..." (NT) -- Drew Greyfox, 00:19:48 05/21/03 Wed

I think it's Lance lol (NT) -- Mitchell, 00:40:08 05/21/03 Wed

I never touched that skanky hoe. I have my own skanky neighborhood crack hoe to fend off. I acutally SNEAK in and out of my own apartment to avoid her in the hall! haha! SCARY! (NT) -- Lance, 01:25:36 05/21/03 Wed

Spritey!!!! I've missed you...great to see you again. (NT) -- Geoff, 01:52:09 05/21/03 Wed
�.,�,�.*,��*�`��*�"�)`'�.*,��*�`��(�`*�,�,.�*�*(�`'�.,(....::I want to know what it is:....�,*.�*'��)�,*.�*'��)�`'*��*(�`'�.*,��*�`��)�`'�.,��* (NT) -- (�`'�.,�(�`'�.,��`��jErEmY��`��,.�'��)�,.�'��), 07:15:53 05/21/03 Wed

Serge you are the sweetest! Thanks for adding the countdown at the top of the main page. Now everyone can join in the celebration! *does the happy dance* -- Nick, 18:48:32 05/20/03 Tue
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oh no they can't...some things still need to stay behind closed doors hehehehe *smooch* for Nick and a *BIG HUG* for Sergio =) (NT) -- Drew Greyfox, 19:47:29 05/20/03 Tue

*giggles* (NT) -- Nick, 20:20:00 05/20/03 Tue

Bush Is Seeking Newer, Smaller Nuclear Bombs -- ien, 12:32:57 05/20/03 Tue

Bush Is Seeking Newer, Smaller Nuclear Bombs
by Paul Richter

WASHINGTON � A dozen years after the Cold War's close raised hopes for an end to the nuclear threat, the Bush administration is embarking on a quest for a new generation of nuclear bombs that are smaller, less powerful � and that the Pentagon might actually use in battle.

In the administration's view, the frightening size of Cold War strategic nuclear weapons diminishes their deterrent value today: No one believes that the United States would use them against a smaller foe. As a result, they argue, the United States needs the option of smaller nuclear weapons to deter the terrorist groups and rogue states, such as North Korea, that are today's foremost dangers.

Although officials insist that they have no present plans to build such bombs, recent steps make it clear that they want to fully explore their options, and get the deteriorating U.S. nuclear weapons complex in shape so they could move to quickly develop and test such arms, if the order comes.

This month, the administration is taking a step toward a new generation of weapons as Congress moves to repeal a 10-year-old ban on the development of small nuclear arms. Over the protests of outnumbered arms control advocates, the Senate Armed Services Committee on Friday voted 15 to 10 to lift the ban; the repeal language is expected to survive as the defense authorization bill moves through the full House and Senate this month.

In the same bill, the Senate committee approved $15.5 million to conduct further research on a huge nuclear weapon, called the Robust Nuclear Earth Penetrator, that would be used to destroy deeply buried targets such as weapons stockpiles or enemy leadership sites.

The panel agreed to spend $6 million to research other advanced nuclear weapons concepts. And it earmarked $25 million to enable the Pentagon to resume, if necessary, the nuclear weapons testing that President Clinton suspended.

The moves dismay arms control advocates.

They fear that by developing small nuclear weapons that could be used in battle, the United States is legitimizing weapons that have been all but unthinkable, encouraging other countries to build nuclear arsenals, and undermining arms control treaties. They maintain that such bombs aren't even needed, because of the enormous capabilities of conventional precision munitions.

When Congress imposed the ban on small nuclear arms in 1993, it appeared to take one more step away from the age of nuclear weapons.

The United States already had disposed of most of its smaller, or tactical, nuclear weapons, and U.S. and Russian officials were busy negotiating to get rid of the thousands of strategic nuclear weapons as well.

Other states of the former Soviet Union were taking steps to get rid of their weapons, and it was widely understood around the globe that having a nuclear arsenal was an obstacle to countries joining the prosperous Western world. It appeared that nuclear weapons would be, at most, a secondary security issue.

Yet these hopes began to fade as the 1990s ended and it became clear that unstable Third World regimes still coveted the bomb.

Pakistan tested its first nuclear weapon in 1998. There were signs of increasingly international traffic in nuclear materials, and worries about the nuclear aspirations of such states as Iran, Iraq and North Korea.

Even before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, U.S. officials grew alarmed that nuclear bombs might fall into the hands of groups such as Al Qaeda, which sought martyrdom, and might not be deterred at all.

When President Bush took office, it was soon clear that he and many on his team had a different view of nuclear weapons.

Bush trumpeted his desire to sharply cut the U.S. and Russian strategic arsenals, and he signed a Treaty of Moscow under which the countries pledged to cut their strategic arsenals by two-thirds over 10 years.

Yet arms experts note that unlike other recent presidents � including Ronald Reagan � Bush did not declare his desire for a world free of nuclear arms.

And while there are differing views within the administration on arms issues, many senior officials have made no secret, in previous careers, of their doubts about arms control treaties. These include John Bolton, undersecretary of State for arms control and international security, and Douglas J. Feith, undersecretary of Defense for policy.

The administration says it is committed to the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty of 1970, which aims to limit the spread of nuclear technology. Last week, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell issued a statement praising its goals.

But privately, many administration officials say the treaty's weakness is evident in the cheating by North Korea. They contend the treaty can't restrain any country that seriously wants to break the rules.

The administration withdrew last year from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty with Russia, which had prohibited defenses against long-range missiles in hopes the step would discourage a nuclear arms race. The administration has also refused to push the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, which seeks to ban testing as a way to block the building of nuclear arsenals.

As they have expressed doubts about traditional arms control, officials have sketched out their thinking on nuclear policy.

In its Nuclear Posture Review of 2001, the administration urged development of a wide range of new nuclear capabilities, and said the United States might in some circumstances use nuclear weapons against countries that do not have them: Syria, Libya, Iran and Iraq. It said the United State should consider moving preemptively against countries that are developing chemical, biological or nuclear weapons.

Administration officials also believe that they need to be flexible in developing and using nuclear force because in the new environment, threats may develop quickly and come from unexpected quarters.

"The nuclear weapons enterprise has to be ready to respond rapidly and decisively," Linton F. Brooks, acting administrator of the National Nuclear Security Administration, told a congressional committee last month.

As part of that effort, the administration has been pouring money back into the nuclear weapons manufacturing complex, which maintains the remaining weapons stockpile at numerous sites around the U.S.

Spending on the nuclear complex averaged $4.2 billion a year during the Cold War, and bottomed out at $3 billion in 1995. This year, the administration is proposing to raise spending to $6.4 billion on the complex, which has about 100,000 employees.

Included is spending to refurbish various labs and facilities, to buy new plutonium cores for nuclear warheads, and to restart production of tritium, a gas that increases the force of thermonuclear explosions.

"There are upgrades all across the complex," said Stephen I. Schwartz, publisher of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists.

Opponents can try to stop any new bomb-making program by holding up appropriations for research, development and manufacture.

But arms control advocates acknowledge that's harder than it seems. Since many lawmakers see nothing wrong with research and development, and once a weapons program is big enough to provide large numbers of jobs, it gains broad political support.

