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Relo from StL
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Date Posted: 09:21:40 03/14/01 Wed
In reply to:
GC
's message, "Re: You are free to reject the truth ..." on 06:34:33 03/14/01 Wed
is just another word for rebellion against God.
Yes, you have free will -- otherwise, you could not show love. Love is voluntary, and that requires there be another choice available to you. God wants us to love Him, but He can't force us to, by definition of love.
>That's why there's Free will.....and my interpretation
>teaches self determinism. If that makes me the loser
>in your eyes Relo, so be it. I trust the guidance of
>an inner good in mankind.
>
>Children are not self centered by nature.....at least
>not in my direction, nieces, nephews, my sons &
>grandchild. They've been outgoing & more perceptive
>of their surroundings than any adult. When a parent
>cares about others, they are teaching by example.....
Precisely my point. Your children were NOT born that way. You TAUGHT them to be as they are, and if I can believe what you say, it would appear you did a fine job of it!
If you don't think children are naturally self-centered, recall what a baby is like in the first few weeks of its life. What are the primary motivations it sees? Is it not getting fed, getting its diaper changed, and being made comfortable? Self-centered motives, all.
> most early stages of learning for the
>child is by example, the parent is concious of their
>actions for the sake of a child. That includes
>watching what they say in a child's presence, &
>monitoring the type of programs they are exposed to
>etc.
>
>I'll agree there is potential for evil, but I won't
>believe children are evil. They are born innocent &
>unless corrupted shall remain that way.
>
>>>I Know I had no evil in myself as a child. This Is
>>>one Truth I reject...
>>
>>but that doesn't change it. It is still the truth.
>>If you deny something that is true, you are the loser.
>>
>>You had the sin nature in you from the moment of
>>birth, as did I and everyone else. That is why man is
>>basically evil.
>>
>>>..It's like an excuse for bad decisions.
>>
>>There is no excuse for bad decisions. God calls it
>>sin.
>>
>>>I don't teach it, can't abide by
>>>it.....Whatever a child becomes is taught by
>example.
>>>Well thought out action works.....
>>
>>Teaching by example is the way to do it. A young
>>child cannot understand the concept of the sin nature,
>>but he can understand that some things are right and
>>other things are not right. A child is naturally self
>>centered. The first thing a parent can teach is that
>>a child should care about others around him/her, not
>>just themselves.
>>
>>When the child is old enough to question why the
>>parent says "no" to so many things, he/she can be
>>introduced to God as the Creator and the loving father
>>who watches over us all. He/she can then gain an
>>understanding about their sin nature.
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