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Subject: I have to comment on the teen crowning picture. DanaMarie looks absolutely gorgeous, and did an amazing job filling in for our frequently missing MCOT. DanaMarie was gracious, warm, and sparkled on stage, even though it must have been a bit awkward for her.
Author: Would have been a great MCOT! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:23:28 07/13/13 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I didn't even notice until now that it wasn't grace. Where was she? (NT) -- Did she step down?, 16:57:19 07/13/13 Sat Grace wasn't there all week. Apparently she has mono. SHe did do a pre-recorded farewell. (NT) -- Ernie, 18:27:39 07/13/13 Sat I can't say that Grace did not have mono but I can say that if you google her name you will see that she danced in a Chinese dance production the same weekend as miss California. (NT) -- What a flake, 18:35:21 07/13/13 Sat That is correct. (NT) -- just sayin', 19:40:52 07/13/13 Sat WHAT????? What a disgrace. (NT) -- Horrible MCOT, 07:07:33 07/14/13 Sun Couldn't find it (NT) -- Confused, 09:47:47 07/14/13 Sun Unless you can prove what you are saying, you should not be saying it. (NT) -- back it up with facts., 10:54:27 07/14/13 Sun just because her name is listed, doesn't mean she actually danced. (NT) -- ., 11:38:01 07/14/13 Sun She did dance in a Chinese production during Miss CA week. IN 2009 not 2013. Get your facts right. To the frequently missing FORMER MCOT remark, let it rest. She is no longer our MCOT. As far as I know, she did her job and was there except for Miss CA due to Mono. Danamarie did a great job filling in and if ya'll like her more than Grace it's a good thing she filled in for Grace at Miss CA. What I'm trying to point out is don't start rumors that aren't true. Get your facts right. -- Get your facts straight. We have a new MCOT., 09:14:40 07/16/13 Tue That is not true. Grace did not do any sort of performance during Miss California week. (NT) -- Stop these lies!!!, 11:37:38 07/14/13 Sun I'm so confused. (NT) -- what is the truth?, 12:38:45 07/14/13 Sun Who is DanaMarie? Was she first runner up the previous year? Just curios...Why Dana? -- Just a question!, 21:16:17 07/14/13 Sun DanaMarie was 1RU in last year's Outstanding Teen pageant. Last year's winner, Grace Grant, did not make it to Fresno this year. As the 1RU, DanaMarie stood in for Grace. (NT) -- Tom Moletteire, 04:59:12 07/15/13 Mon Does DanaMarie have another year of eligibility? Hope, if not, she moves on to the Miss program. She is beautiful and talented! (NT) -- question, 09:56:58 07/15/13 Mon Yes, she is! And very sweet, too!! (NT) -- :)), 10:26:25 07/15/13 Mon DanaMarie just graduated from high school, so she is eligible from Miss. She didn't compete this past year because she entered Miss Teenage California, where she made top 10. (NT) -- Ernie, 14:52:29 07/15/13 Mon Thanks Tom and Ernie! You're both so knowledgeable!!!! <3 -- Thanks a million, 18:18:11 07/15/13 Mon Re: Thanks Tom and Ernie! You're both so knowledgeable!!!! <3 -- Teen Fan, 20:30:24 07/15/13 Mon The goal is to have 40 teens compete each year. Priority for competing will be given to those contestants who actually win a pageant. Second priority will be given to those who are appointed by a local pageant and then at-large contestants will fill in the blanks if any. This year, 28 teens won a pageant, 8 were appointed and 3 competed at large. That makes for 39 contestants. There would have been a 40th but San Diego - who was appointed - had to withdraw. (NT) -- Tom Moletteire, 02:56:54 07/16/13 Tue Re: I have to comment on the teen crowning picture. DanaMarie looks absolutely gorgeous, and did an amazing job filling in for our frequently missing MCOT. DanaMarie was gracious, warm, and sparkled on stage, even though it must have been a bit awkward for her. -- Dana Fan, 20:23:06 07/15/13 Mon Ill get to the point, I think that is a fucked up statement to make about Grace being "frequently missing." She was sick with mono and it was doctors orders that kept her from attending Miss CA to crown her successor. (NT) -- Either back up your statements or givie it a rest., 09:01:56 07/16/13 Tue I am happy to back up my statement. She was the ONLY - ONLY - state teen who did not attend the Miss America pageant and participate in the group number. It was embarrassing for the entire state. (NT) -- unbelievable, 14:07:25 07/16/13 Tue Whoa whoa whoa. Can we keep it clean? (NT) -- Thanks, 14:18:59 07/16/13 Tue From what I hear the teen has to pay to go to Miss America. I also believe it was during the transition between Mary and Kati. Grace missed two events, big events I might add but she was there for everything else. Dana did a great job filling in for Grace during pageant week and kudos to the beautiful young lady for stepping up. Grace was however around all year and let's not forget she did place well at MAOT and attend appearances. Let's put this to rest and focus on our new MCOT and cheer her on at MAOT! -- Look at the bigger picture. We have a new MCOT, the old one is gone for good. Quit complaining., 18:21:09 07/17/13 Wed research -- research (hmmm), 05:53:55 07/16/13 Tue This is from 2009 not 2013. Research umm. (NT) -- Let is rest. We have our new MCOT 2013., 08:40:30 07/16/13 Tue Re: I have to comment on the teen crowning picture. DanaMarie looks absolutely gorgeous, and did an amazing job filling in for our frequently missing MCOT. DanaMarie was gracious, warm, and sparkled on stage, even though it must have been a bit awkward for her. -- Confused, 14:21:30 07/16/13 Tue I am wondering why Danamarie was not crowned MCOT? Even if only for a week. I liked Grace and do understand if she was ill but if one of her duties was to crown her successor and she was, for whatever reason, unable to do so then the crown should have gone to the first runner up right? Isn't that how it works? Please correct me if I'm wrong and I don't want to start a war even though I know that could happen here but I really feel like Danamarie should have been crowned. (NT) -- confused, 15:15:02 07/16/13 Tue If you really want to know, I think you're going to have to contact Kati Enea personally. This isn't a subject appropriate for any speculation on a message board, if for no other reason than your talking about teens. (NT) -- Ernie - your cub reporter, 17:48:00 07/17/13 Wed

Subject: Are there any pageants that will not be returning this year?
Author: ? [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:42:33 07/14/13 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Congrats to former Miss Tustin Catherine Watters - Top 10 at Miss Washington!
Author: Ernie Koneck [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:17:55 07/06/13 Sat She won a talent prelim last night. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Catherine is in the top 5 at Miss Washington! (NT) -- Ernie, 18:27:00 07/06/13 Sat Catherine placed 4th runner-up at Miss Washington! Congratulations! (NT) -- Ernie, 19:11:04 07/06/13 Sat Personal best for her! She looks gorgeous. Hope she has another year. (NT) -- NB, 19:14:49 07/06/13 Sat Catherine Watters has one more year of eligibility. (NT) -- Ernie, 09:54:06 07/14/13 Sun

Subject: Who was in the Top 15 (not sure if just a Top 12 or Top 10 were announced) and their placements for both Miss and Outstanding Teen? Thank you!
Author: Groove [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 03:44:41 07/11/13 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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A breakdown of both the placements are available on the Miss Garden Grove blog :) -- Jill- Miss GG committee, 05:21:16 07/11/13 Thu Should have said, click in- the link is there :) (NT) -- Jill, 05:25:56 07/11/13 Thu Thank you so much, Jill! :) (NT) -- Groove, 15:32:28 07/12/13 Fri A correction to the list of teen award winners listed on the Garden Grove blog. Golden Empire's Outstanding Teen was a talent preliminary winner for her piano solo. Santa Barbara's teen did NOT win a talent preliminary. (NT) -- Tom Moletteire, 09:08:22 07/12/13 Fri Thanks, Tom! Blog is edited! (NT) -- Jill, 09:11:47 07/12/13 Fri

