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Author: KIRKLAND (watch this girl!!) [Edit]
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Date Posted: Tuesday, October 13, 06:49:00am
there are several reasons i am impressed with joanna and feel good about a secure placement at world...joanna will be the girl that nobody saw coming...there are several factors that i have considered to rationalize my claim and they are a follows...
* height/body - 6 footer...a clear standout! ...joanna has taken off a good bit of weight and has also TONED well...her stomach is FLAT, legs are toned and her breasts are at attention (no implants unlike gabby)...her weight is proportionate to her height and this captures a signature appeal for a queen...
* all natural - joanna is michelle's LEAST airbrushed queen and most natural...what you see is what you get...that airbrushing has literally killed ada aimee de la cruz, tinnyse, deandrea and anya - this bevy of lovlies all came out at world with amazing perfectly touched photos and presented as 'watered down' versions in real time - again joanna never seems to be wearing hardly any make up...compare for yourself...consistancy is very important and the way a queen 'rolls out' is important if she is to grow on the judges and adoring public alike
* angelic youth - joanna is visibly young...she hasnt taken on that 'hardness' as yet...for God's sake she is still growing (smile)...she has a sweet adorable appeal and her beauty is more 'ahhh' than 'woah'...again, this is world and not universe therein lies a big difference - a subdued beauty is prefered at world for sure
ethnic appeal...
unrehearsed - if you notice joanna doesnt come across robotic...her expressions and tone is spontaneous and unscripted very NOT typical of bahamian queens...
with a killer wardrobe and proper styling i expect miss brown to do the bahamas pround...again, the right girl was crowned!
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- I'm not going to lie in 2007 I wanted Camille Kenny to win but thought Anya Watkins is more Miss World material and should win. I was very please with her performance at Miss World. In 2008 I saw some potential beauties such as Tinnyse, Chrystal, Azaria, Sharranna, and Tiara. I expected Sharranna to win or Chrystal Bethel based upon look and speaking skills.... but unfortunately Tinnyse Johnson won. Tinnyse's problem at Miss world was her makeup, PERSONALITY and speaking skills. Tinnyse is nothing close to a Miss World even though shes beautiful with LBS of makeup or airbrushing which TAKES AWAY from the girls REAL BEAUTY. In 2009 I didnt have any clear winners But Joanna, Llatera, Kendra, Gabrielle,Devera and Dashonique was my favorites.I fell in love with Joana's personality and speaking skills but honestly didnt see her as Miss Bahamas World. Im happy she won but STILL NERVOUS ABOUT HER BODY!!! (NT) -- Truth, Tuesday, October 13, 05:51:20pm
- Interesting synopsis......I am warming up to Joanna....I do believe that she has shown that she is serious about the crown.....I will watch her some more....and I do think she has a good chance to do well....she just needs to know how to "market" herself when she arrives!!!! (NT) -- We have to be twenty steps says: "I think Joanna can be considered a Dark Horse", Tuesday, October 13, 10:45:43pm
YES I agree with the marketing yourself part. Tinnyse should have marjeted herself better. Most of the pictures I saw she was with MIss Cayman Islands. When she first arrived in Johannesburg she was photographed with Miss USA & Venezuela and I thought she was off to a good start but after that she was mostly photographed with Miss Cayman Islands. A Queens to get out there and nix and mingle with all the girls and be photographed with them. Especialy with the bigger pageant Country Power House girls so that People will take notice of her. (NT) -- Sean K, Wednesday, October 14, 06:59:04am
