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Subject: For those of us who couldn't attend, how were the homecoming celebrations this weekend?
Author: Love our Cali girls!! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:36:54 08/05/13 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Where are all the photos from the party?? Social Media doesn't seem to be strong from our new MISS CA?? (NT) -- LEAH & NOELLE always kept us current with appearances., 13:39:38 08/05/13 Mon And more pictures seem to be posted to Crystals personal Instagram instead of her Miss Cali Instagram. (NT) -- We know she's busy but we hope she doesn't poop out., 13:56:12 08/05/13 Mon Get over it. This is the 2nd or 3rd comment about it. If it bothers you so much send her an e-mail or tell Bob...But posting on here isn't going to change the situation of what instagram she uses. Maybe you don't know but it's a pain to log in and log out of different instagrams. She is CRYSTAL LEE- MISS CALIFORNIA. Either one is gaining media for the Miss Cal Oganization. Do something else with your time then check instagram and worry which one she is posting too...lol. -- ., 17:47:54 08/05/13 Mon Too bad Crystal does not share with everyone as Leah did! Leah was wonderful with keeping us all up to date! (NT) -- Shame, 17:55:53 08/05/13 Mon The Official Miss California Facebook is updated pretty regularly., more than it had been in the last couple of years. (NT) -- A few Miss CA contestants posted pics from the Welcome home/Send off to the page too, 20:50:21 08/05/13 Mon Follow @MissCAOrg on twitter, that's also updated regularly (NT) -- Crystal is doing a fine job at updating her fans. I feel pretty informed. It's not only about IG, 20:58:57 08/05/13 Mon Agree with the poster above, Crystal does just the right amount without sounding like forced promotion of the sponsors. (NT) -- ., 07:17:50 08/06/13 Tue If we had some kind of press/media person active in the state Org, I don't think it would be quite so incumbent on Crystal to keep us up to speed. That being said, I do wish there was a bit more of an update coming from her. (NT) -- ..., 08:43:29 08/06/13 Tue Are you not on Social Media followinfg Miss CA Org? There are updates everyday! I hopped on FB and IG this morning and was well informed that Crystal and Lauren Smolka are off to ATL for the Jovani fashion show (NT) -- Crsytal is doing a great job! I do agree there should be a PR person heading up all communication activity for all of MCO, 08:55:49 08/06/13 Tue For you complaining that Instagram is not updated, the MissCAOrg Instagram has had 76 posts since Crystal became our Miss CA. Before then, there were only 61 posts. I would say Crystal is doing an exceptional job at keeping the MissCAOrg Instagram updated to keep her fans informed. Yes she updates and posts on her personal accounts too. That is normal. Here two predecessors did the same. Now, can we just be happy and support our Miss CA! (NT) -- !!, 09:06:42 08/06/13 Tue Only Leah can do social media. Didn't you know that? Leah is the best ever. No one can ever compare to her. (NT) -- OK?, 06:01:48 08/07/13 Wed oh shutup! don't put down Leah's fans. i'm a fan of Leah big time and i think Crystal is doing fine. remember, Crystal has way less time prepping for MA than Leah or Noelle had. Crystal is going non-stop and extremely busy right now. lets be grateful for what she is posting in between all the events she is squeezing in. i'm sure she will flood us with posts after MA IF she doesn't win because then she will be doing lots of Calif events and travel. (NT) -- Besides i think Mary has taken over the PR position too because Crystal is so swamped., 20:15:43 08/08/13 Thu Everyone loves Crystal. As a big time fan of Leah, you just have to accept that. (NT) -- k, 08:54:44 08/09/13 Fri Okay I was told this was on here and I'm taking a chance even posting on this board AND signing my name to it. Crystal is my friend and I'm appalled about how you are putting our Miss CA down, and why? Over social media? Crystal is doing exactly what she should be doing and I admire her for the time she is putting in considering the little time she has to prepare for Miss America. We should be so glad she's having fun as well as promoting MCO's brand so beautifully & professionally. The nit-picks on this board are ridiculous. (NT) -- Leah Cecil - over and out, 08:11:43 08/10/13 Sat Leah, who is questioning your friendship with Crystal? What an odd post. But since we now know you come on here, you could clear up a debate that has been going on here for over a year. What is up with your relationship with Noelle? While no one has questioned your relationship with Crystal, the same can't be said for Noelle. (NT) -- what readers what to know., 00:13:52 08/12/13 Mon I don't think she's saying that anyone is questioning their friendship. I read her post as a statement that Crystal is her friend, and, therefore, she is defending her and supporting her actions. Stop trying to create drama for your own entertainment. Get off your computer and go do something positive. (NT) -- No need to be a busy body, 07:41:59 08/12/13 Mon I agree! And if anyone should relate to being criticised for stupid things, its a former! I respect Leah's opinion and think its good in this case. We should be supportive for anything our titleholders whenever they do it. Thanks Leah! You were a great example for all of our girls! (NT) -- I hope you will come on here and share your up-coming wedding pictures with us! Lots of love, your CA fans, 15:50:52 08/13/13 Tue Dear "what readers what to know," please try to keep up hon and read the entire thread before making your nonsensical posts using a nonsensical name responding to one post in the thread. (NT) -- Put down the MD 20/20 and go eat a pork rind. You will feel better., 17:35:23 08/12/13 Mon Bob is telling everyone in Orlando that he thinks CA can win Miss A. He wasn't saying that last year (NT) -- He is on Team Crystal, 08:01:02 08/15/13 Thu Bob was on team Leah but we are all sure Crystal will win! (NT) -- !, 08:37:08 08/15/13 Thu Bob says this about his girl every year! Thank God we have CAL staff that supports and believes in their titleholder unlike some states! (NT) -- We love our girls!, 09:59:03 08/15/13 Thu I believe this is the strongest he has felt strongly about Miss CA in many years. He will tell you that! (NT) -- Truth!!, 10:51:37 08/15/13 Thu Believing? That's sweet. (NT) -- I have a great feeling she's gonna do great too, but believing things about Bob is weird, 12:41:29 08/15/13 Thu Leah should be ashamed for trying to make it seem like everyone is attacking Crystal. Not true and not needed. (NT) -- shameful, 03:25:02 08/20/13 Tue Shameful to stick up for the efforts of a friend? I think it's nice she supports Crystal like we all should support Crystal by not criticizing how many posts she makes or doesn't. That was the point. (NT) -- Take a Valium, 21:02:27 08/20/13 Tue You obviously didn't read her post. She is appalled that you're putting crystal down over social media. That's all. (NT) -- quit putting Leah down for standing up for her friend., 07:50:14 08/21/13 Wed Re: For those of us who couldn't attend, how were the homecoming celebrations this weekend? (NT) -- go Crystal, 18:50:55 08/20/13 Tue