Copyright 2003 Los Angeles Times

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our tax dollars at work... -- Drew Greyfox, 18:47:49 05/20/03 Tue

... -- Drew Greyfox, 08:51:50 05/20/03 Tue

State monitored war protesters

Intelligence agency does not distinguish between terrorism and peace activism

By Ian Hoffman, Sean Holstege and Josh Richman, STAFF WRITERS

Days before firing wooden slugs at anti-war protesters, Oakland police were warned of potential violence at the Port of Oakland by California's anti-terrorism intelligence center, which admits blurring the line between terrorism and political dissent.

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State monitored war protesters -- Drew Greyfox, 08:53:00 05/20/03 Tue

Hey ho! -- Josie, 01:40:43 05/20/03 Tue
TBW: Thanx 4 all the mails GUYS, yeah they really come rushing in!

Hahahaha

ANYWAY I said I wouldnt complain if I didnt have to clean

deck 2 so I won't - my boss said that no one likes being

down there and that we take turns well honey my turn is

over :) I woke up at four in the morning drinking these

pills so don't mess with me today!

On our way to Poland - I was suppose to go home tomorrow

and I have to wait one week.

I miss my Sputnik :) it's my cat. I miss him so much.

I miss being int he tub and brush him, he loves that :)

I miss him slepging on my pillow and take his pawn in my

face. I miss him licking my plate hahaha

He truely is my baby :)

And I miss my mom, she has an inflammation in her arm at

the moment so she is in a lot of pain and Im not there :(

Okay to sort out how the hell Im suppose to come home?

Take care

lots of luv

Josie

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Well.... -- Nick, 20:30:39 05/16/03 Fri
The good times have begun....I moved into mine and Drew's apartment today! I have pretty much everything moved except for just a few things. Now all I have to do is wait a little over 3 weeks til my boyfriend arrives. It's gonna be a long wait, but it will be sooooo worth it when he finally gets here.

*smooch* I love you baby!

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Make that 4 weeks, he�s taking a detour through Georgia for one last fling before he ties on the �old ball and chain.� LMAO!!!! Congratulations guys, be sure to come up for air every now and again. (NT) -- Mitchell, 21:56:59 05/16/03 Fri

HAHA! in your dreams Mitchey! (NT) -- Drew Greyfox, 22:07:49 05/16/03 Fri
Balls? Of course he'll be playing with my balls.......Oh...that's not what you said is it? OH WELL!!!!! *giggles* (NT) -- Nick, 02:22:03 05/17/03 Sat

I just want to say CONGRATULATIONS!! You both have to be getting really excited to see your dreams coming true. I think you guys rock! (NT) -- Dante, 07:50:22 05/19/03 Mon
Yeah only 3 weeks left *sight* :) then Im with Adrian as in WITH Adrian ;) I really love that guy. I dont think Lance like shim thought? hahaha (NT) -- Josie, 08:59:41 05/19/03 Mon

Cut and paste news -- Drew Greyfox, 01:33:35 05/19/03 Mon
Before the invasion of Iraq, Bush claimed that overthrowing Saddam Hussien in a bloodless war would bring about an end to terrorism, democracy in the mid-east, and even an end to the Isreali-palestinian conflict. Of course we all knew that was a truck load of manure. Iraq is in near anarchy after the deaths of thousands and under an inept occupation, and terrorist bombings in Saudi Arabia, Morroco, and Isreal have exposed GW's other two lies.

Lots of articles about this so I'm posted several, but there is some gay news as well.

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Students Walk Out On Santorum Graduation Speech -- Drew Greyfox, 01:35:01 05/19/03 Mon

GREAT! These students have done what the Republican Party refuses to do, hold Senator Santorum accountable for his hate speech. I sincerely hope this comes back to bite not only Santorum in the ass, but the entire Republican Party. I hope this opens a lot of gay people's eyes as to what exactly the Republican Party stands for when it comes to GLBT people. The White House/Congressional support for Santorum's homophobia says it loud and clear. Even Andrew Sullivan "got it" this time. (NT) -- Dante, 06:58:51 05/19/03 Mon

Clark Nomination Stalls -- Drew Greyfox, 01:36:19 05/19/03 Mon

With the movie "A Soldier's Girl" coming out on Showtime May 31, everyone in the US is going to hear once again about the murder of Private Winchell. I hope it puts the final nail in this man's career DESPITE PRESIDENT BUSH'S DETERMINATION TO REWARD HIM for the homophobia and hate-crime murder of Barry Winchell under his command. About the movie... -- Dante, 07:10:35 05/19/03 Mon

Homophobic Gang Forces Lesbian Couple From Home (UK) -- Drew Greyfox, 01:37:22 05/19/03 Mon

Police "dispersed" the crowd???? What happened to "arrested" the perpetrators? I guess its OK to beat lesbians and destroy their home as long as there aren't so many of you that you disturb the neighbors? (NT) -- Dante, 07:13:47 05/19/03 Mon

Despite Gains Most Gay Workers Unprotected -- Drew Greyfox, 01:38:17 05/19/03 Mon

Well don't tell that to gay conservatives. They like to believe gays have NO problems any longer, hence there is no need to even consider gay rights when casting your vote for political candidates who hate you. (NT) -- Dante, 07:15:46 05/19/03 Mon

Lesbian Teen's Killer Appears In Court -- Drew Greyfox, 01:39:37 05/19/03 Mon

Another dead kid. Another lost to hatred and prejudice that is condoned and ENCOURAGED by this administration's support of hate speech by Senator Santorum. WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE?? How many kids have to die before gay people finally stand together, united as a political force and say ENOUGH? I want everyone to remember these dead kids when they cast their vote. REMEMBER THEM GOD DAMN IT. (NT) -- Dante, 07:22:21 05/19/03 Mon

Civil Rights Bill Gains Support In Delaware -- Drew Greyfox, 01:40:42 05/19/03 Mon

The sponsor of the bill, Republican William A. Oberle Jr. I applaud his political courage, to go against the leadership of the Republican Party, to go against the leadership of the White House. (NT) -- Dante, 07:28:23 05/19/03 Mon

Majority of Americans Believe Homosexuality Should Not Be Illegal -- Drew Greyfox, 01:41:45 05/19/03 Mon

It is still legal to fire someone based on their sexuality in 36 states. That is barbaric. It has to change and the fastest way to make it change is by voting for people who support equal employment. (NT) -- Dante, 07:36:32 05/19/03 Mon

Miami-Dade United Way Shows Boy Scouts The Door -- Drew Greyfox, 01:45:11 05/19/03 Mon

Lance, you have to be loving this one!! I suggest that everyone who lives in a city where United Way still supports the Boy Scouts (like Lance's city does) - print this out, write a little letter asking them not to fund prejudice against gays, and send them both off to your United Way. You can also print this out, write a letter to your local paper and ask them to consider doing a story about your local United Way's continued financial support of the Boy Scouts bigotry. (NT) -- Dante, 07:41:52 05/19/03 Mon

Big Wind Over No Big Deal -- Drew Greyfox, 01:46:25 05/19/03 Mon
Terror's myriad faces -- Drew Greyfox, 01:52:13 05/19/03 Mon
Case proven - war does not eradicate terrorism -- Drew Greyfox, 01:57:08 05/19/03 Mon
Bin Laden triggered bombings in tape -- Drew Greyfox, 01:58:22 05/19/03 Mon
Half of al-Qaeda leaders have been eliminated: Bush -- Drew Greyfox, 02:01:36 05/19/03 Mon
David Nelson, could you step aside for a few moments? -- Drew Greyfox, 02:02:50 05/19/03 Mon
The man behind 'total war' in the Mideast -- Drew Greyfox, 02:04:06 05/19/03 Mon