Subject: Early days of Miss California in Santa Cruz
Author: na [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:39:00 07/12/13 Fri https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152076636738378&set=a.429019468377.220436.40035168377&type=1&theater [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Farewell to the "Graduates" of 2013 - REVISED
Author: Ernie Koneck [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:15:06 07/10/13 Wed I've been waiting and waiting for someone to post something positive but I got tired of waiting so here goes. A Brief Tribute to the 2013 Contestants who have Aged Out (Let me know if anyone has been left out inadvertently or included by mistake). Also, since we have already heard Laura Berger's parting shot and the endless analysis of it, I've chosen to focus on all the OTHER girls that we'll miss in the future. Echoe Malone (City of Inglewood): A lot of pageant fans look down on monologues as if they weren't a "real" talent. But when they're performed by a real actress, they most certainly are. And Echoe is the real deal. She is also gorgeous, smart, articulate and extremely elegant, and I hope to see her on a red carpet someday - whether it's for a Tony Award, an Emmy or an Oscar, I don't care. I wish her all the luck in the world in one of the most competitive fields out there. Katy Tang (Culver City): Some of you may not remember, but Katy was Arianna's 1st runner-up in the Outstanding Teen pageant in 2005. She took a long vacation from pageants, re-emerged last year, and soared all the way to 2nd runner-up and a prelim talent award this year. What I discovered about her this year was her delightful personality and a terrific sense of humor. Whatever her future has in store, I'm sure it will be very bright. Raquel Fatiuk (Golden Gate): A truly remarkable talent that will be long remembered in the same vein as Angel Blue and Jacquelynne Fontaine. Raquel is not just a voice, however. She is a truly stunning, elegant presence on stage and a unique, interesting person. At the Gala, she said she wished she had discovered MCO sooner. I'm sure the audience agrees. As she embarks on her professional opera career, I have complete confidence that we'll be hearing much more from her in the future. Lauren Smolka (Hollywood): For may people, the first word that might come to mind when describing Lauren is "gorgeous." And she certainly is. For me, the first word I think of is "kindness." I've sat in on or judged many of Lauren's pageant interviews and mocks, and that is the quality that always shines through. One of the funniest things about her is how often she has been cast "against type" in regional theater productions, playing everyone from the Wicked Witch of the West in "The Wizard of Oz" to Amber Von Tussle in "Hairspray." Clearly, this girl can act! Look out Broadway and Hollywood (the industry town, not the pageant) - Lauren is ready to charm her way into your hearts. Megan Wisler (Orange County) - Another dazzling beauty who has the unique ability to make everything she does on stage look effortless. She reached new heights in every area of competition this year, and I can hardly wait to find out how many more languages she can sing in. Personally, I can't wait for the Portuguese-Hebrew-Bengali-Urdu number she's planning for her farewell. OK, I made that up, but wouldn't it be funny if she took it as a challenge and actually did it? I would never bet against this girl; I think she can do anything she sets her mind to. Ashley Newman (Sacramento County) - A truly dazzling newcomer who works as a teacher - in a juvenile detention facility. Her talent was fabulous, her wardrobe was great and she dynamic stage presence. Ashley certainly proved to be one of the outstanding "rookies" of the year. Word is that she has seven - yes, seven - job offers to choose from, which means once she makes her final choice, and they fill the rest of the positions she was offered, she will have singlehandedly reduced the state's unemployment rate by 0.3% Thanks, Ashley! Christina Alcaraz (Sierra Nevada) - As a judge at the first local she ever won, I've been following Chrissy's pageant career ever since. In the next edition of the dictionary, they may use her picture to illustrate hard work and perseverance, never more so than this past 2 years. She has always been a contestant in search of the right song, and this year she found it in "I Dreamed A Dream." She also was instrumental in introducing Lorna Jane to the MCO. WHile the final outcome may not have been all she hoped for, the journey proved to be nothing short of spectacular. Courtney Trouten (South Counties) - Another incredible hard worker who faced the challenge of an ankle injury (less than ideal for a ballet en pointe dancer), not to mention a challenging full-time job. Nonetheless, Courtney gave her preparation her all and delivered on all counts. I think of her as genuine, funny, down-to-earth and completely committed to everything she attempts. Her self-confidence grew by leaps and bounds this year, and that, more than anything, may be the most important pageant legacy any contestant could hope for. The sky's the limit! Annie Wilson (Southland) - Georgia's loss was California's gain, as the fierce and fabulous Annie Wilson hit the stage every night at Miss CA. From her soulful, jazzy vocal performance, to her commanding confidence and gorgeous smile in swimsuit and evening wear, Annie looked every part the star. And to think that all came about while she was finishing her master's degree in Industrial Organizational Psychology! Say that fast 3 times. Annie planes to pursue her Ph.D. in that field and work as a consultant to large corporations looking for ways to identify problems in their work environment and fix them. So someday in the future, if your job suddenly gets more enjoyable, you may have Annie, or someone like her, to thank. ADDITION Prisca Shiralian (Central California Regional) - Talk about multi-talented! Last year, Prisca showed us a beautiful singing voice we hadn't heard before. This year, she opted to return to her original talent - piano - but played a song she composed herself. It was a beautiful, mature composition that showcased her ever-improving piano skills, and she did it all while finishing her master's degree. Best of luck to one of Fresno's finest Congratulations to all of our pageant "grads". You have all contributed to the Miss California program in your own unique way, whether you competed for one year or several. I think I speak for many people when I say you will be missed. And one final farewell - to Miss California 2012 Leah Cecil, who found new and ever more creative ways to be a state titleholder and in the process practically redefined the job and set the bar ever higher for Crystal and those to follow. While the Miss America judges didn't see it, everyone in California certainly sees that you are one of a kind, and very, very special. Fortunately, you will be back next year in charge of the Duke of Edinburgh program, so we don't truly have to say goodbye. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Wasn't Prisca so amazing? And her family is so loving and supportive of Prisca and the MCO program. We were so blessed to have such a wonderful class this year with a great support system in family and friends more than other years. Thank you Leah for having the intuition and gift of love and leadership to bring the best out in these girls. This will be a class of women which will be forever remembered by the hostesses and by the ED's as being an amazing, strong, influential, focused group of women who will contribute in ways beyond the goals of MCO. (NT) -- We are blessed. Leah set the tone and Crystal takes CA into Miss America history., 20:12:28 07/10/13 Wed Agree about Prisca 's parents. They are really sweet and loving. (NT) -- Ernie, 05:32:53 07/11/13 Thu

Subject: UH oh, predict Texas winner is an Asian and she is beautiful! Very talented, great SS, beautiful gown!
Author: We shall see? [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:00:05 07/06/13 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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OOpsN guess not, she was 1st runner up. (NT) -- Nope, 16:53:12 07/06/13 Sat Haven't seen a picture of Miss TX yet, but talent comments on national board are not kind. (NT) -- Ernie, 17:14:00 07/06/13 Sat I don't remember her talent, but she is very pretty. (NT) -- cal, 17:25:12 07/06/13 Sat She is an opera singer, and NOT a good one! (NT) -- !, 17:53:14 07/06/13 Sat Re: She is an opera singer, and NOT a good one! (NT) -- she didn't always compete with opera. if they change her back, her stock will go up., 06:11:11 07/07/13 Sun The only thing I liked about the show was that formers were involved... short of that- it wasn't stellar. The top 15 wasn't nearly competitive enough (our talents beat theirs, hands down) and the host was very odd... (NT) -- ..., 18:01:36 07/06/13 Sat Texas was a better pageant. Prettier girls, better bodies, better show in all aspects. The talents were better in California, but NOTHING ELSE. (NT) -- FACT, 18:39:41 07/06/13 Sat Fact? No, that's called an opinion. And you're certainly welcome to express it. But pageants are totally subjective. The only thing factual about them are the results when they're over. (NT) -- Ernie Koneck, 18:48:17 07/06/13 Sat You are so right! That host dressed as a baby and acting ridiculous was wayyyyyyy better than our classy dance numbers! (NT) -- You MUST be from Texas. That's fine BUT stay on your own board please., 18:53:33 07/06/13 Sat So embarrassing, the mc's baby ventriloquist was pathetic! (NT) -- Come on Texas!, 05:08:29 07/07/13 Sun Agreed. The woman host was just awful and rambled, lost her place repeatedly... I did like the gentleman and would love to see him return with a better cohost. Also, it would be nice if Texas placed a larger emphasis on talent. (NT) -- Really tough to watch, 08:00:55 07/07/13 Sun I'm from the Midwest and watched both TX and CA online. I really appreciate the great Talent CA contestants displayed. I'm thankful that my state and CA still care about Talent! (NT) -- I can't see TX in the Top Ten at Miss America but IL and WA were pretty bad last year so you never know., 20:46:11 07/06/13 Sat I've seen California, Hawaii, New Jersey, Nevada, Tennessee, and Texas. In my OPINION Texas was the best pageant followed by Tennessee. Nevada was easily the worst with California a close 2nd worse. (NT) -- I call em as I see em, 23:27:08 07/06/13 Sat So what? We had fun and since there's no contest for the best pageant we don't care about what you think. We didn't go to all those other pageants. We're just concerned with our own state so we couldn't care less about other girls opening numbers or their emcees in other states. We're having our own fun. (NT) -- CA fan, 19:44:22 07/07/13 Sun There was no need to be hostile to the above poster. That person was merely giving an opinion as to what they saw. I felt your response was way over the top. Are you having a mental breakdown? (NT) -- Get some help., 20:20:46 07/07/13 Sun I think people from California on a California board can say anything they want about how much they don't care what other states do. Nothing mental about it. Why tell California they were the second worst in the whole union? (NT) -- You think we shouldn't tell someone we're having fun in CA and telling us we're awful does nothing to change our minds? You read too much into our desire to love what we do., 15:12:26 07/08/13 Mon I believer the poster was merely saying it was her/his opinion that after viewing 5/6 state pageants being web streamed California was the second worst next to Nevada. (NT) -- PEOPLE ARE ENTITLED TO THEIR OPINIONS, 15:20:39 07/10/13 Wed I understood them the first time. It doesn't mean we can't remind those that criticize so harshly that we don't care because we had so much fun. (NT) -- Too bad for them they weren't part of the magic., 20:19:52 07/10/13 Wed