Subject: Is there a going away party for Crystal planned yet?
Author: excited [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 09:43:40 08/18/13 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Yes and the invitations are junky! Come on, Kathi Baldwin, if you want to take over this program (even tho no one will allow it), you should put more class in the invitations just as you try to force it on our Miss CA's... (NT) -- Get out of there, Crystal!, 15:43:19 08/18/13 Sun Wow, bitter much? I'm thrilled to be invited to Kathi's home for the party. If you are that insulting, hopefully you have declined the invitation and won't take your hypocritical self to her home. (NT) -- so excited for Crystal. why so much negativity?, 16:03:44 08/18/13 Sun TOO much negative back stabbing, two faced people in this program! (NT) -- !!!, 16:27:47 08/18/13 Sun Very tacky invitations! And she prides herself on being so "white glove" classy quality leader? (NT) -- Eww, 21:10:38 08/18/13 Sun The party needs to be somewhere else like at a city's community center so more people can attend and Baldwin can't use the excuse "my house isn't big enough for more than 20 people". There are lots of people who want to support Miss Ca not just the Baldwins and the elite few. (NT) -- Could be nicer if it wasn't so exclusive., 21:19:28 08/18/13 Sun Just more jealous posters!! Baldwins are wonderful people, Of course their home will be open to more than 20 people! Obviously won't include you (thank goodness). You are not in charge, so relax, Crystal will enjoy a beautiful party in a beautiful loving gorgeous home!!! Knock off your negative ugly posts, your type of volunteer is not needed on this organization!!! (NT) -- Jealous jealous!!!!!, 23:12:25 08/18/13 Sun Re: Is there a going away party for Crystal planned yet? (NT) -- Sad that all title holders and Teen cant come. Can she have 2 parties? Maybe use one in a large hall as a fund raiser pay$ 5.00 or whatever ? I didnt relize it wasnt' open to the public:(, 04:05:21 08/19/13 Mon Titleholders are invited, those close to Crystal. (NT) -- Party!!!!!, 04:16:06 08/19/13 Mon Baldwin has a very controlled list of only certain EDs, titleholders, and staff. It's all up to the approval of herself, not the Miss Ca. We'd all like to support her and it would be great to have it be somewhere else where we could all support her. I like the idea of charging $ for her platform. (NT) -- Why give that woman so much power she's quite a problem that needs to be fixed., 05:51:16 08/19/13 Mon Why is she being referred to as "Baldwin"? (NT) -- No one else is called by their last name only..., 09:01:21 08/19/13 Mon Traditionally the homecoming has been the "public" event. The send off has always been a smaller gathering of invited guests. (NT) -- Been that way as long as I can remember, 06:31:05 08/19/13 Mon Re: Is there a going away party for Crystal planned yet? (NT) -- Cant wait !, 03:25:04 08/20/13 Tue Re: Is there a going away party for Crystal planned yet? (NT) -- It sounds really nice., 16:35:46 08/20/13 Tue Re: Is there a going away party for Crystal planned yet? (NT) -- great fundraiser idea, 07:36:50 08/21/13 Wed

Subject: If you didn't get to watch Annie on Wipeout you really missed out.
Author: She was beyond amazing! Even though she was the "Georgia Peach" I am still proud to call her our California girl even if it was for such a short time! She was so close to winning! It was a real nail biter at the end. [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:08:37 08/17/13 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I wish I knew when it was airing. MCO should have posted about it on their Social Media pages. (NT) -- Too bad, 22:18:27 08/17/13 Sat Re: If you didn't get to watch Annie on Wipeout you really missed out. (NT) -- Can we see it on you tube?, 03:30:26 08/20/13 Tue You can buy it on itunes for $2.99! (NT) -- Bought it and loved it lol, 07:18:25 08/20/13 Tue It's also on Hulu. Annie was awesome, I really though she was going I win. You can also catch a glimpse of Kari Volen in the beginning. (NT) -- Love to see our girls represent, 13:15:01 08/20/13 Tue Re: If you didn't get to watch Annie on Wipeout you really missed out. (NT) -- We have to ck it out, 16:23:05 08/20/13 Tue

Subject: Removed message
Author: Marge the Moderator [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:03:00 08/19/13 Mon I removed the entire thread about Crystal being bashed on the national message board. When I looked at that board today, it was filled with predictions, top 15 lists, etc., and while people may not have liked her makeup or some of her wardrobe choices or her video, at the end of the day, when it came to selecting who they thought were the primary contenders for Miss America 2014, virtually every list includes Crystal. Not that these lists truly mean anything, but it is an indication that pageant fans from the rest of the country see in Crystal what California sees in Crystal - a wonderful, dynamic, beautiful, talented young woman. So I didn't see any point in focusing any more time or space on the bashing of the past. Look forward to an amazing Miss America pageant! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Marge - You're the best! (NT) -- L Dash, 15:42:31 08/19/13 Mon Re: Removed message (NT) -- Good job, 03:28:48 08/20/13 Tue I bet this year CA has a huge delegation at Miss America (NT) -- will be there!, 10:39:22 08/20/13 Tue

Subject: Super excited to follow Crystal at Miss America
Author: Crystal fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 09:17:02 08/18/13 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Re: Super excited to follow Crystal at Miss America (NT) -- Counting the days!, 03:33:41 08/20/13 Tue

Subject: Any word from Orlando?? How are prelims going?
Author: Go Cali Go! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:40:12 08/15/13 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Updates posted on the Miss CA Outstanding Teen Facebook (NT) -- Pictures posted there too!, 08:19:22 08/16/13 Fri Yes, the FB posts are great & pics too! I guess I'm looking for a little more detail & insight from people who are there watching the competition. (NT) -- Thanks, 08:34:42 08/16/13 Fri Re: Any word from Orlando?? How are prelims going? -- Teen Fan, 11:57:54 08/16/13 Fri No competition tonight. Today the contestants enjoyed a fun-filled day at Sea World. Tonight is the Evening of Stars Extravaganza Dinner and Show. The program says a TOP 10 will be announced, in addition to the 2 People�s Choice. But there are always surprises at MAOT. Look forward to what the next two days have in store for our MCOT. (NT) -- Go Team CA!, 13:31:28 08/16/13 Fri No California in MAOTeen finals (NT) -- Dumb Judges, 12:44:22 08/17/13 Sat New MAOT Florida (NT) -- Winner, 14:35:55 08/17/13 Sat

Subject: Good Luck Mikaela at MAOT!
Author: Fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:25:32 08/10/13 Sat Please can you keep us posted on the competition. Would love to see Mikaela in action! Please post a few pictures during the week please. Does anyone have the address for good luck cards? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Pics and notes will be uploaded to the Official MCOT Facebook page. Please follow Mikaela there. Thank you for supporting her! The address for notes/gifts is also on that page. Thank you! :) -- Kati Enea, 19:57:49 08/10/13 Sat Re: Good Luck Mikaela at MAOT! -- Teen Fan, 17:54:39 08/12/13 Mon (NT) -- fan, 18:24:40 08/12/13 Mon

Subject: With an organization as large as ours, there's no reason our California girl Katie shouldn't be in first place in the Reign Beauty campaign! Make sure you're voting for her every day!!
Author: LOVE KATIE! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:42:57 08/09/13 Fri https://www.facebook.com/reignbeauty?sk=app_303561899745219&app_data=from-3vf6t4 [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Katie took the lead today! Keep up the voting! (NT) -- Ernie, 19:55:06 08/11/13 Sun

Subject: A repost of a repost

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Date Posted: 06:02:22 08/10/13 Sat

This was originally posted on the Miss Ohio message board and then ended up on the Guru board. I think the words are very appropriate for this message board as well.

Cyberbullying: the electronic posting of mean-spirited messages about a person, often done anonymously...

One would think that as people mature and progress through life, that they would stop behaviors of their youth. Unfortunately, this is not always the case. Adult bullying exists!! The goal of an adult bully is to gain power over another person, and make himself or HERSELF the dominant adult. They try to humiliate victims.

This site is called the unofficial/official Miss Ohio voyforum . What a slap in the face to the Miss Ohio Program!!! Most of what is written on this site is trash!... Posting negative and mean-spirited comments about young women and adults. Granted there are positive postings and comments but a majority of what goes up is just another way to bully others. I believe a few of the young ladies have this as their platform. Maybe you should remove yourself from your computer and talk to one of these women. They might be able to help you with this disease you have! Spewing out hateful and malicious comments online.
This forum could be positive! I challenge all who post on this site to put up unambiguous, encouraging remarks. We have wonderful women competing in locals and a remarkable phenom going to Miss America! Make it about them. This is called the Miss Ohio forum!! Not the unsigned refuse dump! You can start another blog for that!