Bin Ledeen - one of the scariest of the many scary figures of the neocon mob. (NT) -- Alie, 08:29:01 05/19/03 Mon

New ACLU Report Specifies Questions Needing Answers About Total Information Awareness Cyber-Surveillance System -- Drew Greyfox, 02:06:19 05/19/03 Mon

Went to see the Matrix reloaded, only one comment to make......................... -- ien, 06:49:46 05/18/03 Sun
Don't bother

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I agree. It sucked. (NT) -- Paul, 10:15:11 05/18/03 Sun

yep (NT) -- Tom, 20:39:32 05/18/03 Sun

told you all.... (NT) -- eddi, 03:45:00 05/19/03 Mon

Mitchell's Survivor Decorating Commentary -- Mitchell, 22:17:11 05/14/03 Wed
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Mitchell's Survivor Decorating Commentary -- Mitchell, 22:18:28 05/14/03 Wed

We want it Mitchell. We WANT IT! : )~ (NT) -- Markus, 01:03:45 05/15/03 Thu

mmmmmmmm, now that�s what I like to hear! (NT) -- Mitchell, 13:14:27 05/15/03 Thu

Mitchell, I would love to read your answers to the tribal counsel. I always enjoy all the Survivor commentaries (NT) -- Dan, 06:33:24 05/15/03 Thu

Excuse me? Did I say anything about anyone else�s commentary? I don�t think so!! This is all about MEEEEE!!!! Your just going to have to try harder than that! (NT) -- Mitchell, 13:18:00 05/15/03 Thu

Oh my! Someone's full of himself! LOL. It was very entertaining as always Mitchell. You always make me laugh. But at the risk of offending you, your highness, LOL, I look forward to reading the other two too! LOL (NT) -- Dan, 22:05:21 05/17/03 Sat

Kris. Help me out here. Come one everyone! Give the guy a break! Mitchell devotes his entire life trying to make your miserable meaningless existance a little more pleasurable, to bring some hope and beauty into an AMAZON JUNGLE FOR GODS SAKE.. -- Sergio, 09:24:00 05/15/03 Thu

get a room hahahaa (NT) -- Lance, 09:53:10 05/15/03 Thu

Shut up boy toy! Sergio�s got it figured out! (NT) -- Mitchell, 13:09:15 05/15/03 Thu

::fans self:: Ohh my, my, my, your good! (NT) -- Mitchell, 13:08:13 05/15/03 Thu
OMG!! ROTFLMFAO!! One question. Do you have Pay Pal or someway I can contribute by credit card? (NT) -- Markus, 13:57:08 05/15/03 Thu

Just slide it through the slot big boi! (NT) -- Mitchell, 14:39:58 05/15/03 Thu

And you accuse ME of giving too much information! jeez looeez MItchell.. I didnt need to know about yer slot! (NT) -- Kris, 21:58:00 05/15/03 Thu

I sure wasn't telling you about it!!!! LOL! (NT) -- Mitchell, 22:54:58 05/15/03 Thu

Some one call me? (NT) -- Kris, 21:50:19 05/15/03 Thu

So it's come to this has it? Holding your commentary for ransom and cheap sex? hey, works for me! HAHA. ::throws Mitchell down and rapes him twice:: (NT) -- Lance, 09:55:51 05/15/03 Thu

::blinks twice and missed it:: Was that it??? I was expecting so much more!!! Can I get an instant replay in slow-motion or something? (NT) -- Mitchell, 13:12:35 05/15/03 Thu

ROTFLMFAO!! (NT) -- Markus, 13:49:05 05/15/03 Thu

Is that it???? Only 5 people??? Pathetic! I GUESS since I already have this thing written I just as well post it!! As for next season, as far as I�m concerned, Survivor is CANCELED!!!! lol! -- Mitchell, 22:41:44 05/16/03 Fri

well - I read this while I was talking to Mitchey tonite (I'm home sick) and I LMFAO! -- Lance, 23:04:03 05/16/03 Fri

You're home sick? Already? Where are you, on tour? (NT) -- Sergio, 09:31:04 05/17/03 Sat

rotflmclao! well worth the emotional blackmail and extortion! haha (NT) -- sergio, 09:39:08 05/17/03 Sat

OH so we're playing for pay now? I loves your commentary Mitchell. And you WILL be back for next season's Survivor commentary's or we'll send deana after you! Of even worse, Heidi and Jenna! (NT) -- Sprite, 01:07:35 05/18/03 Sun
LMAO! I love it, Mitchell. Make them beg! (NT) -- Paul, 10:11:45 05/18/03 Sun
Hey Mitch. Thanks for the laughs. (NT) -- Tom, 20:43:03 05/18/03 Sun

Another one to add to my list of people who piss me off.. -- James, 19:22:33 05/16/03 Fri
www.cwfa.org

The site seems pretty tame and "wholesome" until you actually start reading one of their articles. God..don't they get sick putting speech marks over words like gay or sexual orientation?

These people just don't seem to understand what democracy or rights mean. *sighs* its depressing, the number of homophobic idiots there are out there.

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Ah yes, the concerned women for america, one of the country's biggest anti-gay "pro-family" organizations...there is nothing wholesome about them, they are simply hateful and work very hard to persecute gay people while advocating a "christian" government and nation. They are fundamentalist zealots to the core. (NT) -- Drew Greyfox, 22:06:21 05/16/03 Fri
Democracy? That's something it would seem doesn't exist in the USA as things are (I just read a story how voter lists are already rigged for 2004, so what other comment could anyone expect from me?). A former Shacker used to type democrazy - while I never found out whether he did it intentionally or because he was not a native English speaker, he couldn't have said it any better. (NT) -- Alie, 01:44:56 05/17/03 Sat

Democracy is shit. It always was a puzzle for me why people count democracy for something sacred. Democracy literally is a society ruled by the majority. What can be worse? The majority is always wrong and it always takes the worst possible decision. Even monarchy is better than democracy; it�s easier to deal with one idiot than with millions of idiots. (NT) -- brattyratty, 17:33:26 05/17/03 Sat

I disagree. Democracy has its flaws and shortcomings, but it is still the system in which the people have the most control over their own lives (other then anarchy)... -- Drew Greyfox, 00:40:06 05/18/03 Sun

"we should be thankful that he is president in a democracy" -contradiction? Sounds more like benevolent (!) dictator territory? (NT) -- jAmes the pedant, 07:25:59 05/18/03 Sun
Uh oh, I'm on a theory roll today! As much as I agree with you Drew, there are two flaws in your theory -- Alie, 07:40:08 05/18/03 Sun

It doesnt matter whether other countires claim to be a democracy or not, I was disagreeing with the claim that it would be better to live under a monarchy then a democracy and I certainly stand by that. For all its flaws and weaknesses I still think a democracy is FAR better then a system of unelected leaders... -- Drew Greyfox, 13:14:15 05/18/03 Sun

Imagine Bush is a king???? You want to scare me to death???? -- Alie, 15:13:59 05/18/03 Sun

It doesnt matter whether other countires claim to be a democracy or not, I was disagreeing with the claim that it would be better to live under a monarchy then a democracy and I certainly stand by that. For all its flaws and weaknesses I still think a democracy is FAR better then a system of unelected leaders... -- Drew Greyfox, 13:15:12 05/18/03 Sun

Hi Bratty! If your one-idiot theory would be true George II would have been dealt with already. But your deduction is wrong because the USA are not a democracy, they are an oligarchy, a cleptocracy, and a mediacracy (mediocracy?): The US Media and Their Monarch -- Alie, 02:01:18 05/18/03 Sun

First, the constitution does not give GW the powers that George III had, and last time I knew the US media does not determine whether democracy is an effective system of government or not. This article seems to be saying that since the US media has no credibility then democracy is a sham. Interesting (and ridiculous) conclusion (NT) -- Drew Greyfox, 13:20:59 05/18/03 Sun

I partially agree with you bratty - just as well we don't live in a democracy. We much more resemble an oligarchy in that "representatives" who are almost without exceptionvoted in with less than 50% of the public vote make our decisions for us... -- James, 07:22:07 05/18/03 Sun

what piss me off -- Josie, 09:48:32 05/18/03 Sun
Is that when I tell someone I panic on deck 2 and this person gives me that to clean this morning AND tomorrow

Well screw you!