- For non-pageant countries like The Bahamas...We needs to send girls with PERSONALITY...Anya did it in 2007 but she couldve network even more and Tinnyse didnt do it. I WOULD NOT EVEN TALK ABOUT TIARA COOPER...... HOW CAN WE HONESTLY SEND GIRLS INTERNATIONALY WITH OUT HAVING LEADERSHIP....Tiara was beautiful YES but lack any personality! (NT) -- Truth, Wednesday, October 14, 08:53:14am
Trinere Lynes had loads of Personality and mingled with everybody but sadly she did not place at MU 2007. (NT) -- Groupher, Wednesday, October 14, 11:27:14am
Anya Watkins was the best. She trully marketed herself. (NT) -- Courtnee, Wednesday, October 14, 12:21:23pm
- Sweety thats the ONLY THING nice a person could say about Trinere Lynes. She will forever be the WORSTE MISS BAHAMAS UNIVERSE EVER!!!!!!!! Her or Nadia Johnson. Dont get me started on Trinere Lyness though.... Shes not pretty, shes VERY VERY short and she sounds dumb! And for Courtney.... YES ANYA IS SURELY THE BEST MISS BAHAMAS WORLD in YEARS....Her pageantry days are finish though and I wish her THE BEST OF LUCK IN HER ENDERVOUS.... We needs to scout some queens from Highschool in the family islands and Freport and SOME TRUE BEAUTIES FROM SCHOOLS OUT OF THE EAST... KINGSWAY TO SAC TO STANDREWS to ST ANNES to even Faith Temple. BEAUTY along with Brains for most! (NT) -- Truth, Wednesday, October 14, 01:55:22pm
Why are you guys always brining the short issue up, Ask God why he did not make everybody in the world tall?. (NT) -- Courtnee, Wednesday, October 14, 02:05:06pm
- Courtnee, give it a rest honey! Yes, God made people short, but that doesn't mean that they have to be beauty queens. It's just like a six foot tall man questioning why he can't be a jockey! God made him 6 feet tall, but that don't mean he could be a jockey. In today's world, beauty queens are generally tall... the shortest they come is 5' 7". If we want to get serious about pageants, it don't make no sense we send a short girl, because all she will be doing is going on vacation. That's just the reality, like it or not. So please, give it a rest. A short girl could go do something else! (NT) -- Tired of this silly argument!, Wednesday, October 14, 04:22:10pm
- NO NO YOU NEEDS TO BREAK IT DOWN for them....5'5 or less IN MISS UNIVERSE??????????? GET REAL PEOPLE!!!! (NT) -- Truth, Wednesday, October 14, 05:44:55pm
YES BUT BEAUTY is BEAUTY and some SHort Women are Queens more Queenly than some tall Women. (NT) -- Courtnee, Wednesday, October 14, 07:20:27pm
ARE YOU SAYING SHORT WOMEN ARE UGLY AND NOT QUEENS. (NT) -- Courtnee, Wednesday, October 14, 07:21:32pm
- No I'm saying Height is a MUST in Miss Universe. Height is a PLUS in Miss World..... Just look at Miss Universe stats under the current management. My question for you is.... Are all full figured women are Miss Universe Material?? NO.... the same thing with a 5'4 dumb girl who wants to get in the Late Micheal Jackson's head. (NT) -- Truth, Wednesday, October 14, 08:54:23pm
It's not a Plus some taller girls do better but some short girls have done well also. One of the best Miss World winners was Giselle Laronde of Trinidad & Tabago in 1986 who beat out the USA rep Halle Berry another shorter girl. (NT) -- Courtnee, Thursday, October 15, 08:34:55am
Giselle was only 5" 5". (NT) -- Courtnee, Thursday, October 15, 08:37:03am
- Ummmm, Halle Berry is 5' 7" (NT) -- Pageant fan, Thursday, October 15, 11:23:51am
Well that relively short the same hieght as Miss USA one of the shortest contestants in Miss Universe this year. (NT) -- Courtnee, Thursday, October 15, 12:16:25pm
Giselle still won right and she was only 5"5". (NT) -- Courtnee, Thursday, October 15, 12:17:12pm
- Yeah... TWENTY-THREE YEARS AGO! (NT) -- Give it a rest!, Thursday, October 15, 02:28:26pm