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Subject: Vote for Katie Wayland
Author: Congrats, Katie! :) [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:03:55 08/08/13 Thu Katie Wayland has been chosen as a Top 4 finalist to become the face of R.E.I.G.N. Cosmetics. Follow this link to vote for her every day! https://www.facebook.com/reignbeauty?sk=app_303561899745219&app_data=from-3vf6t4 Congratulations, Katie! What a wonderful way to represent MCO! :) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Her face is so beautiful!!!!! (NT) -- !!!!, 08:48:12 08/08/13 Thu Simply gorgeous!!!! (NT) -- --, 16:51:58 08/08/13 Thu

Subject: CORRI WELLINS PRELIMINARY JUDGE FOR MA!!!!!
Author: Great news! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:51:41 08/08/13 Thu Great to hear former contestant, and 1st runner up to Miss CA., (SHOULD HAVE WON MISS CA), will be a preliminary judge at Miss America! She is a great success story and adorable lady! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Hosted by Movement Reality Series ONcE in a W"I"fetime & Johnathan Kayne as seen on Lifetime Television's Project Runway All-Stars
Author: Win the opportunity to model for Johnathan Kayne [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 09:50:24 08/08/13 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Raquel Fatiuk is running for Miss Texas USA
Author: click in... [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:32:01 07/29/13 Mon http://www.misstexasusa.com/miss-contestants/2014-miss/index.html [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Wishing her the best of luck! (meaning this in a nice way) (NT) -- She is beautiful. Too bad they don't have a talent portion. 110 girls is a lot of girls!, 10:13:49 07/29/13 Mon I wish her all the best but isn't this against the rules? She still has another 6 months as a closed local titleholder. Doesn't seem like she's holding up the other half of the commitment. It's one thing to compete in another MAO local a month or two before you give up your local title, but jumping ship to MUO doesn't seem right to me. (NT) -- Former, 10:14:10 07/30/13 Tue Maybe she gave up her local title? I can't imagine she would be sneaky about it. I hope she cleared it all with her ED. (NT) -- ., 13:23:54 07/30/13 Tue Just curious here, but how can a girl who competed at Miss CA a month go be eligible to compete in TX-USA so quickly? Does she live in one state and attend school in another? Interested in how this works. (NT) -- thanks, 14:10:38 07/30/13 Tue Re: Just curious here, but how can a girl who competed at Miss CA a month go be eligible to compete in TX-USA so quickly? Does she live in one state and attend school in another? Interested in how this works. (NT) -- Top 15 for the wrong reasons (Lopsided n now her head is big), 16:40:23 07/31/13 Wed Re: Just curious here, but how can a girl who competed at Miss CA a month go be eligible to compete in TX-USA so quickly? Does she live in one state and attend school in another? Interested in how this works. -- Anonymous, 17:22:57 08/02/13 Fri Oh I didn't mean there was a problem, but how does a girl establish residency in another state so quickly? Does she live in CA and attend school in TX, or vice versa? (NT) -- just curious is all, 08:19:48 08/04/13 Sun If you read below. She answered your question. (NT) -- Open your eyes, 06:31:54 08/05/13 Mon Hateful much? (NT) -- No wonder California pageant people have such horrible reputations, 16:24:12 08/07/13 Wed How is that hateful? They were just letting them know that she answered the question. (NT) -- :), 05:20:45 08/08/13 Thu Cut the girl some slack. She is beautiful, talented, and a well rounded person. If anything we should be proud that she came from the MCO and encourage her to pursue new endevors. (NT) -- Lighten up people, 07:43:57 08/03/13 Sat Re: Raquel Fatiuk is running for Miss Texas USA -- Raquel (Just to silence the gossiping!), 10:10:14 08/03/13 Sat Lol OLD! Good luck, Rachel! You were amazing at MC! The only thing I wish was that the whole country could have heard you sing on the final night. You are beautiful and talented and you will do great in USA. Best of luck to you! (NT) -- --a fan., 10:17:43 08/03/13 Sat I love it when the source of gossip comes on a board to set things straight--only way to do it. And best of luck at Miss Texas-USA!! (NT) -- very cool, 08:21:44 08/04/13 Sun We love you Raquel! You'll do great is Miss Texas USA. (NT) -- You go girl!, 10:15:25 08/05/13 Mon

Subject: On a separate note...
Author: Marge the Moderator [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:45:58 08/03/13 Sat WOULD IT KILL YOU PEOPLE TO POST SOMETHING POSITIVE ON HERE EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE? There seems to be one person who posts positive things and people tend to respond positively to them, but that's one person in the entire state. Surely there's something going on of a positive nature. Yes, I realize everything isn't hunky dory and there are issues, but too often when they are discussed they turn into personal attacks on people, and almost all of you are anonymous, so there's no way these personal disagreements can be resolved. When the attacks get mean, that's when the posts get removed. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I totally agree Marge! When I visit the boards from the other states they are all so positive and supportive. Sometimes they say to go to the California board to look at the latest fight. It's so embarrassing! (NT) -- Like my father always told me-If you can't say something nice then don't say anything at all. There IS a reason why these old sayings are still around., 15:03:24 08/03/13 Sat We LOVE Crystal and can't wait to see her crowned our next Miss America!! (NT) -- She's the real deal!, 19:44:56 08/03/13 Sat BUMP (NT) -- --, 20:16:50 08/06/13 Tue