Josie

If I say how I feel I will lose this job and I cant just yet

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What the fuck -- J., 11:54:35 05/17/03 Sat
The one whoo doesnt send me a mail by tomorrow I wont ever

yeah I will, just write!

Im so bored of this shit. WE are so many cleaners here and

Im always the one who has to take deck 2!

I HATE THAT DECK and my boss know sit, I told her that I

feel so bad being down there and she said - well just dont

think about it!

HELLO!

Anyway it says on the wall here you not allowed to visit

porn sites and I have to say Nick, ya damn close into

making it into one! hahahahahaha

BEHAVE or I might get thrown overboard and then Mitchy -

Bitchy would have MY b/f all to himself.

Speaking of which think I have neglected my first b/f some.

* pulls Lance into a closet and make out* hahaha'

Okay I have to eat

I love you

Josie

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You got the bitch part right! And don�t you forget it!!!! LOL! (NT) -- Mitchell, 23:10:52 05/17/03 Sat

Spoken like a true diva, Mitchell! (NT) -- Sprite, 01:04:01 05/18/03 Sun

Road Map To Peace Goes Nowhere -- Drew Greyfox, 22:47:19 05/17/03 Sat

In order for President Bush's allegedly non-negotiable road map to peace to work, he will have to put tremendous pressure on the Israeli government to comply with it. He won't do that. Therefore, it will fail.

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Road Map To Peace Goes Nowhere -- Drew Greyfox, 22:51:56 05/17/03 Sat

So I went shopping today... -- Kris, 22:29:04 05/15/03 Thu
I bought me a t shirt. It has a picture of a donkey on it and says: "So I am being an ass. What's it to you?!"

Yeah the hubby said it was me all the way.

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Does this help Serge? -- Kris, 22:31:37 05/15/03 Thu
And coz its all about ME! -- Kris, 22:33:59 05/15/03 Thu

Note the Christmas lights and wreath on the door... -- Kris, 22:36:39 05/15/03 Thu

Haven't figured out what this has to do with the tee shirt, but "me too" - took down the xmas lites (late) last month - I thought - found a couple more strands on a bush. Unplugged the extension to mow the lawn so I forgot 'em! (NT) -- Trevor/TJ, 23:32:33 05/15/03 Thu

Very pretty! I have xmas lights up in my dorm room all year. they look pretty in the dark and unlike candles, wont burn the place down if I fall asleep. (NT) -- Dante, 09:02:59 05/16/03 Fri

Im never an ass, everyone else are! hahaha and Serge is beyond help, I have tried everything! hahaha J/K baby, you know I love you. -- Josie, 01:49:07 05/16/03 Fri

I don�t know, I like the word love. Just the other night, Sergio and I were basking in afterglow, you know, had the whole spooning thing going on. When he told me he loved me, I thought it was very sweet. (NT) -- Mitchell, 08:44:45 05/16/03 Fri

LOL (NT) -- Dante, 09:04:29 05/16/03 Fri
The reason he is sponing is because he doesnt want so see your face since he's picturing ME! Haha (NT) -- Josie, 13:46:39 05/16/03 Fri

LMAO! (NT) -- Mitchell, 21:50:45 05/16/03 Fri

cut and paste news -- Drew Greyfox, 18:52:38 05/13/03 Tue
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Gay Childcare Law Passes Cal. Assembly -- Drew Greyfox, 18:54:04 05/13/03 Tue
Teen Murdered After Disclosing She Was A Lesbian -- Drew Greyfox, 18:55:01 05/13/03 Tue
Scottish MP Calls For Civil Unions -- Drew Greyfox, 18:56:19 05/13/03 Tue
Brigit Bardot: Gays Ruining France -- Drew Greyfox, 18:57:23 05/13/03 Tue

She sounds bitter and jealous. How sad that she isn't excited about change and liberation for everyone and instead "moans" about the good old days. She's as racist and homophobic as Trent Lott and Jesse Helms. LMAO. I guess life experiences didn't do much to educate her about acceptance or even tolerance of minorities, just animals. (NT) -- Lance, 10:35:04 05/15/03 Thu

2nd Politician Attacks Gays Over Marriage (Canada) -- Drew Greyfox, 18:58:36 05/13/03 Tue
Worldwide protests decry Egyptian treatment of gays -- Drew Greyfox, 18:59:54 05/13/03 Tue
Hussein Backers Regain Role in Government -- Drew Greyfox, 19:01:54 05/13/03 Tue
Don't applaud questionable motives -- Drew Greyfox, 19:06:28 05/13/03 Tue

No wonder Ari put this woman in the back of the briefing room. If she still had her front row seat - she might insist that the Bushies answer some REAL questions, unlike the rest of the lap-dog White House press corp. (NT) -- Dano, 11:29:49 05/14/03 Wed
THIS IS A GREAT FUCKING ARTICLE. THANKS DREW (NT) -- Lance, 17:44:54 05/16/03 Fri

What Have We Really Won in Iraq? -- Drew Greyfox, 19:08:24 05/13/03 Tue
Pfc. Winchell's Mom Meets With Gen Clark -- Drew Greyfox, 01:46:30 05/14/03 Wed
Mary Matalin defends Santorum on Meet the Press, calling him �a wonderful, caring, loving man�. (Are you out there Josh? Take a look - I think you�ll be as disappointed as I was. What has happened to Mary?) -- Transcript inside -- -- Dano, 11:45:18 05/14/03 Wed

WOW. All I can say is poor James Carville. I feel bad for their baby as well. (NT) -- Markus, 14:18:36 05/15/03 Thu

Have you seen their little girls lately -- they�re both sooo cute. Those kids obviously didn�t get their looks from James. But hopefully they take after their dad instead of their mother in every other way. Before the 2000 election Mary said that if the republicans started bashing gays she would leave the GOP - now she�s defending Santorum! (NT) -- Dano, 11:13:04 05/16/03 Fri

Yeah, I can't believe she's defending him. She's living down to my expectations. (NT) -- Lance, 17:42:11 05/16/03 Fri

PATHS OF GLORY -- a commentary by PAUL KRUGMAN in today�s NY Times. (This is really more of a warning than anything else - but is anybody listening?) -- Dano, 19:03:39 05/16/03 Fri

... -- Drew Greyfox, 00:27:55 05/16/03 Fri

Tonight I went to my sister's college graduation. The commencement speaker said something that I thought was good to share. He mentioned that the graduating students were recieving a copy of the bill of rights with their diploma, and urged them to use their education to help safeguard our liberties. He said that international terrorism is a real threat to our freedom, but also said there are threats to our freedom from within.

