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Date Posted: Sun April 17, 2005 20:37:01
Author: JCC
Subject: Yes, but does calling the Trustees things like "spineless" and "self-serving bums" help us to (as you put it) "get the ear of that one BOT member to lobby this cause?" And why do you think that ONE Trustee will be able to singlehandedly push through the needed changes? Like all of us, the Trustees have egos, and--since many are wealthy, important individuals--they generally don't take well to being attacked. Rather than buckle under to such pressure, their tendency would be to "circle the wagons," and not give in. While I would agree with you that a lot of people in authority at Fordham have dropped the ball over a long period of time, I think many of US have as well. The last time I was at M.J. Armstrong's, I spoke with several people who were vehemently complaining about Frank. When I asked them if they had written Fr. McShane or anyone on the BOT, all of them said they had NOT.
In reply to: Frank's Brain 's message, "BLT. The professional, rational and educated way of doing things has not worked for 2 decades! Over the year's rational, sane, concise, beautifully drafted letters have been penned to the Board and to Fr. O'Hare. The approach we all favor has not worked for 20 years. It is my opinion that a more gutteral, less professional and shock value approach is needed. You make perfect sense but that approach has not worked for 20 years! . We need to come up with a different strategy. FRANK MUST GO tee shirts? We need toget the ear of one BOT member to lobby this cause, one who is not spineless and who truly cares about Fordham and not lining his or her own resume." on Sun April 17, 2005 18:59:50


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  • FB, it might be useful for students to organize, have rallies, wear t-shirts calling for change etc., and in fact some students have come on this board looking for advice on how to get their message out. But if alums like most of us did that sort of thing, it would reduce whatever credibility we have. JCC is right. We have a new administration that is feeling its way. Frank is at retirement age right now. If enough alums contacted Fr. McShane and the Trustees directly, we might have more success than you'd imagine. (NT) -- BLT, Sun April 17, 2005 21:07:15
  • Remember this however. As pointed out by several other posters here. This AD went on a public radio show and blasted the infrastructure of his own organization., The now famous "enemies within" comments, et al. So, maybe I come off crude and unprofessional calling people bums and spineless, However, the AD went on a public radio station and made those comments, so where was/is the BOT when those comments were being made? (NT) -- FB, Sun April 17, 2005 23:33:25
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