Subject: Miss California's Outstanding Teen 2013 is Mikaela Harris, Miss Clovis OT
Author: Marge the Moderator [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:48:13 06/29/13 Sat Mikaela played an original song on the piano called "Seasons." She tied for Overall Interview winner. 1st runner-up: Hannah Huyck, Orange County 2nd runner-up, Kirstin Bangs, Los Angeles County 3rd runner-up, Sydney Claire Slaughter, El Dorado County 4th runner-up, Savannah Preuss, Culver City Miss Congeniality: Sydney Claire Slaughter Scholastic Achievement: Karisa You, Yorba Linda Community Service, Madison Curtis, Hollywood Overall Interview (tie): Mikaela Harris and Olivia Sichmiller, National Orange Show Nonfinalist Interview: Elizabeth Sams, San Fernando Valley Other Nonfinalist awards were announced at visitation, but I couldn't hear them. If anyone could fill in the blanks I would appreciate it. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Re: Miss California's Outstanding Teen 2013 is Mikaela Harris, Miss Clovis OT -- Clovis Fan, 09:26:00 07/03/13 Wed Non-Finalist Gown/Questions - High Dessert's OT, Non Finalist Talent - Santa Barbara's Co's OT, Non Finalist Phys Fitness TIE Dessert Vista's OT and No CA Reg OT -- Non-Finalist Teens, 06:55:16 07/09/13 Tue Who were the rest of the top twelve? (NT) -- ..., 12:54:18 07/10/13 Wed

Subject: MISS TEXAS PAGEANT IS BEING WEB STREAMED
Author: JAMES [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:35:30 07/05/13 Fri Th contestants aren't in the dark. Beautiful contestants, wonderful show. California could learn many things about professionalism of the Miss Texas Pageant. Webstream is crystal clear. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Bob just needs to get rid of Southwest video.... HORRIBLE QUALITY!!! (NT) -- come on, Bob! :-), 09:09:41 07/06/13 Sat Southwest Video has nothing to do with the stage lighting. If it were up to them, there would be much brighter video-oriented lighting. As someone correctly pointed out below, more lighting = more $$$, which is why it is as dark as it is. One small fix that wouldn't cost much, if anything, is if they used the rear projection screen to project very light or bright backgrounds - outdoor scenes for swimsuit, famous landmarks for evening wear, bright geometrics or patterns for talent that coordinated with contestant's outfit, and bolder, more up-to-date typography that said Miss California Pageant. At least they had those white drapes rolling down from the ceiling this year. Every little bit helps. (NT) -- Ernie Koneck, 10:42:17 07/06/13 Sat Ask Saroyan Theater to purchase a $50K white curtain and backdrop set. I'm sure they'll do it right away so they can be just like Texas. (NT) -- Better yet, maybe they can order the pink chiffon drapes with crown motifs., 09:16:18 07/06/13 Sat The only thing they need to do at Miss CA is TURN ON THE LIGHTS on the stage. It's dark because the lights are off, not because of SW or any other video. Burn time = $$$$. That's why we have our show in the dark. (NT) -- soleil, 09:18:22 07/06/13 Sat AGREE, TURN THE LIGHTS ON ON ON!! Even watching IN the theatre is TOO dark! (NT) -- Let there be light!!!, 09:20:40 07/06/13 Sat What are you over 60? You want the lights on? Just go over to the wall and switch the lights on!!! (NT) -- I think what's more important is turning on the air conditioning in the ballroom!!!!!!!!!!!!!, 10:56:10 07/06/13 Sat Did you miss the point, stupid? apparently you are over 60 and having hot flashes in the ballroom. We were talking about the stage at the saroyan. It's dark because the lights are kept low for cost reasons. (NT) -- Idio..., 19:00:43 07/06/13 Sat SOUTHWEST VIDEO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE STAGE LIGHTING. GET A CLUE ABOUT HOW A SHOW IS RUN. THEY DO THE VIDEO! (NT) -- GEEZ, 17:15:17 07/06/13 Sat Leah took all the credit for getting the web stream. Does she take any of the blame for all the problems? (NT) -- hmmm, 04:30:49 07/08/13 Mon No she didn't at all. I'm a contestant and the whole week she was saying to thank Bob and Kim McNicholas for how hard they worked thank you very much. Stop being so presumptuous. -- ., 05:11:41 07/08/13 Mon So perhaps the answer is finding another key sponsor (or a presenting sponsor?) that will provide enough funding to ramp up production? (NT) -- ?, 05:53:23 07/08/13 Mon Based on this discussion, the only problem with the web stream appears to be the lighting. Is that accurate? Or were there other problems no one has talked about? If it is strictly a lighting issue, that is handled between Bob and the Saroyan. Or anyone Bob delegates and the Saroyan. And it will cost money. So, yes, MCO either finds a "presenting sponsor" for the webcast to fund the increased lighting charges, ups the ticket price, or finds another way to pay for the higher lighting fees. (NT) -- Ernie, 05:59:38 07/08/13 Mon Professional lighting is extremely expensive. I know. (NT) -- Val, 11:45:11 07/08/13 Mon While I know we have used Southwest video for some time now, I just think his equipment is very far from up to par to produce a high quality video and web stream. You have to use a hi-definition camera in order to view it in hi-def and his equipment is just ancient in terms of what's out there now. The quality of the DVDs is terrible, especially for how much they cost. While the equipment isn't the only issue, it's a good place to start - find a new videographer with updated cameras! (NT) -- Former who has many low quality DVDs in her collection...., 16:49:42 07/08/13 Mon Well I have several videos from Southwest Video and they are all excellent. I think you're just a sore loser. (NT) -- get a clue, 17:34:53 07/08/13 Mon Wow. Rude and completely uncalled for. I'm far from a sore loser. I had a wonderful experience in this program and competed multiple times at the state level. I'm sure I'm not the only one thinks the videos are less than stellar. Have you watched them on a hi-def TV? (NT) -- Former, 03:57:25 07/09/13 Tue As I said before, this has little to do with the video. If the lighting were better you would have a better video. All one needs to do is compare the webstream to other states. It was piss poor. Don't blame the video company. Blame those who won't spend more money on decent lighting of that stage. (NT) -- Do you understand?, 08:09:42 07/09/13 Tue I agree. It seems very silly to blame the video company. Shooting a pageant or other event is an easy task. What makes it trying is when the stage lighting is less than ideal. This is the case with the Miss California Pageant. As an ED I know that stage lighting is important. It however is extremely costly. It is NOT the video companies responsibililty to provide lighting. It is always the responsibility of the event organizers. (NT) -- An E.D., 08:56:53 07/09/13 Tue ,, (NT) -- ,,, 04:45:14 07/10/13 Wed