"Beware of those who ask us to give up a little of our freedoms in exchange for some measure of security. There is no such thing as a little freedom."

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He better be careful. Publicly defending the Bill of Roghts could get him earmarked for an FBI investigation, or a petition to have him fired, or just a boycott in general of the college! LOL. Seriously, I think it rocks. Every college and high school across the country should be doing the same thing. (NT) -- Dante, 08:59:14 05/16/03 Fri
That�s encouraging, Drew! And like Dante said, schools across the country should be doing this! BTW - here�s an interesting quote I came across a couple of days ago: �My definition of a free society is a society where it is safe to be unpopular� -- Adlai E. Stevenson. (NT) -- Dano, 11:15:48 05/16/03 Fri

Amid action, 'X2' offers quiet message of struggle -- Princess Eddi, 19:46:28 05/12/03 Mon
LA TIMES

By Scott Essman, Special to The Times

In his review of "X2: X-Men United" (May 2), Times film critic Kenneth Turan engrosses the reader with canny descriptions of the effects and thrills in the new comic-book action-adventure film. At the end of the review, however, he notes that " 'X2' might not be the place you'd think to look for any kind of message."

Yet one need only look slightly below the surface to discover the horde of homosexual references that director Bryan Singer and company have laid into the foundation of the film.

In its most general sense, "X2" is about a league of mutants (born distinctly different from "humans") led by professor Charles Xavier (Patrick Stewart) and Magneto (Ian McKellen), two apparently childless, single, middle-aged males. That all mutants are excluded from mainstream society, warranting a special underground society (Xavier's school and Magneto's more radical band of neo-terrorists), is a profoundly homosexual undercurrent in the film.

In the world of "X2," we see reactionary politicians, namely William Stryker (Brian Cox), who wishes to wipe out all mutants (coincidental parallels to recent Pennsylvania politicians?). In Stryker's case, his wrath is most directly driven by the discovery that his son was a mutant -- a classic metaphor for a straight father rejecting his gay son.

Moreover, heterosexual love is as confusing as it is forbidden for "X2's" lead characters. Thirtysomething Jean Grey (Famke Jannsen) is conflicted over feelings that she has for both Cyclops (James Marsden) and Wolverine (Hugh Jackman), unable to consummate her love for either. Forced to deal with his own demons, Wolverine fantasizes about Grey and Rogue (Anna Paquin) but cannot make a choice; there are too many uncertainties in his past that lead him on his tortured path. He plays right into the hands of cunning Mystique (Rebecca Romijn-Stamos), a shape-shifter whose profound beauty and ability to change sexual personas comes off as a tease to Wolverine, leaving him unable to choose. After a female character commits suicide, in part due to her own sexual identity conflicts, Cyclops and Wolverine are forced to console one another, though they cannot make direct eye contact.

Still, the most profound impact of "X2's" subtext is found in its young, indecisive characters. Rogue is unable to physically touch her "boyfriend" Iceman (Shawn Ashmore), a strong symbol of the taboo nature of homosexual feelings that the characters have sublimated. In their early 20s or younger, Rogue and Iceman confess that they are "working it out" when it comes to their relationship. A third young character, Pyro (Aaron Stanford), represents the possible love triangle.

When the group, expelled from Xavier's compound, arrives at Iceman's house, his parents are unaware he is a mutant. They reject him, his brother turning him in with Judas-like severity, and Iceman is forced to abandon the family, ostensibly forever. How many American teens can relate to this scene on a profoundly emotional level?

"X2's" numerous subtleties and dialogue references are many and will require multiple viewings to reveal. This author's favorites: a map showing the existence of mutants in virtually every corner of the Earth, and a phallic symbol in the shape of a soda bottle, handed from one character to another who blows on it to make the soda cold. Only a smart and distinguished production like "X2" could include that scene and still play in thousands of multiplexes.

The film represents a brilliant attempt to infuse a mainstream entertainment with homosexual themes and issues, playing to mass audiences without hitting them over the head with overtly gay material. Whereas many prominent gay characters are presented as cause for comic relief on popular TV sitcoms, Singer and his collaborators have carefully crafted a film that on the surface is an action spectacular, but is much more than that, speaking quietly to general audiences. As "X2's" mutants internally struggle over whether to separate or integrate into humanity, a strong parallel is drawn to our gay community's battles to do the same in our "straight" society.

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I think this sort of thing is really important... -- James, 10:44:34 05/13/03 Tue
Sounds like the fine art of misogyny hits an all time low in this flick... -- Kris, 20:40:03 05/13/03 Tue

?? (NT) -- Drew Greyfox, 21:16:38 05/13/03 Tue
Kris honey, the last I checked, gay means attraction to the same gender. NOT hatred of the opposite. (NT) -- Mitchell, 21:34:32 05/13/03 Tue

OH shaddup Mitchey.. let me have my obsessions... I let you guys hunt out homophobia where you find it.. let me find misogyny in the way the sun sets! -- Kris, 21:44:18 05/15/03 Thu

"Please allow me to retort" ~ Pulp Fiction HAHAHAA!! (you might need to pack a lunch - this is kinda longish!) -- Lance, 23:14:48 05/13/03 Tue

LMAO!! ok Lance, thanks for giving away almost all of the movie for those of us that have yet to see it hehehe... -- Drew Greyfox, 00:36:40 05/14/03 Wed

You're welcome! HAHA! (NT) -- Lance, 11:03:34 05/14/03 Wed
Actually... Vin Diesel is half black, half Italian (NT) -- JunJun, 17:56:24 05/14/03 Wed

ok, I stand corrected, I thought he was Italian and hispanic (NT) -- Drew Greyfox, 18:22:56 05/14/03 Wed

Actually white supremicists make no distinction between hispanics and african americans. They are all labeled as "mud races" by the master race. (NT) -- Lance, 10:16:04 05/15/03 Thu

Welcome to Crzy House! (NT) -- Markus, 01:05:30 05/15/03 Thu
Welcome to Crzy House Jun Jun. My name is Lance and I'm the owner of the board. It's good to have you here. (NT) -- Lance, 10:05:16 05/15/03 Thu

Hi (NT) -- JunJun, 17:28:29 05/15/03 Thu

Amen Lance! (Also Long with a spoiler at the end!) -- Sir Auron, 11:56:00 05/14/03 Wed

I want to welcome you to Crzy House too. I hope both of you just pull up a chair and make yourself at home. (NT) -- Markus, 01:07:21 05/15/03 Thu
Hey, good to see you here! Welcome to Crzy House. Do you read the Preacher? (NT) -- Lance, 10:08:44 05/15/03 Thu

X-Men r perfect til they hit 13 n suddeny they have these magical powers they dont know what 2 do with. its much more like being gay than it is being any other mionority. what other minority forms at about age 13? (NT) -- mattie, 01:40:30 05/15/03 Thu

Actually, every minority is like that pretty much. You dont see 2 5 year olds fighting because one is black and one is white do ya? 13-16 is when most of us start to form our prejudices and start to act on them at school and work and such. Like I said, If you want to embrace it as being a homosexual themed thing, then thats great -- I for one have never seen it that way. (NT) -- Auron, 03:56:18 05/15/03 Thu

Actually, as an activist, I see people of all ages fighting because one is white and the other black but I agree with you, that the film is about acceptance and could be applied to any minority. (NT) -- Lance, 10:03:06 05/15/03 Thu

Musical review of X-Men II -- Mitchell, 09:07:13 05/15/03 Thu

hahaha did they say "pattrick stewart looks like a penis in a wheelchair"? (NT) -- Lance, 10:13:26 05/15/03 Thu

Congress Considering Building "Mini-Nukes" and "Bunker Busters" Tell Them There Are No "Usable" Nukes, Stop This Dangerous And Expensive Folly -- Mitchell, 21:34:21 05/15/03 Thu
Note from Ben: For this alert I asked Retired Vice Admiral Jack Shanahan to tell you what is going on. Here is his amazing insight:

When I was on active duty in the Navy back in the '60's and '70's we had nuclear weapons on our ships that were designed to be used in battle. The idea was that if we ever got into real trouble we could wipe out Soviet submarines and bombers with a few nuclear depth charges and nuclear surface to air missiles - hopefully without igniting a full scale nuclear holocaust.