Subject: Farewell to the "Graduates" of 2013
Author: Ernie Koneck [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:49:04 07/08/13 Mon I've been waiting and waiting for someone to post something positive but I got tired of waiting so here goes. A Brief Tribute to the 2013 Contestants who have Aged Out (Let me know if anyone has been left out inadvertently or included by mistake). Also, since we have already heard Laura Berger's parting shot and the endless analysis of it, I've chosen to focus on all the OTHER girls that we'll miss in the future. Echoe Malone (City of Inglewood): A lot of pageant fans look down on monologues as if they weren't a "real" talent. But when they're performed by a real actress, they most certainly are. And Echoe is the real deal. She is also gorgeous, smart, articulate and extremely elegant, and I hope to see her on a red carpet someday - whether it's for a Tony Award, an Emmy or an Oscar, I don't care. I wish her all the luck in the world in one of the most competitive fields out there. Katy Tang (Culver City): Some of you may not remember, but Katy was Arianna's 1st runner-up in the Outstanding Teen pageant in 2005. She took a long vacation from pageants, re-emerged last year, and soared all the way to 2nd runner-up and a prelim talent award this year. What I discovered about her this year was her delightful personality and a terrific sense of humor. Whatever her future has in store, I'm sure it will be very bright. Raquel Fatiuk (Golden Gate): A truly remarkable talent that will be long remembered in the same vein as Angel Blue and Jacquelynne Fontaine. Raquel is not just a voice, however. She is a truly stunning, elegant presence on stage and a unique, interesting person. At the Gala, she said she wished she had discovered MCO sooner. I'm sure the audience agrees. As she embarks on her professional opera career, I have complete confidence that we'll be hearing much more from her in the future. Lauren Smolka (Hollywood): For may people, the first word that might come to mind when describing Lauren is "gorgeous." And she certainly is. For me, the first word I think of is "kindness." I've sat in on or judged many of Lauren's pageant interviews and mocks, and that is the quality that always shines through. One of the funniest things about her is how often she has been cast "against type" in regional theater productions, playing everyone from the Wicked Witch of the West in "The Wizard of Oz" to Amber Von Tussle in "Hairspray." Clearly, this girl can act! Look out Broadway and Hollywood (the industry town, not the pageant) - Lauren is ready to charm her way into your hearts. Megan Wisler (Orange County) - Another dazzling beauty who has the unique ability to make everything she does on stage look effortless. She reached new heights in every area of competition this year, and I can hardly wait to find out how many more languages she can sing in. Personally, I can't wait for the Portuguese-Hebrew-Bengali-Urdu number she's planning for her farewell. OK, I made that up, but wouldn't it be funny if she took it as a challenge and actually did it? I would never bet against this girl; I think she can do anything she sets her mind to. Ashley Newman (Sacramento County) - A truly dazzling newcomer who works as a teacher - in a juvenile detention facility. Her talent was fabulous, her wardrobe was great and she dynamic stage presence. Ashley certainly proved to be one of the outstanding "rookies" of the year. Word is that she has seven - yes, seven - job offers to choose from, which means once she makes her final choice, and they fill the rest of the positions she was offered, she will have singlehandedly reduced the state's unemployment rate by 0.3% Thanks, Ashley! Christina Alcaraz (Sierra Nevada) - As a judge at the first local she ever won, I've been following Chrissy's pageant career ever since. In the next edition of the dictionary, they may use her picture to illustrate hard work and perseverance, never more so than this past 2 years. She has always been a contestant in search of the right song, and this year she found it in "I Dreamed A Dream." She also was instrumental in introducing Lorna Jane to the MCO. WHile the final outcome may not have been all she hoped for, the journey proved to be nothing short of spectacular. Courtney Trouten (South Counties) - Another incredible hard worker who faced the challenge of an ankle injury (less than ideal for a ballet en pointe dancer), not to mention a challenging full-time job. Nonetheless, Courtney gave her preparation her all and delivered on all counts. I think of her as genuine, funny, down-to-earth and completely committed to everything she attempts. Her self-confidence grew by leaps and bounds this year, and that, more than anything, may be the most important pageant legacy any contestant could hope for. The sky's the limit! Annie Wilson (Southland) - Georgia's loss was California's gain, as the fierce and fabulous Annie Wilson hit the stage every night at Miss CA. From her soulful, jazzy vocal performance, to her commanding confidence and gorgeous smile in swimsuit and evening wear, Annie looked every part the star. And to think that all came about while she was finishing her master's degree in Industrial Organizational Psychology! Say that fast 3 times. Annie planes to pursue her Ph.D. in that field and work as a consultant to large corporations looking for ways to identify problems in their work environment and fix them. So someday in the future, if your job suddenly gets more enjoyable, you may have Annie, or someone like her, to thank. Congratulations to all of our pageant "grads". You have all contributed to the Miss California program in your own unique way, whether you competed for one year or several. I think I speak for many people when I say you will be missed. And one final farewell - to Miss California 2012 Leah Cecil, who found new and ever more creative ways to be a state titleholder and in the process practically redefined the job and set the bar ever higher for Crystal and those to follow. While the Miss America judges didn't see it, everyone in California certainly sees that you are one of a kind, and very, very special. Fortunately, you will be back next year in charge of the Duke of Edinburgh program, so we don't truly have to say goodbye. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Ernie, you are fabulous, as are ALL of these ladies! Brava, girls! (NT) -- <3, 04:37:48 07/09/13 Tue bump (NT) -- bump, 05:26:59 07/09/13 Tue Ernie, can you just take over the program when it's needed? PLEASE??? (NT) -- There will be a revolution!!!, 05:34:24 07/09/13 Tue Ernie: Thank you so much. Wonderful! (NT) -- Love the positive, 08:05:26 07/09/13 Tue Ernie, this was very nice. I agree with you 100% on Raquel Fatiuk. It would have been great had she begun around 19-20 instead of 24 with the program. She had all the makings of a potential Miss America. One of the reasons I believe the age should be to 26. Many girls are contionuing their education to obtain masters Degrees, or in between an education may have to take time off to work. It only makes sense that this should be considered by the MAO. (NT) -- Frank Lameira, 09:26:42 07/09/13 Tue LOVE your posts, Frank! Feel free to keep sending us any ladies who'd make great contenders for that Miss America crown! (NT) -- <3, 09:30:20 07/09/13 Tue I certainly will. I've got a lovely former who is a pianist. I hope to speak with her very soon. I believe in the Miss America Program. Although our Miss Teenage California Pageant does not have a talent or platform requirement, we are all about scholarships and providing a postive competition at the same time. All the best to you Ernie. You have been a credit to the Miss America Organization. (NT) -- Frank Lameira, 10:28:30 07/09/13 Tue Only posting because you asked if anyone was left out and I could be wrong but weren't Prisca Shiralian, Millie grgas, Anna Lisa matias, any others? Like I said I could be wrong (NT) -- ?, 10:58:23 07/09/13 Tue I know for a fact Millie has one more year. Not sure about the other two. (NT) -- :), 11:38:10 07/09/13 Tue There were several 23 year olds this year, and unless you know their birthday or you know them personally or asked them, it's hard to know which ones can come back and which ones can't. I knew Millie had another year, and I'm pretty sure Prisca does as well. Honestly don't know either way about Anna Lisa. Also, I'm pretty sure Stephanie Patterson, another 23 year old, does have one more year to compete. (NT) -- Ernie, 13:20:59 07/09/13 Tue This was Prisca Shiralian's last year. She was born in 1989. Not sure about Anna Lisa Mattias (NT) -- Tom Moletteire, 05:18:26 07/10/13 Wed Great tributes Ernie! (NT) -- Lovely girls definitely making the world a better place., 13:08:44 07/09/13 Tue Bump (NT) -- This is an honest, heartfelt, and beautiful tribute to these hard working California girls! Wanted to move it to the top! :)), 03:49:09 07/10/13 Wed Re: Farewell to the "Graduates" of 2013 -- Cindy Masidonio, 11:33:40 07/10/13 Wed This is great! (NT) -- val, 17:50:12 07/15/13 Mon Sad to see many beautiful girls inside and out go. Great tributes! (NT) -- ., 19:15:46 07/17/13 Wed Re: Farewell to the "Graduates" of 2013 -- Teen Fan, 16:20:37 07/22/13 Mon Re: Farewell to the "Graduates" of 2013 -- pageant fan, 06:54:46 07/30/13 Tue A nineteen yo is not a teen. She is in her second year of college, has already voted, and is not in touch with teen issues (going to prom, etc). She has more physically and common with a 23-year-old young woman then with a 14-year-old girl who may not have menstruated yet. (NT) -- Extend the age of Miss but not teen., 08:15:32 07/30/13 Tue Question: Although Katy Tang aged out, she still could have competed at National Sweetheart. Why isn't she going to compete? (NT) -- Please be nice - both Jordan and Katy are great contestants., 22:33:22 08/05/13 Mon Because MCO sponsors our girl at Sweetheart, they have some say in who represents us. It is a longstanding rule in California, that an aging out runner up gets passed up for someone who still has time left to compete. The reasoning being that Sweetheart is meant to be a learning experience for the girl to use in future years of preparation and competition. (NT) -- Former, 04:01:24 08/06/13 Tue Re: Farewell to the "Graduates" of 2013 -- Raquel Fatiuk, 13:00:48 08/06/13 Tue

Subject: MCO 2013 DVDs :)
Author: MCO Fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:07:24 07/25/13 Thu We received our DVDs yesterday and really enjoyed re-watching the show. Such a great job by Southwest video and extremely fast delivery. Our local video people take months to get our dvd's sent. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I'm thankful that Jim Monte provides this service for us. I can't wait to see our video that we ordered too. (NT) -- Thanks Jim!, 10:37:50 07/25/13 Thu Haven't watched them yet, but I really like the new packaging this year - much easier to get the individual discs in and out of the case. (NT) -- Ernie, 12:07:13 07/25/13 Thu They always do a nice job. Professional. (NT) -- Ken, 17:10:21 07/25/13 Thu Re: MCO 2013 DVDs :) (NT) -- catalina, 17:18:28 07/25/13 Thu Is anyone else having trouble with the Tuesday night dvd? Jim sent me two so far and neither one of them work but the rest of the week works fine. I hate to keep bothering him. The same thing happened last year with one of the nights but the replacement dvd worked. Don't know what to do. (NT) -- I am playing it on Macs btw. I wonder if that makes a difference but not with Wed-Sat?????, 08:56:56 08/03/13 Sat Never play it on MAC. GEEZ! That's the worse. (NT) -- ww, 12:06:41 08/03/13 Sat LOL! Ok played on the PC and it only played the swimsuit so now I'm emailing Jim. (NT) -- Dying to watch Tuesday but it will have to wait., 15:14:47 08/03/13 Sat

Subject: Happy Birthday
Author: :) [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 05:10:17 08/02/13 Fri HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO CRYSTAL LEE! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Happy Belated Birthday Miss California! (NT) -- Fan, 06:25:09 08/03/13 Sat

Subject: Age requirements
Author: :) [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:01:37 07/30/13 Tue Do you think they will ever change the age requirements to Teens being to age 19 and increasing the Miss age? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Unlikely. (NT) -- ..., 08:09:44 07/30/13 Tue