- Courtnee Didnt you disagree with what I said about Trinere Lyne's Height when she was in MISS UNIVERSE and NOT MISS WORLD...UNDERSTAND What Im trying to say to you. From 1996 just look at the STATS of former Miss Universe. The reason i said 1996 is because thats when TRUMP was in charge of Miss Universe. OK What ME and YOU might that are Miss Universe might be TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT DONALD TRUMP's ORGANIZATION HAVE.... What me and you think DONT COUNT... Trump Management COUNTS!.....Miss Universe 1996-2009 are MOSTLY 5'7+ and won when they were Less than 21 years. OKKKKK WHAT MISS UNIVERSE(DONALD TRUMP)CRITERIA of a beauty IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT than MISS WORLD. (NT) -- Truth, Thursday, October 15, 03:18:24pm
- **OK What ME and YOU might THINK a TYPICAL Miss Universe should be and Donald Trump disagree (NT) -- Truth, Thursday, October 15, 03:20:24pm
- WE MUST GET FACTS AND PUT IT IN OUR HEADS.... In Pageantry Height is a mUST Nowadays..... ITS MADATORY for MISS UNIVERSE..... NOW MISS WORLD its a HUGE PLUS and Yes girls do get disfranchised based upon their HEIGHT HOWEVERRRRRRRRRR THE CHANCES of a Short Girl to win or place high is VERY VERY SLIM BUT POSSIBLE.... Gabrielle Walcott in 2008 BROUGHT ALL THE ATTRIBUTES of a GREAT MISS WORLD.... She participated and was very successful in ALMOST EVERY FAST TRACK EVENT. In case YOU DIDNT KNOW TINNYSE Johnson was RANKED higher than Gabrielle in one of the predictions BUT When the girls went S.A Gabrielle LIGHTed up the room with her PERSONALITY, BODY, BEAUTY, BRAINS, FASHION, and EAGERNESS for EVERY FAST TRACK EVENT. (NT) -- Truth- for a 5'6 girl Miss Universe is DEF. OUT OF THE PICTURE However Miss World is a MAYBE..... In 2008 Chrystal Bethel shouldve been Miss bahamas World, Thursday, October 15, 03:26:22pm
There is a first time for everything and a short girl could win Miss Universe and maybe even next year who knows. (NT) -- Courtnee, Thursday, October 15, 03:50:11pm
- Well u go ahead having that mind set whats next a fat gurl is going to win Miss Universe? (NT) -- Truth, Thursday, October 15, 04:37:36pm
- You know Courtnee...what you're not understanding about pageantry is this: 1. There is such a thing called "Sash Factor"...don't let anyone tell that it's a myth...that is the TRUTH....a good example would be the NEW MISS UNIVERSE THAT WE HAVE NOW....If her Sash said "Moldova" she wouldn't have won; (NT) -- We have to be 20 steps ahead says: "Hope this helps", Thursday, October 15, 06:18:41pm
- 2. Pageants are a BUSINESS...the reason why more white/latin girls win is because of the "sad" reality that they are "more" "mareketable" internationally and they cater to the countries in the developed world where "BEAUTY and FASHION" are "HUGE INDUSTRIES"....if you know anything about geography you would know that the richest economies in the world are the European/North American Countries, that is why when a woman of colour wins the crown it is such a big "TRIUMPH" and she is considered "EXQUISITELY BEAUTIFUL" by International Standards...not...Western standards...there is a difference. 3. Pageantry borrows alot from fashion and the world of HIGH FASHION...have you ever seen a 5ft 4 - 5ft 5 runway model???? Not in these recent times....the height requirements for a female runway model is minimum 5ft 9 to 5ft 11/6ft 0" without heels. (NT) -- We have to be 20 steps ahead says: "Hope this helps", Thursday, October 15, 06:20:21pm
- I say all of this to say: 1. The Bahamas is not a sash factor country so in order to get the world's attention our queen must meet the ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS....2. We must not just send a light skinned girl or a dark skinned girl...we must send a girl that THE WORLD CAN ADMIRE AS BEAUTY NO MATTER HER SKIN COLOUR....In my opinion Her facial Features and Beauty as well as a well proportioned, toned healthy body should be her assets to succeed..3. We need the full package, brains, personality, intelligence, wit and sheer elegance. Now, once we've built a name for ourself internationally and our reputation is good then sending a short girl once in a while if she is AMAZING (A LA ANA RITA CONTREAS OF THE DR OR GABBY WALCOTT of T&T) can be justified. (NT) -- We have to be 20 steps ahead says: "Hope this helps", Thursday, October 15, 06:21:42pm
