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Date Posted: 01:45:00 03/15/01 Thu
In reply to:
Relo from StL
's message, "Self-determination ..." on 09:21:40 03/14/01 Wed
>is just another word for rebellion against God.
>
>Yes, you have free will -- otherwise, you could not
>show love. Love is voluntary, and that requires there
>be another choice available to you. God wants us to
>love Him, but He can't force us to, by definition of
>love.
I Just looked up Self determinism & it appears to be sorta self centered "philosophic doctrine that every present state or condition of the self is a result of previous states or conditions of the self".....the meaning I was considering is more Self determination "freedom to live as one chooses, or to act or decide without consulting others"
It's not a rebellion against 'God' It's more a trusting for the inner comforter as a guide. For some love comes naturally.....or maybe I was taught as a child.
>>That's why there's Free will.....and my interpretation
>>teaches self determinism. If that makes me the loser
>>in your eyes Relo, so be it. I trust the guidance of
>>an inner good in mankind.
>>
>>Children are not self centered by nature.....at least
>>not in my direction, nieces, nephews, my sons &
>>grandchild. They've been outgoing & more perceptive
>>of their surroundings than any adult. When a parent
>>cares about others, they are teaching by example.....
>
>Precisely my point. Your children were NOT born that
>way. You TAUGHT them to be as they are, and if I can
>believe what you say, it would appear you did a fine
>job of it!
Thank you.
>If you don't think children are naturally
>self-centered, recall what a baby is like in the first
>few weeks of its life. What are the primary
>motivations it sees? Is it not getting fed, getting
>its diaper changed, and being made comfortable?
>Self-centered motives, all.
Maybe I was thinking of the derogatory implication of self-centered.....Both children were content and happy. A baby can be called self centered because they are learning so much in early part of life. First few weeks are around the clock care.....It seems the attention they recieved early on came back later on.
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