Subject: Preliminary dates are starting to show up on the MCO website- other than the four currently listed, are any others decided?
Author: ? [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:34:44 07/08/13 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Is Laura Berger the one who outed Ernie and his partner, Ric.
Author: Head On A Stick Hunter [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:10:07 07/05/13 Fri In one of the multiple threads about LJB, someone called out Ernie for his connections to Jake Cruise and dug up all of that old news. It got me wondering. Is LJB the one who turned him in? It seemed so random that it would come up as a response to Ernie's dismay about her social media comments. Is LJB head on a stick? Thoughts? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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What is head on a stick? (NT) -- wondering, 14:43:02 07/05/13 Fri When this all was leaked to the press, some volunteers vowed not to rest until we had the heads of those who did it on a stick. Head on a stick. (NT) -- abacus, 19:08:55 07/06/13 Sat Lets not speculate because that is a serious accusation, but it would not surprise me. (NT) -- ....., 14:55:45 07/05/13 Fri If so, come on Laura, own it. You yourself said you are free from the need to be politically correct. It isn't an accusation. It's a question. (NT) -- abacus, 15:02:41 07/05/13 Fri Her silence says a lot. (NT) -- We all know you read this message board Laura. Time to come clean about what a hurtful person you truly are., 05:07:15 07/06/13 Sat All a mod would have to do is compare IP address. She was posting in here and signing her name... (NT) -- Just saying. There ARE ways of finally getting to the bottom of this!, 05:12:33 07/06/13 Sat In response to the request regarding IP addresses, click in: -- Marge the Moderator, 07:15:42 07/06/13 Sat Sounds like the Bergers decided the purge it all figuring they had nothing else to lose by saying what they've been keeping in for so long. All because she didn't win in spite of getting as far as she did? (NT) -- Oh well. So we all keep our attention on the sweet girls who loved their journey!, 11:00:50 07/06/13 Sat Laura was going to compete in DC and even trashed Bob to the DC ED. The DC ED called and told Bob. (NT) -- Does she ever learn., 12:04:50 07/06/13 Sat I wonder what Ernie thinks about all this? (NT) -- ??, 04:27:12 07/08/13 Mon I think anything is possible, but I am not in a position to make any accusations against any individuals without proof. The entire episode has been very hurtful and disturbing to me because it prevents me from doing something I love, and I don't know the motive or the rationale behind it. (more inside) -- Ernie Koneck, 07:01:05 07/08/13 Mon Ernie, I would KILL to have you working on those three projects. I am so hopeful that one day you'll be back in an official capacity- we NEED you. (NT) -- <3, 07:25:29 07/08/13 Mon Re: Ernie, I would KILL to have you working on those three projects. I am so hopeful that one day you'll be back in an official capacity- we NEED you. -- Let's get Ernie back!, 07:47:20 07/08/13 Mon This volunteer loves you and appreciates everything you do for our girls in an official capacity or not. MAO lost out big time when they chose to kick out such a dedicated volunteer. (NT) -- Cristine Strysko, 08:17:41 07/08/13 Mon I still don't know what the big deal is. He does/did the books for a adult production company. Hell somebody has to! All I can say is that it must have been one hell of a slow news week. I've said it before but, the national pageant had a judge that negogiated her own daughter's sex tape where she was urinated on, yet MAO forced out someone whose crime was doing keeping records and making sure taxes were paid for a company. (NT) -- JEEZ, 08:29:56 07/08/13 Mon Ernie, you have a great vision for this organization and I truly hope you will be able to return and help to put some or all of these things in place! (NT) -- Thanks for always being classy and professional., 11:04:53 07/08/13 Mon

Subject: Priorities
Author: please [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:02:39 07/06/13 Sat On this board there are only 2 threads dedicated to our beautiful new Miss California, Crystal Lee and 7 threads dedicated to our ugly ungrateful fourth runner up. Why must we focus so much on the negative when we have so much positive to discuss? What are our girls' chances at Miss America and MAOT? What are the plans for their homecomings? Who are some of the amazing young women we are thankful to have in our program? If people want to continue to count down the days the ugly ungrateful fourth runner up moves to West Virginia, they should start their own message board. Otherwise, there is nothing left to say about that subject. It is time to discard the rotten apple. Can we please focus on Crystal, Mikaela and all of the other amazing young women who participate in our program? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Thank you for this. Much of "Laura-gate" will start disappearing this weekend. Enough already. I am continually surprised at how the general tenor of this board so frequently turns to the negative when California has so much positive to be proud of. Maybe it's being taken for granted. Here's a suggestion - tell us something great and positive about the other 99 contestants who competed last week and how they felt about their Miss California experience. Heck, some of them may have enjoyed getting spray tanned! Haha! (NT) -- Marge the Moderator, 07:20:14 07/06/13 Sat While I agree that things need to focus more on the positive, I am disappointed that you had to call the 4th runner up ugly. You had a very good point. Too bad it is marred by unkind words. (NT) -- Just sayin', 08:18:36 07/06/13 Sat

Subject: New Local Franchises
Author: none [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:43:47 07/04/13 Thu I heard there are new franchises approved for next year. Azusa is returning. Oakland has been renamed East Bay Cities. Also Madera County, Kern County, and Palm Desert. Any others? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I don't see how there could be new franchises. Bob said he wouldn't take more than 60 girls. (NT) -- Are some franchises folding?, 12:50:12 07/04/13 Thu North Carolina used to have 100 girls just in the Miss divison. (NT) -- 60 is nothing. ( only 8 more than Miss America), 18:40:14 07/04/13 Thu For the room on stage and for Bob's limit for administrative purposes for his staff, he says 60 is the limit. SO WHAT if NC had 100!!! 100 contestants in CA would mean at least 6 nights of prelims! Who the hell would ever volunteer to head that up or even want to judge or attend? (NT) -- I'm glad Ca thinks more reasonably and keeps 60 as the limit., 19:11:27 07/04/13 Thu Teens would be seperate then. 100 contestants? 4 nights of prelims. Groups of 25. Do-able. (NT) -- Some people have no imagination. Think small, remain small., 19:53:11 07/04/13 Thu Calling each other "tards"? Really? I didn't realize the Miss California Organization had so many insensitive 8 year old fans. (NT) -- Marge the Moderator - you DO realize I don't get paid for this, don't you?, 10:42:21 07/05/13 Fri The teen program needs to be held separately. It's way too many girls now. Why not do this at orientation weekend? Use the hotel ballroom - not theatre. (NT) -- PLEASE!, 10:42:45 07/05/13 Fri Without talent you could have 200 plus and it wouldn't matter. Having to listen or watch 200 talents would make me want to barf really fast! (NT) -- x, 12:52:27 07/05/13 Fri Very excited for these! Do we know of any that won't be returning?? (NT) -- ?, 04:04:23 07/06/13 Sat

Subject: Crystal Lee Crowned Miss California 2013
Author: pageantnews [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 03:35:14 06/30/13 Sun Miss Silicon Valley 2013 Crystal Lee was crowned Miss California 2013 The first runner-up was Miss South Coast Caylynn Simonson, 22, of Bakersfield. The second runner-up was Miss Culver City Katy Tang, 24, of Anaheim. The third runner-up was Miss Central Coast Jordan Krinke of Placentia. The fourth runner-up was Miss Pasadena Laura Berger of Glendale. http://beautypageantnews.com/crystal-lee-crowned-miss-california-2013/ [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Congrats Crystal!!! For those of us at home, can someone tell who the swimsuit prelim winners were or are? (NT) -- MISS A HERE WE COME., 04:11:06 06/30/13 Sun GUESSING Crystal was one of the SS winners but dislike her SS!! (NT) -- !, 04:41:17 06/30/13 Sun Re: GUESSING Crystal was one of the SS winners but dislike her SS!! (NT) -- me too! her suit was unique, but uglg as sin! she looked great though, 06:11:19 06/30/13 Sun Re: Crystal Lee Crowned Miss California 2013 -- Dr, 07:19:05 06/30/13 Sun I love how they put the real city next tothe title name. Interesting. (NT) -- Was Crystal the only one "from" her area?, 23:48:11 06/30/13 Sun I'm trying to interpret what you mean by your question, but I'll take a stab at it. While the title was Miss Pasadena, the franchise territory included Glendale, which is right next door, so Laura Berger was also "from" her area. Is that what you meant? The other three finalists held open titles, which are statewide, so in effect, they too, were "from" their areas (the state of CA) though not from the area of the particular title. (NT) -- Ernie Koneck, 05:19:04 07/01/13 Mon and Crystal Lee from San Francisco. I remember the days when the contestant had to live in the community she represented. (NT) -- times change, 13:51:52 07/02/13 Tue Uh, she went to Stanford. Can't get much more Silicon Valley than that. . (NT) -- Geez, 13:59:31 07/02/13 Tue Yes - Those were the days money wasn't the priority for the State ED who only cares about increasing numbers of franchises. Sick. But in Crystal's case she's as silicon valley as they come. (NT) -- Go Stanford!, 10:51:59 07/05/13 Fri