- Seeing how you are new to pageants, take some time out to educate yourself about the REAL WORLD OF PAGEANTRY. A lot of things may SHOCK YOU as some of it is gross, but you will understand why certain countries and ethnicities win certain pageants or place in them. Hope this post helps...Cheers!!! (NT) -- We have to be 20 steps ahead says: "Hope this helps", Thursday, October 15, 06:22:08pm
- Well said but I wanted to point out that in Miss Universe the sash factor happens frequently annually. Secondly WE MUST DIFFERENTIATE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MISS WORLD and MISS UNIVERSE.... Miss Universe is all about Height, Age, SKINNY body type, PERSONALITY, FIERCE, RUNWAY EXTRAORDINAIRE and Sash Factor. While Miss World is about Beauty, Grace, Humble, Brains, Good Speaking skills, Girl next door appeal and with some other Miss Universe Characteristics. I ALWAYS TRY TO TELL THE NEW PEOPLE that Miss World is basically a Miss America when Miss Universe is basically a Modeling COMPETITION (NT) -- Truth, Thursday, October 15, 08:20:07pm
If it's the Sash factor was does Miss Bahamas even bother taking part in Miss Universe. (NT) -- Courtnee, Thursday, October 15, 10:23:25pm
- Thats why Miss Universe had 82 contestants and Miss World HAVE 106 CURRENT CONTESTANTS. Keep in mind THATS The CONFIRMED queens THUS far and the pageant is in December. OK Just take a good look at all of the past Miss Universe pageants and NOTICE The Host always says the top 15 are chosen from their preliminaries panels AND MISS UNIVERSE PANEL AKA DONALD TRUMP MANAGEMENT. AND NOTICE that every year USA always in the top 10. If shes FAT, IF shes Ugly, If shes a whore, if shes 5'4. SO GIRL GET WITH THE PROGRAM... LOVE IT or HATE IT!.... ALSO JUST LOOK at the top 15 this year all was 5'8+ (MISS USA WAS THE SHORTEST) and THE girls who got knocked off out of the top 15 were all EUROPEAN GIRLS WHERE DONALD TRUMP WANTS TO SET UP BUSINESS IN... (NT) -- Truth, Thursday, October 15, 11:09:55pm
- Good question.....YOU SHOULD ASK GAYNELLE THAT QUESTION....CAUSE CLEARLY SHE HASN'T BEEN CONSISTENT IN SENDING QUEENS THAT HAVE MADE ANY KIND OF IMPACT IN MISS UNIVERSE!!!!....ALSO, PAGEANTS MAKE A LOT OF MONEY...SO WHEN YOU HAVE ORGANIZERS THAT'S ONLY INTO MONEY, THAT'S THE REASON WHY "WE HAVE NOT HAD SUCCESS"....NEXT THING, THE FRANCHISE FEE AND PARTICIPATION FEE FOR A NATIONAL TITLE HOLDER IN MISS UNIVERSE IS A LOT A LOT A LOT OF MONEY....AND DONALD LOVES THAT!...I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS THAT IF THE ORGANZERS ARE NOT PRODUCTIVE IN PRODUCING A "WORTHY" TITLE-HOLDER THAT CAN ACTUALLY BE A CONTENDER TO PLACE AND WIN....THEN THEY SHOULD STOP SENDING MISS BAHAMAS PERIOD AND USE THE MONEY FOR THE GREATER GOOD AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE NATION!!!!.... (NT) -- We have to be 20 steps ahead says: "Good Question...ASK GAYNELLE", Thursday, October 15, 11:54:16pm
- YET WE END UP WITH QUEENS LIKE TRINERE, NADIA RODGERS, HALF-STEPPIN SORT OF PRETTY GIRLS LIKE DENIA, SACHA, KIARA AND GIRLS THAT HAVE GREAT POTENTIAL THAT IS NOT EVEN DEVELOPED PROPERLY LIKE NADIA RODGERS-ALBURY AND SAMANTHA CARTER....THE MOST PREPARED QUEEN THAT GAYNELLE HAS SENT IS RACQUEL HORTON!!!!! AND HER YEAR WAS TOUGH BECAUSE THE AVERAGE HEIGHT INTHE TOP 15 WAS 5FT 10" AND SHE STOOD 5FT 7"....HER YEAR WAS THE YEAR OF THE "GLAMAZONS"....EVEN JAMAICA DID VERY VERY WELL THAT YEAR WITH GORGEOUS CHRISTINE STRAW!!!! (NT) -- We have to be 20 steps ahead says: "Good Question...ASK GAYNELLE", Thursday, October 15, 11:55:39pm
Hello since 1963 the Bahamas has been sending Queens to MU and non have ever made the semi-finals except for Glennis Knowles in 1999 who placed no 12 overall. Back then they only had a Top 10. (NT) -- Smee, Friday, October 16, 08:18:11am
Here how the true results of MBU should have been. 2002 Nadia Rodgers Albury, 2003 Sarah Simpson Beek, 2004 Raquel Horton, 2005 Nadia Cash, 2006 Leandra Pratt, 2007 Sharon Rolle, 2008 Sasha Scott, 2009 Amanda Appleyard. (NT) -- Smee, Friday, October 16, 08:23:27am
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