I have mixed feelings about this. I'm sad that she felt her ED was horrible. I can understand. But Echoe was simply not competitive. Regardless of her self-promoting website and self-described excellence, it was clear from the beginning that she just was not up to the level if many other contestants. Are there valid claims in this? Yes. But I can't help wondering if there is also some over-confidence in play. -- Miss California Unofficial Message Board

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Subject: I have mixed feelings about this. I'm sad that she felt her ED was horrible. I can understand. But Echoe was simply not competitive. Regardless of her self-promoting website and self-described excellence, it was clear from the beginning that she just was not up to the level if many other contestants. Are there valid claims in this? Yes. But I can't help wondering if there is also some over-confidence in play.

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Date Posted: 18:34:49 09/18/13 Wed
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[> [> Subject: I don't think Echoe's point had much, if anything, to do, with how competitive she was. She specifically mentions being fully supportive of Crystal's win. Her point was that her ED didn't support her personal choices in talent, platform and wardrobe, didn't fulfill her financial obligations, and encouraged her to isolate herself from other contestants. As for her competitiveness, see inside...

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Date Posted: 05:43:51 09/19/13 Thu

I do happen to think Echoe was competitive. DC contestants typically get excellent interview training because the DC director (herself a former CA titleholder) has great connections and has people in gov't and academics come in and teach her contestants about current events and communication techniques. I think Echoe is beautiful, was terrific in swimsuit and gown and very personable. As for talent, Echoe's monologue for me was an example of real acting. Monologue talents are highly underrated for their difficulty; a lot of acting we're used to seeing on stage or in movies is reacting to other actors. With a monologue, you don't have anyone else on stage with you. You have to set the scene and the context in a very limited amount of time, and if there is another actor in the scene, you have to act as if they are there, much like what professionals do in special effects movies when they act in front of a green screen. Having not seen interviews, I can't say with any certainty, but Echoe was definitely on my list as a top 15 contender.

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[> [> [> Subject: I agree with Ernie. This had nothing to do with her being competitive.
Author: Someone's trying to distract from the REAL issue....and it is a REAL issue! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:10:53 09/19/13 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]