The only problem was we all knew that was hogwash. I actually simulated firing off a bunch of these during military exercises and the results were so devastating I knew 3 things: First, these things were so powerful we could never really use them in battle without damaging ourselves. One nuclear depth charge would blind our submarine detection instruments in an entire ocean, for example. Second, once we went nuclear there was no way the Soviets wouldn't. And third, nuclear weapons are weapons of mass destruction and it would always be immoral to use them. Pres. Bush the elder eventually removed these nukes from our ships and out of the hands of at sea operational commanders. Congress finally made it illegal to create new "mini-nukes" in 1993 when they passed the Spratt-Furse provision.

Now Pres. Bush the younger and Congress are working to create a whole new generation of "usable" nukes. They are trying to repeal the Spratt-Furse provision so they can build a bunch of mini-nukes. They also want to spend millions to create a new high yield nuclear weapon to put on top of our conventional bunker busters, a weapon that already works fine.

The thought of this keeps me up at night for two reasons. First, America signed the global Non-Proliferation Treaty with over a hundred other nations. The deal was simple: If you don't have nuclear weapons, you can't build them; in exchange, those of us who do will work to get rid of ours. How can we complain that countries like North Korea shouldn't build new nuclear weapons in violation of the treaty when the Bush Administration proposes doing the very same thing? Second, with a trigger-happy White House that believes our country can win "pre-emptive wars" on the cheap, those folks might actually use these things if they ever got their hands on them.

Do the world a favor, send Congress faxes telling them you think there is no such thing as a "usable" nuke and they shouldn't try to build any. Just click this link:
http://www.truemajority.com/index.asp?action=10013&ms=mnnks1&ref=266917
Then send this email to your friends and ask them to do the same.

Thanks,

Vice Adm. Jack Shanahan (Ret.)

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Should Republicans Get Special Rights? -- Pete, 20:45:03 05/15/03 Thu
Senator Santorum Outed

The outcry of Senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania regarding homosexuality is nothing more than a cry for help from someone silently afflicted with a severe case of human rights dysphoria. This condition generally reveals itself to a small minority, but politically powerful individuals known in common terms as �Republicans.�

Some religious zealots have called for compassion in the treatment of Republicans, noting that some practitioners such as Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine, while declared Republicans, attempt to disengage themselves from actual Republican acts. �We must love the practitioner, while hating the practice,� one fundamentalist independent noted.

Still, Democrats believe that practicing Republicans are not born that way. They believe something in their upbringing brings them to unspeakable acts such as demanding tax cuts during time of war. �Chances are that Republicans suffered from a weak father that took them to country clubs during an impressionable age and pressured alumni organizations into placing them within an Ivy League college,� one Democrat insisted.

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Should Republicans Get Special Rights? (cont.) -- Pete, 20:46:55 05/15/03 Thu

TONIGHT -- Paul, 17:51:51 05/15/03 Thu
at 10:00 Eastern

on MTV

GAY CRUISE!!

It looks delicious!

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The biggest disappointment of the year...... -- a very disappointed Princess, 13:29:19 05/15/03 Thu
Matrix:reload is the biggest disappointment. I saw it last night. It was ridiculus. That new tricks of Neo is just funny and stupid. The fighting is fake. It looked like they are practicing instead of real shooting. The special effect was just...that, nothing special, nothing reveolutionary. The Neo vs. lota smiths part is just like animatrix (which shows b4 dreamcatcher). The plot was ridiculus, so many scenes that were un-needed and destroyed the movie. THe good part= rave, lobby/highway scene. THAT's IT. i was soo disppointed, so was my friends, and the people sitting bhind us..the in front of us..and people sitting in front of them..and u know so on and on. I have not heard a "i love this movie" from anyone.

A very disappointed Princess

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I haven't got to see matrix yet, but speaking of disappointments, did anyone else watch Dawson's Creek the Final Espisode? What was THAT about! I was so completely disgusted with that show. First of all -- Paul, 17:49:57 05/15/03 Thu

HEY LUIS!! Last night I went to a Marilyn Manson CD release party -- Lance, 02:09:35 05/14/03 Wed
last night at midnight and got a copy of his new CD .

Everyone should to go to kazaa and download this song "(s)AINT"

(s)AINT

I don't care if your world is ending today
Because I wasn't invited to it anyway
You said I tasted famous so I drew you a heart
But now I'm not an artist, I'm a fucking work of art

I got an F and a C, and I got a K too
And the only thing that's missing is a bitch like u

You wanted perfect, you got your perfect
Now I'm too perfect for someone like you
I was a dandy in the ghetto with a snow white smile
But you'll never be as perfect whatever you do

What's my name? What's my name?
Ah-ah, Ah-ah
Hold the S because I am an ain't

What's my name? What's my name?
Ah-ah, Ah-ah
Hold the S because I am an ain't

Ah-ah, Ah-ah
Ah-ah, Ah-ah

I am bone top, a deathset, on a mop stick
You infected me to diamonds, I took all your shit
Your sell-by-date expired so you had to be sold
I'm a suffer-genius and then a sex symbol

You wanted perfect, you got your perfect
Now I'm too perfect for someone like you
I was a dandy in the ghetto with a snow white smile
But you'll never be as perfect whatever you do

What's my name? What's my name?
Ah-ah, Ah-ah
Hold the S because I am an ain't

What's my name? What's my name?
Ah-ah, Ah-ah
Hold the S because I am an ain't

Ah-ah, Ah-ah
Ah-ah, Ah-ah

I got an F and a C, and I got a K too
And the only thing that's missing is u

I got an F and a C, and I got a K too
And the only thing that's missing is a bitch like u

I got an F and a C, and I got a K too
And the only thing that's missing is a bitch like u

I am the penny in the ghetto with a snow white smile
Super ego-bitch, I've been evil a while

I am a dandy in the ghetto with a snow white smile
Super ego-bitch, I've been evil a while

What's my name? What's my name?
Ah-ah, Ah-ah
Hold the S because I am an ain't

What's my name? What's my name?
Ah-ah, Ah-ah
Hold the S because I am an ain't

I love it! It rocks!