Subject: Who does everyone want for next year!
Author: So much Talent, Beauty, Intellig. with the class of 2013 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01:27:58 07/04/13 Thu So--who does everyone want to have back up the next go around? I really loved this group--they had a great time and they were genuinely happy at the end of it all (of course everyone goes up to win, but I think there was not one person who thought CL was not qualified for the next step, [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Too early to tell. Let them unpack and finish out their year first before we name names here on this crazy place. (NT) -- Just saying, 19:21:29 07/04/13 Thu

Subject: On the lighter side, look at Leah's awesome arm in the teen crowning photo! LOL, she's still got it! Love our CA girls!
Author: So happy for our new titleholders too! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 05:04:12 07/04/13 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Lol! Go Leah and Go Core Arts Pilates! (NT) -- Looking good! Aren't they all beautiful!!!, 19:16:11 07/04/13 Thu

Subject: Some trivia about our new Miss California, Crystal Lee
Author: Tom Moletteire [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 05:20:07 07/03/13 Wed 1) She is the 4th Miss California to claim San Francisco as her hometown. 2) She is the first Miss Silicon Valley to win. 3) She is the second Stanford student/graduate to win. (Both studied Human Biology.) 4) She is the sixteenth dancer 5) She is the eighth ballerina (interestingly the fourth in 6 years.) 6) She is the second to dance to "The Swan." 7) She is the third Chinese-American to win. 8) She is the second Miss California's Outstanding Teen to win. 9) Since MCO started announcing Evening Wear preliminary winners in 2002, she is the seventh Evening Wear winner to win. 10) She earned her Masters in Communication concurrently with her Bachelors in Human Biology. 11) She is an entrepreneur as co-founder of Nanoly. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Love Crystal! (NT) -- So Cool!, 06:16:00 07/03/13 Wed We have a beautiful, talented, charming, educated, humble, Miss CA! Are we SO FORTUNATE! (NT) -- Looking forward to this new year with an outstanding Miss CA!, 06:22:52 07/03/13 Wed I think we have an excellent shot at Miss America. The competition though is the gorgeous and talented Miss Virginia. (NT) -- We shall see, 07:06:58 07/03/13 Wed She sounds incredible!! (NT) -- Good Luck to her!!, 08:05:39 07/03/13 Wed Who was the second Chinese American titleholder? (NT) -- ...., 08:21:06 07/03/13 Wed Rita Ng-2000, Veena Goel-2004, and now Crystal Lee. (NT) -- James, 08:33:38 07/03/13 Wed Veena is half Indonesian and half Indian. (NT) -- Tom Moletteire, 08:45:38 07/03/13 Wed Noelle Freeman is part Chinese. (NT) -- Tom Moletteire, 08:47:02 07/03/13 Wed Veena's mom is Chinese from Indonesia (NT) -- ..., 11:14:50 07/03/13 Wed Rita, Crystal, both lovely ladies ! I think this is CA's year! (NT) -- Go Crystal!, 08:57:45 07/03/13 Wed Very impressive! Lets go CA! (NT) -- Congrats Crystal!, 08:28:00 07/03/13 Wed Also forgot to mention that 3 of the last 4 Misses California participated in the outstanding teen program. Crystal, Leah, and Arianna. Of course Crystal and Arianna won MCOT and Leah was a RU. (NT) -- Tom Moletteire, 08:39:18 07/03/13 Wed Crystal is the 4th girl of chinese decent. Rita Ng, Veena Goel, Noell Freeman and now Crystal. (NT) -- Bob, 12:00:34 07/03/13 Wed As stated above, Veena is not Chinese. She is Indian and Indonesian. We do have one other Miss CA who is part Asian - Kristy Cavinder is 1/4 Japanese. (NT) -- Ernie, 15:36:14 07/03/13 Wed Ernie, Veena is definately part chinese, although mother was FROM Indonesia. (NT) -- ok, 16:47:11 07/03/13 Wed Love me some Crystal! (NT) -- The Ultimate Momma, 14:26:21 07/03/13 Wed whatyear was she maot (NT) -- catalina, 16:47:45 07/03/13 Wed 2008 (NT) -- Ernie, 07:53:42 07/04/13 Thu Will Crystal dance the swan at Miss America or will she change? (NT) -- wondering, 04:23:01 07/04/13 Thu keeping the swan! (NT) -- !, 11:33:51 07/04/13 Thu

Subject: California�s Delegate to 2013 National Sweetheart Program
Author: MLB [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 09:02:02 07/03/13 Wed Since Caylynn Simonson competed at last year�s program and Katy Tang and Laura Berger aged out, will Jordan Krinke be this year�s representative or is it too early to make a determination? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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If Jordan wants to go, it's hers. If not, who knows if they will dig into 6th-10th to send a representative. (NT) -- abacus, 09:16:46 07/03/13 Wed If I remember correctly, that is no longer an option. Also, a contestant must not be aging out and may only go once. New rules were enacted a couple years back (NT) -- ..., 21:40:41 07/03/13 Wed Jordan is definitely going to Sweetheart. She's very excited. (NT) -- Ernie, 10:45:57 07/03/13 Wed I'll bet she does great! T10 easy! (NT) -- No one dances like Jordan!, 17:33:31 07/03/13 Wed

Subject: I think the pics are too big and screwing up the format. They are beautiful pics but I think too big.
Author: Fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:31:49 07/03/13 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: New Pictures Top of Page
Author: Thank YOU! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:01:32 07/03/13 Wed Marge, Thank you so much for the updated pics of our newly crowned Miss and Teen Titleholders! So excited and looking forward to both ladies! Best of Luck to Both! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Crystal exudes pure joy! No ugly cry face! Just sheer joy! (NT) -- Go Crystal!, 17:16:44 07/03/13 Wed

Subject: MCOT 2013 Mikaela Harris Miss Clovis Outstanding Teen
Author: Clovis Fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:12:52 06/28/13 Fri Miss California's Outstanding Teen 2013 Miss Clovis Outstanding Teen Mikaela Harris!!! Outstanding young woman who wholly deserves it. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I read kristen bangs from la was second runner up. who were the rest of the top five? (NT) -- ., 20:38:44 06/28/13 Fri Re: I read kristen bangs from la was second runner up. who were the rest of the top five? -- Clovis Fan, 04:48:30 07/03/13 Wed Re: MCOT 2013 Mikaela Harris Miss Clovis Outstanding Teen -- Mcot, 22:05:23 06/28/13 Fri just found out that culver city was fourth runner up. (NT) -- loved the first runner up, cute as a button, 02:49:28 06/29/13 Sat Re: MCOT 2013 Mikaela Harris Miss Clovis Outstanding Teen -- fan, 10:02:23 06/29/13 Sat Re: MCOT 2013 Mikaela Harris Miss Clovis Outstanding Teen -- Teen Fan, 10:11:50 06/29/13 Sat Re: MCOT 2013 Mikaela Harris Miss Clovis Outstanding Teen -- fan, 10:06:00 06/29/13 Sat

Subject: RE: LAURA BERGER
Author: Liking her [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:11:33 07/02/13 Tue I wrote below but I wanted to reiterate how refreshing I think Laura is. Here is a young lady who devoted a few years to competing for Miss California. She put her heart and soul into it, and did quite well. When it came down to her Q&A she answered forthrightly, without trying to give a poticially correct responce to appease the judges. I can see why she won the Interview Award. In closing, isn't the Miss America Pageant all about telling the individual contestants to be themselves? With so many pageant contestants falling all over themselves to give an answer that won't alienate a judges final score, she stood out there and gave her honest answer. I think many contestants in future pageants can learn from her example. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I did not think answer was refreshing at all. To be honest if this happened under a Republican Administration chances are she would have answered dresifferently. Her Facebook ponses says it all and contridicts your opinion of her "freshness and honesty." (NT) -- .., 17:13:15 07/02/13 Tue Judges have already filled out their Final Ballot before Question and Answer, her answer did not matter (NT) -- l, 17:21:25 07/02/13 Tue So you're telling me a girl can give a South Carolina Teen USA answer ( see maps) and still win because the question has no baring? Wow, that could be dangerous. (NT) -- l, 18:17:56 07/02/13 Tue True. During the final question the judges are ranking the contestants. They're not even listening. The final questions for the T5 is just a time filler. Yes, if she said the world was flat at that moment then she could still be Miss Ca but that wouldn't happen because she has already gone through so many levels of competition to get that far. USA SC have different formats, that's why so many if their girls give goofier answers. (NT) -- Little momma, 21:18:08 07/02/13 Tue What is the link to her page? (NT) -- I found about 15 Laura Bergers on Facebook, 17:35:51 07/02/13 Tue That is about how many Laura Bergers competed for Miss California. lol... (NT) -- toodles, 18:49:28 07/02/13 Tue