Subject: Who is this great interview coach? Maybe some other girls could hire him.
Author: Please tell us his name (or her name ;)) [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:02:45 07/28/13 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Not looking good on the lottery for CA placement!
Author: Me [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:57:00 07/22/13 Mon OH NO!!!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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HI and CA back to back! (NT) -- wow, 13:16:58 07/22/13 Mon 2nd out in talent on Tuesday night???!!! (NT) -- Shame, 13:29:55 07/22/13 Mon Laura Keppler was 1st out on Tue & she won prelim talent as well as the title. I'm sure they will have no trouble finding Crystal, she's simply too special to miss. (NT) -- Not worried, 13:52:07 07/22/13 Mon Anyone else annoyed that a contestant with our contestants same name would plop herself right before our contestant? (NT) -- So ignorant, 13:29:19 07/22/13 Mon Hard to believe that Hawaii would choose that placement. I don't know anything about Miss Hawaii but I do know Miss California will be hard to beat! Maybe they are hoping the judges will mix up the scores?? Will the REAL Crystal Lee stand up(and get crowned)!!! (NT) -- Could happen, 13:15:57 07/24/13 Wed Its gonna be fine! (NT) -- Dont worry!, 13:51:14 07/22/13 Mon The name same is no big deal but bad placement! (NT) -- Nope, 14:10:57 07/22/13 Mon Everyone and I mean everyone on the guru board has our Crystal in the top 5 with Crystal either winning or coming in as 1st runner up. If that means anything at all then California might have its next Miss America! (NT) -- I am so excited and can't wait until September! Go Crystal we love you!, 14:27:46 07/22/13 Mon TOP 5 for sure!!!! WIN WIN WIN!!! (NT) -- WINWINWINWINWINWIN!, 15:37:14 07/22/13 Mon For interview, Crystal's placement is ideal. The judges will have just had lunch and will be feeling fresh. But it is not too far after lunch that they will feel like taking a nap. Additionally, they will have had a chance to gel as a panel since they will have completed the Mu group interviews. The order of competition for the Alpha group is similar to the order of competition for Crystal at Miss California. Two of the last 4 Misses America came from Alpha and both were early in the line up. It is a fallacy that going first or toward the beginning hurts a contestant's chances. Winners come from all over the line up yet there appears to be a slight advantage to going early. My guess is that a girl that is toward the beginning is less likely to get trumped by a stronger contestant ahead of her. Alabama had its strongest track record at Miss America when the contestants were presented alphabetically by title to the judges. Wyoming did not fare so well. (NT) -- Tom Moletteire, 06:17:45 07/23/13 Tue Wyoming has never "fared" well until last year, and Gaspar put her together! (NT) -- Fact, 06:25:01 07/23/13 Tue Re: Wyoming has never "fared" well until last year, and Gaspar put her together! (NT) -- !!!!!!!!, 06:40:45 07/23/13 Tue Wish California could afford Gaspar! Nice to send Crystal to Miss A with all she needs! (NT) -- Wish up on star!, 07:09:27 07/23/13 Tue I think Crystal still has a very good chance of picking up the preliminary talent award. The closest competitors might be Arkansas, or perhaps, Michigan, who as the second to last performer, might bring down the house with her baton routine. (NT) -- Crystal Fan, 08:14:03 07/23/13 Tue Whay does Gaspar charge?? (NT) -- ??, 08:58:08 07/23/13 Tue I asked a few years ago and he charged $3000 for Miss America week hair and makeup, airfare and hotel expenses. ANd if you want to see the difference he makes, look at Caressa Cameron during the prelims in 2010, compared to final night (or any time during her year as Miss America.) The difference is night and day. (NT) -- Ernie, 17:32:48 07/23/13 Tue That is a lot of $$$!!! Let's see how Miss NY does at Miss America! His gown was beautiful! (NT) -- !!, 17:49:32 07/23/13 Tue Caressa often looked a mess throughout her year and looked absolutely horrid when she returned the following year to pass the crown. I often thought �she beat Kristy?� (NT) -- ???, 09:01:20 07/24/13 Wed Still bitter about Caressa. Kristy had horrible make up at Miss America. Her face was pale compare to her body. (NT) -- ., 09:25:25 07/26/13 Fri I'l do my own hair and make up and invest $3,000 to a better cause. (NT) -- GEEZ, 07:34:25 07/26/13 Fri No way. The placement couldn't be more perfect. If the two Crystals were too far away in contestant order there would be a greater chance of confusing the two. Out of sight out of mind until the second Crystal comes out on stage = possibility of a mix up when it comes down to the wire. Being back-to-back will pretty much guarantee there will be no confusion. There will a be a clear distinction between the two. -- --, 17:52:02 07/25/13 Thu

Subject: "Rookies" Of The Year
Author: Ernie Koneck [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:16:35 07/18/13 Thu So who were your favorite newcomers to the Miss California stage this year? My list includes first time contestants and contestants making the transition from Outstanding Teen to Miss for the first time. (I'm leaving out a couple of first timers who aged out - Echoe Malone, Ashley Newman and Raquel Fatiuk - who are awesome, but I talked about them in the "Graduates" post.) Ariel Ramirez (Blythe) - Very spunky, fun personality. Very good talent. Nice wardrobe. Lots of potential here. Tayler Wolfe (Central Coast) - Really liked her talent. Very pretty face. Good swimsuit. Should definitely keep trying. Jenny Tarmey (Clovis) - Very good singer. Made a lot of progress on swimsuit from local to state. Pretty face, needs some hair help. Again, one with lots of potential. Ashley Dennis (Covina) - Wow! Beautiful girl, terrific swimsuit figure. Strong talent. Wasn't at all surprised to see her in the top 12. Definitely deserved it. Aimee Le (Fountain Valley) - Gorgeous, had a couple of rough spots in talent, but clearly a very good pianist. If she's not headed off to med school in another state, I'd love to see her try again. Salisha Thomas (Fullerton) - Possibly my single favorite talent of the pageant. Great personality. If she's not on Broadway next year, maybe she'll come back to Miss CA. Aysia Pennell (Ladera Heights) - Hysterical monologue. Pretty girl. Good swimsuit. I like her a lot. Paige Shaw (Marin County) - One of last year's standout Teens made the transition to Miss seamlessly, with a NFT, good swimsuit and gown. She's off to Princeton, so who knows? Maybe she'll be Miss New Jersey? Kimberly Bebo (National Orange Show) - It may have taken her 9 tries to win a local, but she obviously learned a lot and improved a lot along the way. Her talent was her best ever, and her gown and swimsuit were pretty terrific too. Bet she was pretty close to the top 15. I know she'll be back. Jillian Smith (Northern California Regional) - Very good talent, and from what I've been told, excellent interview too. I just see her getting better and better as time goes by. Kelsey Schwarz (San Diego) - Terrific in swimsuit and gown, and her talent performance was very pretty. One to watch in the next few years. Adrienne Berry (San Fernando Valley) - Am I prejudiced just because she was my Teen titleholder in 2011? Possibly, but I think there's no denying her talent, swimsuit, stage presence and one of the very few on-stage questions I can recall as being really good. She's all grown up now. Heidi Cheung (San Francisco) - Terrific pianist, very good in swimsuit and gown and so cute. ANother one with a very bright future. MacKenzie Freed (San Joaquin County) - Really dynamite on stage. Swimsuit and gown were awesome. Talent was good, and will only get better. Definitely a major contender in the future. Molly Crawford (Santa Clara) - Looked really good in swimsuit and gown, and her talent was extremely strong. Seems like she has matured a lot since her Teen days, all of one year ago. Definitely a Miss to watch. Ashley Kimball (Sonoma County) - What a talent! And some really amazing blue eyes too. Has the potential to be a really strong all-around contestant. Gabriela Garcia (Tarzana) - Fantastic in swimsuit, vast talent improvement since her local, beautiful face, and a real elegance on stage. Major contender next year. Kara Smoot (Ventura County) - Really strong talent, and really dedicated to prep as evident by her swimsuit transformation since her local. Terrific interview as well. Should be in the mix for 2014. Kaitlin Urell (Yorba Linda) - For someone who has rarely sung in front of an audience, she certainly knows to command a stage and belt out a number! Very pretty girl, very well prepared, and this year's experience will only help her achieve greater heights in the future. These are the newbies that really stood out to me. WHo are yours? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Mine were: Ashley Dennis, Gabriela Garcia, Angela Laird and Heidi Cheung. They really stood out for me! It was hard to believe they were newbies! (NT) -- Hope those four return. They were a pleasure to watch., 06:15:48 07/19/13 Fri Great list!!!!!!!!!! I would like to add one more rookie to it and that is Nikki Schiber, Miss Merced County. I thought she rocked it in swimsuit and gown. She has a lot of personality as well. Simply delightful. While I enjoyed her talent, she will need to find a way to perform that will get her more points. I would love to see her compete again. (NT) -- Tom Moletteire, 07:13:42 07/19/13 Fri Something tells me the Berry girl is carrying too much of her sister's baggage to ever do really well in MAO. (NT) -- Sad but true, 12:00:36 07/21/13 Sun I don't think that's true. (NT) -- No more drama. Just encourage!, 12:55:03 07/21/13 Sun