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Me likes :) (NT) -- ien, 11:45:38 05/14/03 Wed

Isn't it awesome? It's so fun and campy. Only one person downloaded this song and listened to it? God, I miss Luis. (NT) -- Lance, 10:24:01 05/15/03 Thu

Fine! I downloaded it! Ummm, interesting??? I have a sudden urge to worship the devil! LMAO (NT) -- Mitchell, 14:38:26 05/15/03 Thu

What's my name again? -- josie, 12:20:07 05/15/03 Thu
I KEEP FORGETTING.

Im so tired, not in the way that I FEEL sleepy but my body.

Im not kidding when I say Im standing up 10 hours a day.

We are allwoed to have half an hour lunch but I didn't

because at TEN we so busy! We have to clan departure cabins

and mini cabins and have the worst fucking bad luck!

Nothing on this boat works!

I ruined 2 vacum cleaners Hahahahahaha

Shut up Lance! ;)

Happened to more than me and the cord to my vacum cleaner

didnt work for half an hour, the elevator was crowded, my

pram didnt have these big black bags ( my fault) but its

so time consuming. I have bruises and cuts all over.

Yesterday I cut my self on the ELEVATOR! Hahahaha

BEFORE ten and after cleaning cabins we get small stuff to

do but I dont mind as long as they surve a purpose, now

scrubing the garbage room does NOT!

Im not gonna laugh at that one.

I just dusted off banisters and you know those tiny

emergencies lights, I had to clean those HAHAHA

The one son the wall and this older man just laughed his

ass off and I was like - could be worse, I could have got

the ones on the floor.

We had this life boat exercise today how to get it into the

water, now firts of all, I just learne dhow to put on the

dish washer after 10 years Hahahaha

I didnt understand a SHIT, if it would be in swedsih or

english maybe I would have gotten some clue but in danish

no. Im learning by teh minute, mixing danish, swedish and

english. My fav person on the boat is gay haha

well he hasnt told me an dhes fem but I can tell. Its a

gift! hhahahahaha We hav ethe same humour tahts why I know

hes gay, Straight ppl are boring hahaha

I forgot where I was going with this? But we joked about

everything. Oh yeah we had to cimb down this freaking

stair in the boat and I nerly killed myself. OMG!

and they had to pull me up Hahahaha

I cant walk straight in a life west and they say its

beacuase im so tiny haha. Im the smallest on the boat :)

We all have to go on a security course and we learn the

basic stuff, i just hope i will understand?

My friend did but then again she had been out a long time

on her current ship and on another one so,

Now we are on our way to Poland :(

Dont like that harbour, and I see my friends ship in

Denmark. Actually we are on our way to Sweden and then

Poland. Short stop in Sweden. i will probably be at check

in in Trelleborg from now on since I speak swedish.

No one understood what o said when I told em to take the

elevator but I know how to say it in danish too :)

Its elevator

Hahahahaha

In swedish hiss.

The ocean is calm but teh first days when I was asleep it

was this vibration now its this rocky ( slightly) rocking

feeling and I hate it, I feel really sick. Everyone

just tease me.

One polish - swedish guy isi so hot hahahahaha

He said - PPL cant read it says CHECK IN SHOW BOARDING

CARDS and no one does. I said " its beacuse they are

looking at ur pretty face" haha :)

Spekaing of danish, we had this thing ont he bridge and I

had to ask him to speak english, him I didnt understand.

when its not common language I cant understand and I asked

" whats teh difference between this fire extinguisher and

that one?"

he said - This will take out all fires but it will ruin

the carpet so use the other one.

LOL

Im like , well if its a fire I will just take what ever

so send me the bill.

Okay its six now, will go to bed.

take care

Josie
That was a lie, cant sleep, I been up since 4 I checked

to see if the emergencies lights were on. hahaha

FOR ME this IS rocky!

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cut and paste news -- Drew Greyfox, 22:14:01 05/14/03 Wed
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Openly Gay Troops Serve With Distinction In War -- Drew Greyfox, 22:16:53 05/14/03 Wed
Police ID Suspect In Lesbian Teen Slaying -- Drew Greyfox, 22:18:52 05/14/03 Wed

This is a sad story. Kids think they are immortal. You have to be careful, especially at 3 a.m. There's lots of psychos out there. (NT) -- Lance, 10:21:36 05/15/03 Thu

Quiet Death For Assault Weapons Ban? -- Drew Greyfox, 22:19:47 05/14/03 Wed
Bombs Make The Difference -- Drew Greyfox, 22:24:12 05/14/03 Wed
US warns of new terrorist onslaught -- Drew Greyfox, 22:28:21 05/14/03 Wed
Bush's Faith Based Intelligence -- Drew Greyfox, 22:30:06 05/14/03 Wed
The Bigots Bluff -- Drew Greyfox, 22:33:59 05/14/03 Wed

Doesn't anyone miss me! :( -- Josie, 06:05:19 05/15/03 Thu
Hahahahaha

Okay Im gonna vacum cleaning and have a life boat exercise.

My friend will look, her ship is next to mine:)

Josie

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Hey Baby Cakes. I miss you something fierce! *hugs* (NT) -- Lance, 10:18:38 05/15/03 Thu

Support the "Freedom to Read Protection Act"! -- Mitchell, 21:41:15 05/13/03 Tue
Under an infamous provision in the USA PATRIOT Act, the FBI has the power to search your library and book-buying records by simply telling a secret court that the records are "sought for" an intelligence investigation. Furthermore, if the librarian or bookseller tells you that they turned your records over to the government, they could be imprisoned.

Proposed legislation before the U.S. House of Representatives -- the "Freedom to Read Protection Act" -- would remove this power to search your records without a warrant or probable cause. It is a much-needed fix to the USA PATRIOT Act, the controversial and sweeping anti-terrorism law rushed through Congress just after September 11.

This positive legislation will restore constitutional protections of our privacy. It deserves our support!

Click here to get more information and to take action!
http://www.aclu.org/NationalSecurity/NationalSecurity.cfm?ID=12607&c=110

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Thanks, Mitchell. Mr. Stark will be hearing from me again. (NT) -- TheEggman, 22:22:54 05/13/03 Tue
Well I'm pretty sure John Ashcroft is most likely well informed on my reading material anyway, so I just went out and bought Stupid White Men by Michael Moore. (NT) -- Lance, 23:27:00 05/13/03 Tue

Slightly worried... -- James, 10:57:52 05/13/03 Tue
I guess the suicide bomb attacks on Western compounds in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia have been reported in the US press - apparently so far they think 30 dead, 200 wounded. My dad used to work in the Middle East and I even lived for 6 months in one of those compounds in Riyadh - the type that got attacked, maybe even the same one.

Anyway, I phoned home the other day and my dad said he'd got a job in Manama - Manama? Yes, Manama, capital of Bahrain (ie right next to Saudi). He's going there for 3 months, maybe more, leaving next week - so now after these bomb attacks I'm pretty worried.

My theory is that bin Laden is in fact in Saudi Arabia where he has a lot of support (remember where the majority of the 9/11 hijackers came from?). Now the US have just said they're withdrawing from Saudi for the first time since the Gulf War. It's a perfect opportunity for Al Qaeda to take advantage of the situation and try to destabilise the Saudi government, especially since the land is currently run by the Crown Prince rather than the King Fahd, who has been incapacitated by recent strokes.

Saudi has a LOT of islamic extremists, and bin Laden still has a grudge because the Saudis let in the US troops in '91 instead of bin Laden's Islamic mujahedeen to fight Iraq. Also, he wants to turn it into a strict Islamic state - and what better time than when there's so much anti-American feeling in the region.