Subject: Miss CA at Miss America 2013 pageant
Author: fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:51:41 01/19/13 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Great job! (NT) -- Wendy Woo, 14:34:53 07/02/13 Tue

Subject: AH, THE MEMORIES OF SANTA CRUZ AND MISS CALIFORNIA
Author: BIG MOMMA [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 09:58:35 06/02/13 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I love this! (NT) -- Esther, 21:35:41 06/06/13 Thu I want a girl just like the girl that married dear old dad. (NT) -- refreshing from the 50's, 13:54:07 07/02/13 Tue Re: AH, THE MEMORIES OF SANTA CRUZ AND MISS CALIFORNIA (NT) -- This is so amazing, 15:09:11 06/12/13 Wed I was just in Santa Cruz for the past three days and it was so amazing to see how many restaurants had pictures of the former Miss California contestants. There is Miss California history everywhere! I was talking to the owner of one of the restaurants and I told him I was a local director and he said "I wish Miss California was still here". There was so much to do and staying at the Dream Inn was a dream. I took some pictures but I do not know how to post them on this board. (NT) -- April Smith, 05:57:06 06/14/13 Fri Re: I was just in Santa Cruz for the past three days and it was so amazing to see how many restaurants had pictures of the former Miss California contestants. There is Miss California history everywhere! I was talking to the owner of one of the restaurants and I told him I was a local director and he said "I wish Miss California was still here". There was so much to do and staying at the Dream Inn was a dream. I took some pictures but I do not know how to post them on this board. -- Heather, 07:49:59 06/14/13 Fri Unfortunately, Santa Cruz was less than welcoming toward the end of the Miss California days and it was a hostile time for the contestants. It may have changed, but even when the Miss Santa Cruz County Organization ran their program a few years ago, they had to hold the swimsuit portion of the pageant behind closed doors before the pageant started. Sad, but true. I would love to see the pageant move elsewhere, but Fresno is welcoming to the program and the contestants. (NT) -- April Smith, 09:59:45 06/14/13 Fri I was told Bob was awarded the Miss California franchise under the condition that he move the pageant out of Santa Cruz. The protests were taking on a violent vibe which escalated each year and required significant police presence. When the feminists followed MCO to San Diego, it was moved to Fresno. It appears even the feminists won't endure Fresno for their cause since they have not followed us there.. lol... I would not be surprised if that is a signifacant factor in choosing to keep the pageant there. (NT) -- Tom Moletteire, 13:28:17 06/14/13 Fri In all fairness to the "dictators," there are a lot of considerations involved in moving an event as big as Miss CA to a new city. (more inside) -- Ernie Koneck, 10:04:43 06/14/13 Fri Exactly Ernie! Many details to work out. Sick of the whining about it. Maybe the whiner about the venue/location/production in Fresno could head up the search committee. (NT) -- Someone ask Bob how long MCO is in with Fresno so they know the time table to work and plan., 13:53:27 06/21/13 Fri Excellent suggestion. I always thought Sacramento would be the perfect fit. (NT) -- Jenna, 07:06:10 06/15/13 Sat Times have changed (NT) -- no name, 18:25:15 06/17/13 Mon Nothing will happen until you try. It's called an RFP, I think Miss CA is going to start losing franchises since Fresno has become NOT welcoming as in the beginning. Every year we have issues with the Host hotel, Host hotel means they "host" it. You can get a better deal on hotel.com for pricing then going through the Miss CA group. I'm sure that Bob is well taken care of but the rest of us it's just a hotel. (NT) -- We need to keep moving forward not backwards, 05:45:44 06/21/13 Fri If you use your AAA card at the Radisson you get a $99 rate and if you use the friends and family rate of Miss Califoria it is $119 and you cannot even use your club carlson nights if you try. (NT) -- cash strapped, 18:36:34 06/21/13 Fri I wish the Radisson didn't smell. (NT) -- When you walk in its either chicken nuggets or chlorine., 06:51:12 06/22/13 Sat I wonder if there's some way we could get them to add warm cinnamon buns and fresh cut flowers to the fragrance mix. (NT) -- Ernie, 05:25:24 06/23/13 Sun I wish! (NT) -- Ha!!, 15:10:18 06/23/13 Sun

Subject: Newcomers
Author: Newt [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:21:01 06/30/13 Sun Did any of the first timers stand out and show potential? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Gabriela Garcia & Rachel Fatiuk made top 15; Raquel won prelim talent. Ashley Dennis made top 12 & won prelim talent. Unfortunately, Raquel aged out. At the risk of leaving girls out inadvertently, other 1st timers that showed lots of potential included Ariel Ranirez (Blythe - former OT), Tayler Wolfe (Central Valley), Rita Garabet (Covina Valley), Aimee Le (Fountain Valley), Salisha Thomas (Fullerton - if she doesn't end up on Broadway first), Aysia Pennell (Ladera Heights), Paige Shaw (Marin County (NFT - former OT), Kimberly Bebo (Nat'l Ornage Show - former OT), Jillian Smith (No. CA Regional - former OT), Ashley Newman (Sacramento County - NFT), Kelsey Schwarz (San Diego), Adrienne Berry (San Fernando Valley - former OT), Heidi Cheung (San Francisco - former OT), Mackenzie Freed (San Joaquin County), Molly Crawford (former OT), Angela Laird (Solano), Ashley Kimball (Sonoma County - NFT), Alisha Ginsburg (Tulare County), Kara Smoot (Ventura County), and Kaitlin Urell (Yorba Linda). (NT) -- Ernie Koneck, 05:40:35 07/01/13 Mon Aimee Le is done, as well as Salisha Thomas. (NT) -- Both have other plans in the near future., 06:18:38 07/01/13 Mon Such a shame about Raquel fatiuk. She is so lovely and talented. (NT) -- Age range should be 17-26., 13:53:03 07/02/13 Tue Re: Newcomers -- I Was There, 14:00:16 07/01/13 Mon Probably her mother posting this above. (NT) -- LOL, 10:57:32 07/02/13 Tue Gabriela Garcia & Ashley Dennis were also former local OT's (NT) -- Shows that the OT pageant does help recruit new Miss contestants, 10:57:11 07/02/13 Tue Cool! I didn't know that about them. Did either place or win any special awards at CAOT? (NT) -- ?, 12:30:32 07/02/13 Tue No, not in the top 10/15 nor any awards (NT) -- if I remember correctly..., 13:04:11 07/02/13 Tue

Subject: Speaking of aging out....
Author: . [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:36:40 07/02/13 Tue Who has aged out for sure after this year? I know Laura Jean Berger and Raquel Fatiuk have. Others listed as 24 are Echoe Malone, Katy Tang, Ashley Newman, Courtney Trouten. Anyone know who I missed? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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A really good reason the age range should be 17-28. (NT) -- cc, 12:44:49 07/02/13 Tue I think that 28 is a bit high. If all states were required to allow winnings to go towards student loans, I wouldn't mind seeing the top age back at 26. (NT) -- ., 12:49:28 07/02/13 Tue I'm the person who said 28, however 26 wouild be a great compromise that I believe all the powers at be would entertain. At least I hope so. (NT) -- bb, 13:44:52 07/02/13 Tue Three more are Christina Alcaraz, Megan Wisler and Annie Wilson (NT) -- Will miss them all, 13:00:18 07/02/13 Tue Aww. I loved Annie's talent. So entertaining! Does Smolka have 1 yr left? (NT) -- ?, 13:06:35 07/02/13 Tue Smolka is also aged out. (NT) -- :), 13:24:39 07/02/13 Tue