Subject: Does anyone know the stats on the live stream? How many subscribed? The revinue it possibly brought in? Was it worth it at the end?
Author: Just wondering [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:31:10 07/12/13 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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revenue (NT) -- , 12:43:57 07/12/13 Fri At the Gala, Kym mentioned raising $4,000 for the scholarship fund, so I'm guessing that was the profit. But of course, I wouldn't have any details. (NT) -- Ernie Koneck, 10:59:11 07/13/13 Sat The live stream was awful , not worth the money (NT) -- if you ask me, 04:10:56 07/14/13 Sun What was awful about it, aside from the lighting, which has already been discussed to death? (NT) -- Ernie, 09:50:13 07/14/13 Sun It was awful.. half of the time the contestants faces were deformed on it for me. I won't pay for it again . IT WAS JUST AWFUL!! (NT) -- angel, 16:18:55 07/20/13 Sat disagree. I liked the webcast and had no trouble with it, unlike tx and ms, which both blacked out and froze at different times. (NT) -- ., 10:01:08 07/14/13 Sun CA finally got to show everyone how competitive their talent is. No one can beat it. It was an outstanding show and never once did I wish the talent time limit was shorter like I do watching other states. In fact I wished I could see more of each talent. (NT) -- Nice job CA!, 10:23:42 07/14/13 Sun You can never make people happy. When there was no webcast, CA was called out as behind the times. Now that there was one, it was "awful". I know the state org is far from perfect, but jeez louise. (NT) -- give them a break!, 05:50:11 07/15/13 Mon Watched the live stream from home and it was GREAT! (NT) -- No complaints here. Please keep doing it!!, 13:24:32 07/14/13 Sun We loved watching it and were very grateful it was streaming. (NT) -- Thank you for making it happen MCO!, 17:20:45 07/15/13 Mon Loved watching the Live Stream! Hope they keep it for next year. (NT) -- ., 19:10:53 07/17/13 Wed Loved it. Hope to see it next year also. (NT) -- fan, 08:59:58 07/21/13 Sun

Subject: Will Crystal still be preforming the Swan at Miss America?
Author: crystal fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:48:19 07/14/13 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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According to another post on this board, Crystal will be keeping The Swan for Miss America. Since the post was made anonymously it is hard to say if that is true or not. I imagine she will keep it since there is such little time between now and Miss America and nobody else has taken it. (NT) -- Tom Moletteire, 05:09:33 07/15/13 Mon Seriously, doesn't she know anything else. That swan need to swim away. (NT) -- Every year the same ballet, 06:30:43 07/15/13 Mon Actually this was only her second time performing The Swan at state. Her first year competing she did a cultural dance (which was beautiful as well). Last year and this year she performed The Swan variation. What ever Crystal decides to perform she will be lovely. I love The Swan variation. (NT) -- Courtney Trouten, 07:57:29 07/15/13 Mon I love The Swan variation also. It is so emotional and elegant. It fits crystal perfectly. (NT) -- ..., 09:53:15 07/15/13 Mon Everyone said they were bored with Leah repeating the same song too but hey if it works and produces results then Crystal should use it! Kristy, Noelle, Leah, Crystal can play and dance more difficult and academic routines because of their intense training, but for pageants they have had to choose a more standard, entertaining routine they can crunch down to 90 min. (NT) -- If it ain't broke-------, 13:24:57 07/15/13 Mon 90 secs Thank God most of those talents are seconds and minutes! (NT) -- Wish some of them were 15 seconds, 13:33:00 07/15/13 Mon Crystal will be amazing no matter what. (NT) -- I hope she keeps the Swan! Love her arms in it!, 10:30:03 07/15/13 Mon Must use a different recording because the instrument used was out of tune and it clashed with Crystals beauty. (NT) -- We would hate that being broadcast on national TV. It's sounds very amateur., 13:13:49 07/15/13 Mon She got it on iTunes or You Tube. I think the deadline for submitting the recording has come and gone. If you have another version to recommend, please list it and one of us will pass it on - on the off chance that it is not too late. (NT) -- Mary Mc, 11:52:48 07/16/13 Tue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b44-5M4e9nI or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWtu5os9lFc or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWtu5os9lFc The one from Yo Yo Ma is a little slower but the other two from Boston Pops are gorgeous and IN TUNE! The last one is best. It has the most expression with more dynamics like Crystal dances.Have her listen and change it out. Her version is so bad. It doesn't match her beauty. (NT) -- I doubt there's a deadline past. Idaho is just crowning theirs tonight., 19:34:50 07/17/13 Wed No! Idaho is done. (NT) -- I hope the deadline isn't over. She needs to change the music to a better recording, 19:38:21 07/17/13 Wed Arkansas is still going on....so the final deadline can't have passed. (NT) -- ., 12:50:43 07/18/13 Thu Crystal has danced The Swan 4 times in competition. Twice at the local level and twice at state. She has won the talent competition all 4 times. Usually winning talent awards consistantly indicates the talent piece is a keeper. (NT) -- Tom Moletteire, 03:03:27 07/16/13 Tue Although it is a familiar piece for us Californians, it is something new for the rest of the country and I am sure that they will enjoy it just as much as we have. It is a well executed and polished performance and she should/will take it to the Miss America stage. (NT) -- Definitely a MA preliminary talent award winner., 12:59:53 07/17/13 Wed Based on the reactions I've seen on the national message board, and we all know that IS the ultimate source of all pageant truth, Crystal's talent is a 10 and she is a likely prelim talent winner. (NT) -- Ernie - your cub reporter, 17:39:43 07/17/13 Wed She will do the swan and she's going to be fantastic at Miss America! (NT) -- Go Crystal!, 19:04:28 07/17/13 Wed Needs better music !! (NT) -- Good luck Crystal!!!!, 10:42:57 07/18/13 Thu Isn't Russ in charge of the talent prep?? He is excellent at that sort of thing! (NT) -- Me!, 16:47:28 07/18/13 Thu

Subject: the contestants
Author: a Mom [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:54:21 07/10/13 Wed I've been passively reading this blog, I would like to say a few things as a new person to this world of pageants�� I have read things like Crystal isn't being a mentor to her teen and Laura B being unkind..... Crystal met my daughter the first night in Fresno and immediately gave her cell number to my daughter offering her support and help. This shows true class and mentorship if I have ever seen or heard of it! Laura also offered words of support and kindness! I have always heard about "how close the girls get to each other" and they will meet "forever friends". It is true! I'm sure there are some negative things that are said or done, but my daughter had an experience of a lifetime and I will be forever grateful for that! Crystal is a true class act and I can't wait to see what a fabulous job she does representing our state! One last thing while I'm in my soapbox, Leah did a fabulous, amazing job at fostering an environment of unity between the class of 2013! She truly brought them together as a group! Thanks for the memories!!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I agree! Leah and Crystal have taken on the the proper role of a Miss Ca -- Leah unifying the class of of 2013 with support and love then Crystal grabbing the baton and following through with the joy and excitement of representing our state in just 6 short weeks at Miss America. We are so blessed and this just might be our year in Atlantic City. (NT) -- Thank you Leah and go Crystal! We support you all the way!!, 19:57:49 07/10/13 Wed I've heard that every year for the past 30. (NT) -- LOL, 19:21:44 07/11/13 Thu :You have not heard from me that every Miss CA will be the next Miss A, but this year is as close to it as we will have been in years. We have come close and had some wonderful Miss California's but Crystal will be a very strong candidate! She has it all! (NT) -- Love our new Miss California!, 03:08:37 07/12/13 Fri Well, Ms./Mr. Cynic - that's why "Hope springs eternal." (NT) -- Ernie Koneck, 17:50:20 07/17/13 Wed Could not agree more. (NT) -- ., 19:13:28 07/17/13 Wed