Recently there was a discovery of a large weapons cache in Riyadh - and with these bombers around it makes me wonder whether Al-Qaeda will resurface to try a putsch on the Saudi royal family and seize power. I don't think they will be able to - but it's pretty frightening. Let's just hope they don't target the US Navy's Fifth Fleet in Bahrain.

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It's awful of course, but it certainly doesn't come unexpected. The question is only which country will Dubya bomb to pieces in revenge this time. -- Alie, 14:52:20 05/13/03 Tue

With Compassion and Decency, We Can Give All Yet Bush Wants to Cut Taxes for the Wealthy--Again. Tell Congress to Stop Him This Time. -- Mitchell, 06:58:46 05/12/03 Mon

This Ad appeared in the New York Times on May 8. Click here to see a high quality pdf version of it (note, it's a 2mb file. That's big.)

Imagine how you'd feel if you were one of the millions of our fellow citizens who's unemployed in our slowing economy, and President Bush tells you--as he did last week--that on your behalf he wants to slash taxes for the wealthiest Americans. He wants to give the wealthy a tax break to create more jobs for you, the unemployed, while deficits grow leaving the basic needs of our people--like education and healthcare--unmet.

President Bush is undermining the respect, decency, and fairness that are at the heart of greatness in any person or nation. And we are all paying the price. But together we can stop him.

Click the link below to send your free faxes urging your Senators and Representatives to oppose any tax break for the wealthy.
http://www.truemajority.com/index.asp?action=10007&ms=taxad1&ref=266917

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Federal Deficit Could Be Largest Ever -- Drew Greyfox, 18:49:17 05/12/03 Mon

How to kick the US where it really hurts -- Alie, 08:56:00 05/13/03 Tue

War? Just Charge It -- Alie, 09:03:55 05/13/03 Tue

Just How Big Does the World's Biggest War Machine Need to Be? -- Drew Greyfox, 18:55:12 05/12/03 Mon
Halliburton Unit's Bill for Iraq Work Mounts -- Drew Greyfox, 18:57:32 05/12/03 Mon
Bush ally set to profit from the war on terror -- Drew Greyfox, 18:59:39 05/12/03 Mon

well...... -- Eddi, 08:34:59 05/10/03 Sat
..well..hmm wuz so special about this message?
NOTHING! ABSOLUTLY NOTHING!..just would like to
do alittle count down, thats all.

Counting down, 1 hour and 30 mins,
till

I GRADUATE! =)

eddi

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WOOOO HOOOO!! *throws ballooons, confetti and condoms(how'd they get in there?) in the air# Congrats eddi! YOU GO! (NT) -- Kris, 11:44:48 05/10/03 Sat
Yay Eddi...you go girl!!! Don't celebrate too much, you'll need your brain cells for life in the 'real world'..LOL. (NT) -- Greg C., 12:00:29 05/10/03 Sat
Congrats, dude! So if our princess is all grown up, does he become a queen? Singin' WE WILL WE WILL ROCK YOU! Okay, so I'm an 70's child - sue me. (NT) -- Trevor/TJ, 02:49:09 05/11/03 Sun
Congratulations Princess! (NT) -- Markus, 06:14:39 05/11/03 Sun
:::breaks open the champagne:: A toast to Princess Eddi. Salute!! Congrats! (NT) -- Pete, 08:07:49 05/11/03 Sun
Thank you all!!!..hehe thank ya! =) (NT) -- Princessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss, 18:42:38 05/12/03 Mon

Cut and paste news -- Drew Greyfox, 23:34:47 05/11/03 Sun
Before I start with the news I just want to say that I am sorry I have not been more social on the board lately. I've just been posting my news and maybe a comment or two and then running. I've been pretty busy with work and preparing for my big move to Texas. So please accept my belated congratulations to

Lance on completing his CD...I better get one!!

Josie on her job...don't do anything I would do, err wouldn't do hehe

Eddi on his graduation...on to high school, right? hehehe jk

and Luis on his move to California...lucky slut hehe

And now, the news...

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Edwards Makes Impassioned Plea To Gays -- Drew Greyfox, 23:36:48 05/11/03 Sun
Outlaw LGBT Discrimination Or No Membership In EU Euopean Body Says -- Drew Greyfox, 23:38:53 05/11/03 Sun
Australia's Capital Set To Grant Gay Adoption -- Drew Greyfox, 23:40:45 05/11/03 Sun
Repeal Of Anti-Gay Law Has Widespread Support -- Drew Greyfox, 23:41:37 05/11/03 Sun
'Just Shut Up' Canadian Parliamentarian Tells Gays -- Drew Greyfox, 23:44:38 05/11/03 Sun
RNC chairman will meet with "ex-gays" -- Drew Greyfox, 23:49:48 05/11/03 Sun
Cook County, Ill., delays Boy Scout vote -- Drew Greyfox, 23:51:15 05/11/03 Sun
Red Cross criticizes religious groups' responses to HIV/AIDS -- Drew Greyfox, 23:53:27 05/11/03 Sun
DeKalb taps new school board member -- Drew Greyfox, 23:56:27 05/11/03 Sun
From Baghdad to Tehran? -- Drew Greyfox, 00:09:55 05/12/03 Mon
You're moving to Texas?????? Wow.....whoever you're moving in with is a VERY lucky guy! *giggles*smooch* (NT) -- Nick, 00:39:26 05/12/03 Mon

Welcome to Ashcroft's Amerika -- lokisdad, 21:06:51 05/11/03 Sun
Secret Service Questions Students

Posted: May 7, 2003 at 6:18 p.m.
OAKLAND (KRON) -- Some teachers in Oakland are rallying behind two students who were interrogated by the Secret Service. That followed remarks the teenagers made about the President during a class discussion. The incident has many people angry.

For years the classroom has been the setting for the free expression of ideas, but two weeks ago certain ideas led to two students being taken out of class and grilled by the United States Secret Service.

It happened at Oakland High. The discussion was about the war in Iraq. That's when two students made comments about the President of the United States. While the exact wording is up for debate, the teacher didn't consider it mere criticism, but a direct threat and she called the Secret Service.

Teacher Cassie Lopez says, "They were so shaken up and afraid."

Now, other teachers are coming to the aid of the two students and crying foul.

"I would start with the teacher, she made a poor judgement," Lopez says.

Teacher Larry Felson says, "What we're concerned about is academic freedom and that students have the right to free expression in the classroom."

Even worse, they say, is the fact that the students were grilled by federal agents without legal counsel or their parents present, just the principal.

"When one of the students asked, 'do we have to talk now? Can we be silent? Can we get legal council?' they were told, 'we own you, you don't have any legal rights,'" Felson says.

"We don't want federal agents or police coming in our schools and interrogating our children at the whim of someone who has a hunch something might be wrong," Lopez says.

The union representing Oakland teachers requires that students be afforded legal counsel and parental guidance before they're interrogated by authorities. It's too late for the two involved in this incident, and teachers say it's something they'll carry with them for years.

"I tell you the looks on those childrens faces. I don't know if they'll say anything about anything ever again. Is that what we want? I don't think we want that," says Lopez.

(Copyright 2003, KRON 4. All rights reserved.)

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It happened before, we said it would happen again, and now its happening to children. But as long as gas is cheap and the war only kills arab children in some far away country the Amerikan people can rest easy, right? (NT) -- Drew Greyfox, 23:21:02 05/11/03 Sun

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