Subject: I am also a proud conservative who is very proud to live in California and is especially proud of the Miss California program. The leadership , volunteers, and especially the contestants are great people with big hearts. These people work hard and represent our state well. There is no need to put any other state down in order to promote our program. It speaks for itself.
Author: Wish they all could be California girls! [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 06:51:34 07/02/13 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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The leadership needs to have a change. When you have ED's , Contestant's families and friends spending ridiculous $ on tickets and you get treated like the crap on someone's shoe when you go to pick up your ticket packets. Linda Dash needs to go, she's so unorganized, bitchy and unprofessional. The tickets should already be done and in the packets when we all arrive on tuesday. You should be able go over to the window request you packet and everything should be there for the week. No gala tickets were in, the luncheon tickets (they ran out of color paper) so couldn't print any, really people I'm sure if you tried you could find a Staples or Office Depot ? Gala tickets families and friends were not sitting together. My god Linda, since you are retired so to a event planning class. This needs to be handed off to someone that has a c lue as to what's going on. And don't type she's such a great volunteer. Even with volunteering if you can't do the job correctly decline it. (NT) -- Disgusted family member, 09:58:45 07/02/13 Tue

Subject: Can someone post who the top 15 and top 10 were? Thank yuu
Author: Ashley [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:10:21 06/30/13 Sun Just curious who the top 15 and top 10 were. I never saw it posted anywhere. Thank you! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Top 15 - Miss Golden Gate Raquel Fatiuk, Miss Orange County Megan Wisler, Miss Tarzana Gabriela Garcia. Top 12 Miss Covina Ashley Dennis, Miss North County Bree Morse. Top 10 Miss City of Orange Stephanie Patterson, Miss Hollywood Lauren Smolka, Miss Monterey Bay Marina Inserra, Miss Placentia Carly Valdes, Miss Southland Annie Wilson. 4th ru - Miss Pasadena Laura Berger, 3rd ru Miss Central Coast Jordan Krinke, 2nd ru Miss Culver City Katy Tang, 1st ru Miss South Coast Caylynn Simonson, and Miss California 2013 some drop dead gorgeous, brilliant chick with a rockin' swimsuit body and a great ballet talent. Can't remember her name though. Haha! (NT) -- Ernie Koneck, 11:54:57 07/01/13 Mon

Subject: Who is going to Miss America?
Author: Crystal's Cheering Squad [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:20:32 06/30/13 Sun Can someone post the dates, hotels and any airline deals they have found, PLEASE! Do you think they have enough planes and hotel space for all of us? Here comes California! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Get with Crystal's family. They will be sent an email with attachments for ticket deals and info regarding the hotel packages. Hopefully someone from her camp will post the information and you can get in on it. (NT) -- Start looking for airline deals and let us all know what you find., 20:00:17 06/30/13 Sun If you email me, I will gladly send you information regarding Miss America. As of right now, we only need to contact Bob to tell him we are attending. Parade tickets are already on sale and I can send you that info now. (NT) -- mary.mccaman@gmail.com, 10:56:36 07/01/13 Mon

Subject: Ernie- did they not announce as prelim winners this year? Thanks in advance:-)!
Author: Ss winners?? [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 09:01:21 07/01/13 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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They did not announce prelim swimsuit winners on stage, and I'm pretty sure they were not announced at the Gala either. However, Leah posted on Facebook that Crystal was a triple prelim winner, including swimsuit, so maybe she knows who the other swimsuit winners were. Last year, they forgot to announce a few awards, and later presented those awards to the winners, so maybe the same thing will happen with swimsuit prelims this year. (NT) -- Ernie, 09:54:06 07/01/13 Mon

Subject: Crystal Lee wins Miss California
Author: it is official [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:34:13 06/29/13 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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TOLD YOU!!!! Congratulations Crystal, bring the Miss America home, finally, to CA!!!! (NT) -- GO Crystal!, 20:10:42 06/29/13 Sat

Subject: Miss CA 2013 - Crystal Lee
Author: DD [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:29:49 06/29/13 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Re: Miss CA 2013 - Crystal Lee -- MJK, 19:31:31 06/29/13 Sat 4th - Pasadena, 3rd - Central Coast, 2nd -Culver City, 1st - South Coast (NT) -- DD, 19:43:50 06/29/13 Sat

Subject: Top Five ~Central Coast, Silicon Valley, South Central, Pasadena & Culver City
Author: DD [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:56:53 06/29/13 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Re: Top Five ~Central Coast, Silicon Valley, South Central, Pasadena & Culver City (NT) -- I had annie, marina and Lauren in my personal top five. good job ladies., 19:05:18 06/29/13 Sat Surprised with the top 5 (NT) -- But at least Miss Silicon Valley...Crystal Lee is the winner, 19:17:23 06/29/13 Sat Re: Top Five ~Central Coast, Silicon Valley, South Central, Pasadena & Culver City -- eileen, 19:22:25 06/29/13 Sat Re: Top Five ~Central Coast, Silicon Valley, South Central, Pasadena & Culver City -- Crystal Fan, 19:26:18 06/29/13 Sat

Subject: A tribute to our Miss California 2012 -- Leah Cecil
Author: From the California Class of 2013 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 09:01:40 06/15/13 Sat Something Ernie and a couple of others wrote on another post made me want to post this. I have been a contestant in MCO for more than 1 time, as a competing (local) teen and as a multiple Miss (local and state) and I want to say that this year has been very different. I have been at state more than once and this year the feeling and precedent set is unusually positive and I really feel that its because of Leah. CLICK IN BELOW [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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CLICK IN>HERE -- California Class 2013, 09:24:18 06/15/13 Sat Beautiful tribute! We ED's and volunteers 100% agree. Leah has been a joy! (NT) -- California girls have been lucky to know her!, 12:44:03 06/15/13 Sat Last chance to acknowledge Leah. She's done so much for us girls and we've had so much fun with her this week. She's been so positive and kept our spirits up when she's been so busy. (NT) -- Just wanted to give last shout! Thanks Leah and lots of love, 11:56:49 06/29/13 Sat

Subject: Miss California takes New York!
Author: Fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:59:36 04/23/13 Tue Beautiful Miss California and our Queens from the past! Kristy, Leah, Jacquelynne, and Melissa Its so wonderful to see them having fun together and support each other! "> "> [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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How fun is this?! Does anyone know why they are all together in NYC? Love seeing all the traveling. (NT) -- Just Curious..., 05:30:59 04/24/13 Wed Leah is there promoting American Pistachio Growers and she contacted all of them to get together! (NT) -- Nice to see formers getting along, 15:11:15 04/24/13 Wed Actually these amazing women were a great support system to Leah leading up to Miss America. They saw Leah was planning a trip to NY so they all arranged to meet and be with Chelle too. Arianna and Veena have done a lot with Leah too i've seen. It's so great to see them support each other and feel such a comaraderie with each other! (NT) -- Classy ladies!, 22:20:02 04/25/13 Thu Jacquie is back and forth between NYC and CA, no? Kristy lives there now... I'm guessing Melissa does too? (NT) -- ?, 06:21:30 04/24/13 Wed Melissa is a working actress. She just finished performing in "Spamalot" on the road. New York City is home base for her. (NT) -- Ken, 10:09:27 06/29/13 Sat Thanks for the pictures. It nice to get updates on past titleholders. (NT) -- Cali Fan, 07:21:10 04/24/13 Wed Re: Miss California takes New York! -- pageant fan (happy), 09:50:24 06/29/13 Sat

Subject: Final Outstanding Teen results/scholarship amounts available via the Miss Garden Grove blog
Author: FYI [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:57:01 06/29/13 Sat http://www.missgardengrove.org/miss-californias-outstanding-teen-2013-results/ [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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My girls in the top 15....yippie! (NT) -- Can't wit to watch her tonight, 08:27:51 06/29/13 Sat

Subject: Will we start moving away from "at large" teen entries now that we have capped the amount of state contestants?
Author: Seems reasonable, and fair. [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:58:40 06/27/13 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Doubt there's a "cap" for the largest population state. More likely a 5th prelim night LOL (NT) -- jmho, 20:33:31 06/28/13 Fri Bob said that the goal is to have 40 teen contestants, all coming from local programs. Appointed teens will continue to be accepted until we get to that point, but at large entries will be strongly discouraged. (NT) -- Jilah Benn, 22:37:52 06/28/13 Fri

Subject: The duet with Leah and her mother was stunning. Leah has brought such great heart to our year <3
Author: CA fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:39:21 06/28/13 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I love Leah's Farewell Letter in the program book is so impressive! I love how she speaks to everyone, not just insiders. What a great Miss California! (NT) -- So impressed. Nice job, Leah, and thank you., 13:44:13 06/28/13 Fri I hope they will play again tomorrow night. Will they? (NT) -- Standing ovation was perfect response to such a great performance!, 22:20:55 06/28/13 Fri