Subject: CA didn't GET the sponsor. They stepped up and offered. So if there is another designer out there who can supply 100 girls then step up!
Author: The jumpsuit was UUUUGLYYYYY! Otherwise the rest were cute and the girls accessorized them beautifully. [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:50:33 07/01/13 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Really? I like them the best! Different strokes for different folks! (NT) -- I would have picked the jumpsuit if I had a choice! They were the cutest!, 15:45:19 07/01/13 Mon Courtney Troutens dress looked like there were bullet holes all over it. Ugly! I'll bet that's getting thrown in one of CA's infamous beach fire pits this summer! (NT) -- But Courtney's cute figure and gorgeous hair made it tolerable., 08:20:40 07/03/13 Wed Well OUCH I really liked my dress. I wore it to work and got a lot on compliments. (NT) -- Courtney Trouten, 09:54:21 07/11/13 Thu Katy Tang also wore the "bullet hole" dress. I thought it was pretty cute. I liked some of the outfits/dresses, others not so much. But on a whole, I found them to be more fashion forward and trendy than capris and a bedazzled tank. At least it was something new and interesting. I liked seeing how different girls styled the same dresses different ways, to express their individually. (NT) -- and don't forget that whoever wins Miss America will be stuck wearing many unfortunate styles (Ribkoff) so she'd better start making the best of it now, lol :), 09:58:23 07/11/13 Thu Those dresses were crap. Poorly made it was a poor showing, the girls looked lile misfits on stage, like they just didn't go together. Kind of like Connie cleaned out her closet and offered the dresses, jumpsuits etc. Go back to the classy way, pick a color for capris and a solid color top. (NT) -- And please dont let Connie pick them out. No style!!!, 06:16:49 07/11/13 Thu I liked the opening number outfits for both the Miss and the Teens. They weren't the same old same old and they showed off the girls' creativity. It was interesting to see what different girls did with the same outfit. (NT) -- Tom Moletteire, 10:16:13 07/11/13 Thu Did't like! Looked like mumbo jumbo! (NT) -- UHG!, 10:51:54 07/11/13 Thu I liked them too. They flowed well and it was fun to see how the girls accessorized them. The Miss long jumpsuit was great but it's counterpart, the short gaucho-pant jumpsuit, was awful. The dress with all the bulletholes was awful but I think all the rest AND the teens were great. (NT) -- And they were free., 11:51:44 07/11/13 Thu A sponsor offers items that are of good quality so they are recognized for the showing. Those dresses were hidious. I was told Connie had good taste, maybe on food but those dresses were the worst ever and I've been going to Miss CA as a spectator for years and years. They were almost clown like. (NT) -- Go back to simple, capris and pick a color for the top., 05:25:53 07/12/13 Fri How about getting beautiful dresses like other states have?? (NT) -- !, 06:49:25 07/12/13 Fri Have you people SEEN what the girls in Tennessee were forced to wear? And those "bulletholes" are GROMMETS. Used HEAVILY this season. Quit whining. Until you go out there and get Sherri Hill or Tony Bowles to hand over 100+dresses, I really don't want to hear miserable, ungrateful people gripe. (NT) -- ugh., 07:17:22 07/12/13 Fri I want to clarify a couple of points. The designer did not "step up and offer" out of the blue. The designer was asked to donate opening number wardrobe by Connie Oliver. Also, Connie did not select the outfits that were worn. The designer did. I am certain there are plenty of designers who would love to have their designs livestreamed over the internet with 100 goregous women wearing them. If you think you can do better than what Connie Oliver did, I doubt her feelings will be hurt. Find another designer to donate 100 original outfits next year. (NT) -- Tom Moletteire, 12:06:34 07/12/13 Fri Tom, donated unattractive designs should not be acceptable! SO they are free, but not attractive??! In the past the girls have purchased white pants and a top color determined by opening number theme. NOW wouldn't you rather pay for a dress for your titleholder, if reasonable, than freebeeeesssss or those silly white pants and tops?? (NT) -- Let's get some class CA!, 14:14:20 07/12/13 Fri I do not share your opinion that the outfits were unattractive. Frankly, I find the matching capris and color tops over done. But like I said, feel free to find someone who will donate 100 versions of an opening number outfit you find acceptable. (NT) -- Tom Moletteire, 15:25:18 07/12/13 Fri I really liked the opening number outfits, both Miss and Teen, for a couple of reasons. They were very contemporary, they fit the music without being too revealing, and the "variety within limits" concept was really fun. I liked the variety of dress styles for the Teens, all in the same color. And I liked the Miss concept with the multi-colored print and the solid colors all being colors used in the print. And I have to agree, one more year of sparkly tops and black pants right now would be one year too many. It's been done to death. Given the music, cocktail dresses would have looked out of place. (NT) -- Ernie Koneck, 10:53:25 07/13/13 Sat After hearing all the pre-pageant hype, I was pleasantly surprised at how much I liked the outfits for a stage production, especially the Miss ones. And they were free. FREE. Most E.D.'s don't have a dime left in the budget for production outfits. I agree with a previous poster. Until you can get Sherri or Tony to donate, shut the eff up and be grateful. (NT) -- Norlene Bitch, 14:41:42 07/13/13 Sat Re: After hearing all the pre-pageant hype, I was pleasantly surprised at how much I liked the outfits for a stage production, especially the Miss ones. And they were free. FREE. Most E.D.'s don't have a dime left in the budget for production outfits. I agree with a previous poster. Until you can get Sherri or Tony to donate, shut the eff up and be grateful. -- Observer, 05:32:04 07/14/13 Sun Hey, maybe the Salvation Army would donate, after all we are a non-profit, think of the unique outfits the girls could wear! GET CLASSY please! (NT) -- Comonnnnn!!, 07:15:12 07/14/13 Sun Jordan and Crystal are from 2 dif't regions in CA. They didn't discuss and plan prior. The majority of the girls had no choice, only a few did and since most of the outfits were cute I'd say the whole deal came out fine. (NT) -- Just because 1-3 girls' outfits weren't so cute doesn't mean it was a waste. We thought it was pretty decent because we were invisioning worse., 10:48:57 07/14/13 Sun I have an idea. So we can get classy, and so we can have great opening number outfits like some of the other states, let's ask Bob to charge each franchise a production fee, say, $100 or $200. Just like those other states do. (NT) -- Will call him tomorrow, 11:05:31 07/14/13 Sun We already pay a franchise fee "idiot" $600 + $100 for insurance for each title. What rock are you living under. (NT) -- Really, you don't think Bob makes enough to live on?, 06:37:01 07/15/13 Mon Pretty sure that was sarcasm. And many states do charge a seperate production fee. (NT) -- ., 07:31:08 07/15/13 Mon We should be grateful for the sponsorship. (NT) -- ., 19:12:14 07/17/13 Wed

