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Date Posted: 13:02:08 05/28/07 Mon
Author: Deja
Subject: Correction to previous post ( Did the shades FEAR "OR" RESPECT JB


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[> Barrons and the blood -- Mattie, 15:16:40 05/28/07 Mon [1]

I have re read about Mac seeing the blood on his hand. We all know as Mac did that he didnt it get the way he explained. I dont like the Vampire theory. But I can see Barrons feeding the Shades. Barrons powers are like Dageus when he was possessed by the 13. I am waiting on the release of Bloodfever, hoping this to be explained.
Mattie

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[> [> What do you mean by 'Barron's powers are like Dageus' when he was possessed by the 13? This is very interesting. I'd like to hear more. -- claudia_celestial_girl Poof, Ms Lane?, 17:30:17 05/28/07 Mon [1]

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[> [> [> Barrons and Dageus -- Mattie, 20:57:22 05/28/07 Mon [1]

Remember back in Dark Highlander Dageus could move across the room quickly (so can Barrons). And with Barrons being able to leap from tall buildings, etc. it reminded me of Dageus when he had the power of the 13. Do you have any thoughts, old or new? I am new here and havent read much of the past post.
Mattie

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[> [> [> [> Ohhh! yes. I didn't process that information before. The fae can 'sift place' and so they can seemingly move in the blink of an eye. We've only seen Circenn, Adam, and JB do that (maybe 'Rowena'). When Dageus did it, I did not process that he is a Druid and shouldn't be able to do that. Verra interesting! This could be a missing bit of information that helps explain JB. I'm a firm believer that JB is a Druid, but I've not been convinced that he is Fae. This bit could explain that his Druid powers are very strong. That maybe he IS one of the 'five' that Queen Abby said she needed in five years time at the close of Spell. !!!!! -- claudia_celestial_girl Poof, Ms. Lane?, 21:34:34 05/28/07 Mon [1]

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[> V'Lane and the silver bracelet -- Mattie, 16:10:49 05/28/07 Mon [1]

Thinking about Barrons and thought of the time V'Lane offered Mac the bracelet for protection. Could this be the same kind of bracelet that Barrons wears? Is this what protects Barrons from the Shades? Barrons knows V'Lane.
Mattie

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[> [> I may be wrong, but I have to think that the bracelet - the so-called 'Cuff of Cruce' is not the same kind as Barron's at all. In fact, whereas Barron's seems like merely jewelry, it seems to me that V'Lane's bracelet may be cursed. In the glossary, it was 'Cruce' who cursed the mirrors so that no Fae dares enter them any more. I'm not sure I would wear a bracelet that came from such a guy. -- claudia_celestial_girl Poof, Ms. Lane?, 17:39:56 05/28/07 Mon [1]

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[> [> [> OKAY Claudia.....Where's the pole dancer, the one with the red bathing suit ? OR how 'bout the dark hair, leather wearing, whip holding babe ? -- Jo , 21:24:39 05/28/07 Mon [1]

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[> [> [> [> Ha! You are so funny! If I could find either of those, I VERY likely would post them up, but then this would quickly move to not such a family friendly site. Wait! with all the naked men, with pants coming off, and other things I've seen here, maybe it's already moved into that 'zone'! -- claudia_celestial_girl Poof, Ms. Lane?, 21:50:40 05/28/07 Mon [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> Family friendly? Damn I kenw I was on the wrong page. LOL -- JOJOPhoto Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket, 08:39:05 05/29/07 Tue [1]

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[> [> [> Jewelry -- JT, 17:46:09 06/05/07 Tue [1]

I think except for Vlane, the cuffs show the clan or rank (Adam) in your clan. The cuffs might have been for display but I think they had a purpose in telling others who you were. Sounds good anyway....

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[> [> [> jewelry for clan -- JT, 14:13:41 06/07/07 Thu [1]

Could it be that the cuffs, etc. could show what clan & what rank within your clan you were? I know on the 4 house princes, the torque showed a prince (ie gold torque Adam). It makes sense to me that the cuffs could declare clan & rank. Didn't it mention in fever that JB had a black & silver torque? Could that show a "lesser" prince or show rank higher than regular people but not a Prince? I don't know if I am making sense, this is a thought forming in my mind and it is not complete yet.

Didn't Gueen A turn Darroc into a mere mortal? I haven't gone back and read yet to see if I am right. Maybe somebody knows and can save me the trouble of looking. If she did turn him into a mortal, how did he get the powers back? If he did gain powers back, why couldn't Adam (even with a soul)?

