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Date Posted: 15:12:04 06/23/04 Wed
Author: JC86RG500
Subject: WHAT IS THE BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK! Questions from a New-bie TL Owner!

I just picked up a BLACK 1998 TL1000S with 13000 miles for a great price. It was adult owned and completely stock except for the YOSH RS3 slip ons. The following questions are for items that I intend purchase on a �BUDGET�. Any suggestions/tips would be highly appreciated.

FOR THE MONEY!

CLUTCH? What is the best clutch to use on 98 TL1000S for the money? Bernett or EBC? I went for a test ride before I purchased the bike and knew it needed a new clutch. While riding the bike, I had to let out the clutch way out before it catches. This helped me negotiate a better price on the TiLLeR.

CHAIN & SPROCKET SETUP! Should I convert from stock 530 to 520? What sprocket combination should I use. I heard that some people use 17-40 or 41 combo. My type of riding is mostly Twisty/Kneesdown roads, very very little stunt riding and some highway riding. Can anyone suggest what combo I should use.

�NOT� for LOOKS, �JUST� for HORSEPOWER! (Don�t care for the SOUND!) What COMBO (PCII, EXHAUST, AIR FILTER) produces the BEST Horsepower? POWER COMMANDER PC II ! I am intending to put the PC II because I read that it can be adjusted and tweeked more over the YOSH EMS. I rode the TILLER last weekend and understand the STUMBLING complaints at 3 and 4 thousand RPMs. AIR FILTER? What is the best Performing air filter out there for producing horsepower
BMC or K&N? EXHAUST? I read a lot of good things about the YOSH FULL SYSTEM. Does any one else have any suggestions as to what works well?

BLOCK OFF VALVES? Should I or should I not put them on? What is the purpose for this product (INTUATIVE) ? Is it to reduce the back firing on the TILLER at low RPMs?

BRAKES! After riding the bike for about two hundred miles this past weekend on some of the wildest twisty roads, I found that the bike�s brakes felt a little numb at times, not feeling any feed back. I have read a few things about converting to the six pisty 01 GSXR 1000 brakes. Do I need the master cylinder for these brakes as well or can I use the same master cylinder? I can find them used at a near by shop.

SUSPENSION SETTINGS: Can anyone suggest Frt and Rear street/track setup for the TILLER!. I heard a lot about the rotory suspension but don�t have the funding to buy the Lindermann setup or something like that at the time being.

TIRES: When I purchased the bike, the bike was running a mismatch set with a brand NEW Bridgestone front BT 012 and a NEW Mez ME4 rear. I intend to possibly match the set. What should I buy, a Matching BRIDGESTONE rear or Matching Mez ME4 front? I like tires that grip hard. What will work better BRIDGE or MEZ. Any input on this? I have ridden mostly on Mich Pilot Sports and Dunlop 207 & 208. But only have funding for front or rear tire.

OILS! Syth or Reg? 10/40 or 20/50? What weight should I go with. Upon purchasing the bike the owner told me that he changed the oil at 2500 to 3000 miles. He also added that all of the time he used a 10/40 weight but did not stick with a specfic brand just whatever was on sale.

MAINTENANCE: VALVES? Should I be planning to check the valves soon. I have saw web posting with copies from the SUZUKI Service Manuals. It states that valve adjustments should be checked @ 15000 miles. Does anyone know were I can find a USED (remember on a budget here) SUZUKI Service Manual and Supp�s?

Alittle about me!
I have been riding for the last 14 years and ridden about every sport bike out there from ZX7s, 900RRs, DUCKs, R1s RC51s etc. BUT only owned SUZUKIs. All my bikes were GSXR750s: two �86, �91, �94 bought new and �98. I currently own �86 GSXR750 and a RARE �86 RG500 Gamma two stroke. And NOW a 98 TL1000S. I have always wanted a TL since �97 but my loan officer said other wise=).

I apologize for being long winded but I am Thankful for your time and anticipated responses!