Subject: Favorite Gowns at Miss Ca 2013!
Author: Keep it fun! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:42:57 07/11/13 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Bree Morse's gown was the most beautiful original gown I've seen in YEARS! (NT) -- Also liked...crystal lee, Lauren smolka, Laura Berger, miss Yosemite valley..., 10:52:02 07/11/13 Thu Does anyone know what designer Bree's gown was? (NT) -- ., 11:19:38 07/11/13 Thu Bree's gown is a MacDougal (NT) -- looked it up because i loved it so much!, 05:27:10 07/12/13 Fri I know she bought it at Mia Bella and I think it was either Jovani or Tony Bowls. (NT) -- Ernie, 13:14:56 07/11/13 Thu In the semi finals, my favs were Bree, Crystal, Marina & Lauren. I also liked LJB's gown, but just the gown itself.... (NT) -- ., 14:31:11 07/11/13 Thu Re: In the semi finals, my favs were Bree, Crystal, Marina & Lauren. I also liked LJB's gown, but just the gown itself.... -- Love Me Some Pageants (LJB Gown=Morgan Woolard's Gown), 14:48:37 07/11/13 Thu Crystal's and Lauren's were my favorites. Lauren's was straight out of "Great Gatsby" with the Art Deco beading pattern, and the fit was perfect. She's always looked great in gown, but this was definitely her best ever. Same for Crystal - the color was amazing, and the style just seemed to fit her personality to a tee - elegant and graceful. A real showstopper. Hope she wears it, or something like it, at Miss America. (NT) -- Ernie, 15:10:51 07/11/13 Thu Bree's gown by far was the most amazing gown. She glowed on stage. It definitely was one of a kind. Just gorgeous.. (NT) -- Go Bree, 09:15:43 07/12/13 Fri I have mixed feelings about Crystal�s gown. Although the low back was absolutely stunning, I wasn�t sold on the front as I thought there was too much fabric covering a fabulous body. However, I did like the color choice. I would agree that Bree had the best gown of the pageant. (NT) -- MLB, 09:56:31 07/12/13 Fri About Bree's gown, and she carried it off well. Not sold on Crystal's gown. Agree with other poster, the back was the best part, front almost matronly and bulky. Crystal looks great in most everything! (NT) -- My take., 17:19:51 07/12/13 Fri Re: About Bree's gown, and she carried it off well. Not sold on Crystal's gown. Agree with other poster, the back was the best part, front almost matronly and bulky. Crystal looks great in most everything! -- Former ED, 13:07:34 07/14/13 Sun Crystal Lee's lavendar gown--best in show. Maybe even best ever. Hope they keep it for Miss A. (NT) -- abacus, 14:45:31 07/13/13 Sat Hope they don't send her looking like an old lady in a poorly made gown (NT) -- NO!, 17:08:19 07/13/13 Sat Me neither! That would be horrible! Her purple dress would be perfect! (NT) -- Miss America fashion is red carpet, just like Crystal's dress is. Gobs of AB sequins is not Miss America couture., 10:58:04 07/14/13 Sun LOVED Crystal's gown. Then again, it's not about the gown it's about the GIRL in the gown. Crystal looks great in everything. Our next MA. (NT) -- Crystal fan, 19:09:28 07/17/13 Wed Re: Favorite Gowns at Miss Ca 2013! (NT) -- Gowns (Loved Millie's and Marina's white gowns best), 11:54:52 07/16/13 Tue

Subject: Swimsuit
Author: Former [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 05:20:40 06/30/13 Sun Any word on who the swimsuit winners were? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Bump! (NT) -- /, 14:04:18 06/30/13 Sun I was there and at the gala and never heard them announce any. (NT) -- Did they drop that from the pageant this year?, 14:44:55 06/30/13 Sun Heard Leah telling someone in lobby this morning that Crystal won SS on her night but I didn't hear the other nights. (NT) -- So Crystal beat Jordan. Hard to do!, 14:56:07 06/30/13 Sun Heard Caylynn also won SS. (NT) -- Info, 15:31:02 06/30/13 Sun Re: Heard Caylynn also won SS. -- Fiona (happy), 20:21:57 06/30/13 Sun Agree completely. Jordan was a clear 10 in swimsuit. (NT) -- Crystal was also awesome, 16:47:08 07/01/13 Mon Actually Crystal beat Jordan in SS. Crystal also beat Jordan in EG and talent and in T5. (NT) -- If Jordan is a 10 then Crystal is a 10.5, 18:11:05 07/01/13 Mon I don't know why they didn't announce the SS and Miss Congeniality! Where/When can we find this out? (NT) -- ?, 17:14:51 06/30/13 Sun Marina Inserra was voted Miss Congeniality. It was announced at the gala. (NT) -- Tom Moletteire, 05:55:57 07/02/13 Tue You are incorrect. She was announced as the Hostess' favorite girl or something like that. -- ,, 06:29:15 07/02/13 Tue I stand corrected. I thought she was announced as Miss Congeniality. Of course if they announced these awards on stage without the din of people talking, it would be easier to hear and less confusing. (NT) -- Tom Moletteire, 07:02:58 07/02/13 Tue I know it was announced that Marina received the hostess award at the gala but don't remember them saying anything about Miss Congeniality. (NT) -- Maybe I missed it?, 06:30:51 07/02/13 Tue Tom, I really thought Marina Inserra deserved a top 5 spot. Couldn't believe it when she wasn't called. (NT) -- James, 14:52:22 07/03/13 Wed Caylynn, Lauren, and Crystal. Don't know the 4th. (NT) -- Maybe the 4th group weren't good enough., 18:20:37 07/01/13 Mon Who won out of the Delta group? (NT) -- You obviously don't know how it works. There were at least 3 that the guru board liked!, 18:28:30 07/01/13 Mon Still hoping to find out the SS winners- can't anyone help?? (NT) -- Please?, 04:43:11 07/02/13 Tue What night was Ashley Dennis? Her swimsuit body and fitness level were amazing! (NT) -- ., 07:04:52 07/02/13 Tue Ashley was in ss on Tuesday. In that group I thought there were 3 possible winners, all of whom made the top 15: Ashley, Gabriela Garcia and Bree Morse. If the other three ss winners are accurate, then the judges picked the same girl for ss and gown in each girl, and Bree won gown in this group. If anyone knows, please post. (NT) -- Ernie, 07:45:09 07/02/13 Tue Really surprised swimsuit winners haven't really been mentioned. (NT) -- delovely, 12:21:29 07/02/13 Tue It was that way last year too. Leah didn't find out until a week later. They say every year they will announce at Gala but it always gets washed out and no one knows. (NT) -- Some things never change., 15:05:14 07/02/13 Tue Nope! Last year SS was announced on stage right before the runners up were announced! (NT) -- on last years final night video, 16:47:45 07/02/13 Tue BUMP. (NT) -- Gotta know, 05:10:58 07/03/13 Wed Is anyone sure that swimsuit awards were even given? No one has that they won one on their FB. (NT) -- Maybe the three "winners" were just assumptions since they won last year. Who would know for sure???, 13:02:53 07/03/13 Wed The swimsuit winners were not announced. Any talk of who won is speculation. (NT) -- Tom Moletteire, 13:33:13 07/03/13 Wed Last year, the Bill Bertram and Leni Arnhym Talent awards were announced weeks after the pageant. Maybe they'll do the same with swimsuit this year, even if no money is involved. (NT) -- Ernie, 13:58:17 07/03/13 Wed Question about the Bill Bertram award: is this considered to be the highest scoring talent? Or just the highest non-classical talent? (NT) -- confused, 14:06:41 07/03/13 Wed It is my understanding the Bill Bertram award goes to the contestant with the highest score in talent. The Leni Arnhym award is not entirely based upon points earned in competition. I believe it employs a separate criteria. However, I am not sure what that is. (NT) -- Tom Moletteire, 14:34:09 07/03/13 Wed The Leni Arnhym award goes to whomever Bob wants to have it. (NT) -- lucifer, 19:33:49 07/06/13 Sat Glad to see some new girls won. Sick if hearing Jordan's name and Marina's. you think they are owed because they have been there so many time? Yes, Jordan's gown was pretty but it was another version of two years ago. Marina just needs to quit, how many times can you go to Miss CA and figure out you're not the one. (NT) -- Bob choses every year. He meets with judges and the decision is made. How do you think Jim Monte knows where to shoot the camera when the names are being called? Really people wake up, 10:29:26 07/15/13 Mon It's called editing you idiot!!! He has THREE cameras covering the span of the whole crowd of girls and in the final edit in his studio, he uses the coverage from the camera who is assigned that portion of the stage! During the final night as the 15 are called, they use wide angle then narrow on the girl walking up to the front. (NT) -- Jordan's gown was pretty but that style would never pass at MA., 13:10:18 07/15/13 Mon Crystal will win MA so Caylynn will finish out the year and have fun with that. Next year it will be Bree and Marina last 2 standing, Marina crowned. (NT) -- Jordan improved but she still doesn't get what she needs to do., 13:29:09 07/15/13 Mon I don't think Calynn will take the title, she still has a couple of years to compete doesn't she (NT) -- I thought she was only 21 or 22, 15:24:49 07/16/13 Tue So what! Becoming Miss Ca in September is perfect! She would get practically a full year of travel and perks! (NT) -- And none of the hard work of the Miss America prep., 06:11:21 07/17/13 Wed Oh stop it. Crystal won because she is the whole package. Not surprised if she becomes MA. (NT) -- crystal fan, 19:07:58 07/17/13 Wed So you are saying Bob picked Leah last year? (NT) -- Just asking, 10:34:00 07/15/13 Mon OH I don't believe so! (NT) -- NO!, 11:01:32 07/15/13 Mon

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