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Date Posted: 11:45:18 05/14/03 Wed
Author: Dano
Subject: Mary Matalin defends Santorum on Meet the Press, calling him “a wonderful, caring, loving man”. (Are you out there Josh? Take a look - I think you’ll be as disappointed as I was. What has happened to Mary?) -- Transcript inside --
In reply to: Drew Greyfox 's message, "cut and paste news" on 18:52:38 05/13/03 Tue

MR. RUSSERT: Mary, let me turn to the issue of gay Americans. Two hundred gay Republicans met with three White House officials on Friday.
MS. MATALIN: Right.
MR. RUSSERT: As you well know, the Republican Unity Coalition, a group that you’ve spoken to in the past, headed by former President Gerald Ford, had this to say about Senator Santorum of Pennsylvania: “It is flat-out wrong for Senator Santorum to compare homosexual conduct with bigamy, incest, polygamy and adultery. These are false and harmful comparisons that do not distinguish between conduct that is harmful and hurtful to fellow humans and society, and conduct between consenting adults in the sanctity of their own home that harms absolutely no one. ...Senator Santorum owes an apology to gay men and women who support, build and have loving families all across America.” Do you agree with that?
MS. MATALIN: They are parroting what the Democratic interpretation of what Senator Santorum, who’s a wonderful, caring, loving man who spent much of his career helping the poor and the homeless. As a legal matter, this great senator, was parroting the same position that Justice Byron White, a Kennedy appointment took in the ’80s in the Bowers case. As moral matter, he is a devout Catholic, as is my altar boy husband here, and that church teaches that you must love and accept the individual but you cannot accept the act. The act is a sin. They have raised the tolerance bar here. It’s not good enough to say, as the senator said, “I love this person. I accept this person. But my teaching argues against the act.” You now have to reject your religious doctrine—if you want to call anybody a bigot, then you should call Justice Byron White and the pope a bigot because those goals are the prevailing farce that...
MR. CARVILLE: I think it’s the most cockamamy thing in the world. We don’t care if you’re homosexual, you just can’t act on your sexual impulses.
MS. MATALIN: It’s you’re church. It’s you’re church.
MR. CARVILLE: Well, that church is wrong on that.
MS. MATALIN: I don’t disagree with that.
MR. CARVILLE: To tell somebody—I completely...
MS. MATALIN: The church is wrong on that, but you don’t call the pope a bigot.
MR. CARVILLE: I think the pope is wrong. But let me just say this right now.
MS. MATALIN: Is that a bigot? Is he a bigot?
MR. CARVILLE: He’s not—again, Rick Santorum...
MS. MATALIN: That’s what you’re calling Santorum.
MR. CARVILLE: ...is a non-inclusive person. George Bush can tell you about it. I think it’s entirely...
MS. MATALIN: Oh, it’s outrageous.
MR. CARVILLE: Now, wait a minute.
MS. MATALIN: And this president is more inclusive.
MR. CARVILLE: Let me finish this thought. It is entirely cockamamy to say somebody who commits incest is the same as two homosexuals living together and it’s cockamamy to say it’s OK to be a homosexual. We can’t do anything about it.

MR. RUSSERT: Who’s the strongest Democratic nominee in 2004?

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