�SEEYA� on the road!
JC86RG500

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You could get a grammar book and a riding lesson, for starters. (NT) -- ~ Prozac ~, 16:33:47 06/23/04 Wed
My 2 cents-First-Prozac is really a friendly guy,it's just that he lives in a place with lots of illegal aliens so it affects him. Keep the stock set up for sprockets and chain and air filter. Get a PCII map done after you get a full exhaust-Yosh makes a nice one and it's not too loud to be obnoxious. I like the Metzelers best. Mobile 1 cycle oil,chuck the steering damper and throw on a Scotts when you get the dough. Now say this three times-Prozac is my friend. (NT) -- Gary B.-Mass, 17:30:53 06/23/04 Wed
Re: WHAT IS THE BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK! Questions from a New-bie TL Owner! -- PROZACisANA**hole, 23:02:40 06/23/04 Wed
- Re: WHAT IS THE BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK! Questions from a New-bie TL Owner! -- JC86RG500, 23:04:57 06/23/04 Wed
Inbred replies by the cry baby TL riders, its like gradeschool in here (NT) -- TLRoach, 23:41:23 06/23/04 Wed
- OMG! Just looking for advice ! No one can give me a simple ANSWER/s in here! -- JC86RG500, 01:30:55 06/24/04 Thu
  - 1: stick with stock clutch just get barnett springs. rest inside -- TLRoach, 03:38:33 06/24/04 Thu
Go to TLPlanet.com.......they have a Sense of "Humour" over there,but will help you as a bonus.. (NT) -- Planet Pressgang, 06:57:54 06/24/04 Thu
Concerning the clutch, get the OEM plates, but use Barnet Springs. Personally I hate the PCII, I'd rather map it with a YOSH box or a Factory Pro TEKA. As others said, remove the PairValve and install Block-off plates. I'd stick with a 530 setup, but go up 2 teeth in the rear. Going to a smaller front sprocket tends to eat the swingarm buffer. If you change to 6-pots, you need the master also. Yosh, M4, Akropovic, all good Full systems. (NT) -- Gary Foreman - www.tl1000.com, 09:23:35 06/24/04 Thu
email be at gforeman@crosslink.net about the manual. (NT) -- Gary Foreman - www.tl1000.com, 09:24:58 06/24/04 Thu
Not an easy crowd here. Go to tlplanet.com and do a search and all of your questions will be answered. (NT) -- russ>tx, 16:47:53 06/24/04 Thu
- Re: ThX for the Mature Responses. This is a reliable site! (NT) -- JC86RG500, 00:19:12 06/25/04 Fri
100 question's??..It's a Tillis,a Tiller is a beached whale : ) ... yes i have a 98 S ..Clutch,what they said,sound's like the cable or activator needs adjustment / the 520 chain mod is for pansies,no real gain,as lame as the Yellow/blue and white color thing (gay) 530 is fine/ Airfilters will show NO flow improvement on the TLS with stock intake tubes and Airbox,if you want budget,aftermarket can's with +5+5+0 with a EMS,a T.R.E if the stumbles are something you can't ride around..full system will give 116RW on a 98S or +7 over can's only (NT) -- Mr Pipes , 07:15:46 06/25/04 Fri
- If it's backfiring on overun do the P.A.I.R mod and check for exhaust leak's?Brakes..any 90mm bolt centre 6 piston claiper will fit the TLS,use the matching 5/8 M/C until you can afford a Brembo 19x18..a pad upgrade in the stock 4 piston calipers will give much better feedback and performance/ The suspension suck's in stock form ,at a minimum try and set the sag right /Tyres,D208GP's or M1's/ RG500's are jamjar's haha!! just another bike to ride around on a real 2 stroke.. ie Kawasaki H2750 (NT) -- Mr Pipes indeed, 07:18:19 06/25/04 Fri
- You know darn well the Blue/White is faster. It has been proven time and time again in government studies, not to mention that 4 out of 5 doctors reccomend the blue/white. Of course those who ride a blue/white TLR and experience an erection for more than 6 hours should consult their doctor. Blue and White TLR's are void where prohibited by law. (NT) -- Gary Foreman, 22:58:10 06/26/04 Sat
  - LMAO Downunder ; ) ........ Glad you still have your sense of humor,even if you did go to the Dark side .. Only one Colour for a TL and its inside -- Mr UnoWho, 01:49:02 06/27/04 Sun
  - The black/white/silver is the fastest by far - pictures inside! -- dgrace (NorCal), 16:39:27 06/27/04 Sun
Mr UnoWho you are so right. The mighty Green S is looked down upon by the snobby R owners :). I certainly don't fear em with my modded 97. Long live Green? Where is that Blackbird I blew off last year?- think I'll go ridin. (NT) -- Gary B.-Mass, 12:04:41 06/27/04 Sun