Subject: Top 12: Golden Empire, Garden Grove, Culver City, Nat Orange Show, San Fran, Orange Co., LA County, El Dorado County. Kings County, Clovis
Author: na [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:24:25 06/28/13 Fri Here is your Miss CA OT Top 12!!!! Hollywood Fresno County Golden Empire Garden Grove Culver City National Orange Show San Francisco Orange County Los Angeles County El Dorado County Kings County Clovis [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Miss CA Class of 2013
Author: lexis_PA [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 09:08:43 05/08/13 Wed (L-R) -Katie Wayland - Miss Anaheim Hills (Vocal, Vision 2 Victory) -Katie Fernquist - Miss Antelope Cities (Dance, The Power of Pet Adoption) -Ariel Ramirez - Miss Blythe (Instrumental � Piano, Teaching the Power of Service to Young Girls) -Prisca Shiralian - Miss Central California Regional (Instrumental � Piano, Valuing Our Disabled Children) -Jordan Krinke - Miss Central Coast (Dance, Training the Talent of Tomorrow: Dance Certification) -Tayler Wolfe - Miss Central Valley (Vocal, Every Monday Matters) -Echoe Malone - Miss City of Inglewood (Monologue, Tease No More: Anti-Bullying Campaign) -Stephanie Patterson - Miss City of Orange (Instrumental � Piano, American Cancer Society: The Official Sponsor of Birthdays) -Jenny Tormey - Miss Clovis (Vocal, Integrating Arts Into Education) -Ashley Dennis - Miss Covina (Dance, Every Body is Beautiful � The Fight Against Eating Disorders) -Rita Garabet - Miss Covina Valley (Dance, Vehicle Safety Awareness) -Katy Tang - Miss Culver City (Vocal, Sing for Hope: Power of Music) -Suzi Zang - Miss Desert Vista (Dance, Be Active! Be Healthy!) -Aimee Le - Miss Fountain Valley (Instrumental � Piano, Aiming High for Disabled Children) -Elizabeth Farr - Miss Fresno County (Vocal, Service for Sight) -Salisha Thomas - Miss Fullerton (Vocal, Spotlighting Children with Disabilities) -Missy Mendoza - Miss Garden Grove (Vocal, D.U.I. Prevention and Awareness) -Michelle Chang - Miss Gavilan Hills (Dance, Improving Access to Quality Environmental Education) -Raquel Fatiuk - Miss Golden Gate (Vocal, Empowering Victims of Sexual Abuse) -Milena Grgas - Miss Greater Delta Valley (Dance, Voice Over Violence) -Dani Alcantar - Miss Greater Inland Empire (Dance, Keeping the Arts in Public Schools) -Bianca Johnson - Miss Greater Victor Valley (Dance, Combat Against Human Trafficking and Slavery) -Kristian O'Neil - Miss High Desert (Dance, The Blue Star Mothers) -Lauren Smolka - Miss Hollywood (Vocal, Rachel�s Challenge: Start a Chain Reaction) -Bailee Lyles - Miss Kings County (Dance, Mental Illness Awareness) -Aysia Pennell - Miss Ladera Heights (Monologue, Breast Cancer Awareness in Young Women) -Laura Pankratz - Miss Lake County (Vocal, Beauty Starts On The Inside) -Anna Matias - Miss Los Angeles County (Vocal, A Better World Starts With Your Community) -Paige Shaw - Miss Marin County (Dance, Inspiring Girls to be Super Scientists!) -Jill Santos - Miss Mendocino County (Instrumental � Piano, Music and Art Therapy for the Elderly) -Nikki Schiber - Miss Merced County (Monologue, Adopt a Grandparent) -Marina Inserra - Miss Monterey Bay (Vocal, Breast Cancer Awareness) -Noeli Cardenas-Zamora - Miss Napa County (Dance, Early Intervention in Troubled Teens) -Kimberly Bebo - Miss National Orange Show (Vocal, Mentoring Outstanding Teens) -Olivia Polkinghorne - Miss North Coast (Vocal, Affordable Education through Community College) -Bree Morse - Miss North County (Dance, Service for Sight) -Jillian Smith - Miss Northern California Regional (Instrumental � Piano, Arts Awareness) -Megan Wisler - Miss Orange County (Vocal, Take Heart � American Heart Association) -Laura Jean Berger - Miss Pasadena (Instrumental � Piano, Talk It Out: Ending Violence and Bullying Through Peer Mediation) -Carly Valdes - Miss Placentia (Vocal, After the School Bell Rings) -Ashley Newman - Miss Sacramento County (Ventriloquism, Dream Builders: Empowering Youth) -Izamar Olaguez - Miss San Bernardino County (Vocal, Knowledge is Power: Promoting Higher Education) -Kelsey Schwarz - Miss San Diego (Vocal, Drunk Driving Awareness and Prevention through Education) -Adrienne Berry - Miss San Fernando Valley (Dance, Get Scoliosis Straight) -Heidi Cheung - Miss San Francisco (Instrumental � Piano, Giving Hope by Giving Back: America Cancer Society) -MacKenzie Freed - Miss San Joaquin Valley (Vocal, Using I Can Sign Dolls To Promote Deaf Education) -Molly Crawford - Miss Santa Clara (Dance, Beyond Beauty for Girls) -Christina Alcaraz - Miss Sierra Nevada (Vocal, Foster Care Alumni of America) -Crystal Lee - Miss Silicon Valley (Dance, Girls in S.T.E.M (Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math) -Angela Laird - Miss Solano (Vocal, Get Ticked Off at Lyme Disease!) -Ashley Kimball - Miss Sonoma County (Instrumental � Violin, Enriching Children�s Lives Through Theatre) -Caylynn Simonson - Miss South Coast (Vocal, Supporting Families Challenged by Cancer) -Courtney Trouten - Miss South Counties (Dance, Building a Brighter Tomorrow Through Youth Mentoring) -Annie Wilson - Miss Southland (Vocal, Mentoring America�s Future) -Gabriela Garcia - Miss Tarzana (Vocal, Share Your Story) -Alisha Ginsberg - Miss Tulare County (Dance, Embracing the Special Needs Child) -Shea Marie Frates - Miss Tustin (Monologue, Kids Konnected: Cancer Support and Education for the Whole Family) -Kara Smoot - Miss Ventura County (Vocal, Voices for the Arts) -Carley Ryckman - Miss Woodland Hills (Dance, Have a Heart, Lend a Hand) -Kaitlin Urell - Miss Yorba Linda (Vocal, Let�s End Domestic Violence) -Julianna Johnson - Miss Yosemite Valley (Dance, The Gift of Sight) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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What a great class of gals! It's going to be a great show! (NT) -- Top 5 is going to be hard to pick from., 12:59:29 05/28/13 Tue Re: What a great class of gals! It's going to be a great show! (NT) -- rita, 23:41:16 06/21/13 Fri Re: Miss CA Class of 2013 (NT) -- love this, 15:01:00 06/12/13 Wed What beautiful headshots! (NT) -- !!, 15:16:59 06/12/13 Wed Now THIS is my kind of pageant. I'm very excited to meet the class of '13 and see them on stage. I 've had a hunch for quite some time that this is going to be a very special group, and so far, they have lived up to that hunch. They seem to be extraordinarily friendly and helpful to each other as they prepare, and they all seem to be working really hard to be their very best once they hit Fresno. And they're having a lot of fun along the way. Go Cali girls! (NT) -- Ernie Koneck, 09:27:49 06/13/13 Thu I agree with you Ernie and I think a lot of that friendliness is due to the tone Leah has set. She has encouraged us to rise above the typical pageant girl attitude. As a contestant I really look forward to next week and the fun we'll have. (NT) -- Thank you Leah!, 07:32:28 06/15/13 Sat Re: Miss CA Class of 2013 -- The Pace of the Group is set by the Leader, 08:51:19 06/15/13 Sat No truer words! (NT) -- She is OUR Leah and a debt of gratitude to her raising the bar of titleholders with a sense of duty to sisterhood, support, and leadership. What an amazing example she has been to our girls!, 12:40:34 06/15/13 Sat Good Luck to all the ladies!!!! (NT) -- !, 12:31:55 06/16/13 Sun There are so many strong girls this year. No telling who will go all the way. So many possibilities (NT) -- tutu, 18:43:51 06/17/13 Mon

Subject: A Note From The Moderator

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Date Posted: 08:21:35 06/20/13 Thu

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