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[> [> [> [> I really like your theories, JT! Keep posting. I agree with you that the jewelry may indicate rank. Gold for a prince, silver & black ??? Love that idea. Yes - Queen Abby turned DArroc into a mere mortal, and at the end of DF, Mac and JB both seem to think that the Lord Master was 'not even Fae' - so there I think you have your answer. He acts like he is Fae, he 'talks the talk,' but he is not Fae. The problem is that he knows all the Fae secrets, and has access to their magical artifacts. He probably uses the mirrors in the house on LaRuhe street to go back and forth between realms, the only person Fae or not, to dare such a trick. I'm sure we'll learn lots more about him in the next book! -- claudia_celestial_girl Poof, Ms Lane?, 20:46:11 06/07/07 Thu [1]

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[> [> I agree w/ you Claudia, I'm starting to not like V'lane at all, too much deceit. I hope Mac continues to stay wary of V'lane. At least JB is blunt even w/ his secrets. As to Deja's question; JB is confident w/ his own powers against the Shades not to fear them. -- Maria Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket, 00:50:33 05/29/07 Tue [1]

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[> I have to agree with Claudia on this one. BTW Claudia love your dancing Avi! -- Cheryle Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket, 19:57:05 05/28/07 Mon [1]

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[> Darroc mortal -- JT, 14:38:26 06/11/07 Mon [1]

Claudia, are you saying that though Darroc is mortal, he still has the knowledge of the fae powers and the fae memories? Seems Queen A is too smart to allow him the fae memories. I had assumed he was just a mere mortal, though retained the good looks of the fae, but had no memory of the fae or their power; if he did that really could explain a lot that is going on.

I really enjoy your postings!! Don't stop. Thanks for the comment on the clan ranking jewelry, it's to have someone agree with you! I do think that makes alot of sense.

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[> [> Yes! I believe that, though Darroc is no longer Fae, that he remembers being Fae. I thought the purpose (the Queen was letting Adam dictate the punishment) was that DArroc feel punished - so he would feel mortality, but know what it was like to be immortal. Since Queen Abby knows everything, and is playing a game of weaving the world, don't you think that she is allowing this so that somehow, the dark book will surface, and she can use it for some reason? She seems to have a reason to want all these powerful Druids and Fae's to be where they are right now. -- claudia_celestial_girl "Want to Drive?" "Just Kidding.", 22:21:22 06/26/07 Tue [1]

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[> Could Barrons be a Vampire? -- Kjo, 00:06:33 06/26/07 Tue [1]

Hi,
I'm new to the board, and I've been reading some of the comments and they are all very interesting. I've re-read Darkfever and although I haven't read the booklet, and I don't know if any of JB's habits have changed. But in Darkfever, JB only saw Mac at night, never in the daylight. Doesn't that strike anyone as odd? He also knows a lot about vampires. Could he be a vampire?

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[> [> Hi Kjo. Nice to meet you, and please post often! It was Cheryle who first pointed out to me, on this very board, that JB only appears at night. Since then we've gone back and forth on the matter. I can't speak for Cheryle, but I personally don't believe that JB is a vampire. Cursed in some other way, yes. I think JB resents Malluce for being only 40 years old, and 'undead.' Whereas JB, I think, is ancient for a different reason. Of course, there is that scene between JB abd Malluce, where Mac tells us kn DF that she would learn that 'nothing was as it appeared that night,' so I have the feeling that KMM has a surprise in store for us. And I know from experience, that my ramblings are wrong at least 50% of the time. ;-) -- claudia_celestial_girl "Want to Drive?" "Just Kidding.", 22:31:08 06/26/07 Tue [1]

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[> [> [> What the heck is JB? -- Kjo, 23:16:10 06/27/07 Wed [1]

Hi Claudia,

Nice to meet you too. I missed the message from Cheryle that talked about the vampire theory. It just seems that JB has a lot of knowledge about vampires, and with the human blood on his hand, and only being seen at night, I thought it was a possibility. I can't see him being fae, possibly a druid, but he does possess powers that are difficult to explain for a druid. I'm thinking you may be right that KMM may have a surprise for us when it comes to JB. Maybe a whole new kind of "being". She's just so darn creative!

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[> [> [> [> If he is a vampire, then that scene between him and Malluce is just hysterically funny. Even now, one of my favorite lines in the book is when JB sarcastically says 'undead fuck' about Malluce. -- claudia_celestial_girl "Want to Drive?" "Just Kidding.", 23:57:13 06/27/07 Wed [1]

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